soonest:
Thanks for the reference. I know for sure Itsekiri is of Yoruba ancestry. Their language leads credence to that;

but their ruling family is another kettle of fish. Ogie is a bini word. Oba of Benin has always played roles in itsekiri royal house. History has it that one of Bini princes became the first Olu. I wouldn't mind more education if you have more information as regards this

gregyboy:



You don confuse, confusionist chaii


How can d father still be d mother

nisai:
Ah! Mi riii. Bi m se ma ri ipe re ki m ma yinnu? We ma mu iyi ara re oo.

Mo wa dada. Inu mi dun fo wo yi wa nibe nitorifo awon alaraka yen uro won po.

TAO11:
To! e ne-ejo niyen oo.

Olorun a pon iwo ne le.

Ibere ri mi fe biro ri fo: Nje ole tunmo oro we ri ede Ijebu:? “Oyo is the King”.

nisai:
Oyo ri oba.

Truthshots2:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM391s2FQps


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snVkEBVeUy8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zK2bsZhPIo

TAO11:
O ka re na ye! M je ri e.


Mma ju awon linki okan ri ibe we neyin, ko le mo idi ri mi shey biro ibere yen.

sangresan:


You don't know anything...

The last Ijaw vs Itsekiri didn't take place during Abacha's regime. So, how could a dead Abacha intervened in the said conflict?

A lot of the boys who fought for the Itsekiris were recruited from riverine parts of Ondo State.

nisai:
Oda.

gregyboy:



Omo only you dey confuse yourself hoping to confuse the people and paint the oba as a bad person


I dont know your agenda but one thing i know youre on a new brand of weed and you need to get use to it before you start making sense


First of all the oba stays neutral in edo politics and support anybody because anyone he support, wont change him from being the oba of benin

Ayiri is fighting for the edict to stand and not fighting for you think he ia fighting for so defiantly the oba if he is to give his support he would definitely give ayiri is support

ogbonti:





you are the one high on trash and you are a kid

Oba Erediauwa - the father of this current Oba played politics in 1991 when he indirectly told his chiefs to tell Benin people to vote for Chief John Odigie - Oyegun of SDP against Mr. Lucky Igbinedion of NRC - I was in Benin and I voted in that election (Option A-4 open ballot system, aka see me I see you) and so many bs happened then including the murder of Oredo LG Chairman Mr. George Osa Idah. Even the Oba had to wear red and go to court to defend himself against the allegations that Ogbinedion put forward that the Oba cost his son the election- That was an open secret in Benin then that the Oba campaigned secretly against Igbinedion through his Chiefs.


In 1999, that same Oba Erediauwa was backing Mr Lucky Imasuen of APP against Lucky Igbinedion of PDP and that made Navy Captain Anthony Ibe Onyearugbulem - the then Edo State Sole administrator to confront the Oba and told him to behave himself or else - most of us know how that ended, when he removed the Oba as Chairman of Edo State Traditional Council because he said the Oba was partisan.


Then his son Oba Ewuare was pulling that same stunt for Ize Iyamu - in 2019

Do you know what it means for the Oba to say his family didn’t like Obaseki because the role his great grand father played in the 1897 Benin Massacre and that Dangote was begging him to accept Obaseki’s candidacy in 2016 and that Phillip Shaibu is no longer his son bla bla bla abd that Oshomole is a good man and he has been helping him since he was a Prince bla bla bla

if you can not read in between the lines and his body language and know he was campaigning against Obaseki and expected him to say EDO PEOPLE VOTE FOR IZE IYAMU - then you are a BIG g Oa t

Truthshots2:


Actually, current "yoruba" is purely artificial, there is no similar culture.
The true yoruba are the people of oyo Kingdom.

soonest:
Methinks, Itsekiris are more yoruba than binis but their ruling house is of bini ancestry.

Gbajure:


Which Oyo kingdom you keep repeating sef? Oyo kingdom is relatively a very young kingdom compare to Ife and Ogiso dynasties. It was founded by Oranmiyan after he left Ibini. And at its height it included Egbas Ibadans etc

Gbajure:


But the Bini ruling house is of Ife ancestry.

Truthshots2:
[s]1) actually oyo Kingdom is way older than Ife village.
2) oranmiyan is a fictional character like superman or Spiderman.
3) ogiso is a fairytale like father Christmas.
4) all you think you know about history are fables for children.[/s]

Truthshots2:
[s]No, Ife is a small village which the British started developing as from 1912 all you hear about Ife are fairytales[/s].

Truthshots2:

No, Ife is a small village which the British started developing as from 1912 all you hear about Ife are fairytales.

Daum:


You are right about the things you said about Oba Erediauwa. But Oba Ewuare was right, he did not know Obaseki and that was the truth.

Obaseki has not handled some personal issues which the Palace has given to him well because of certain factors. The Oba is not really happy about it. The Oba has his interests also.


Nevertheless people voted Obaseki to spite Oshiomole badly. The palace understood this that's why they couldn't come out for Ize iyamu. The Palace had to thread carefully and people knew the Oba had ties with Captain, but you see one thing, everyone ignored the palace politics and acted like it did not exist.

They separated the Oba from it and dealt with Cap. OSA and Oshiomole.

KingOKON:
Very ignorant people fill up this thread, in any society the ruling class are totally different from their subjects.
Because your royalties have affinities with another ethnic stock doesn't mean you lots are same stock.
Prince Philip that just died isn't of the same stock of the English people, he is Greek in origin but of royalty.
The kings and Queens of Europe are almost of the same bloodline than the people they rule over.
If the royal households of Itsekiri have established bonds with the Benin's from time immemorial or are Benin in origin that doesn't mean the entire Itsekiris are of Benin stock
The ruling house of Onitsha may trace ancestry to Benin or Igala, it doesn't mean they never met people in Onitsha at their arrival in Onitsha
Fact is, we should stop tracing our origin from the origin of the ruling families.

Ofunwa111:









I am amazed you people do not know the person behind the moniker Truthshots2 is mentally unstable? He is the same person who uses the moniker "Nocomment" and "Nobody". He is from Oza Nagogo. He expects everyone in the South and some clans in the East of Nigeria to be of Edo origin. Then he goes about talking set theories and how many books he has written.

Gbajure:


Pls stop derailing the topic and leave discussions to sane and sober minds. Enough of your incoherent unintelligible posts.

Truthshots2:

No, Ife is a small village which the British started developing as from 1912 all you hear about Ife are fairytales.

Truthshots2:
[s]All I said are facts. Facts which you don't like, but facts nontheless. You can try and smear me however you want, it just won't change facts and logics. What exactly is incoherent and uninteligeable in it ? Well I guess truth is uninteligeable to those whose lives revolve around lies.[/s]

ogbonti:



every thing you said is correct

the bold parts - the Oba is under Obaseki constitutionally and if he thinks otherwise- let him run for the office of Governor of Edo State, after all the then Ooni of Ife, Oba Adesoji Aderemi was a politician and Governor of all old western region in the the first republic. The Oba of Benin can not be playing politics and at the same time claim to be apolitical

the problem we have with political leadership is that most political office holders have watered down the prestige of their office that they do not even know these traditional rulers are under them

That’s why i respect Ganduje for cutting Former Emir Sanusi to size by dethroning him

I respect traditional authority but their role is simply ceremonial- they must never interfere with democratic outcomes for any reason whatsoever

Daum:



Well you are not Edo. To the average Edo man, after God it's the Oba of Benin. All monarchs are political. It only depends to which degree does the throne go about it. I repeat all monarchs, even the Papacy in Rome was very political.

The internet I talked about has nothing to do with politics. It's something I can't share with you. So no governor can really do the sanusi stuff to the Oba of Benin. Not now, maybe 100 years from now.

To me, Obaseki is under the Oba of Benin.
Forget about the constitution for now...

Truthshots2:
[s]I'm from the Obaseki family, yes we are under the Oba of Benin. Even the name Obaseki was given to our ancestor by Oba Ovonramwen. Our Oba is sacred to us. We will always be loyal subjects of our emperor Omo n'Oba n'Edo.[/s]

Gbajure:


For argument sake let's agree that only Oronmiyan mother is Yoruba. And leave the Odùduwà part for other time. Then Eweka too has Yoruba blood then thru his father Oranmiyan. Let call those from Eweka with Yoruba blood via their ancestral mother Binis and the pure Edo people as Edos.

And since only those Binis can become Oba, then the Bini monarchy is part Yoruba then.

And if those are the same people that instituted Warri throne, it also is part Yoruba. I hope u get my point.

TheOgaBoss:
what is this one saying, there is no difference between Edo and bini, go and educate yourself and stop disgracing yourself in a public forum.

Truthshots2:
[s]don't mind the yoruba fools, they don't know us but they want to teach us who we are through the stories their brothers have been fabricating online.[/s]