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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 5:05pm On Apr 25, 2021
afrodoc:


Ashley Young and Valencia are no longer here. cheesy
cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 5:10pm On Apr 25, 2021
The way City press eh! You can barely get a breather...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 5:13pm On Apr 25, 2021
raumdeuter:


Yes its Bayerns 9th succesive title

Bayern is the richest team in the league and money is directly related to results. When you have teams who can match Bayerns finances you will see competition
There are no recognized competitors for a long time because they do not have Bayerns money
Other teams in the league have money problems which Bayern does not have

If you are wondering how Bayern got so rich, its also in that video


Right. Money begets money. The bigger your money is, the easier it will be to make more money. And money brings success.

1. The league is structured in a way that the rich keeps getting rich while the poor gets screwed. It doesn’t provide a level playing field for all teams. The revenue sharing formula rewards past league standing instead of starting afresh each season.

Bayern have been receiving the lion share of this revenue for quite some time. They’ve cemented their position. This is why they keeps getting richer and richer while other teams kent.

It’s not fair.

2. The 50+1 rule even makes it harder for any team to offer any serious competition to Bayern.

No team can get any financial support that will make them competitive. They always have to sell players to stay afloat- and strive to make it to the near top so that they can continue to get favorable revenue at least.

Will BvB not provide good competition for Bayern if they could hold on to Lewandowski, Himmels and co during that era?

3. Everyone knows Bayern poaches talents. They are just more brazen about it these days (first image) and teams are starting to complain.

Look at the best players in the BuLi for the last 15 years. (PoTy). The only player on that list who didn’t play for Bayern Munich and left their team to another BuLi team different from Bayern is Marco Reus. And that’s because of his injury woes. If Bayern wanted him they’d have gotten him.

They’re all either Bayern rejects or potential Bayern signings.

Bayern have already signed that outstanding RBL defender Upamecano. A direct rival, I must say.

Also, why does Bayern account for 80-99.99% of the top 10 most expensive BuLi to BuLi transfers?

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:15pm On Apr 25, 2021
KingAlabi:

Mou bought Fred and Sanchez.

Can I go on?

The same Fred Ole must play to win games?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 5:15pm On Apr 25, 2021
timay:


Anytime the board gets serious and wants on-field success, they will sack him.
For now no amount of wailing can remove Ole, so I'm not wasting my data for ranting

Unfortunately......
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 5:18pm On Apr 25, 2021
chidexxy007:
Double digits card for Maguire.

Think it's a 2 match suspension

Finally. Some good news
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Joezinho: 5:18pm On Apr 25, 2021
BikeMan:
Please mention one thing that Ole has done better than Lampard. I will give you 3 insane things Ole has done in return.

Alabimumu come and answer.

Watch how he descends into his coffin like Undertaker .. grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:19pm On Apr 25, 2021
chidexxy007:

This season?

If Yes, care to explain how?

Arteta - FA cup
Lampard - Final
Jose - Final
Wilder - Sheffield Promotion
Bilic - West Brom promotion

What has Ole achieved at United?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 5:24pm On Apr 25, 2021
Illimitable:


The cut off is 32 PL games.

He will have to bag 15 yellow cards between now and the end of the season to be suspended.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:26pm On Apr 25, 2021
I can’t believe Mourinho got Spurs to the final only to come and park the bus.

He cannot even give the fans some sort of entertainment in Wembley. He should know by now the world has moved on from negative football - he’s the only manager left in Europe that still uses this toxic strategy to win final games.


Oh wait!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 5:26pm On Apr 25, 2021
weedtaker:
mctomany is useless
Na only Pogba you no yab today and we know why.....
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 5:28pm On Apr 25, 2021
handelex:
It's like Bielsa is no longer stubborn/naive by going Gung hoo every game. He can now play compact and lump it forward cheesy.

Lesson well learnt.

He stopped being a purist since January or a month after. Leeds doesn’t play the touch and go football that they usually play anymore.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 5:28pm On Apr 25, 2021
Simple style taktiks no work today, still we muuve. AS Roma next, Yoruba League must return to Old Trafford this season....
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 5:30pm On Apr 25, 2021
afrodoc:


Ashley Young and Valencia are no longer here. cheesy

grin

Elamps really loved Valencia grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nani667: 5:32pm On Apr 25, 2021
#OleOUT

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:41pm On Apr 25, 2021
Leyqute:



Right. Money begets money. The bigger your money is, the easier it will be to make more money. And money brings success.

1. The league is structured in a way that the rich keeps getting rich while the poor gets screwed. It doesn’t provide a level playing field for all teams. The revenue sharing formula rewards past league standing instead of starting afresh each season.

Bayern have been receiving the lion share of this revenue for quite some time. They’ve cemented their position. This is why they keeps getting richer and richer while other teams kent.

It’s not fair.


Bayern is richer FACT, Money beget more money FACT

The League sharing formular rewards results, just like every other league, There is nowhere the team that finished last should get more than the team that finished ahead of them. Bayern success have made them able to get more sponsors FACT
So what is the solution? Is it for Bayern to deliberately give money away to other clubs? Or for the Bundesliga to reward teams who finish lower just to punish the winners?


2. The 50+1 rule even makes it harder for any team to offer any serious competition to Bayern.

No team can get any financial support that will make them competitive. They always have to sell players to stay afloat- and strive to make it to the near top so that they can continue to get favorable revenue at least.

Will BvB not provide good competition for Bayern if they could hold on to Lewandowski, Himmels and co during that era?

In the whole of Europe only Germany has the 50+ 1 rule, So in the whole of Europe, Can you mention 5 clubs that have benefitted from having sugardaddies?
I know of 3 which are Chelsea City and PSG. 2 of them are state sponsored to launder the image of countries and the other is Chelsea from Roman with shady Russian Oligarrch Money. If you know more let me know. Any investor is looking to make profit from their business venture and as a Man Utd fan I dont need to tell you there is a difference between a Glazer sugardaddy(who is looking to make profit) vs a Nasser sugardaddy who is looking to launder the image of a whole country

Realistically the only sugar daddy that can spend enough to upstage Bayern long term is one that does not care about profits not a Glazer or FSG type but a Mansoor or Nasser type which only 3 exist in the whole of Europe.

Besides these 3, Europe is littered with tales of woes about how Sugardaddies wreck their clubs. Bordeaux a recent French champion reported this week that its going into administration because its American sugardaddy pulled out suddenly. Similar thing happened to Portmouth and Malaga which wrecked those teams

Do you seriously believe that if Bayern didnt sign Lewandoski, he will be at Dortmund today? Bayern didnt sign Aubamenyang, Kagawa Sahin, Mikitaryan, Pulisic, Gundogan, Dembele etc none of them is at Dortmund now, Sancho will soon join them

3. Everyone knows Bayern poaches talents. They are just more brazen about it these days (first image) and teams are starting to complain.

Look at the best players in the BuLi for the last 15 years. (PoTy). The only player on that list who didn’t play for Bayern Munich and left their team to another BuLi team different from Bayern is Marco Reus. And that’s because of his injury woes. If Bayern wanted him they’d have gotten him.

They’re all either Bayern rejects or potential Bayern signings.

Bayern have already signed that outstanding RBL defender Upamecano. A direct rival, I must say.

Also, why does Bayern account for 80-99.99% of the top 10 most expensive BuLi to BuLi transfers?
So which team does not poach talent? The Hoffenheim guy you quoted will he tell us all his team are from their academy? Is he not poaching from somewhere?

Augsburg take from Division 2, Hoffenheim take from Augsburg, Mochengladbach take from Hoffenheim, Dortmund take from Mochengladbach yet they complain that someone is poaching

So where is Bayern expected to get their players from? Maternity wards? The last player Bayern signed from Dortmund was in 2016 since then Dortmund have sold many of their top players elsewhere, yet they will complain that its Bayern causing their problem

Basically, you want other teams to be able to sign top players from Bundesliga but Bayern not to. Where does that happen?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 5:41pm On Apr 25, 2021
Leyqute:


grin

Elamps really loved Valencia grin
Pace and Pawa
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:48pm On Apr 25, 2021
Ole clearly expected Bielsa to set Leeds up similarly to the first game, whilst Bielsa did anything but.

Leeds played for a point and set up a low block. This meant Dan James was pretty much useless and whilst McTominay and Fred were excellent at breaking up play, they don't offer enough creativity to unlock a packed defence.

Think it's safe to say that Cavani and Pogba should've been on sooner, but then you risk Leeds reverting to their usual style.

All in all, not a bad result, but obviously not a great one. This team beat City and drew with Liverpool, and have played far less games this season than us. Top 4 is all but wrapped up so a few draws at the end of the season whilst we focus on getting some actual silverware is far from the end of the world.


Copied.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:48pm On Apr 25, 2021
raumdeuter:

So which team does not poach talent? The Hoffenheim guy you quoted will he tell us all his team are from their academy? Is he not poaching from somewhere?

Augsburg take from Division 2, Hoffenheim take from Augsburg, Mochengladbach take from Hoffenheim, Dortmund take from Mochengladbach yet they complain that someone is poaching

So where is Bayern expected to get their players from? The last player Bayern signed from Dortmund was in 2016 since then Dortmund have sold many of their top players elsewhere, yet they will complain that its Bayern causing their problem

Your pretense that you don’t understand the context in his post is laughable.

The issue here isn’t ONLY poaching but that you poach from the only team that has any chance at all to win the league.

In your other example, you mentioned RVP. Were Arsenal in any title race when Man Utd got RVP? When the two teams were neck and neck like Bayern/Dortmund are today, did they do any business?

How come Wenger didn’t sell Henry to Man Utd in early 2000? How come SAF didn’t sell Scholes to Arsenal in 2002? Bayern Munich continue to raid Dortmund without morals that they are killing off the competition and your response is a long winded false equivalencies.

Give your head a wobble.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 5:53pm On Apr 25, 2021
handelex:
Ole clearly expected Bielsa to set Leeds up similarly to the first game, whilst Bielsa did anything but.

Leeds played for a point and set up a low block. This meant Dan James was pretty much useless and whilst McTominay and Fred were excellent at breaking up play, they don't offer enough creativity to unlock a packed defence.

Think it's safe to say that Cavani and Pogba should've been on sooner, but then you risk Leeds reverting to their usual style.

All in all, not a bad result, but obviously not a great one. This team beat City and drew with Liverpool, and have played far less games this season than us. Top 4 is all but wrapped up so a few draws at the end of the season whilst we focus on getting some actual silverware is far from the end of the world.


Copied.
Faulted Ole for the late sub and immediately sought to excuse him using a silly excuse...Obviously from an Ole fan. On Twitter, a lot of folks are angry Ole left Dan James on for so long.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:54pm On Apr 25, 2021
KingAlabi:


Na, because of the first leg.
Biesla is not that kind of coach
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:58pm On Apr 25, 2021
Illimitable:


Your pretense that you don’t understand the context in his post is laughable.

The issue here isn’t ONLY poaching but that you poach from the only team that has any chance at all to win the league.

In your other example, you mentioned RVP. Were Arsenal in any title race when Man Utd got RVP? When the two teams were neck and neck like Bayern/Dortmund are today, did they do any business?

How come Wenger didn’t sell Henry to Man Utd in early 2000? How come SAF didn’t sell Scholes to Arsenal in 2002? Bayern Munich continue to raid Dortmund without morals that they are killing off the competition and your response is a long winded false equivalencies.

Give your head a wobble.

He brought a quote from Hoffenheim. When was Hoffenheim a rival to Bayern for anything?

The last player Bayern bought from Dortmund was Hummels in 2016 5yrs ago. Since then they have lost Dembele, Aubameyang Pulisic Mikitaryan etc to clubs not named Bayern

Maybe if your team Man Utd did not poach Kagawa, Mikitaryan from Dortmund they will be in a better position to compete, but you dont really care about Dortmund or competition in the Bundesliga when you are buying from them do you?

Man Utd bought RVP from Arsenal the season Arsenal finished directly below Man Utd

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:04pm On Apr 25, 2021
raumdeuter:


He brought a quote from Hoffenheim. When was Hoffenheim a rival to Bayern for anything?

The last player Bayern bought from Dortmund was Hummels in 2016 5yrs ago. Since then they have lost Dembele, Aubameyang Pulisic Mikitaryan etc to clubs not named Bayern

Man Utd bought RVP from Arsenal the season Arsenal finished directly below Man Utd

Arsenal weren’t title contenders. It doesn’t matter where they finished, they were 19 massive points below United in 11/12. They hadn’t been in a title race in the previous 8 seasons.


raumdeuter:

Maybe if your team Man Utd did not poach Kagawa, Mikitaryan from Dortmund they will be in a better position to compete, but you dont really care about Dortmund or competition in the Bundesliga when you are buying from them do you?

Dortmund and United don’t compete in the same league. Selling their players to United does not give United any advantage over them to win the Bundesliga.

You are just grasping at straw here comparing United to Bayern. Any club with morals will desist from buying Dortmund players to encourage some stiff competition. What Bayern are doing in Germany is what Dangote is doing in Nigeria.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:08pm On Apr 25, 2021
chidexxy007:

Lol, United fans react to everything.

My only issues were the timing of the subs.
Na the first leg set the tempo I guess that's why the reaction.
That some people are still hoping we can win the league is not helping at all
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 6:09pm On Apr 25, 2021
This Foden doesn't play like he's an Englishman at all...The boy is just too good.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:10pm On Apr 25, 2021
Laporte scores....

Justice for Jose.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 6:10pm On Apr 25, 2021
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:11pm On Apr 25, 2021
patrickmuf:
The way City press eh! You can barely get a breather...
I wonder what Pep feeds his players. They keep this up every match

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:12pm On Apr 25, 2021
Illimitable:


Arsenal weren’t title contenders. It doesn’t matter where they finished, they were 19 massive points below United in 11/12. They hadn’t been in a title race in the previous 8 seasons.




Dortmund and United don’t compete in the same league. Selling their players to United does not give United any advantage over them to win the Bundesliga.

You are just grasping at straw here comparing United to Bayern. Any club with morals will desist from buying Dortmund players to encourage some stiff competition. What Bayern are doing in Germany is what Dangote is doing in Nigeria.

How many points behind Bayern did Dortmund finish before buying Lewandowski and Gotze

We don't care about morals. If you care about morals you won't be supporting a club who bought RVP you will be supporting MFM FC in Nigerian league

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BikeMan: 6:12pm On Apr 25, 2021
Joezinho:


Alabimumu come and answer.

Watch how he descends into his coffin like Undertaker .. grin
As expected. The guy na "Up Manyoo" fan. He noh dey watch ball, na to follow bandwagon

KingAlabi:
k

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:14pm On Apr 25, 2021
raumdeuter:


How many points behind Bayern did Dortmund finish before buying Lewandowski and Gotze

We don't care about morals. If you care about morals you won't be supporting a club who bought RVP you will be supporting MFM FC in Nigerian league

Just accept it’s a shit league. wink
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 6:16pm On Apr 25, 2021
Manchester City vs Cannon fodder.

Hope PSG do the needful on Wednesday, at least Poch will set out for revenge seeing as they beat his former team in the final ?

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