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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Macktaob(m): 9:31am On Apr 21, 2021
Freciprocal:


1. Physical wealth ( health)
2. Time wealth (freedom)
3. Social wealth (status)

Money is already a given if you have the above three. I might not be financially wealthy, but I have the top 3 that money can't buy.

I would be able to meet my needs. I might not be financially wealthy or rich but I would definitely be contented.
Nice, what floats your boat. Everyone should have this mindset though but for me, not today, tomorrow maybe. cheesy
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by IHelp: 10:03am On Apr 21, 2021
Freciprocal:


1. Physical wealth ( health)
2. Time wealth (freedom)
3. Social wealth (status)

Money is already a given if you have the above three. I might not be financially wealthy, but I have the top 3 that money can't buy.

I would be able to meet my needs. I might not be financially wealthy or rich but I would definitely be contented.

Money can actually facilitate the 3.
From my understanding of social wealth, you don't need to struggle to get it if you already have financial wealth.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 10:20am On Apr 21, 2021
Freciprocal:


1. Physical wealth ( health)
2. Time wealth (freedom)
3. Social wealth (status)

Money is already a given if you have the above three. I might not be financially wealthy, but I have the top 3 that money can't buy.

I would be able to meet my needs. I might not be financially wealthy or rich but I would definitely be contented.


How possible you don't have money and you want to have Time wealth (freedom).

Go to Ikoyi club now, don't be surprised to see people playing tennis now. That is called freedom.


I had an Uncle who was diagnosed of high blood pressure and diabetes at the age of 40, but lived for another 39 years. Died at 79, that is what financial wealth can do for you

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ositadima1(m): 10:20am On Apr 21, 2021
emmanuelewumi:


People have gone broke trying to achieve social wealth.


All you have listed will make you to have respect, admiration from people.


Why do people live above their means?

Many years ago a colleague came to me to get a loan, which was less than a week after we were paid our salary. I asked him why was he so broke, he said he made a pledge to his religious organization.

Who does that, you made a pledge now you can't afford to fuel your car or pay your transport fare to work.

I guess the guy needed to up his status in his religious organization, he needed position in the organization, he craved the respect and praises from his religious leaders.


If I may ask you out of the following types of wealth and you are asked to choose just 3, which ones will you choose.

1. Financial wealth ( money)

2. Time wealth (freedom)

3. Social wealth (status)

4. Physical wealth ( health)

Financial wealth gives you Time wealth, except you want to live a very minimalist lifestyle.

Again, Financial wealth ensures Physical wealth in most cases, except you are under 25 or blessed with good genetics.

Social wealth is neither good nor bad, Osama Bin laden had social wealth among his many followers.

In today's world Financial wealth is all you need, one ring to rule them all.



"One ring to rule them all, One ring to find them, One ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them." - Lord of the Rings.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 10:34am On Apr 21, 2021
ositadima1:


Financial wealth gives you Time wealth, except you want to live a very minimalist lifestyle.

Again, Financial wealth ensures Physical wealth in most cases, except you are under 25 or blessed with good genetics.

Social wealth is neither good nor bad, Osama Bin laden had social wealth among his many followers.

In today's world Financial wealth is all you need, one ring to rule them all.


Depends on the source of the financial wealth. Financial wealth does not give Time wealth ( freedom).

But if 70% and above of your financial wealth is from your investment income or passive income, meaning you are making money while sleeping then you have time wealth.


The Nigerian CEO who earns N400 million per annum without passive income don't have Time wealth (freedom). He must work 365 days in a year.

The shareholder who earns N100 million as dividends has Time wealth compared to the CEO

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 10:36am On Apr 21, 2021
Obj was diagnosed of diabetes about 43 years ago, Baba is now over 80.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by OgogoroFreak(m): 10:39am On Apr 21, 2021
These Aboki people are having a fields day in this country called Nigeria... Imagine, A National database for Cows? angry
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 10:41am On Apr 21, 2021
The two most important reasons why we are hustling is because of financial wealth (money) and time wealth ( freedom).

If we have both money and freedom, every other things should fall in place.


What is the essence of just physical wealth (health) and social wealth (status), without freedom and money.

In no time the healthy person that does not have freedom, will soon have ill health due to stress, overworking, lack of finance

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ositadima1(m): 10:42am On Apr 21, 2021
emmanuelewumi:



Depends on the source of the financial wealth. Financial wealth does not give Time wealth ( freedom).

But if 70% and above of your financial wealth is from your investment income or passive income, meaning you are making money while sleeping then you have time wealth.


The Nigerian CEO who earns N400 million per annum without passive income don't have Time wealth (freedom). He must work 365 days in a year.

The shareholder who earns N100 million as dividends has Time wealth compared to the CEO

I disagree with you, a wealthy individual has choices, he can decide to quit a job or endeavor. If you are stock to your job or income source that demands time, you are not wealthy or financial independent.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ositadima1(m): 10:45am On Apr 21, 2021
emmanuelewumi:
Obj was diagnosed of diabetes about 43 years ago, Baba is now over 80.

If Obj had no money, he would have long been gone, fact. Howmany people die needlessly in Nigeria for lack of proper care or medication?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 10:50am On Apr 21, 2021
ositadima1:


I disagree with you, a wealthy individual has choices, he can decide to quit a job or endeavor. If you are stock to your job or income source that demands time your are not wealthy or financial independent.


N300 million from salary does not make you a wealthy person, you are only rich unless you are using it create passive income.

If you are not making money while sleeping you are not wealthy, you are only financially okay or rich.

The difference between a rich man and a wealthy man, is that a rich man must continue to work or hustle to maintain his life style while a wealthy man will continue to maintain his life style even if he is not working and he also has freedom.

The children of the CEO that doesn't have passive income can't inherit the big salary of their father, while the children and grandchildren of the shareholder with a dividend income of over N100 million will continue to enjoy the investment income from their father's legacy

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ositadima1(m): 10:56am On Apr 21, 2021
emmanuelewumi:



N300 million from salary does not make you a wealthy person, you are only rich unless you are using it create passive income.

If you are not making money while sleeping you are not wealthy, you are only financially okay or rich.

The difference between a rich man and a wealthy man, is that a rich man must continue to work or hustle to maintain his life style while a wealthy man will continue to maintain his life style even if he is not working and he also has freedom.

The children of the CEO that doesn't have passive income can't inherit the big salary of their father, while the children and grandchildren of the shareholder with a dividend income of over N100 million will continue to enjoy the investment income from their father's legacy

Very true.

Sorry to those I may be annoying by quoting long posts, don't be lazy, scrolllllllll downnnnnnn! grin
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ositadima1(m): 11:02am On Apr 21, 2021
Tobex4realTobex234:


Don't know your profession and I don't care. But people earn 80k USD in Nigeria though. They are usually remote workers working for companies abroad.

So? What is ur point then? Statistically, it is far easier to travel abroad and establish than getting those kind of Jobs.

Last bullet, what is the percentage of Nigerians that earn 94 mil naira per year? See ur head.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Freciprocal: 11:03am On Apr 21, 2021
emmanuelewumi:



How possible you don't have money and you want to have Time wealth (freedom).

Go to Ikoyi club now, don't be surprised to see people playing tennis now. That is called freedom.


I had an Uncle who was diagnosed of high blood pressure and diabetes at the age of 40, but lived for another 39 years. Died at 79, that is what financial wealth can do for you

Inheritance
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Freciprocal: 11:06am On Apr 21, 2021
emmanuelewumi:
The two most important reasons why we are hustling is because of financial wealth (money) and time wealth ( freedom).

If we have both money and freedom, every other things should fall in place.


What is the essence of just physical wealth (health) and social wealth (status), without freedom and money.

In no time the healthy person that does not have freedom, will soon have ill health due to stress, overworking, lack of finance

A fitness coach who doubles as a blogger (eg Youtube vlogger)
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 11:07am On Apr 21, 2021
ositadima1:


So? What is ur point then? Statistically, it is far easier to travel abroad and establish than getting those kind of Jobs.

Last bullet, what is the percentage of Nigerians that earn 94 mil naira per year? See ur head.

grin
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 11:14am On Apr 21, 2021
Freciprocal:


Inheritance


Don't ever rely on an inheritance, lottery and handouts from people that is the easiest to become poor and lose your respect.

Income from my inheritance are all reinvested, it is 50% the cash flow from the reinvested fund that I spend.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 11:16am On Apr 21, 2021
emmanuelewumi:



N300 million from salary does not make you a wealthy person, you are only rich unless you are using it create passive income.

If you are not making money while sleeping you are not wealthy, you are only financially okay or rich.

The difference between a rich man and a wealthy man, is that a rich man must continue to work or hustle to maintain his life style while a wealthy man will continue to maintain his life style even if he is not working and he also has freedom.

The children of the CEO that doesn't have passive income can't inherit the big salary of their father, while the children and grandchildren of the shareholder with a dividend income of over N100 million will continue to enjoy the investment income from their father's legacy

Some people actually enjoy what they do for a living and wouldn’t mind working until they die. They don’t need any freedom to be going to ikoyi club to play tennis every morning. Trust me, it gets very boring after a while.

Some people have high paying jobs they enjoy that come with job security. They don’t need passive income to be happy. They make good money at jobs that come with great retirement benefits.

Not everyone wants to keep an inheritance for their children. These days, the wealthiest people are giving away all their wealth. They don’t believe in spoiling their kids with generational wealth. Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Jackie Chan, Ashton Kutcher, Mark Zuckerberg and many more are giving away their wealth.

At the end of the day, na ‘to each his own’

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 11:16am On Apr 21, 2021
Freciprocal:


Inheritance


If you are lucky to have an inheritance, you should be responsible to leave a bigger legacy and inheritance for your own progeny

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Freciprocal: 11:21am On Apr 21, 2021
emmanuelewumi:



Don't ever rely on an inheritance, lottery and handouts from people that is the easiest to become poor and lose your respect.

Income from my inheritance are all reinvested, it is 50% the cash flow from the reinvested fund that I spend.

At least we can both agree that provided you have an inheritance, financial wealth would be the least of your concerns when it comes to the 4 types of Wealth
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Freciprocal: 11:22am On Apr 21, 2021
emmanuelewumi:



If you are lucky to have an inheritance, you should be responsible to live a bigger legacy and inheritance for your own progeny

Not necessarily, one can have an inheritance and still be gay. Not concerned about procreation.

He might also give his/her whole estate to a charity
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 11:23am On Apr 21, 2021
Lazyyouth4u:


Some people actually enjoy what they do for a living and wouldn’t mind working until they die. They don’t need any freedom to be going to ikoyi club to play tennis every morning. Trust me, it gets very boring after a while.

Some people have high paying jobs they enjoy that come with job security. They don’t need passive income to be happy. They make good money at jobs that come with great retirement benefits.

Not everyone wants to keep an inheritance for their children. These days, the wealthiest people are giving away all their wealth. They don’t believe in spoiling their kids with generational wealth. Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Jackie Chan, Ashton Kutcher, Mark Zuckerberg and many more are giving away their wealth.

At the end of the day, na ‘to each his own’


If they enjoy the job so much, they can decide to work for free.


You heard of the retired doctor in Borno, that stayed in Maiduguri and continue to render his services free to the poor that is his own way of giving back to the poor.


We have a lot of jobless people in the country, we need to learn how to leave when the ovation is loudest and create opportunities for the young generation.


In most cases behind that fallacy of I am enjoying what I am doing and I will work till I die, there is someone who has not invested well, made preparation for the unexpected and made adequate plans for retirement and old age


If the doctors tells him to go on bed rest for 2 years because of ill health, he can't afford to do so because their is no passive income to sustain him

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 11:28am On Apr 21, 2021
emmanuelewumi:



If they enjoy the job so much, they can decide to work for free.


You heard of the retired doctor in Borno, that stayed in Maiduguri and continue to render his services free to the poor that is his own way of giving back to the poor.


We have a lot of jobless people in the country, we need to learn how to leave when the ovation is loudest and create opportunities for the young generation.


In most cases behind that fallacy of I am enjoying what I am doing and I will work till I die, there is someone who has not invested well, made preparation for the unexpected and made adequate plans for retirement and old age


If the doctors tells him to go on bed rest for 2 years because of ill health, he can't afford to do so because their is no passive income to sustain him

I don’t agree with you. Look at Warren Buffet. He continues to work and make money at his old age. Steve Jobs with all his money worked until the day he died. Even in Naija, Dangote, Tony, Jim and co have made enough money but continue to work because they enjoy what they do.

Not everyone’s goal is early retirement. Different people with different goals.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 11:43am On Apr 21, 2021
Lazyyouth4u:


I don’t agree with you. Look at Warren Buffet. He continues to work and make money at his old age. Steve Jobs with all his money worked until the day he died. Even in Naija, Dangote, Tony, Jim and co have made enough money but continue to work because they enjoy what they do.

Not everyone’s goal is early retirement. Different people with different goals.


The people listed don't resume at work at 8am and close at 5pm, they don't work 365 days a year.


They all have passive incomes that are multiple of their active income.


Dangote's salary and allowance as the chairman of Dangote Cement is N60 million, but got over N200 billion as dividends.


Warren Buffet salary is $100,000 but earned billions of dollars as passive income

These are Investors and entrepreneurs, they are creating jobs and income opportunities for people.


You can't compare them to a CEO that doesn't have a business that employs 40 people, Investments that creates passive income and he is telling you that he enjoys what he is doing.


To the super rich closing deals and making more money from the deals give them orgasms

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 11:58am On Apr 21, 2021
emmanuelewumi:



The people listed don't resume at work at 8am and close at 5pm, they don't work 365 days a year.


They all have passive incomes that are multiple of their active income.


Dangote's salary and allowance as the chairman of Dangote Cement is N60 million, but got over N200 billion as dividends.


Warren Buffet salary is $100,000 but earned billions of dollars as passive income

These are Investors and entrepreneurs, they are creating jobs and income opportunities for people.


You can't compare them to a CEO that doesn't not have a business that employs 40 people, Investments that creates passive income and he is telling you that he enjoys what he is doing.


To the super rich closing deals and making more money from the deals give them orgasms

There are people working 9 to 5 in multinationals, finance, international orgs and so on. They are pulling in 6 figures in USD salaries and enjoy what they do. Their earnings are stable and they have job security. They will continue to make their great salaries that are much higher than the passive incomes of most Nigerians. They enjoy their jobs as well and their retirement benefits are way higher than what most Nigerians can ever invest.

Should they resign and start dealing with the stress of investments when they have jobs that pay them much more? Just curious.

By the way, the likes of Dangote and co you have mentioned are getting their non salary income from their businesses not investments. That is work in my opinion.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 12:05pm On Apr 21, 2021
Lazyyouth4u:


There are people working 9 to 5 in multinationals, finance, international orgs and so on. They are pulling in 6 figures in USD salaries and enjoy what they do. Their earnings are stable and they have job security. They will continue to make their great salaries that are much higher than the passive incomes of most Nigerians. They enjoy their jobs as well and their retirement benefits are way higher than what most Nigerians can ever invest.

Should they resign and start dealing with the stress of investments when they have jobs that pay them much more? Just curious.

By the way, the likes of Dangote and co you have mentioned are getting their non salary income from their businesses not investments. That is work in my opinion.



They enjoy the temporary security and comfort, not the job. Those who enjoy their jobs will do it for free


The reason we are all working is to pay bills, save, Invest and achieve financial freedom. A worker that can't afford to retire easily at 65 is due to the fear of the unknown, lack of plans for the future or the golden handcuffs.


Nobody will work forever, if we want to our health won't allow us.

Every worker will either do this at a point in our lives, resign, retire or retrenched

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Damolux01(m): 12:28pm On Apr 21, 2021
Will there be auction this week? When was the last one held please?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Macktaob(m): 1:21pm On Apr 21, 2021
emmanuelewumi:



N300 million from salary does not make you a wealthy person, you are only rich unless you are using it create passive income.

If you are not making money while sleeping you are not wealthy, you are only financially okay or rich.

The difference between a rich man and a wealthy man, is that a rich man must continue to work or hustle to maintain his life style while a wealthy man will continue to maintain his life style even if he is not working and he also has freedom.

The children of the CEO that doesn't have passive income can't inherit the big salary of their father, while the children and grandchildren of the shareholder with a dividend income of over N100 million will continue to enjoy the investment income from their father's legacy
So, say for example: A earns 400m in a month with no passive income but saves 300m = 3.6b a year

B earns 100m a month, saves only 20m due to 50m investments gradually with passive return of 60m = 80m monthly inflow = 960m a year.

You'd still consider the passive income earner which is B in this case the wealthy?

You still feel B's kids would be more fortunate at both's death period if their demise coincides same time frame?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 1:26pm On Apr 21, 2021
Damolux01:
Will there be auction this week? When was the last one held please?

It is likely to be next week...It happened last week. Haven't seen the calender though.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 1:40pm On Apr 21, 2021
Macktaob:

So, say for example: A earns 400m in a month with no passive income but saves 300m = 3.6b a year

B earns 100m a month, saves only 20m due to 50m investments gradually with passive return of 60m = 80m monthly inflow = 960m a year.

You'd still consider the passive income earner which is B in this case the wealthy?

You still feel B's kids would be more fortunate at both's death period if their demise coincides same time frame?


N3.6 billion will earn how much in interest in a year?


When he stops working how long can he survive on the N3.6 billion, if he can survive on it till eternity he has done well for himself.


It has to do with how much you make in your sleep ie without lifting a finger and what percentage of it you spend.


And can this cash flow sustain you forever, if you can't work again due to age or ill health. Can this passive income continue to flow even when we are dead
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ojesymsym: 1:48pm On Apr 21, 2021
All these una 400million per month wen una de call, which people when de work de receive am for Nigeria. Secondly, which kind of workers also de receive am for US?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Macktaob(m): 1:57pm On Apr 21, 2021
emmanuelewumi:



N3.6 billion will earn how much in interest in a year?


When he stops working how long can he survive on the N3.6 billion, if he can survive on it till eternity he has done well for himself.


It has to do with how much you make in your sleep ie without lifting a finger and what percentage of it you spend.


And can this cash flow sustain you forever, if you can't work again due to age or ill health. Can this passive income continue to flow even when we are dead
That 3.6b is just a year savings. 15 years at a stretch should be 54b if my calculation is right. That's more than enough for him and his at least one generation to live on considering they also would grow to start working for themselves.

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