chidekings:

why would both bear the loss?
the picker is not to be blamed here.
if ustavo have a screenshot of the ad which does not state that laptop does not power on,let him bring it.saying the seller has edited it is mere cheap assumptions

wildchild1:


All WhatsApp groups should be dissolved ASAP!!!

wildchild1:


Screenshot below is how I send pick up details to pickers. Look at the circled part, it clearly showed the condition of the phone.

In this case between picker and Ustavo, the buyer can argue on that and still be right because he didn't mention any fault with or without editing of ad. Picker too is right because ad said laptop doesn't come up and assumed buyer knew about it because we all buy faulty items.

One of the things I've learnt as an adult is that we can't always win everytime. #Peace

chidekings:

i perfectly understand the angle your coming from.
from your screenshot it is evident you state the condition of the phone,which unfortunately the buyer did not state in his.we all know that chances are if picker did not later make the pick up and charge buyer for faild pick up.he can easily dispute it.for me picker is absolved of blame here.

wildchild1:
Grabs popcorn

omotolsy:
1. Link is for reference but the instruction is what you are to work with even though link forms the whole instruction(it was not written by your customer). You cannot rely totally on link as a picker.
Adverts can be edited

2. You made a mistake in assuming.
When you go out on a pickup and you could not reach your customer when you discover an issue you do not go ahead to purchase. Calling and customer not picking does not vindicate you here because no agreement or communication was established

3. Your customer staying awake all night to secure and send you a deal should be respected and all pickers need to respect this. Pickers should know that it is not easy to stay awake at that time(this is normal) being on the field of action does not mean that you alone should be considered. Customers suffer this lack of sleep the most

4. You both are to bear this loss.
Picker did not consider that adverts can be edited(you have learnt this so move on after learning. You learn everyday on the job. You dont know all) and in such a case customer would definitely not be obligated to pay. No one will pay for a faulty laptop he did not know about

5. I blame both of you(more blames to picker on this) for keeping quiet for soo long, this issue should have been tabled immediately it happened. You both were simply being hard hearted

Picker: I will not release his other items if he does not pay me. I will see who will get tired. Meanwhile you tie down your own money too

Customer: I will not pay her and voice out because i am not at fault. Meanwhile you have other items with her and huge money is being tied down.

For others reading this, there is a lot to learn.

God bless us All.

yalhaji:
So I believe this is a Dispute thread where issues are viewed and resolved Objectively based on facts However,we want to resolve a dispute based on an assumption? "that the seller edited the post" is that to create a point?why not bring out evidence of page before editing like you claimed or why didn't you also assume he didn't read it as a result of an oversight since we want to work on assumptions
If we working with facts, how about we do it 100% Objectivity
I did my due diligence,CALLED and picked after properly reading the link he sent, don't understand where the 50/50 is coming from , but coming from Omotolsy!!!!!!!!!! not exactly shocking and surprising all positive reviews dropped on my thread he always came to counter it, you can take your time to observe
thanks

omotolsy:


2. You made a mistake in assuming.
When you go out on a pickup and you could not reach your customer when you discover an issue you do not go ahead to purchase. Calling and customer not picking does not vindicate you here because no agreement or communication was established

3. Your customer staying awake all night to secure and send you a deal should be respected and all pickers need to respect this. Pickers should know that it is not easy to stay awake at that time(this is normal) being on the field of action does not mean that you alone should be considered. Customers suffer this lack of sleep the most

lionlee216:
The below is copied from Dmx song "The Professional"

Nigga never saw it coming, that's how he got it (what?)
Never even thought of running, 'cause a nigga plotted (what?)
Smart niggas get niggas killed for real
I know, they make a deal? I'm comin with the steel (aight)
It's goin' be that cat you don't see that's gon' pop you
Stop you in your motherfucking tracks nigga and drop you
Get rid of all the clothes (uh-huh) dump the gun
I hate to be the type of nigga to leave you, slumped and run
But I'm on the job and right now there's more niggas that need to be
Left with a head full of lead, resting easily
And that twenty G's a fee, put to a good use
The only excuse I have for what I do is, love of abuse (c'mon!)
..

One of the most important advice I got when coming to the US was "In everything you do, always mind your business".

If anything I have learnt about blacks over here, they are so loyal to themselves if they are friends and they don't snitch even at the point of death. I have witnessed how our texas picker was robbed and one of them arrested, the lady even being threatened by police to go to prison, she refused to snitch.

I heard of recent that Mikky and his boy had issues and someone right here had to set the guy up to takeover Mikky's business or put him out of business . It's a family issue that needed to be sorted in house. I dont care what went wrong with them but for an outsider to be helping? If ever try this with black niggas here, the actions get people killed for real. Guys here have zero tolerance for Snitch.

My advice to people that will ever find themselves trying to come to US, pls some actions get people killed for real.

Also my people, look arround your circle, some people within your circle are snitch and at any opportunity, they will take u off the game.

I even saw the chats when he was saying mikky is a bd person and he has been using the guy for long and it's long overdue.

I have heard some several bad reviews about you especially among pickers but that none of my business.

This message is mainly for Omotoyosi.

yalhaji:
So I believe this is a Dispute thread where issues are viewed and resolved Objectively based on facts However,we want to resolve a dispute based on an assumption? "that the seller edited the post" is that to create a point?why not bring out evidence of page before editing like you claimed or why didn't you also assume he didn't read it as a result of an oversight since we want to work on assumptions
If we working with facts, how about we do it 100% Objectivity
I did my due diligence,CALLED and picked after properly reading the link he sent, don't understand where the 50/50 is coming from , but coming from Omotolsy!!!!!!!!!! not exactly shocking and surprising all positive reviews dropped on my thread he always came to counter it, you can take your time to observe
thanks

omotolsy:
1. Link is for reference but the instruction is what you are to work with even though link forms the whole instruction(it was not written by your customer). You cannot rely totally on link as a picker.
Adverts can be edited

2. You made a mistake in assuming.
When you go out on a pickup and you could not reach your customer when you discover an issue you do not go ahead to purchase. Calling and customer not picking does not vindicate you here because no agreement or communication was established

3. Your customer staying awake all night to secure and send you a deal should be respected and all pickers need to respect this. Pickers should know that it is not easy to stay awake at that time(this is normal) being on the field of action does not mean that you alone should be considered. Customers suffer this lack of sleep the most

4. You both are to bear this loss.
Picker did not consider that adverts can be edited(you have learnt this so move on after learning. You learn everyday on the job. You dont know all) and in such a case customer would definitely not be obligated to pay. No one will pay for a faulty laptop he did not know about

5. I blame both of you(more blames to picker on this) for keeping quiet for soo long, this issue should have been tabled immediately it happened. You both were simply being hard hearted

Picker: I will not release his other items if he does not pay me. I will see who will get tired. Meanwhile you tie down your own money too

Customer: I will not pay her and voice out because i am not at fault. Meanwhile you have other items with her and huge money is being tied down.

For others reading this, there is a lot to learn.

God bless us All.

omotolsy:
1. Link is for reference but the instruction is what you are to work with even though link forms the whole instruction(it was not written by your customer). You cannot rely totally on link as a picker.
Adverts can be edited

2. You made a mistake in assuming.
When you go out on a pickup and you could not reach your customer when you discover an issue you do not go ahead to purchase. Calling and customer not picking does not vindicate you here because no agreement or communication was established

3. Your customer staying awake all night to secure and send you a deal should be respected and all pickers need to respect this. Pickers should know that it is not easy to stay awake at that time(this is normal) being on the field of action does not mean that you alone should be considered. Customers suffer this lack of sleep the most

4. You both are to bear this loss.
Picker did not consider that adverts can be edited(you have learnt this so move on after learning. You learn everyday on the job. You dont know all) and in such a case customer would definitely not be obligated to pay. No one will pay for a faulty laptop he did not know about

5. I blame both of you(more blames to picker on this) for keeping quiet for soo long, this issue should have been tabled immediately it happened. You both were simply being hard hearted

Picker: I will not release his other items if he does not pay me. I will see who will get tired. Meanwhile you tie down your own money too

Customer: I will not pay her and voice out because i am not at fault. Meanwhile you have other items with her and huge money is being tied down.

For others reading this, there is a lot to learn.

God bless us All.

Anopheles:




Not really.

An agreement was made by the buyer and seller. He sent the details and an agreed price.
She's the right to assume buyer has done all the right checks before sending the details.
Or has the process changed?



This isn't it, boss...

It's the same way we here disturb their sleep ignoring the time difference.
You sent a deal, you didn't follow up on a deal and you didn't pick your calls during meetup. That's a lot of "didn'ts"

Anytime I send out a deal and it's time for bed, I let pickers know they should do their due diligence and pick. I leave my phone on ring and keep it by my side just in case there's need.

I've had a situation like this but I was on a night shift busy. I didn't hesitate sending the money to picker after cos it's my fault. Luckily for me, the problem wasn't a problem.


I would have stood by my earlier judgment of the 50/50 split cos we all thought picker didn't call during the pickup but her screenshots of her call log says otherwise. Right now, her only fault is not taking the failed pickup and leaving the laptop. Looking at it again, it wasn't her fault since she followed all protocols of pickups.

Ustavo has to dialogue with her and see if she can help with a discount. Her helping in any way is solely from her good will ooo

yalhaji:
So I believe this is a Dispute thread where issues are viewed and resolved Objectively based on facts However,we want to resolve a dispute based on an assumption? "that the seller edited the post" is that to create a point?why not bring out evidence of page before editing like you claimed or why didn't you also assume he didn't read it as a result of an oversight since we want to work on assumptions
If we working with facts, how about we do it 100% Objectivity
I did my due diligence,CALLED and picked after properly reading the link he sent, don't understand where the 50/50 is coming from , but coming from Omotolsy!!!!!!!!!! not exactly shocking and surprising all positive reviews dropped on my thread he always came to counter it, you can take your time to observe
thanks

sirlop:

Best comment here.It’s not the pickers fault at all. Before u send a pickup request, u are supposed to read through the advert and get every details of what u are getting. Assumptions here are not admissible. The claim that the ad was edited does not hold water. Ustavo should just dialogue with Yalhaji to see what she can do for him, but 50:50 option is a NO NO for me here..

wildchild1:


No, it should be 50:50 or outright refund to buyer

An instruction was sent as pick up request. Instructions sent by buyer supercedes seller's description. Pickers are to work with what was sent.

When picker got to location and discovered the anomaly, she was supposed to receive further instructions from buyer. Calling someone that didn't pick is not a go ahead to pick up, immediately the buyer didn't pick up, Bolu should have left and let it be a failed pick up for the buyer.

And I would reiterate, when there are 2 conflicting information about pick up details, picker is to seek clarity from buyer, if buyer is unavailable, pickers are to stand down.

wildchild1:


No, it should be 50:50 or outright refund to buyer

An instruction was sent as pick ding on both our ends.

adewasco2k:
If this has gone the other way; picker got to location and found out laptop was bad, tried calling buyer and no response and she left then sent failed pickup.

Buyer wakes and start complaining that he is aware and wanted it that way and was not going to pay failed pickup fee.

A lot of you will still come saying buyer is right because he must have seen the description and that’s what he wanted and picker should have done her job.

It’s best to just share the lost 50/50

wildchild1:


No, it should be 50:50 or outright refund to buyer

An instruction was sent as pick up request. Instructions sent by buyer supercedes seller's description. Pickers are to work with what was sent.

When picker got to location and discovered the anomaly, she was supposed to receive further instructions from buyer. Calling someone that didn't pick is not a go ahead to pick up, immediately the buyer didn't pick up, Bolu should have left and let it be a failed pick up for the buyer.

And I would reiterate, when there are 2 conflicting information about pick up details, picker is to seek clarity from buyer, if buyer is unavailable, pickers are to stand down.

Personally as a buyer, i'ld go for 50-50 because

1. Picker is my friend.
2. There was lack of communication/understanding on both our ends.

adewasco2k:
If this has gone the other way; picker got to location and found out laptop was bad, tried calling buyer and no response and she left then sent failed pickup.

Buyer wakes and start complaining that he is aware and wanted it that way and was not going to pay failed pickup fee.

A lot of you will still come saying buyer is right because he must have seen the description and that’s what he wanted and picker should have done her job.


It’s best to just share the lost 50/50

sirlop:

Like I said, assumptions are not admissible here. The onus lies on the buyer to furnish the picker with all needed information. Failure to do so, shouldn’t be the pickers fault. She got to the location, called the buyer thrice and got no response. She used her discretion to pick the item to avoid failed pickup. I don’t see y u guys should be putting it on her. To me 50:50 option is not obtainable. The picker is not to be blamed

lionlee216:


Daddy, IMHO, its the responsibility of the buyer to provide full details of the pickup. That the seller editted the ad is an assumption.

wildchild1:




In my comment quoted by both of you, I totally ignored the editing of ad I supported the notion that ad was not edited, so I didn't assuming anything.

I'm very happy that Sirlop said picker used her discretion to avoid failed pick up but when using discretion, it should have been to avoid a bigger loss of $400 than a pick up fee of $50. The clamour for both of them to bear the loss 50-50 is due to the fact that her discretion led us here.

I'll say again for the umpteenth time, the instruction given was to pick a fully functional laptop, immediately it was discovered that laptop doesn't come up and buyer wasn't picking up his calls for confirmation, picker should have left.

Adewasco2k, let's assume things went according to what you wrote, people will only grumble and blame picker, but guess what? No one will be fighting for the loss of $400, at worst case scenario, it would be about $30-50 failed pick up fee. Which would you rather have on your neck as a picker?

AMINDS22:
Hello house please I need assistance if anyone can help. I got a device from a fellow Nairalander Anibiniran by moniker. An iPhone X 64gb silver for 140,000. He sent the phone and I checked the analytical logs to see a large sim of panic log of which I complained to him he asked that I return the phone and he will refund this was on Monday of which I did. He then informed me that he will refund on Sunday which is today due to the fact he hasn’t sold it and I agreed. Today is Sunday and I asked for my refund of which he blocked me on WhatsApp and refuses to pick up my calls. This is his number please I need assistance +234 805 208 3495

Joeysage:
Good day fellow nairalanders. Please I need help in addressing this issue that is pending.
I had a deal with Wolfenstein, I got a laptop from him on the 7th of may which arrived to client on the 13th.
Now the laptop comes with a Clause of "GPU not installing", which simply means I'm paying for a system without a functional GPU and as such system relies on Intel graphics for all it's operations.
Now when system got to client, client put it on and it was working and I relayed that to Wolfenstein as well.
A couple days later on the 13th specifically(5 days later), client buzzed me and told me that the laptop is misbehaving while he tries to run his softwares on it(design software like Orion) which he said his previous Laptop could run without graphics card, as a matter of fact my bro also made use of that same program on his very old hp laptop which was generations inferior to this one in every ramifications.
We tried uninstalling the GPU only for the screen to trip off with keyboard light still on. Client tried everything but to no avail. Client had no choice but to force shutdown. Please note I was doing video call with client to try to troubleshoot the issue because uninstalling the GPU would make the system rely on it's Intel graphics. He tried uninstalling the GPU and the system went off, only displaying keyboard light and screen blank, and was inoperable. Only BIOS was accessible
Even tried to disable graphics in the bios and that was even worse as it wasn't able to boot into BIOS again. The system was the connected to tv and it was showing some very bad artifacts which was not normal. Now I explained all these to Wolfenstein that the system is not working well.
He even opened the Dell website after doing some research and was reading to me about this unit having issues according to reports of people on Dell forum. He read to me that the laptop had issues with running softwares programs.
Now, I told him that client is still interested in getting a system and wouldn't mind swapping for a functional one, or even upgrading the laptop. So he should check for options for the client.
Only for him to tell me that he's not the one in charge, that he has a boss and cannot make any decision without his boss's consent, and he'll have to relay to his boss.
I told him that I didn't buy system from his boss, that I bought directly from him.
Fast forward and he told me his boss boss will call me. After trying my best to convince him that system is malfunctioning while trying to run softwares, he was being elusive and claiming that it's because program is higher than system specs.
I'm at a dilemma here, because client is a very calm and good natured person and the worst I expected was for him to accept a swap option. But they are refusing that as it's clear the unit is malfunctional and are trying to avoid responsibility.
Please note that, it's within a week of purchase that issue was noticed and as such should still be under warranty.
What's the way forward in a case like this.

wolfenstein:


At this highlighted, please don't misquote what I said. I read to you from dells forum that it says dt particular laptop has dedicated graphics issues and not issues running software programs