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DappaD:
First of, was it you I quoted that you replied me these three times? Why are you swallowing panadol for another person’s headache?



Because mourning is completely natural and common to all humans regardless of tribe, culture, language. Numbers 20:29, Ecclesiastes 3:4

Question is, what is natural about celebrating your birthday? Don’t you know that there are still ancient civilizations today where they hold feasts and make merry and mourn their dead since those are more like natural feelings common to all humans but never give importance to the day they were born? If the white men who invaded Africa didn’t tell you to place importance on your birthday, would you have cared? Don’t you also know that placing emphasis on your date of birth gives rise to astrology/horoscopes which are forms of spiritism that Satan is currently using to blind the eyes of billions? 2Corinthians 4:4

When you begin to hear someone say that because he or she was born in so-so month, then it means he is either shy, strong or intelligent etc making it look all fun and harmless but we know the real mastermind behind all of such(2Corinthians 2:11, 1Peter 5:8.) and all those engaging in spiritistic practices will never see God’s Kingdom. Galatians 5:19-21

That’s why there are a thousand and one things wrong with birthdays but the joy of downing Isi-ewu with Orijin has blurred your reasoning!




If weddings meant nothing to Jesus, why did he attend one(John 2:1) and use a similar scenario on a number of occasions in his parables and teachings? Matthew 22:1-14, 25:10, Luke 14:8
Why did Jesus not attend Herod’s birthday party or why did Jesus not make use of birthdays in his illustrations like he did with marriage ceremonies—you cannot even explain why a marriage feast is one of the important facets in Biblical prophecy. Revelation 19:7-9



Wait, I thought Barristter07 dealt severely with this topic of Romans 14:6, even using a Yoruba traditional feast(which I’m not familiar with) as an example? Paul was not referring to God-dishonouring celebrations after all there were many revelries and wild parties held on days set aside by pagans in Paul’s day but he warned Christians never to get involved with them(Romans 13:13) so the point you tried to make with Romans 14:6 is already dead on arrival.



The references below proves that even the first century Christians who saw Jesus live and direct were also JOKERS so we’re following in their footsteps. 1Corinthians 10:11

“During the Christian era, the early followers of Christ didn’t believe in celebrating birthdays, preferring—as was the case in earlier eras—of honoring one’s death. Their belief was that only in death was there true deliverance worthy of honoring one’s ‘death day’ [a reference to Ecclesiastes 7:1, where Solomon asserts that the day of one’s death is better than the day of one’s birth]. They also believed that Egyptian and Greek birthday celebrations were pagan festivals and should not be duplicated”—(“The Strange Origins of Our Modern Birthday Customs,” August 13, 2008).

“Nay, indeed, the law does not permit us to make festivals at the birth of our children, and
thereby afford occasion of drinking to excess.”—(Josephus. Against Apion, Book II, Chapter 26)



Please be civilized and stop using profanity because you’re intent on proving a dead point. Go and report to the congregation the person in question associates with and if your claim is found true, let’s see if his actions will be condoned(1Corinthians 6:18) or if he will be disciplined accordingly. 1Corinthians 5:12, Hebrews 12:11

MaxInDHouse:
You've said nothing worthwhile, but i can assist you with thought provoking questions that could make your comments meaningful to people!

Has the Messiah (Christ) come?
What was his name?
How about his teachings?
How can we identify his true followers?
Can you list their achievements?

But whether his blue, black, green, yellow or white is nonsense and ingredients because nobody has seen God at any fuc*ing time so nobody needs his skin colour for any reason whatsoever!

blueAgent:
I know your type, they claim not to celebrate birthday but commit a more gravious sin.

blueAgent:
No wonder you people are a joke.
Paul is referring to days, months, and seasons observed in honour of pagan gods not birthdays.

When one appreciates God for been a year old weather with feast or not , it is not a sin.

[s]Only false Church like yours claims it is a sin[/s].

blueAgent:
You are comparing Apple to Oranges, what a dumb comparism.

Just like the pagans mourn and pract6 their pagan rites in mourning so also christains mourn but do it in way acceptable to God.

Birthdays are celebrated with thanks giving to God not man for sustanance there is no more to it.
Only false Church like yours that seeks relevance attach thoughts or ideas of idol worship to birthday celebrations.

Why did Abraham throw a feast for Isaac turning 6months or there about when he was weaned?

Trying so had to claim what Jesus would have done and would not have done.

The bible is full of records of great men of God that there ages where recorded does that mean they are pagans?

In your next birthday cause God and commit suicide since there is nothing natural about been older.

You are guys are real jokers.

Where all the feasts birthdays or you are trying to impose your lie?

John 16:21
Verse Concepts
Whenever a woman is in labor she has pain, because her hour has come; but when she gives birth to the child, she no longer remembers the anguish because of the JOY that a child has been born into World.

That Joy does not end at birth, It is joy to become older and fulfill ones destiny.

Bros, God did NOT command it.
did God accept the pagan practice they coined as "festival to Jehovah"?
"To OBEY is better is better ",1 Samuel 15:22
To OBEY Jesus @ Matthew 28:20 , is more important to Jehovah than your yearly repeat of a pagan practice

blueAgent:
It obvious you cannot comprehend bible.

If you had sense you will know that the bible verse here is talking about how old or ones birthday.
Although not an alright or clear instruction on birthday.
We can see that Solomon the writer intended to say that a man should have joy and happiness as he counts his years.

"Days of his years"

blueAgent:
They are not conflicting only in your biased head that it is conflicting.
In Galatians 4:8 Paul is referring to those practices that pagans do to honour their gods, which covers a lot of things, even in mourning their dead there are practices that pagans do that are not godly.
Are we supposed to stop mourning becos pagans do it .


Roman's 14:6 talks about one choosing a day as been special unto God,, paul says one has the liberty to do that as long as it is with regards and honour to God.

Which day is more special to a man than his day of birth.
It was a thing of joy to be born and remains for how long the person lives.

No where do this two Bible verses contradict themselves, Paul is clear on what he says.

Only you and your people twist God's word to mean something it does not mean.

Abraham celebrated Isaac be weaned, I guess he committed and offence?

See this clown DECEIVING himself
In Galatians 4:8 & Acts 12:21-22, Paul is referring to those practices that pagans do to honour their gods, King Pharaoh and king Herod.

Acts 12:21-22 & Galatians 4:8-11, Bros when will you begin to see clearly and reason well?

bobestman:
You should just say you want me to explain the above questions in better way for people to understand.
If you want me to, might do it in brief. But the truth is that many of you will never understand untill it's revealed in the light.

MaxInDHouse:
Sorry Sir/Ma, it wasn't Herod's daughter who celebrated her birthday rather it was Herod himself!

Janosky:
See this clown DECEIVING himself
In Galatians 4:8 & Acts 12:21-22, Paul is referring to those practices that pagans do to honour their gods, King Pharaoh and king Herod.

Acts 12:21-22 & Galatians 4:8-11, Bros when will you begin to see clearly and reason well?

Janosky:
See this clown speaking with both sides of his mouth
He says Ecclesiastes 6:3 not a clear instruction on birthday.

Any other things you added is your personal opinion, not inspired in the holy Scriptures.

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TmChris:
ohh okay.
thank you very much.

Janosky:
The practice is strictly pagan, that is why Genesis 40:20 & Matthew 14:6 is in your Bible.
Bros, God did NOT command it.
did God accept the pagan practice they coined as "festival to Jehovah"?
"To OBEY is better is better ",1 Samuel 15:22
To OBEY Jesus @ Matthew 28:20 , is more important to Jehovah than your yearly repeat of a pagan practice

King Uzziah enter temple to praise Jehovah with sacrifice, na Jehovah God send am ?
Go & find out the consequences


Upon all your noise, you no fit name the great men of God wey celebrate birthdays.

Bros, why did Abraham not throw a feast when Isaac clocked 1year & repeat it every year?

Is weaning,an annual birthday celebration ?
Clown

Janosky:
The practice is strictly pagan, that is why Genesis 40:20 & Matthew 14:6 is in your Bible.
Bros, God did NOT command it.
did God accept the pagan practice they coined as "festival to Jehovah"?
"To OBEY is better is better ",1 Samuel 15:22
To OBEY Jesus @ Matthew 28:20 , is more important to Jehovah than your yearly repeat of a pagan practice

King Uzziah enter temple to praise Jehovah with sacrifice, na Jehovah God send am ?
Go & find out the consequences


Upon all your noise, you no fit name the great men of God wey celebrate birthdays.

Bros, why did Abraham not throw a feast when Isaac clocked 1year & repeat it every year?

Is weaning,an annual birthday celebration ?
Clown

Janosky:
Donald Redford, A Study of the Biblical Story of Joseph (Genesis: 37-50), pp. 205-206, writes: “The birthday of a king, like the birthday of a god,
.....Especially in the ancient world, in which the king becomes a divine being, the enthronement is a form of “divine birth”
*****************************
* [b]King Pharaoh is a pagan god worshipped in Egypt.
Paul is referring to days, months, and seasons observed in honour of pagan god, Pharaoh.
His birthdays celebrations is a form of divine birth"

blueAgent is a deluded clown DECEIVING himself.
Bros , you just dey showcase your Mumu

Janosky:
Bros, continue DECEIVING yourself making FALSE claims.
Na Matthew 28:20 dey cause you sifia pains

blueAgent:
Job's children were mentioned here an you deceptively twisted to mean another thing.

MaxInDHouse:
Moses was the inspired of both Genesis and Job so he couldn't have called one event Birthday and change the name of the other event to something else.
So if Moses didn't record what Job's children did as Birthday then it's not Birthday!

MaxInDHouse:
Guy you know nothing about the TRUTH!
Whoever tells you that Bob Marley, Peter Touch, Ras Kimono or Majek Fashek is the Messiah simply because they carry dreadlocks up and down has fooled you completely.

The questions i asked are the things you can work on to reach the heart of your listeners not some stupid racist concept.
If salvation is to be revealed without a preaching and teaching program then there is no need coming to say nonsense on social media, each one of us should just fold our harms and keep waiting until it would be revealed to one and all.
Daniel's prophecy about the endtime knowledge of sacred secrets began it's fulfilment in the first century when God poured out His Holy Spirit on the first set of Christians for them to start preaching and teaching the sacred secrets to whoever is willing to listen.
So if you've got nothing tangible to say than your stupid racist concept please shift or keep shut!

blueAgent:
Really ?
The bible translators called it birthday.

bobestman:
You don't understand a concept and you are twisting it into another thing. The true Hebrews of old don't comb their hair they allow it to grow into locks like that of Samson. It was part of their traditions and scriptural too. Those who took vow and are Nazarites don't comb. The true Hebrews who practice such are called Nazarites, see numbers 6 for an example. They are people who have taken a vow to serve the Creator. The one you call Christ is of same group. Another truth is that Oyibos hair can't grow into locks.

I really didn't put things together in a way you guys will understand cos I know you will never understand and just want to argue. I didn't add the verses to prove my point too. The time will come when you guys will understand. I won't do that again

Lol you lie. The vision of Daniel is to be revealed in the end. When knowledge will increase with a device that run to and fro(that's internet thru Wifi signs) Daniel 12:4 is talking about a time when people will move with a handheld device that will help in increasing knowledge. So it is now cos in that era they know nothing about what we have today. They are still in the dark. What happened in that era is the setting up of the abomination that led to them giving you the false messiah. What the Messiah and the disciples did were twisted and that led to the Apostacy I am talking about. If you think I am lying, compare the time giving to Daniel to this time we are now, that is if you can understand, you will see that the time is almost up. The spirit was not poured to any Christians but Hebrews. They lied to you that they were Christians. Rome created your religion and the lies will end soon. I can't help you bro. Believe what you like bro. All these will be revealed in the light one day

MaxInDHouse:
Walahi talahi you have fish brains!


What has all these got to do with requirements for salvation?

bobestman:
Fear your creator, obey him, don't lie, steal....repent from all sins, don't follow any religion cos they are all rooted in lies, study the word, pray, give to the poor etc and you won't go wrong. These are the teachings of the true messiah that was twisted. He didn't create any religion or teach people to create any like your proliferated churches. He taught righteous living.

MaxInDHouse:
You have fish brains my friend!

Answer those questions or keep shut. Even my uncle who worships Ogún believe all those things you said so what is the difference between the idol worshiper and worshipers of the true God?

Has the Messiah come?
What was his name?
What did he teach?
How can we IDENTIFY his true followers today?
What achievements will prove they're for real?

Hmmm you that have a good brain and with all acclaimed knowledge don't know that an idol worshiper don't know the Creator. He is against the commandment of the Sovereign Father. Well let me just tell you in brief to stop you from disturbing me

The Messiah is in our midst but many don't know. In all his incarnation he must be born first of a woman. Then when the time for his manifestation comes, He will be revealed to the world. The book also said the world awaits the manifestation of the sons of God. The sons of God are already in world waiting for their manifestation. They will manifest with the Messiah and they are the ones to teach the world the truth and save you all from the lies this endtime. Mind you they are not in your churches cos they are all in deep error. That's the little I can tell you

His name was written on the tree he was lynched. "INRI" .You can decode that yourself. I won't tell you. There are names He called himself. They are all African tongues but I won't tell you. He called himself the Word of God, the light of God to the world, Man from above which they gave you as Emmanuel but He never told anyone that He is Jesus. Those names have meaning in all African tongues before thieves twisted them to you. But the name Jesus have no meaning in all your tongues. The little I can tell you.

His teachings are all about living right which is righteousness. He taught no one about religion but fearing the Creator, obeying his commands, humility, giving etc you can read it up. All about righteousness and not creating any religion. He taught ppl to pray and worship in their homes not to shout and disturb ppl with prayers. Your pastors will even add loudspeaker and tell you to shout loud as if the creator can't hear. You are praying to a spirit who is everywhere. You disturb the peace of mind of your neighbors with your prayers knowing not everyone follow your religion. If they lock your churches up for noise pollution, you will call them devils not knowing you are the cause of it all. Is that what the Messiah taught? Or you will want to twist it and call it a lie. That's wickedness.

You can't identity his true followers now untill their is a reconciliation and their can't be any reconciliation untill the Messiah is revealed and comes to his TEMPLE. See Malachi 3:1-4 when he will return to his TEMPLE and Isaiah 11:11-13 for the setting up of the ensign or banner that will lead to the gathering of the children which is the reconciliation. When the thieves set up the abomination of desolation and try to establish the covenant given to Daniel, everything became Apostate to continue this endtime. Right from that time, just do good, live right as above and you are good. Till this time when the truth will be revealed to the world. Do you know that the Messiah came back to earth to give John the book of Revelation. Many churches were established then. He warned many of them but they all didn't pass the text. Meaning they all were out and you didn't hear about them again after chapter 5. They were replaced by tribes, people , nations etc He is called the King of Kings not pope of popes or pastors of pastors. Kings are for tribes or traditional rulers. The true ones among them will recognize him and give him that title - King of Kings. Hope you know the continent that are ruled by the kings. Your churches will all have gone into the state of oblivion before then

That's all I can tell you. These are not just ramblings- they are revelations. These things are not to be revealed now. If you know them now good. Research it further with scriptures if you doubt. They are words from those who have come in contact with the Truth. We all are to wait for those who will manifest to teach these hidden truth and the true message of salvation to the world. Follow your mind man. At least I have clarified things. If you still doubt that is your cup of tea.

MaxInDHouse:
You have fish brains my friend!

Answer those questions or keep shut. Even my uncle who worships Ogún believe all those things you said so what is the difference between the idol worshiper and worshipers of the true God?

Has the Messiah come?
What was his name?
What did he teach?
How can we IDENTIFY his true followers today?
What achievements will prove they're for real?

blueAgent:
Really ?
The bible translators called it birthday.

blueAgent:
Job's children were mentioned here an you deceptively twisted to mean another thing.

Bros, your claim is FALSE.
The Jews say blueAgent is DECEIVING himself & LYING.

Janosky:
Bros, your claim is FALSE.
The Jews say blueAgent is DECEIVING himself & LYING..


Source:balashon.com (Hebrew Language Detective)
Sunday, May 17, 2020
yom huledet
The Hebrew phrase for "birthday" is יום הולדת yom huledet. While it's certainly a familiar phrase, it's actually kind of a strange construct. Huledet is the hufal (passive and causative) form. Why not use the simpler יום הלידה yom haleida - "day of birth"?

The phrase yom huledet appears three times in the Bible. The first is in Bereshit 40:20 after Yosef deciphered the dreams of his servants (the other two are in Yechezkel 16:4,5). Here is how the phrase appears in Bereshit:

וַיְהִי בַּיּוֹם הַשְּׁלִישִׁי יוֹם הֻלֶּדֶת אֶת־פַּרְעֹה וַיַּעַשׂ מִשְׁתֶּה לְכָל־עֲבָדָיו וַיִּשָּׂא אֶת־רֹאשׁ שַׂר הַמַּשְׁקִים וְאֶת־רֹאשׁ שַׂר הָאֹפִים בְּתוֹךְ עֲבָדָיו׃

On the third day—his birthday [yom huledet]—Pharaoh made a banquet for all his officials, and he singled out his chief cupbearer and his chief baker from among his officials.

edoairways:
blueAgent is it ok to celebrate the birth of Christ ( assuming it doesn't have pagan origin)? If yes then you can celebrate birthday but if no you can't.

bobestman:
You don't understand a concept and you are twisting it into another thing. The true Hebrews of old don't comb their hair they allow it to grow into locks like that of Samson. It was part of their traditions and scriptural too. Those who took vow and are Nazarites don't comb. The true Hebrews who practice such are called Nazarites, see numbers 6 for an example. They are people who have taken a vow to serve the Creator. The one you call Christ is of same group. Another truth is that Oyibos hair can't grow into locks.

I really didn't put things together in a way you guys will understand cos I know you will never understand and just want to argue. I didn't add the verses to prove my point too. The time will come when you guys will understand. I won't do that again

Lol you lie. The vision of Daniel is to be revealed in the end. When knowledge will increase with a device that run to and fro(that's internet thru Wifi signs) Daniel 12:4 is talking about a time when people will move with a handheld device that will help in increasing knowledge. So it is now cos in that era they know nothing about what we have today. They are still in the dark. What happened in that era is the setting up of the abomination that led to them giving you the false messiah. What the Messiah and the disciples did were twisted and that led to the Apostacy I am talking about. If you think I am lying, compare the time giving to Daniel to this time we are now, that is if you can understand, you will see that the time is almost up. The spirit was not poured to any Christians but Hebrews. They lied to you that they were Christians. Rome created your religion and the lies will end soon. I can't help you bro. Believe what you like bro. All these will be revealed in the light one day

blueAgent:
Is it right for us to fast since pagans fast to their gods?

Do you know the number of things pagans do that Christians do that is not Sin?

blueAgent:
In Galatians 4:8 Paul is referring to those practices that pagans do to honour their gods
.

blueAgent:
Its obvious you have no sense.

If celeberate my birthday that makes me to become a god?

If that the case then Christains should not mourn becos pagans Mourn there people as gods.
Your church is a failure.

blueAgent:
See who is quoting Matthew 28:20.

As your false freemason founder taught you guys lies and hypocrisy