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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by QuietMynd: 3:52pm On Apr 23, 2021
Sizzorkay:
Ecowas doesn't need the blessing of the UNSC to deploy troops within West Africa for peacekeeping missions. They can seek it if they need support or if the UN is deploying troops.
Now I'm open to be corrected by people who know better. I'm simply stating my opinion
Countries have deployed troops into neighboring countriesmany times without some darn UNSC authorization
. And once again, read comments properly before jumping into it. did i ever mentioned anything about the AU deploying troops? why even bother with this guy.
AU is to support the actions ecowas would take. and if Ecowas states including chad agrees, france can't stop it. its all diplomacy. you think france would go to war with West Africa over chad? it's all about optics, and it won't be good for france. Especially if the idea of ecowas being there is to help stabilize chad. Why would france say no to that.
Did Saudi Arabia got authorization from UNSC before going into Yemen? not sure. and can't find info that they did

Point of correction
Chad Is nt an ecowas member.
France is even the one who told derby nd Paul biya to pull out from the organization.
So, there is no power Nigeria can pull via ecowas on them.
Dont u see France have done its home work nd forsee the future politics that can be played in the region.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 3:52pm On Apr 23, 2021
Sizzorkay:
There you go. it's all about the messaging. lobby chinese vocal support, Russia etc, there's literally nothing france can do to overide the entire wishes of a continent and support from some other big countries. messaging matters, and showing the capacity to get the job done is also critical such scenario. France isn't some all powerful entity. There are limits, and the world still have rules that Govern it


Chad is an extremely poor country with very little bargaining Chip, Chad has nothing to offer the Chinese or Russians, life is not a movie.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 3:54pm On Apr 23, 2021
Sizzorkay:
You are now saying Chad is a colony and not independent? okay.
comparing crimea/Russia or US /Alaska. these are different scenarios. Alaska was purchased, the crimea and the soviets have their own history.
I didnt know chad share border with france, or darn, how did African countries managed to gain their independence fro. the all powerful West.
don't fall for mirage and take control of your own destiny. until we do that, we will keep kneeling in front of these fools. There are countries and leaders that went against the west and survived it. its nothing new. The consequences might be dire, but atleast they aren't beholden to any foreign power.
you belittle the strength of the continent because you have no faith in it, france is movable, so chad is poor, and that's an excuse for subjugation? its their land, their independent territory. Not France's. sentiments or not.
I don't know much about military stuff, but politics and optics, i know quite a bit. Compare Assad to Ghadafi, one was calm and collected, the other was insane, to the point of threatening to level tripoli than to see it fall. That was a critical error he made in his messaging and the West used that against him. oh he's about to kill everyone in tripoli, he has to be stopped. Gotta control your messaging and temperament


16 francophone countries dont have total independence, Chad inclusive, are you not aware? perhaps your new knowledge we avail you the opportunity to appreciate our heroes past.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by iboboyswag(m): 4:13pm On Apr 23, 2021
jpphilips:


16 francophone countries dont have total independence, Chad inclusive, are you not aware? perhaps your new knowledge we avail you the opportunity to appreciate our heroes past.

True and I believe it is time Africa as a bloc starts having this conversation.

Mind you, it is this subjugation that have kept much of francophone Africa in the bottom belt of all developmental indexes inspite of their massive wealth.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 5:04pm On Apr 23, 2021
Because most have been brainwashed to accept whatever oyinbo says and too scared to challenge them. Talk of lacking backbone.
As a block, the AU is diplomatically important, they just gotta learn to push back a bit. you'd be surprised what you could get away with.
Then again. when you are seen as beggers by some, hard to wanna piss off your benefactors.
An entire continent cant take a position against a country like france when the subject matter is an African one. And these are supposed to be future leaders. with this kind of mentality.
Even if we all starve, so be it. But some black ppl love being on their knees and take orders from foreigners.
All good ooo. good luck to chad.


iboboyswag:


True and I believe it is time Africa as a bloc starts having this conversation.

Mind you, it is this subjugation that have kept much of francophone Africa in the bottom belt of all developmental indexes inspite of their massive wealth.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 5:05pm On Apr 23, 2021
And i never said chad was part of ecowas.. point was why can't our regional block help chad if they request it. regardless of what france says.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 5:11pm On Apr 23, 2021
Emmanuel Macron touched down in Chad on Friday to pay his respects to one of France’s indispensable African strongman, a warrior king allegedly killed on the battlefield in a murder mystery troubling Western leaders.

President Idriss Déby Itno was killed suddenly as he visited his troops facing down a heavily armed Russian-trained rebel force that had made a blitzkrieg dash across the Sahara to capture Chad’s capital, N’djamena.

The facts around the dictator’s death are murky and conspiracy theories abound. The official Chadian version of events says Mr Déby was a martyr; the Field Marshall was shot in the chest after shouting at his men to drive him to the frontline to face down a column of terrorists.

However, analysts say it is still unclear how the central African nation’s dictator of 30-years died.

But as the French President sat in N’djamena’s national square on Friday listening to the 21 cannon salute, one thing is clear: a French foreign policy blunder.

The Chadian rebels — the Front for Change and Concord in Chad (FACT) — who swept out of Libya some two weeks ago in about 400 to 450 vehicles had fought for years as mercenaries in Libya’s Civil War under General Khalifa Haftar.

Over the last few years, Russia, the United Arab Emirates and France have backed Mr Haftar to the hilt, as they vie for influence in the oil-rich lawless nation.
hey vie for influence in the oil-rich lawless nation.
France sent special forces into Benghazi to help Mr Haftar in 2016, provided aerial support and has thrown its diplomatic weight behind the warlord. This power play may have backfired spectacularly.
“It’s a monumental screw up for France. Paris put everything on Déby. They didn’t have a plan B. Then they backed a faction in the Libya Civil War, and it has blown back on them and taken out their main ally in Africa,” said Nathaniel Powell, author of ‘France’s Wars in Chad: Military Intervention and Decolonisation in Africa.’

France never really left Chad after it granted independence to its former colony in 1960. Instead, French troops have always tried to maintain a presence in the vast desert nation six times the size of the UK, using it as a base for operations across the Francophone region.

Paris has coddled successive Chadian autocrats and consistently turned a blind eye to rampant tribal nepotism, corruption and human rights abuses which have kept the country’s 15m people some of the poorest on earth.

Since the 1990s, Mr Déby has been France’s go-to dictator in Africa, a client autocrat with a well equipped, professional army to balance Paris’ regional security strategy on.

France’s 5,000-solider Operation Barkhane, which fights jihadis across the vast arid expanse of the Sahel running underneath the Sahara, is based out of the Chadian capital.

Mr Déby’s troops have also played a crucial role in fighting powerful jihadi groups allied to Al Qaeda and Islamic State across the Sahel and the Lake Chad Basin.

France has intervened multiple times to protect Mr Déby in the past from coup attempts to rebellions. In 2019, French airstrikes stopped another column of rebels on their way to oust the dictator.

But this time, the French did not act to save Mr Déby. Upcoming French presidential election may have played on the mind.

FACT was formed in Libya in 2016 by Chadian officers opposed to Mr Déby’s rubber stamp democratic system and his use of the country’s oil money.

In February, a United Nations report said that FACT fighters were based at a major military airbase in Al Jufra, in central Libya.

The airfield was also a base for Russian mercenaries from the Kremlin-linked Wagner group and a key site where the UAE flew weapons in en masse to supply Mr Haftar’s forces.

While they worked for Mr Haftar, the FACT rebels received training from the Russians and large amounts of UAE weapons. However, there is no evidence to suggest that either power played a role in the rebel advance south.

Jalel Harchaoui, Senior Fellow at the Global Initiative Against Transnational Organised Crime, says much of the responsibility for Mr Déby’s death lies with his generals.

“For several or eight days, the whole world knew FACT were driving towards N’djamena. But Déby’s generals did not fully mobilise Chad’s land forces. There was an ambivalence and a lack of cohesiveness around the president. Regardless of who physically killed him, his generals share a great deal of responsibility for his death,” says Mr Harchaoui.

After Mr Déby’s death, his 37-year-old four-star general, Mahamat Idriss Déby Itno, has now taken control of the country at the head of a military council.

The military council claims that elections will take place after 18 months — few have any doubt who would win.

Although this power grab is in explicit contradiction of the Chadian constitution, which says that the head of the national assembly should run the country in the event of the President’s death, it is hardly surprising.

Despite massive opposition from Chadian civil society groups, the Élysée Palace has doubled down on Mahamat Déby.

“We will not let anybody put into question or threaten today or tomorrow Chad’s stability and territorial integrity,” Mr Macron said on Friday at the funeral.

Critics say the move reveals France’s double standards on democracy in its dealings with its former African colonies. When a military junta ousted Mali’s president in 2020, France demanded a "return to constitutional order".

“The whole argument the French always made throughout the last few years about why they supported Haftar was that he could stabilise the region,” said Wolfram Lacher, a Libya researcher at the German Institute for International and Security Affairs.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 5:18pm On Apr 23, 2021
I said it before. They only care about democracy when they don't have their fingers in the cake. They do in Chad, and democracy becomes an afterthought. Interest matters most

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Horus(m): 5:34pm On Apr 23, 2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqJPSIGcx44

Nigerian Army Parashuters In Action

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JOSCOFELIX: 6:20pm On Apr 23, 2021
THEY WAS HEAVY ATTACK IN GEDIAM BUT WAS REPELLED HEAVILY DETAIL LATER
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by NewDelhi(m): 6:22pm On Apr 23, 2021
Horus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqJPSIGcx44

Nigerian Army Parashuters In Action
The guy said one of the most elite special forces in the world lol.. lwkmd.

It's a pity paratrooping is such a big feat for the Nigerian army.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 6:27pm On Apr 23, 2021
Visit of a high powered Portuguese Navy delegation to NNS LANA berthed at the Port of Lisbon Portugal

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 6:28pm On Apr 23, 2021
More.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 6:39pm On Apr 23, 2021
This was debated a while back i think. Buratia grin



Horus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqJPSIGcx44

Nigerian Army Parashuters In Action

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 6:43pm On Apr 23, 2021
And who told you that? was there an official statement to back this up? or you are simply taking one person's opnion as representation of the Nigerian military's stance.



NewDelhi:

The guy said one of the most elite special forces in the world lol.. lwkmd.

It's a pity paratrooping is such a big feat for the Nigerian army.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 7:00pm On Apr 23, 2021
bidexiii:
Visit of a high powered Portuguese Navy delegation to NNS LANA berthed at the Port of Lisbon Portugal
When you are doing the right things it brings you the respect you deserve. NNS Lana is a beauty.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by NewDelhi(m): 7:04pm On Apr 23, 2021
Sizzorkay:
And who told you that? was there an official statement to back this up? or you are simply taking one person's opnion as representation of the Nigerian military's stance.



Didn't you watch the video Mr Man?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 7:07pm On Apr 23, 2021
The question no one is asking is what was Marshall Idris Deby Itno doing in Abuja a little over a fortnight ago and then killed shortly after under murky circumstances depending on which version of events you believe. Whose interests?

Inset: Nigerian Army New VT-4 Main Battle Tank

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by timay(m): 7:10pm On Apr 23, 2021
IGpro1:
so in your mind, Nigeria that rejected Africom will now accept Common AU troops. seems you don't know your country.

Even though I no too like our military, but I still respect them for that singular action of rejecting AFRICOM till this day.

The military might not be getting a lot of things right, but at least they did not allow their greed to stop them from rejecting an American military base on our soil
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 7:12pm On Apr 23, 2021
Nope. I'm at work grin
which was why i asked.



NewDelhi:

Didn't you watch the video Mr Man?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 7:14pm On Apr 23, 2021
yeye conspiracies

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 7:16pm On Apr 23, 2021
Covert1:

When you are doing the right things it brings you the respect you deserve. NNS Lana is a beauty.

Yes man....!

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by NewDelhi(m): 7:28pm On Apr 23, 2021
Sizzorkay:
Nope. I'm at work grin
which was why i asked.



Okay continue your night shift gateman work. Be careful of robbers and hoodlums.. I hear they are very ruthless in that your area .

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 7:31pm On Apr 23, 2021
Anyone notice Nigeria's current defense minister is a hands on approach serious minded official. Watching the trends I haven't seen in a while a defense minister quite like him in Nigeria's recent history. I mean this guy is on the ground leading from the front with the Service Chiefs. There's more I could add but suffice it to say the defense minister bid his time with the former Service Chiefs, had enough and recommended his team to the President got them approved and now working in synergy with the NSA. The winner here if things pan out according to plan is Nigeria but moreso the current National Security Adviser. He didn't exactly see eye to eye with the former Service Chiefs hampering efforts to win the war.

Inset: Nigerian Air Force 4+ generation JF-17 Thunder Multi-role Fighter Jet seen in flight

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 7:50pm On Apr 23, 2021
Another poignant question in the Chad controversy or conspiracies depending on which side of the divide you kowtow is why was President Buhari not present at Deby's Funeral in N'djamena. I like slam dunk intelligence though rare they don't come prepared on the table you sometimes find them hiding in plain sight.

"Someone may have gotten tired of someone"

Inset: Nigerian Navy Anticipated Landing Ship Tank. A major platform for power projection.

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 7:52pm On Apr 23, 2021
Nigeria beefs up border to avoid Chadian influx – defence minister

Nigeria has reinforced its border security to avoid a potential influx of Chadians following the death of Chad’s leader Idriss Deby, the defence minister said on Thursday.

Deby was killed on Monday in a battle against rebels who had invaded from the north, plunging the country into turmoil.

“When we heard of the death of the Chadian president…the government took action immediately. We beefed up security on our borders with Chad, not to allow the influx of Chadian refugees into Nigeria,” said Bashir Salihi Magashi, a retired army major general.


Only Nigerians from Chad would be allowed into the country, he told reporters in the capital Abuja.

Nigeria is trying to deal with its own problems.

It is battling with mass kidnapping and killings linked to a decade-long Islamist insurgency in the northern part of the country that has displaced thousands of people in recent years.

“We are on top of the situation and we believe that African countries and international organizations will soon come together to find solutions to the problem in Chad as expected of them.”

Deby’s son has taken over as president and the armed forces commander and dissolved the government and parliament as rebel forces threaten to march on the capital.
https://www.defenceweb.co.za/security/border-security/nigeria-beefs-up-border-to-avoid-chadian-influx-defence-minister/

Inset: Rugged Nigerian Army Combat Troops

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralFarouq: 7:52pm On Apr 23, 2021
NewDelhi:

Okay continue your night shift gateman work. Be careful of robbers and hoodlums.. I hear they are very ruthless in that your area .
Which area are u talking about, clueless folk
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JOSCOFELIX: 7:53pm On Apr 23, 2021
Covert1:
The question no one is asking is what was Marshall Idris Deby Itno doing in Abuja a little over a fortnight ago and then killed shortly after under murky circumstances depending on which version of events you believe. Whose interests?

Inset: Nigerian Army New VT-4 Main Battle Tank
the two francophone nation visit buhari in lass than 2-3 week interval and you think something is not wrong. the day Niger republic speak against france after in inauguration they was a coup attempt on him, and you think something is not wrong, the rebel that they say killed debby was a rebel France have sent and giving them assistance in libya and you say something is wrong. from my intel they is a new policy they brought by france which chad, niger and other country rejected(i will not go further) i pray they do not go after niger president

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 7:54pm On Apr 23, 2021
Covert1:
Another poignant question in the Chad controversy or conspiracies depending on which side of the divide you kowtow is why was President Buhari not present at Deby's Funeral in N'djamena. I like slam dunk intelligence though rare they don't come prepared on the table you sometimes find them hiding in plain sight.

"Someone may have gotten tired of someone"

Inset: Nigerian Navy Anticipated Landing Ship Tank. A major platform for power projection.


It’s too risky attending. Has Buhari visited any deep field location in Borno state?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JOSCOFELIX: 7:57pm On Apr 23, 2021
SamuelAnyawu:



It’s too risky attending. Has Buhari visited any deep field location in Borno state?
yes . but they is something fishy going on let us wait and see
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralFarouq: 7:58pm On Apr 23, 2021
SamuelAnyawu:



It’s too risky attending. Has Buhari visited any deep field location in Borno state?
Risky attending... He is going with Nigeria's best security outfits SBS AFSF DSs and drones and other support assets. Risky ke, he doesn't want to go or can't go.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 8:03pm On Apr 23, 2021
what upset you about my comment? gateman? haha. let's not go there boy. let's not. before i slap you with my wallet.
I asked a question.


NewDelhi:

Okay continue your night shift gateman work. Be careful of robbers and hoodlums.. I hear they are very ruthless in that your area .

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