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achorladey:
Na that same holy spirit your founding fathers like Russell, Rutherford e.t.c do those celebrations up there despite. The holy spirit didn't remind them of Leviticus 18:3.

That same holy spirit equally made it clear that your members can copy and do things BABYLON THE GREAT does and inherit heaven too.

Before I forget, Matthew 28:20 was sent down by the holy Spirit in year 2000 C.E.

KNOWMORE56:
Did Jesus taught that couples should wear wedding wrings or flowers for wedding or burial?
The things watch tower point fingers at others, they have their own version of it.

This is one of the reasons it seems as if people are against them, when the same thing is pointed to them.

Flowers for burial ground, mourning, coffin, wedding wrings, kisses, etc, are all pagans practices; or show us where Jehovah gave you go ahead.

KNOWMORE56:
"[/b]..., is mourning exclusively for pagans"[b]


Let's substitute the other words for mourning and see your answer:

is birthday celebration exclusively for pagans?

is Christmas celebration exclusively for pagans?

What are your answers?

KNOWMORE56:
I like this your question. There's no single practice in the church or any Christian assembly that pagans do not have its photocopy/version.

The person who is serving Satan does what is doing to glorify Satan while the person serving God does his own to glorify God.

As for me who 1st start am no be anything, but who you have in mind for doing it.

The gentiles come follow dey do animal sacrifice, Paul said their own (i.e the gentiles') is for Satan.

*. Genesis 31:54 "KJV:Then JACOB OFFERED SACRIFICE UPON THE MOUNT, and called his brethren to eat bread: and they did eat bread, and tarried all night in the mount."

*. Acts 14:13 "KJV:Then THE PRIEST OF JUPITER, which was before their city, BROUGHT OXEN and garlands unto the gates, AND WOULD HAVE DONE SACRIFICE with the people."

*. 1 Corinthians 10:20 "KJV:But I say, that THE THINGS WHICH THE GENTILES SACRIFICE, THEY SACRIFICE TO DEVILS, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils."

Trying to claim that you are superior christians to others because of birthday party and Christmas day celebration is ERROR.

Matthew 28:20, Bros, does Jesus agree with your claim?
Matthew 28:20, you are telling this forum that obeying Jesus Christ is ERROR.
Issorait !

blueAgent:
[s]I see, that's why your church is known for several failed prophecies.
[/s]
John 15:7
New King James Version
If you abide in Me, and My words,abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you.


You must know Jesus words and his commandments before the Holyspirit is given to you.
[s]Which means your Church is far from receiving it.[/s]

Says blueagent who has repeatedly stood against Matthew 28:20 on this thread.
Bros, your personal preferences is more important than obedience to Matthew 28:20.
Your 'oly spirit' no tell you say obedience to Matthew 28:20 and John 15:7 goes hand in hand?

Bros, no dey DECEIVE yourself

blueAgent:
Your salvation is based on principles laid down by men not God?

If you are to fellow principles laid down by so called God's people, which of them would you fellow?
Is it Israel's unfaithfulness to God and their love for pagan culture and traditions , is it the heritage you want?

blueAgent:
As usual you dodged answering my question.

Janosky:
Matthew 28:20, Bros, does Jesus agree with your claim?
Matthew 28:20, you are telling this forum that obeying Jesus Christ is ERROR.
Issorait !

blueAgent:
Clown, you can stop to amuse me. Is better you write your own bible. You are replacing God's law with principles?John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love Where did Jesus mention in the above verses principles
or in the Bible were it is written that we will live by principles? If that's true by whose principles?
Am not surprised your Church is known for false teaching and doctrines.

blueAgent:
Your salvation is based on principles laid down by men not God? If you are to fellow principles laid down by so called God's people, which of them would you fellow? Is it Israel's unfaithfulness to God and their love for pagan culture and traditions , is it the heritage you want?

blueAgent:
I see, that's why your church is known for several failed prophecies.
John 15:7
New King James Version
If you abide in Me, and My words,abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you. You must know Jesus words and his commandments before the Holyspirit is given to you. Which means your Church is far from receiving it.

Janosky:
What was the Almighty Father doing in Luke 15:22 and Exodus 35:22 ?
God approves of wedding rings and wedding.

Matthew 28:20, Jesus gave no approval of birthdays celebrations,

Jehovah's created floral beauty has been used in true worship. The lampstand in the tabernacle was decorated with “flowers of almond . . . and blossoms.” (Exodus 25:31-34) Engravings in the temple included garlands and palm trees. (1 Kings 6:18, 29, 32) Clearly, pagan use of flowers or garlands did not mean that true worshipers always had to avoid using them.​.

KNOWMORE56: I have never celebrated my birthday but I don't condemn those who are doing it (i.e. if no sin is involved).
We are adviced to invite our friends and invite a preacher who will preach to them during the celebration. That way, some souls can be won into the kingdom and Jesus will be glorified No buying/drinking of alcohol, no worldliness of any type. If you know you can't keep to these, better no do am.

MaxInDHouse:
It's obvious that you know Jesus but you can't SAY, POINT, PRESENT, SHOW or SPEAK of the group PRACTICING what Jesus taught.
Whereas regarding the future performance of his followers Jesus confidently said "You are the light of the world, a city built on the mountain top cannot be hidden" Matthew 5:14
So which of all the religions claiming Christians is meeting up with this assured expectation?
I guess you can boldy mention the name of your church now!


You guys are far from been God's true church.

I present to the whole world JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Regarding their past errors Jesus likened you people to the rich man in his Parable of Lazarus.
Jesus said: this rich man begged father Abraham to send someone from the dead to go and warn his brothers, but father Abraham said "they have Moses and the prophets with them" but the rich man said "No father Abraham, they may not believe but if Lazarus should return to them they will believe" then father Abraham said "if they don't believe Moses and the prophets, neither will they believe someone from the dead" Luke 16:27-31

Let all critics of God's people (Jehovah's Witnesses) know today that Jesus purposely used Moses as an example in that Parable because there is no prophet of God that never erred while delivering God's message INCLUDING MOSES!

So if it's the mistakes of God's people that you're banking on then let me tell you that you've lost all your deposits because Moses committed lots and lots and lots of blunders but he remained faithful to the end, that's why JEHOVAH wrote Moses's name in the heart of his people! Deuteronomy 34:10

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Organization have performed more than expectation, honest hearted and sincere people are joining them out of appreciation for their good works! Zechariah 8:23 compare to Matthew 7:16-18

MaxInDHouse:
Read Romans 15:4; 1Corinthians 10:11
We are learning from their faith {Hebrews 13:7} and avoiding the pitfalls that stumbled their feet! Hebrews 11:4-33
YES, JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES have a history an HERITAGE! Hebrews 12:1

MaxInDHouse:
I told you that the book (Bible) belongs to the JWs but you and your cohorts agitating can never understand.
Jesus said "you guys surely have eyes but you will look in vain, you guy surely have ears but you will listen in vain" Matthew 13:13
Now try to meditate on this: God promised that He will right his laws in the hearts of His people so that they will no more teach one another but all of them will know Him! Jeremiah 31:33-34
Know today that it's when you were a toddler that your mum used to teach you LAWS like:-
You must brush your teeth before eating.
You must take your bath.
You must wash your bum after excreting.
You must not eat with dirty dishes and cutleries.
You must not play under cold weather.
But when you've grown up as an adult all these becomes PRINCIPLES instill in your heart, thank mummy for inculcating this principles in your heart while you were growing up! 1Corinthians 13:11

Janosky:
That's the very question blueagent should be asking himself.

@ Matthew 28:20 and John 15:7, did Jesus Christ teach you to practice and copy pagan king Herod and Pharaoh @ Matthew 14:6 and Genesis 40:20?

Janosky:
I have responded to your question, time and again .
But ,You try so hard to console yourself.
Please proceed.

MaxInDHouse:
I told you that the book (Bible) belongs to the JWs but you and your cohorts agitating can never understand.
Jesus said "you guys surely have eyes but you will look in vain, you guy surely have ears but you will listen in vain" Matthew 13:13
Now try to meditate on this: God promised that He will right his laws in the hearts of His people so that they will no more teach one another but all of them will know Him! Jeremiah 31:33-34
Know today that it's when you were a toddler that your mum used to teach you LAWS like:-
You must brush your teeth before eating.
You must take your bath.
You must wash your bum after excreting.
You must not eat with dirty dishes and cutleries.
You must not play under cold weather.
But when you've grown up as an adult all these becomes PRINCIPLES instill in your heart, thank mummy for inculcating this principles in your heart while you were growing up! 1Corinthians 13:11

MaxInDHouse:
I told you that the book (Bible) belongs to the JWs but you and your cohorts agitating can never understand.
Jesus said "you guys surely have eyes but you will look in vain, you guy surely have ears but you will listen in vain" Matthew 13:13
Now try to meditate on this: God promised that He will right his laws in the hearts of His people so that they will no more teach one another but all of them will know Him! Jeremiah 31:33-34
Know today that it's when you were a toddler that your mum used to teach you LAWS like:-
You must brush your teeth before eating.
You must take your bath.
You must wash your bum after excreting.
You must not eat with dirty dishes and cutleries.
You must not play under cold weather.
But when you've grown up as an adult all these becomes PRINCIPLES instill in your heart, thank mummy for inculcating this principles in your heart while you were growing up! 1Corinthians 13:11

blueAgent:
That's why your church keep repeating the same mistakes over and over, they lack a solid foundation. Now let me ask you those people you claim you fellow their heritage were did they get those principles you claim?

KNOWMORE56:
I like this your question. There's no single practice in the church or any Christian assembly that pagans do not have its photocopy/version.

The person who is serving Satan does what is doing to glorify Satan while the person serving God does his own to glorify God.

As for me who 1st start am no be anything, but who you have in mind for doing it.

The gentiles come follow dey do animal sacrifice, Paul said their own (i.e the gentiles') is for Satan.

*. Genesis 31:54 "KJV:Then JACOB OFFERED SACRIFICE UPON THE MOUNT, and called his brethren to eat bread: and they did eat bread, and tarried all night in the mount."

*. Acts 14:13 "KJV:Then THE PRIEST OF JUPITER, which was before their city, BROUGHT OXEN and garlands unto the gates, AND WOULD HAVE DONE SACRIFICE with the people."

*. 1 Corinthians 10:20 "KJV:But I say, that THE THINGS WHICH THE GENTILES SACRIFICE, THEY SACRIFICE TO DEVILS, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils."

Trying to claim that you are superior christians to others because of birthday party and Christmas day celebration is ERROR.

MaxInDHouse:
If you're sure they lack solid foundation, can you just format everything having to do with them in your mind as you'll do with others who are just noisemakers!

blueAgent:
Keep deceiving yourself.
Jesus said one must keep the 10commandments not principles inorder to inherit eternal life.
Matthew 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19:19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

blueAgent:
See how you contradict yourself,
So which law will God write in our hearts? I guess it is Nigerian law.

Why didn't God say he will write principles instead of law?

What are this principles can you list them?

KNOWMORE56:
The spirit wanted them to enjoy small
Lol,

blueAgent:
Answer my question.
Where did your mentors get their principles from?
If we should live by principles, why is fornication wrong or stealing ?
David committed both.

MaxInDHouse:
No it's Cotonou law!


Because you're deaf spiritually speaking, if not any right thinking person will know that laws are written in books while PRINCIPLES are laws written on hearts!


Go and learn from JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

DappaD:
There are a lot of other things wrong with your post but I’ll address just the highlighted.

Doesn’t the Bible say that whether we’re eating or drinking, we should do it to God’s glory? 1Corinthians 10:31, Ecclesiastes 2:24
How does engaging in a practice that has so far been proven to originate with false worship give glory to God?

Perhaps you should take a cue from the Israelites who engaged in calf worship(idolatry) and still termed it “a festival to Jehovah”(Exodus 32:5) and even “sat down to eat and drink” (Exodus 32:6) but was God pleased? Did this celebration glorify his name seeing that the practice originated with false worship?
Exodus 32:10

I thought your moniker spoke much about the kind of person you are, that is, being inquisitive and all that. I’m beginning to see that’s not really the case. Because if you indeed wanted to KNOWMORE, you’ll figure out that the Witnesses have been right all along because you cannot mix celebrations associated with false worship(birthday, Christmas, Easter) and true worship since it has never been acceptable from God’s standpoint at any point in history. 2Kings 17:32-34, 2Corinthians 6:14-17

DappaD:
There are a lot of other things wrong with your post but I’ll address just the highlighted.

Doesn’t the Bible say that whether we’re eating or drinking, we should do it to God’s glory? 1Corinthians 10:31, Ecclesiastes 2:24
How does engaging in a practice that has so far been proven to originate with false worship give glory to God?

Perhaps you should take a cue from the Israelites who engaged in calf worship(idolatry) and still termed it “a festival to Jehovah”(Exodus 32:5) and even “sat down to eat and drink” (Exodus 32:6) but was God pleased? Did this celebration glorify his name seeing that the practice originated with false worship?
Exodus 32:10

I thought your moniker spoke much about the kind of person you are, that is, being inquisitive and all that. I’m beginning to see that’s not really the case. Because if you indeed wanted to KNOWMORE, you’ll figure out that the Witnesses have been right all along because you cannot mix celebrations associated with false worship(birthday, Christmas, Easter) and true worship since it has never been acceptable from God’s standpoint at any point in history. 2Kings 17:32-34, 2Corinthians 6:14-17

KNOWMORE56: @ DappaD...
Do you know that pagans were the 1st to build houses/halls for their gods before David thought of doing the same?
So can you see that your Jehovah's halls are pagans practices?
*. 1 Samuel 5:2 "KJV:When the Philistines took the ark of God, they brought it into THE HOUSE OF DAGON, and set it by Dagon"
*. 1 Chronicles 10:10 "KJV:And they put his armour in the house of their gods, and fastened his head in THE TEMPLE OF DAGON."
this was before the temple in Jerusalem was built.
So now, what do you say is your reason for not celebrating birthdays and Christmas?
Will you avoid building halls for the same reason?
Watch tower is more or less fault finders, accuser of the brethren:
*. 2 Timothy 3:3 "KJV:Without natural affection, trucebreakers, FALSE ACCUSERS, incontinent, fierce, DESPISERS OF THOSE THAT ARE GOOD,"
*. Revelation 12:10 "KJV:And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for THE ACCUSER OF OUR BRETHREN IS CAST DOWN, which accused them before our God day and night."
Watch tower is cast down, in Jesus name.