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Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by Pacesetter123(m): 2:28pm On Apr 22, 2021
But sometimes,I wonder who did this to us as a country.How can somebody ordered the brutal killing of a promising young man like that in a federal institution(if it's true) and nobody cares to ask him anything? Instead,after some years,he is rewarded with a ministerial position.
What type of religion is this?
What type of nation is this?
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by Agbegbaorogboye: 2:30pm On Apr 22, 2021
One man up there thinks I'm a fool regaling him with foolishness. He forgets that only those who play with sands get their hands dirty, and playing with sand is a foolish pastime of kids.

When the issue of Pantami on CIA watchlist first broke, I said it was too early to make judgments and conclusions as to what was true or not. Any observant person would have seen that the story did not just come out of the blues, there was a context to it and that was yet to be fully revealed.

But not the online merchant posing as a fact-checker. His kind quickly went to town to pronounce the subject of their defense free from guilt on the premise that no one has seen the so-called watchlist as if that was a guarantee that he was indeed not there. The absence of evidence of oxygen does not mean it does not exist. While the US does not divulge information about its CIA list to anyone journalist or not, it is obvious there are backchannel means of knowing if someone is, or has appeared on the list before. It was this possibility those enhancers sought to shut out with the verdict of " If we don't see it, then it's not there".

Fast forward to today, it has emerged incontrovertibly that the subject has received training from Salafists in Saudi, expressed admiration for Bin Laden, has contact and is actually well known to Boko haram top hierarchy and has had violent extremist rhetoric and even in some cases actions to his credit.

Can we now step back a bit and ask that initial question which was whitewashed by the soldiers of fortune when it popped up and see if the answer still remains the same? Here let me recall it. Is Pantami on, or has he ever been on the CIA terror watchlist?
Let the evidence speak for themselves.

cc: naptu2 wickedfacts
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by Agbegbaorogboye: 2:33pm On Apr 22, 2021
numericalguy:


So because Sunday Achi is from Kaduna.. Has it stopped the IPOD-miscreants from attacking Pantami? Those IPOD-miscreants will use anything to attack Pantami.
Ok sir. Since IPOD is your present headache. I commiserate with you.
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by flames01: 2:34pm On Apr 22, 2021

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Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by mrkia(m): 2:39pm On Apr 22, 2021
Alhamdulillah! For always suing for peace

because am MUSLIM, we know nothing

but peace because ALLAH preaches

PEACE
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by Agbegbaorogboye: 2:49pm On Apr 22, 2021
aboubkr:
All these lies and deceit will not bring down the minister you better go and link your bvn with your line

Hahahaha. BVN cheesy cheesy

He doesn't even understand the basics yet he's taken sides
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by Agbegbaorogboye: 2:52pm On Apr 22, 2021
flames01:


Antichristian, so, you guys are using your mosques to commit murder.

Your religion is a curse to humanity
That one will run like a rat from this
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by GreatThings: 2:54pm On Apr 22, 2021
Empiree:
CHRISTIANITY DESTROYED NIGERIA ECONOMY, SOCIAL FABRIC, PEACE AND UNITY & BROUGHT INSECURITIES IN THE COUNTRY


Still on Pantami....


I really intended this Ramadan to be a quiet one. But these deluded Islamophobic Anti- Pantamist are irritatingly disturbing.
So a document was circulated on twitter yesterday where it was said the minister of information chaired a meeting for Islamisation and declaration of jihad.


First of all, it will take a great deal of stupidity to believe that document is anything close to real. Just read the first few lines. No, the very heading betrays the forgery.


But when you have an army of uncritical, mindless , internet mobs you can sell any stupidity. This document is particularly sinister as it drags even the amiable Sultan of Sokoto, the Jamaatu Nasr Islami into the picture and for good measure it ropes in political wounds : Jonah Jang and Yakowa.


The most annoying thing is this is a country that has seen the worst of divisive rhetoric from Christian leaders , remember Ayo Oritsejafor?. Who threatened violence , severally and well documented , while Boko haram was killing Muslims in the North East. Where were the condemnations?. Or that rabble rousing fanatic, Pastor Bosun Emmanuel, who made a lengthy lecture of how Muslims were to be dealt with not only politically but even at the level of marriage.


I remember him saying no Christians should be allowed to marry Muslims.
Please listen to him again. You'll still find his lecture online. In fact someone sent a document allegedly also written by Christians on how to christianise Nigeria, but I don't do my stuff that way. You've got to have indisputable fact if you're going public with things of this nature. This is what the bigots on the other side lack.


If someone comes to you with this nonsense , question his sanity first, and then ask him if his parents haven't really wasted their money sending him to school where he didn't even get to learn critical thinking. Shikena.




P.s. I fit curse any Muslim who gives an apologetic response to these islamophobes. Tell them to bring it on.


P.s.s for whatever reason I wish Isa Pantami was El Rufai. Really.

©Ustadh Kabir Al Asfar


Attention Federal Republic Of Nigeria: You need to review churches curriculum. Churches are training churchgoers intolerance and insecurities in the country

I have a question to ask you, why cant muslims be the ones spearheading peace efforts in the country. Why cant they be at the forefront of it?

Don't they believe God made everyone on earth and loves them. Maybe I am superimposing the Christian view here. It says, "God makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust." " For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?"

It seems the answer is nobody is righteous my sin is not greater than yours - you pulled up Ayo Oritsejafor(P.S. I did a quick search didnt find anything, can you drop a link), don't you have a righteous stance in your book to condemn it all. Please explain
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by naptu2: 2:56pm On Apr 22, 2021
Aw! Someone on this thread is still trying hard to entertain me? Times up, lights are out and the curtains are drawn.

Your earlier performance was pretty boring and I'm no longer interested. Not reading anything you are posting as a result of your shocking inability to make sense.

Goodbye wink
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by Donedeal1(m): 3:08pm On Apr 22, 2021
Whatever evil that men do live to haunt them,as it was written"your sin will find you out"only God knows what the young man would have been today.
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by perdollar(m): 3:11pm On Apr 22, 2021
Kill in my name all d unbelievers and I promise u my paradise wt 77 virgins........by Allah
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by GreatThings: 3:11pm On Apr 22, 2021
compton11:
but pastor can be vice president right?

This Pastor is a Lawyer from the University of Lagos, gotten his Maters from the London School of Economics which we all agree is academically rigorous to some extent. He has had a whole career in law that is scrutinizable, and not vague in any sense.

Just pointing out.
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by Empiree: 3:18pm On Apr 22, 2021
GreatThings:


I have a question to ask you, why cant muslims be the ones spearheading peace efforts in the country. Why cant they be at the forefront of it?

Don't they believe God made everyone on earth and loves them. Maybe I am superimposing the Christian view here. It says, "God makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust." " For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?"

It seems the answer is nobody is righteous my sin is not greater than yours - you pulled up Ayo Oritsejafor(P.S. I did a quick search didnt find anything, can you drop a link), don't you have a righteous stance in your book to condemn it all. Please explain
let me make something clear to you. I do not believe in CHRISTIANITY fake "love & peace". You only preach it but do not practice it.

I am honestly not interested in typing much at this moment because I simply lost interest unlike yesterday. Maybe depending on your reply I may be. But let me help you direct you to my conversations with a fellow Christian yesterday if that will help a bit?.


Here we go. In this thread below, kindly scroll a little down until you see where I started contributing and a guy responded to me. You don't need to read all the comments. You can simply read only my chats with the guy by skipping randomly. If you have further questions, God willing I am too answer if I am so wish.

https://www.nairaland.com/6509446/want-isa-pantami-terrorist-watchlist/3

Also, if you can, check my profile and read my first thread titled: Christian Association Of NIGERIA
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by Agbegbaorogboye: 3:19pm On Apr 22, 2021
naptu2:
Aw! Someone on this thread is still trying hard to entertain me? Times up, lights are out and the curtains are drawn.

Your earlier performance was pretty boring and I'm no longer interested. Not reading anything you are posting as a result of your shocking inability to make sense.

Goodbye wink

You can revel in tomfoolery to cover your deep shame all you want

Consider yourself exposed and disgraced

Bye
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by stormborn28(m): 3:39pm On Apr 22, 2021
seunmsg:
Pantami should resign honorably or be sacked. His past is too soiled up to be overlooked. We can’t afford to keep extremist like him in sensitive and senior government position.
he he he he he breeder....blocus don't meet puna
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by GreatThings: 3:40pm On Apr 22, 2021
Empiree:
let me make something clear to you. I do not believe in CHRISTIANITY fake "love & peace". You only preach it but do not practice it.

I am honestly not interested in typing much at this moment because I simply lost interest unlike yesterday. Maybe depending on your reply I may be. But let me help you direct you to my conversations with a fellow Christian yesterday if that will help a bit?.


Here we go. In this thread below, kindly scroll a little down until you see where I started contributing and a guy responded to me. You don't need to read all the comments. You can simply read only my chats with the guy by skipping randomly. If you have further questions, God willing I am too answer if I am so wish.

https://www.nairaland.com/6509446/want-isa-pantami-terrorist-watchlist/3

Also, if you can, check my profile and read my first thread titled: Christian Association Of NIGERIA

Obviously you don't believe in love and peace at all.

Okay do you have a version? muslim version of love and peace that you believe in, a version that is consistent to condemn all wrongs and not just fight over the lesser evil. I guess that is what I am asking.

The picture on the thread is so faint and its cut off in all the important parts. cry Down this road of half-information, please send the link to a website or something that is more detailed. Thank You.

Since the hope of you providing a detailed link are slim, those are prayer points. James 4:2 said " And when you do ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may squander it on your pleasures" God clearly answers prayers aligned with his will, he is unquestionable. We legit don't have a concept of fatwa and you are trying really hard to place this as an equivalent.

I just want to clarify for other people who might be reading this thread as well.
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by QMNIX: 3:40pm On Apr 22, 2021
In a sane society, Scotland yard will open an investigation into the allegation. If it is true, this is how terrorism starts and then become a full blown monster that is taking Nigeria down.
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by Empiree: 3:49pm On Apr 22, 2021
GreatThings:


Obviously you don't believe in love and peace at all.

Okay do you have a version? muslim version of love and peace that you believe in, a version that is consistent to condemn all wrongs and not just fight over the lesser evil. I guess that is what I am asking.

The picture on the thread is so faint and its cut off in all the important parts. cry Down this road of half-information, please send the link to a website or something that is more detailed. Thank You.
which picture are you referring to here?. Is this a very tiny attachment?. Is stop, that's why I advised you to visit my profile. You will see full docs there. But it is old docs as old as 26 yrs and somewhat faded but you can still read out. I also helped readers write it out to read for themselves.



Since the hope of you providing a detailed link are slim, those are prayer points. James 4:2 said " And when you do ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may squander it on your pleasures" God clearly answers prayers aligned with his will, he is unquestionable. We legit don't have a concept of fatwa and you are trying really hard to place this as an equivalent.

I just want to clarify for other people who might be reading this thread as well.

oh so you are aware but you pretend you didn't know?. If you know, then you should have seen the link in my profile. It is interesting you said it is "prayer points". I'm glad. So your prayer points called for death and destruction of Muslims in 1994. Is that peaceful message?. I don't know why Abacha didn't deal with your leaders those days and let them for away with it
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by Dcube212: 4:00pm On Apr 22, 2021
faleyebee:

Your contact abeg
HERE is my contact on the design
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by Blackdisciple(m): 4:00pm On Apr 22, 2021
Mikehot:
This man has a supposed PhD we didn't hear of his academic exploits back in school



It begs the question are northerners actually going to academic schools or jihad training?

A lots of them holding public offices today when to the jihad training they called Islamic school, Look at Murtalab still in US prison , he will tell his dad he is going to school but unknowingly to the dad he was only going to that their jihad training saying it's an Islamic school , they only teach them hates that's all
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by NikAustine: 4:10pm On Apr 22, 2021
rowland545:
thanks for bringing it up...how many years did it take them to achieve stability?
I doubt it took more than 20 years unlike it taking Nigeria more than 60..
Ok how about Singapore and Malaysia?.
Bro the truth is that you're scare of your investments if Nigeria does divide. nothing else.
Nigeria is only better together if it restructure and Citizenship is more pronounced instead of indigeneship
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by NikAustine: 4:11pm On Apr 22, 2021
rowland545:
thanks for bringing it up...how many years did it take them to achieve stability?
I doubt it took more than 20 years unlike it taking Nigeria more than 60..
Ok how about Singapore and Malaysia?.
Bro the truth is that you're scare of your investments if Nigeria does divide. nothing else.
Nigeria is only better together if it restructure and Citizenship is more pronounced instead of indigeneshi, Merits.
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by numericalguy(m): 4:11pm On Apr 22, 2021
Agbegbaorogboye:

Ok sir. Since IPOD is your present headache. I commiserate with you.


You are the one to be commensurated with..

Since you are having stomach ache because of Pantami.. I wonder why you have not blamed Pantami for your w0rt-hless l0w life.

You may blame Pantami for the rituals, 419 and baby factory in your village too while you are at it.
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by GreatThings: 4:22pm On Apr 22, 2021
Empiree:
which picture are you referring to here?. Is this a very tiny attachment?. Is stop, that's why I advised you to visit my profile. You will see full docs there. But it is old docs as old as 26 yrs and somewhat faded but you can still read out. I also helped readers write it out to read for themselves.



oh so you are aware but you pretend you didn't know?. If you know, then you should have seen the link in my profile. It is interesting you said it is "prayer points". I'm glad. So your prayer points called for death and destruction of Muslims in 1994. Is that peaceful message?. I don't know why Abacha didn't deal with your leaders those days and let them for away with it

Except if I dont know how to use Nairaland, I am not seeing anything in your profile.

Why I mentioned they are prayer points if you read what I wrote is to point out to others that you are falsely equating prayer points to fatwa.

The scrap of paper that is there does not have a heading, is cut off at the important parts, I can only see "PRAY FOR" So I am making a comment based on that. I cannot see the whole prayer point, the only one that was complete, is the political force prayer. And I am considering other people will read the comments so I take every opportunity to explain. Just show the whole thing.

Why are you desperate to fight with people based on a piece of paper that is cut-off, has no heading, no one knows who wrote it. Why the desperation, who taught you that? Where did that come from? A piece of paper. In the world where we have courts, a piece of paper.
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by Empiree: 4:30pm On Apr 22, 2021
GreatThings:


Except if I dont know how to use Nairaland, I am not seeing anything in your profile.

Why I mentioned they are prayer points if you read what I wrote is to point out to others that you are falsely equating prayer points to fatwa.

The scrap of paper that is there does not have a heading, is cut off at the important parts, I can only see "PRAY FOR" So I am making a comment based on that. I cannot see the whole prayer point, the only one that was complete, is the political force prayer. And I am considering other people will read the comments so I take every opportunity to explain. Just show the whole thing.

Why are you desperate to fight with people based on a piece of paper that is cut-off, has no heading, no one knows who wrote it. Why the desperation, who taught you that? Where did that come from? A piece of paper. In the world where we have courts, a piece of paper.
https://www.nairaland.com/5737607/christian-association-nigeria-violation-religious
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by LibrarianD: 4:39pm On Apr 22, 2021
AbuAeesha:
where is evidence pantami gave order of the killing?because definitely pantami didn't kill him.
where is the evidence that the son was actually killed inside the mosque?
is he the first person to die inside a worship centre? dont't people die inside churches,hostels?are the priests held responsible for the killings?
am not in any way promoting unlawful killing but when you have to accuse someone do it with proof beyond reasonable doubt.
hypocrisy is an ugly character.
quote with proof beyond reasonable doubt


You cannot properly explain your point without an attempt at explaining "Fatwa" in details.
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by President99: 4:49pm On Apr 22, 2021
Pantami questionnaire phd thesis
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by Agbegbaorogboye: 5:24pm On Apr 22, 2021
numericalguy:



You are the one to be commensurated with..

Since you are having stomach ache because of Pantami.. I wonder why you have not blamed Pantami for your w0rt-hless l0w life.

You may blame Pantami for the rituals, 419 and baby factory in your village too while you are at it.
No I don't blame him for the rituals, 419 or so-called baby factory since I believe he can't have birthed all those babies never mind the numbers he easily identifies as his.
What I've blamed him for is his penchant adulation of terrorists and his terrorism affiliation and fantasies which has led to the death of a young man at least.
I really don't know what IPOB has to do with the matter except if you mean as a proscribed terrorist group, they are supposed to support him which strangely they have done the opposite. Perhaps that's your angst with them. Which will lead me to ask why you're angry IPOB refuses to show support to a terrorist. Are you one or aspiring to be.
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by ThatFairGuy1: 5:43pm On Apr 22, 2021
Juliusmalema:


You see that thing I keep saying. If they declare fatwa on you, they will pretend to roll with you or be friendly but all is geared towards ending your life.

There is this Moniker thatfairguy1, every small thing he will tell u to travel and see for yourself. Come osogbo and see that we are not extremist..

But in essence they have declared fatwa on you just how to successfully execute is what they have in mind.

I pity those who sleeps on same room with these guys....una name na sorry because you will murdered without mercy....Avoid them, they never stand for anything good.

RIP Sunday Achi for felling to the clutches of Fatwa.
Nuisance cheesy

Fatwa is an Islamic injunction on issue that isn't clear, it doesn't mean death sentence literally.

Besides, Have I ever asked you to visit anywhere, comic propagandist
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by ThatFairGuy1: 5:45pm On Apr 22, 2021
LibrarianD:



You cannot properly explain your point without an attempt at explaining "Fatwa" in details.
Fatwa is an Islamic injunction on an uncleared issue.

It doesn't literally means Death sentence
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by rowland545(m): 6:20pm On Apr 22, 2021
NikAustine:
I doubt it took more than 20 years unlike it taking Nigeria more than 60..
Ok how about Singapore and Malaysia?.
Bro the truth is that you're scare of your investments if Nigeria does divide. nothing else.
Nigeria is only better together if it restructure and Citizenship is more pronounced instead of indigeneshi, Merits.
1)u doubt it took 20 yrs

U r not even sure...


Yes I agree wit u restructuring is better than break up...

I was beginning to think how long it will take u to see the truth..
Re: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by seunayantokun(m): 6:27pm On Apr 22, 2021
I don't believe it's only this man, there would be many others like him in many sensitive positions of the government since their oga is there.

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