Janosky:


Na your fellow crew member opened this thread.
Therefore, your claim is DUBIOUS.

Janosky:


*1
Romans 9:14-15 "Is God unjust? He says to Moses: " I will have mercy/compassion on whom I will have mercy/compassion"
This matter in the holy Scriptures that you refused to understand will forever elude you.
1 Corinthians10:10 & Jude 1:16, your crew WAILERS & Murmurers & Grumbling have no business with Romans 9:14-15.

*2
Bros, your claim is DUBIOUS & FALSE.
Na your fellow crew member opened this thread and insulted JWs for showing your crew the Scriptural truth..
You know Christmas birthdays is paganism, have you stopped the practice?

Romans 6:7 speaks for the dead.

Achorladey & his crew- WAILERS & MURMURERS continue DECEIVING yourselves.

..

achorladey:



You have proven that "his day" have different meaning in the holy Scriptures, very good.

And that is why you will never accept that as it is used in Job 1:4 it is for birthday . The reason your translation added [b]own and went further to add set.
[/i]
Yet it has different meaning. So when KJV and NIV states it meant day of birth we should abandoned it and follow NWT who added two words to their translation. You don't understand what is going on here.[/b] The moment you stated that it has different meaning still didn't send the right signal to you.

Your claim on Job1:4 is FALSE.

His day in Job 1:4 as used was the same his day used in Job 3:1 which mean day of birth.

I don't need to look for strange construct to prove a point

Ecclesiastes 7:1 A good name is better than fine perfume, and the day of death better than the day of birth.

1. A good name is better than fine perfume

2. and the day of death better than the day of birth.


Good name .................Fine perfume (not bad perfume)

day of death ..................day of birth (is it a bad day?)

Na wetin resemble something we dey use describe am or compare am with.

Na to cite scripture no application.

Tell us is it a bad perfume or a good perfume.

Tell us since the day of death is good, is the day of birth bad?

Bros, If you like shout upandan till kingdom come, did Job 3:1 tell you Job celebrate his birthdays


From the abundance of your heart your mouth speaks. What does it say?

SHOUT UP AND DOWN. Look your post for verification

Janosky:


Job 1:4
Complete Jewish Bible
4 It was the custom of his sons to give banquets, each on his set day in his own house; and they would invite their three sisters to eat and drink with them"

When it is very obvious that the Jews in his own Bible never believed nor practice annual birthdays celebrations.
Achorladey is very desperate to force it on them.

Bros , you know say na JWs write Complete Jewish Bible.

achorladey:



Iru ti dapo mo shapa

Pay attention to how you listen. You are completely lost, I can't find you the educated literate

Romans 9:14-15 "Is God unjust? He says to Moses: " I will have mercy/compassion on whom I will have mercy/compassion"

Until you tell us Janosky = God who shows mercy/compassion on whomever. We go accept your mum detector skills.

God shows mercy/compassion to whomever including those celebrating CHRISTMAS and BIRTHDAYS . Educated literate you see am?

You know Christmas birthdays is paganism, have you stopped the practice

The wisest King died in paganism and enter God's kingdom. Tell us what should be the motivation to stop the practice?

Indeed out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. This one don lost completely.


Awon crew Jesus support Idolatry
achorladey:


Therefore, @ Matthew 28:20 & Galatians 4:8-11. Deuteronomy 4:2 Revelation 22:18, Jesus & Paul will NOT add their own & go beyond what is written.


Emphasis on go beyond what is written and still you the educated literate and mumu detector didn't see how you keep adding and going beyond what is written by repeatedly stating

Russell make heaven for celebrating birthdays and Christmas and it is not a sin but others who do now won't make heaven and are sinning by celebrating Pharoahs each day of the year"

Jehovah shows mercy/compassion to his Servants who died & erred doing pagan practice.
Bros, "Is God unjust?" (Romans 9:14-16)

achorladey:


Which of the claim is DUBIOUS

A. Wisest King died as pagan and will enter God's kingdom

B. No where it is stated God says it is a sin to celebrate birthdays

achorladey:

We all know your *1 Jehovah and Jesus support idolatry and paganism.


*2 You stated birthday is paganism therefore allow people celebrating it do so in peace and die in peace.

Janosky:


Both claims *1 & *2 are FALSE & DUBIOUS.

Janosky:

Jehovah shows mercy/compassion to his Servants who died & erred doing pagan practice.
Bros, "Is God unjust?" (Romans 9:14-16)


Achorladey & his crew-WAILERS, MURMURERS and grumblers ,Jude 1:16 & 1Corinthians 10:1-11 is your sifia pains.
Achorladey does Jehovah excuse WAILERS, MURMURERS and grumblers, as you are doing on this thread?

achorladey:



[s]Iru ti dapo mo shapa

Pay attention to how you listen. You are completely lost, I can't find you the educated literate [/s]

Romans 9:14-15 "Is God unjust? He says to Moses: " I will have mercy/compassion on whom I will have mercy/compassion"

Until you tell us Janosky = God who shows mercy/compassion on whomever. We go accept your mum detector skills.

*1
God shows mercy/compassion to whomever including those celebrating CHRISTMAS and BIRTHDAYS . Educated literate you see am?

You know Christmas birthdays is paganism, have you stopped the practice?

*2
The wisest King died in paganism and enter God's kingdom. Tell us what should be the motivation to stop the practice?

[s]Indeed out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. This one don lost completely.


Awon crew Jesus support Idolatry
[/s]

achorladey:


Indeed out of the abundance of the heart your mouth speaks.

Thanks for providing the answer.

Now you see yourself clearly in the mirror how educated literate you are and your mumu detector skills.

You can now go back to the beginning of the thread to this particular page to see your actual grade concerning listening and paying attention skills really is.

Oh deary dear from his typing fingers

Both claims *1 & *2 are FALSE & DUBIOUS.

E get as e be for you

Your total lost is 100% confirmed now

Janosky:

I'm totally lost as far as supporting a pagan practice you love & support is concerned.
Bros, Thank you very much

Janosky:


*1.
Achorladey, Matthew 28:20 & Jude 1:16-17.
Is birthday celebrations the teaching and command Jehovah approved for Jesus Christ?
Christmas birthdays celebration Jesus shunned, is Achorladey supporting it?
Bros, Judge yourself.

*2.
King Solomon and Russell erred. They were imperfect men.
Will their deeds save you?

Bros, are these men WAILERS & MURMURERS like you are doing on this forum ?
Bros, judge yourself.

blueAgent:
One topic and subject that has divided Christains, is the issue of one celebrating his or her birthday,

As Christains are we supposed to celebrate our birthdays or is it wrong?
To answer this questions we will examine God's words and Bible examples inorder to better understand God's opinion concerning this topic.

*1 lie
The Bible is silent on the issue of one celebrating his or her birthday, infact there are only 2 instances or examples of birthdays been celebrated in the Bible one was by pharaoh(Genesis 40:20) and the other was by Herod(Matthew 14:6)


*2 lie
When the Bible is silent on an issue it is left for us to use our discretion in making decisions.
Secondly we also need to consider if that issue or subject offends or displeases God in anyway and does it rob God of his glory?.


*3 lie
A good argument for celebration of ones birthday is the case of the institution of Marriage.
While God himself instituted marriage there is no clear example in the Bible that marriages should be celebrated with feast, but we all know that Jesus attended a marriage feast where he turned water into wine, thus we can conclude that marriage feasts are acceptable to God.

*4. Faulty analogy.
In the book of Gensis 21:8 Abraham the Man God called his friend threw a feast when Isaac his son was weaned although not a typical birthday but it was greatly celebrated by Abraham and his family.
In Job3:1-end Job was cursing and lamenting about his day of birth, this normally would have been a day of celebration but Job was bitter becos of the difficulty he found himself but he still recognized the uniqueness of his day of birth and God's sustenance all through his life.

[b] *5. Faulty generalization.
In plsams 90:12 the psalmist requested that God will teach them to number their days, inorder words to acknowledge their age or days on Earth.

There is nothing wrong in one appreciating God for adding one year to their life, if it is wrong than is it better we complain, murmur and curse God on our birthdays?

Celebrating birthdays with feast or not is left for an individual to decide, but weather with feast or not all should be done with humility.

Psalms 6:5 For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?

Psalms 35:18 I will give thee thanks in the great congregation: I will praise thee among much people.

Psalms 97:12 Rejoice in the LORD, ye righteous; and give thanks at the remembrance of his holiness.
Ephesians 5:20 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;

Psalms 71:6 By thee have I been holden up from the womb: thou art he that took me out of my mother's bowels: my praise shall be continually of thee.

In Conclusion.
It is obvious that there is nothing inherently evil in one celebrating his or her birthday, rather it is an opportunity for one to express his gratitude to God for life given and to pray for more of God sustanance for years to come.
In my own personal view that day should be used to reach out to the less privileged and those who are in difficult situations like those in prisons this a way of expressing ones gratitude to God.

Like Paul says in Roman 14:6 anyone can regard any day unto God as special be it your birthday or not but what matters is that in all, all Glory should be given only to God.
Romans 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
[/b]
Thank You.

Janosky:

LIES *1 to *3 above,
when you have Genesis 40:20, Matthew 14:6, Acts12:21-22, 2 Corinthians 6:14 ,Galatians 4:8-11, is your Bible silent on the issues of birthdays/Christmas celebrations?

*4 faulty analogy...
Was Job and Abraham celebrating birthdays?

* 5. Weak , faulty generalization & false attribution to the holy Scriptures.
In all those quotes, in which one did Jesus chose a special day to praise God for adding one year to his life span?
Abi no be Jesus Christ Achorladey & him crew member blueAgent dey follow?
Achorladey you mumu overmuch.

achorladey:


Bros, judge yourself

Another nail is added.

Since you know I should judge myself, what is the essence of your participation in this discussion from the beginning of the thread?

A. To judge OTHERS celebrating birthdays.

B. Not to judge OTHERS celebrating birthdays.

C. A and B are dubious and false claims.

The doctrine and teaching approved by Jesus Christ @ Matthew 28:20 is at the heart of this thread.
Bros, Matthew 28:20 and James 4:17 is the yardstick to judge yourself (same to all posts).
The koko of the matter is :
Achorladey vs Matthew 28:20.
Every post on this thread vs Matthew 28:20.
Bros, STOP WAILING and perambulating upandan.

achorladey:


Orthodox Jewish Bible, the Jubilee Bible, Complete Jewish Bible, the Scriptures (a Jewish Bible too) proven NWT Bible rendition of the Greek text is super inaccurate.


This one go hit am hard gan an.

Achorladey proven his own mumu to him crew member

Emusan:

Janosky:

Achorladey proven his own mumu to him crew member

Emusan:


[s]The great JaNosense the son of his father the Devil

Your painment has no end for now.
[/s]


It's not today your cherry pick and twisted mouth has been exposed

Complete Jewish Bible: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1

JUB: ¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the God, and the Word was God. John 1:1

OJB: Bereshis (in the Beginning) was the Dvar Hashem [YESHAYAH 55:11; BERESHIS 1:3], and the Dvar Hashem was agav (along with, etzel, Mishle 8:30;30:4) Hashem, and the Dvar Hashem was nothing less, by nature, than Elohim! [Psa 56:11(10); Yn 17:5; Rev. 19:13 i.e., the Ma’amar Memra] John 1:1

The scripture: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Elohim, and the Word was Elohim. John 1:1

New World Translation: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. John 1:1
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The Orthodox Jewish Bible says the word by nature Elohim, that is the meaning of the word was a god.
godlike/divine/a god is the same thing oh Mumu Crew members disgracing themselves.


Achorladey forgot he told Nairaland Jesus is not God Almighty.

Janosky:


The doctrine and teaching approved by Jesus Christ @ Matthew 28:20 is at the heart of this thread.
Bros, Matthew 28:20 and James 4:17 is the yardstick to judge yourself (same to all posts).
The koko of the matter is :
Achorladey vs Matthew 28:20.
Every post on this thread vs Matthew 28:20.
Bros, STOP WAILING and perambulating upandan.

achorladey:


Educated literate wey dey thank mumu. When you don find yourself back to the thread alert me. You still dey lost

Janosky:

Bros you wan console yourself?
You were lost when you were exposing your mumu with that comment.
"The more you change & divert attention from your Mumu, the more you make Jesus a liar"

Emusan:


[s]Just look at this lying liar JaNosense the son of his father the Devil.
[/s]
It's now according to Emusan, but was it Emusan who transliterated Complete Jewish Bible, Orthodox Bible?



Now you're trying to prove you know Greek and Hebrews more than the NATIVES yet you're telling someone up there he can't know IGBO/Ijaw more than the natives.

Can you see how hypocrisy is ruining your demented life?

.

Emusan:



*1a
Yet none Orthodox Bible, The Jubilee Bible, Complete Jewish Bible, The scriptures (a Jewish Bible too) didn't have [b]"and the word was a god"
[/b]
Can you see the reason why your lying father the Devil always proud of you?



You forgot you're the lying liar here.



But ALL THE JEWISH BIBLES say "...and the word was God"

Can you see your life outside?



because the translators of NWT are natives of Greek and Hebrews.

[s]Oponu radarada!



JaNosense you'll never have sense!
[/s]
[s]The lying liar like your father the Devil
[/s]


Emusan:

Emusan post no2
Your reference establishes that it should be "THE WORD WAS GOD" and goes further to say The term GOD is in reference to the NATURE or ESSENCE of the Word not His person. Which means the person of the Word is different from the person of the God, the Word was with."
.

Emusan *1a & Emusan post no2 is the same thing meaning
" the word was a god."
"The word was a god" is divine according to the Greeks & godlike/divine /a god according to the English.
According to the Jews "the word is Not Ha Elohim the God.
All the Jewish Bibles in his posts *1a & *2 proven the accuracy of NWT.
Emusan LIENUS, monumental LIAR disgracing himself upandan.

Janosky:

The Orthodox Jewish Bible John 1:1 Emusan posted is in agreement with NWT.
Shame on you Mr LIENUS
" This second theos could be translated divine ,as the construction indicates a qualitative sense for theos". The word is NOT God in the sense that he is the same person mentioned in John 1:1a,he is NOT God the Father (God"
Source : An Eastern/Greek Orthodox Bible Commentary ©2009,page 231.

The Greeks have disgraced Emusan LIENUS.

Emusan LIENUS, anger and bigotry wound you there.

Emusan *1a & Emusan post no2 is the same thing meaning
" the word was a god."
"The word was a god" is divine according to the Greeks & godlike/divine /a god according to the English.
According to the Jews "the word is Not Ha Elohim the God.
All the Jewish Bibles in his posts *1a & *2 proven the accuracy of NWT.
Emusan LIENUS, monumental LIAR disgracing himself upandan.

achorladey:


And the day I asked you the essence of that post when you retrieved it the first time you got lost and the question concerning it you can't answer

Oga wey im Jesus support Idolatry. Educated literate wey dey thank mumu.

Achorladey what is the essence of your LYING on this public forum ,Nairaland?

Achorladey wey him Jesus supports pagan Christmas and annual birthdays celebrations.
TUEH !!!!!!

Emusan:


Just soo shameful that watchtower society has successfully wiped away your brain because only if you can see your daftness by quoting a statement and still didn't understand it.

The point up there is that the WORD ISNT THE SAME PERSON AS THE FATHER

Keep exposing your ignorance and delusion.



I know it pains you to marrow but you can't help it because it's how you keep rolling with your father the Devil.



You're still pained that Orthodox Bible, Complete Jewish Bible and the rest exposed your lying organization.

Now see how is jumping up and down trying to claim he knows more than the native speakers of Greek simply because the natives speakers say you and your demonic organization are liars.

Janosky:


Achorladey what is the essence of your LYING on this public forum ,Nairaland?

Achorladey wey him Jesus supports pagan Christmas and annual birthdays celebrations.
TUEH !!!!!!

Janosky:


Greek Orthodox Bible Commentary:
"This second theos could be translated divine ,as the construction indicates a qualitative sense for theos". The word is NOT God in the sense that he is the same person mentioned in John 1:1a,he is NOT God the Father (God"
Source : An Eastern/Greek Orthodox Bible Commentary ©2009,page 231.

Emusan :
"The point up there is that the WORD ISNT THE SAME PERSON AS THE FATHER"

Emusan LIENUS, FALSEHOOD , anger and bigotry build mansions inside your deluded brain.
Greek Orthodox Bible Commentary says Emusan is unrepentant LIENUS.

Janosky:


Greek Orthodox Bible Commentary:
"This second theos [b]could be translated divine[/b] ,as the construction indicates a qualitative sense for theos". The word is NOT God IN THE SENSE THAT HE IS THE SAME PERSON MENTIONED in John 1:1a,he is NOT God the Father (God"
Source : An Eastern/Greek Orthodox Bible Commentary ©2009,page 23.

Emusan :
"The point up there is that the WORD ISNT THE SAME PERSON AS THE FATHER"

Emusan LIENUS, FALSEHOOD , anger and bigotry build mansions inside your deluded brain.
Greek Orthodox Bible Commentary says Emusan is unrepentant LIENUS.

Emusan:


I just love the way you're exposing your shameless lying mouth.

I decided to color the main part for you so that you can see your ignorance at work.

Greek Orthodox said "COULD BE" but went with the appropriate translation "and the WORD WAS GOD"

The same Orthodox Bible says "The word is NOT God IN THE SENSE THAT HE IS THE SAME PERSON MENTIONED in John 1:1a,he is NOT God the Father

I'll continue to teach you and your brothers basic English.

This shows that the native speaker shows NWT as false and wrong translation.

Still claiming ITK than the native speakers

achorladey:


That could be has become e fit be sey in the realm of their religion and that e fit be sey has been causing so many confusion that they hardly note due to the level of education and comprehension of grammar. That is the problem the educated literate is facing now.

His same finger, heart and mouth will state in one minute something is not DUBIOUS, LIES, CONTRADICTORY and in the next minute that same thing is DUBIOUS LIES, CONTRADICTORY.

The same Jewish Bible that he wants to use as his salvation has become the the nails being used to pin him.

Well, he must keep looking for strange construct.

achorladey:


That could be has become e fit be sey in the realm of their religion and that e fit be sey has been causing so many confusion that they hardly note due to the level of education and comprehension of grammar. That is the problem the educated literate is facing now.

His same finger, heart and mouth will state in one minute something is not DUBIOUS, LIES, CONTRADICTORY and in the next minute that same thing is DUBIOUS LIES, CONTRADICTORY.

The same Jewish Bible that he wants to use as his salvation has become the the nails being used to pin him.

Well, he must keep looking for strange construct.

Achorladey proven his love of FALSEHOOD luminously.

The Greeks said:
"the second theos ( "was God" "could be divine."
Divine= a god.
The word was God could be the word was divine.
Why ?
The Greeks said : "in John 1:1a, the word is NOT God the Father."


Bros, you & Emusan LIENUS are free to WAIL forever

Emusan:


I just love the way you're exposing your shameless lying mouth.

I decided to color the main part for you so that you can see your ignorance at work.

Greek Orthodox said "COULD BE" but went with the appropriate translation "and the WORD WAS GOD"

The same Orthodox Bible says "The word is NOT God IN THE SENSE THAT HE IS THE SAME PERSON MENTIONED in John 1:1a,he is NOT God the Father

I'll continue to teach you and your brothers basic English.

This shows that the native speaker shows NWT as false and wrong translation.

Still claiming ITK than the native speakers

The Mystery: Understanding Trinity! by Emusan(m): 11:43am On Aug 09, 2013.
Whenever we are refering to 'God' it's generally acceptable that we're refering to a Supreme Being
Then, who is God?
Jesus provided us the answer in:
John 4:24 "God is a Spirit...." that is this Supreme Being is a Spirit that can speak, move and has life but doesn't have flesh or bones. Luke 24:39. The misconception comes when the Bible combine the two words together i.e 'Spirit of God' and this simply means 'The Spirit Itself but the highest one of all' or used only the word 'God' which also means 'A Spirit'. Some people thought 'God' is a being like human who has body and His spirit lives inside His body. No! He's just a Spirit.

Who is HOLYGHOST?
The HOLY infront of the Ghost or Spirit signifies the greatest attribute of this supreme Spirit of uncorruptible, purity, e.t.c. No doubt that HolyGhost is this Supreme one.

Can God speak?
Bible confirms that God can speak. If God can speak then it means WORD can come out, we read in Heb 11:3 "Through faith we understand that the worlds(universe) were framed by the WORD of God,.." which also confirmed by Genesis in creation account...'And God said'.

The WORD that proceeded from God's mouth is the first thing in all creations apart from God Himself and it also God, that's why Moses wrote "In the beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth" Gen 1:1

Who is Jesus Christ?
In geneology of Jesus, we read an Angel visited a virgin(Mary) and told her, she will be visited by Holyspirit(God) Luke 1:35, then if God comes, He's coming to do what? Very simple is to come and speak because when a thing which has never happened is about to happen the WORD OF GOD will come out, especially when things that are seen not to be made from things that do appear Heb 11:3. The birth of Jesus Christ was so special because human reproduce by sperma but in case of Jesus, God speaks and thing we seen(Jesus) didn't make from thing we known(sperma)...John didn't make the mistake when he wrote "And the WORD was made flesh..." John 1:14. Now if God's word became a being Jesus Christ, did Jesus make a mistake to say 'I and my Father are one'? John10:30" No!
In Ephe 3:9 "...., who created all things by Jesus Christ" compare this with Heb 11:3 "..framed by the Word of God". Again can John also make the mistake to say "1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." John 1:1-3. No!
No wonder why John also decleared in 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word(Jesus), and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Why Jesus is the Only begotten Son?
Simple answer is, He's the WORD of God(what come out from God's mouth). That's why Jesus said "...My Father is greater than all(including Him)..." why? because if God didn't speak, word will not come out.

:

Emusan is the epitome of DELUSION & incurable bigotry.
Bros, Your case no get cure
Achorladey you see your life?

achorladey:


And what has keep coming from the abundance of your heart that your mouth speaks. Here they are


Lies.

Jesus support Idolatry.

The wisest King died a pagan and will inherit God's kingdom.

[b]Achorladey what is the essence of your LYING

Pick out the lies in the image you posted.

achorladey FALSEHOOD:
And the day I asked you the essence of that post when you retrieved it the first time you got lost and the question concerning it you can't answer"
Please be kind enough to raise your eyes up and see your spits splatter on your face

Achorladey wey him Jesus supports pagan Christmas and annual birthdays celebrations.

And Janosky wey him Jesus supports idolatry. This tells me your Jesus is not different from mine

Is your Jesus different from mine educated literate and the mumu detector Janosky?

Achorladey are you making the same claim about Jesus Christ on this thread and in the thread of both Screenshots?
LIENUS

achorladey : LYING.
And the day I asked you the essence of that post when you retrieved it the first time you got lost and the question concerning it you can't answer"


The Proof:
"Even the Christ you are raising & trying to raise to status ALMIGHTY GOD did not please himself"
My nephew & children told me they understand Achorladey statement.