gregyboy:


Who are you to tell us this, who the hell are you,
The royal house must be edo and not diluted ny foreign bloods

TAO11:
How many times must your A.F.C. Ryder screenshot be debunked before you feel ashamed of yourself ??



Please point out one statement of fact/certainty from your A.F.C. Ryder 1965 screenshot. I would wait.

While I’m waiting, refer carefully to the page below for a citation of A.F.C. Ryder 1969, p.31. — 4 years later.

Cheers!

Cc: ThatFairGuy1, Gbajure, Daum, UGBE634, b4bola, Mraphel

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13410825_d068e656589b4bbbb298a34dd1d5cdcc_jpeg_jpeg60c0b8c88f425856c2f91ce1774288a0

gregyboy:



Never, Tsola should evacuate the stool, the previous olu knew this, he probably wanted non of his children to rule, for personal reasons

They go search for the next olu from the previous
Olu Brothers who children made the requirement

babaolofin:


Where is the place in Eko that has Benin Ancestry names ? None. Before the 21st century history, if such name had existed, it wouldn't have made any issue to the Yorubas. Yorubas had always believed the Binis and Yorubas are the same, until the late Oba of Benin in 2004, thought otherwise.

zeusdgrt:

Lol.....own fire ,the nonsense u post up there is even saying Edo as an affiliate to the north. gibberish at it's peak

KingOKON:
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Where were you when the Oba of Lagos admitted and even made pronouncement on this himself

TAO12:
He who makes a claim has a burden to prove such claim.

You claimed that Benin named these names in Lagos.

As such, you have a burden to prove your own claim by adducing (authentic verifiable) evidence.

Cc: babaolofin

gregyboy:
Attention seeker

KingOKON:
What manner of nonsensical question is that?

Is it that Apongbon and Idumagbo doesn't exist or what?
You explained your Eko, Oyingbo fables now you asking me " burden of prove", why didn't you ask for Eko and oyingbo?

TAO12:
Lies!

Please bring forward a video of such pRoNoUnCeMeNt, not some clownish writings of a Bini columnist.

The only definitive statement I have ever heard Oba Akiolu made in video is to the following effect:

Lagos does NOT belong to Benin kingdom.

No where did he ever assert that “Eko”, et al. were named by Benin.

Neither did he ever assert that the Eko royalty has a paternal/patrilineal Benin ancestry.

If you can’t stand your lies being debunked, then you have good reasons never to be a liar.

Cc: babaolofin

TAO12:
Question? Do you actually know what a question is? Lol.

I didn’t explain nothing to you, child.

@babaolofin did, but he didn’t have to explain anything at all to start with — because you made the claim.

Here is your claim in your own words: “Idumagbo, oyingbo , Eko, apongbon are relics of ancient Benin in lagos”

Now substantiate your claim with evidence because he who makes a claim bears the burden of proof.

Cheers!

KingOKON:
[s]After he had spoken which was on channels TV that the Benins were owners Lagos, what I saw and heard with my 2/naked eyes and ears on TV and d videos circulated widely then..

Why should he have made such careless statement[/s]

KingOKON:
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After he had spoken which was on channels TV that the Benins were owners Lagos, what I saw and heard with my 2/naked eyes and ears on TV and d videos circulated widely then..

Why should he have made such careless statement

KingOKON:
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Apongbon and Idumagbo can you tell how come about both

KingOKON:
The names already answer your question

babaolofin:
Apongbon is a later name of that small area. That area is called Olowogbowo. Several decades ago, the picture of the man with big or well trimmed bushy beards (Irugbon ) after whom Apongbon was named used to be hung on a building there.

You can visit this link about Olowogbo to get the meaning of Apongbon : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olowogbowo

Idu is a station or terminus . Idumagbo, Idumota. You can Mallams or other people.

babaolofin:


Apongbon is a later name of that small area. That area is called Olowogbowo. Several decades ago, the picture of the man with big or well trimmed bushy beards (Irugbon ) after whom Apongbon was named used to be hung on a building there.

You can visit this link about Olowogbo to get the meaning of Apongbon : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olowogbowo

Idu is a station or terminus . Idumagbo, Idumota. You can contact Mallams or other people for more explanation or contact the Bini Prince for the meaning if you don't know it yet.

Ikale Eko area bo se ke kere moniwon, awon to wa nibe awo ni won o.

babaolofin:


You don't know history. We have educated you about this severally on Nairaland and other social media. This is a settled topic. I told you Ado is the first ELEKO. This history is known from time immemorial. I was in Bini as a little child. Before, the Binis and Yorubas are brothers. Nobody cares to separate. It doesn't matter whether somebody migrated from Ife or Benin or Oyo. It was never an Issue. In fact, there is a town in Ekiti with two Kings, one claimed to come from Ife while the other is from Benin. No problem for centuries until this 21st century history of Benin came out in 2004 and other versions from Benin people. Now, there is a serious tussle of Supremacy between the two Kings. Naturally, the King from Ife was recognized.

His Majesty the ELEKO, Oba Akiolu said they (ruling house) are from Benin that was during the exchange of words between Late Ooni Okunade and the late Oba of Benin. The Oba of Benin avoided Alaafin who corroborated what the late Ooni said. Oba of Lagos and the Ooni before this period were not on good terms. Lagos have gotten several ELEKO. The last was Oba Adeyinka Oyekan before the present came during Tinubu governorship. The Benin history of the ELEKO is well known from time immemorial. The owner of Lagos, the AWORIS have nothing against it. It was not that the Benin conquered the AWORIS as recorded in books released between 2008 and 2009. Different books are now coming out because of internal crisis in Yoruba land.

It is not that the AWORIS were driven out of Lagos and their land renamed to bear the Benin names. The AWORIS are the traditional land owners of Lagos. OLOFIN Ogunfuminire migrated from Ife.

TAO12:
When people make claims it is not your duty to dig evidence and disprove them — even though you may choose to.

But it is their duty to attempt to prove their own claim, otherwise they have zero case.

This is a very efficient approach of dealing with chronic liars such as Benin miscreants.

babaolofin:


Apongbon is a later name of that small area. That area is called Olowogbowo. Several decades ago, the picture of the man with big or well trimmed bushy beards (Irugbon ) after whom Apongbon was named used to be hung on a building there.

You can visit this link about Olowogbo to get the meaning of Apongbon : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olowogbowo

Idu is a station or terminus . Idumagbo, Idumota. You can contact Mallams or other people for more explanation or contact the Bini Prince for the meaning if you don't know it yet.

Ikale Eko area bo se ke kere moniwon, awon to wa nibe awo ni won o.

babaolofin:
Thanks. If you don't talk, they will continue to write 21 century history books. I have signed off.

babaolofin:


Thanks. If you don't talk, they will continue to write 21 century history books. I have signed off.

TAO12:
Now way! Don’t tell me this is the best you can do to defend your lie.

KingOKON:
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The Aworis resided in Isale Eko and paid tributaries to the Oba of Benin
The Erelu Donsumu will tell you that too

KingOKON:
. The Eguns of Badagry are core land lord of lagos

KingOKON:
She wrote new history abi. https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/12/benin-people-owned-lagos-aworis-paid-royalties-erelu-abiola-dosunmu/amp/

The Aworis resided in Isale Eko and paid tributaries to the Oba of Benin
The Erelu Donsumu will tell you that too

KingOKON:
Fake laugh to cover the hurt..
Tell me something better

TAO12:
No, they’re not “core landlord”. The Aworis are.

“Aworis ... paid tributaries to the Oba of Benin.”

Meaning that Aworis (not Binis) are the monarchs of Isle-Eko?

Make up your mind please.

Cc: babaolofin

KingOKON:
.Mr man you are not among the royal families of Lagos

like I said earlier Royal households don't need be of same stock of their subjects
The Benin Royal house rule Lagos, Aworis are subjects

TAO12:
The hUrT from your inability to back your lies with ‘evidence’ ??

Wonderful!

Wake me up whenever you can do more than a dead rat.

KingOKON:
.Sleep for all eternity loyal subject...the royals matters the most

TAO12:
If wishes were horses, Binis would ride. LMAO!

We deal with evidence here, not Benin hallucinations.

Evidence please.

KingOKON:
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Mr man you are not among the royal families of Lagos that claim affinity with the Benin, like I said earlier Royal households don't need be of same stock of their subjects
The Benin Royal house rule Lagos, Aworis are subjects