MaxInDHouse:
This is like a repetition of what we've treated in the past, now i can perceive that it's the same "Previousgirl" because you seem less aggressive and abusive that's why i couldn't recognize you quickly.

Well Thomas exclamation saying "My Lord and my God" doesn't mean he was referring to Jesus as his Lord and God because Jesus said to a disciple named Mary
“Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God"

Jesus clearly stated here that he himself is a worshiper of the same God with his disciples.
So he can't be the same God to be worshiped if he is going to his father who is our father and his God who is also our God!

Isaiah 9:6

[6] For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called [/b]Wonderful, Counselor, [b]Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

The fools will still not get it because they are blinded

They will come and fight with this truth too

Preciousgirl:

Isaiah 9:6
[6] For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called [/b]Wonderful, Counselor, [b]Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

The fools will still not get it because they are blinded
They will come and fight with this truth too

The highlighted is your attitude. It's OK!

Preciousgirl:



Isaiah 9:6

[6] For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called [/b]Wonderful, Counselor, [b]Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

The fools will still not get it because they are blinded

They will come and fight with this truth too

This girl you're misquoted Isaiah 9:6.
Matthew 12:16, did Jesus warn them not to reveal he is God ?
3 evidences against her mumu post.
1.
Who was Jesus before his name will be called [/b]Wonderful, Counselor, [b]Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace ?
@ Daniel 10:13 & 12:1 Geneva Bible ©1599 say this girl mumu

2.
Which Prince wey no get Father?
She refused to bold "Prince of Peace", because she knows every Prince get his Father.
This girl no get SENSE
.

3.
Matthew 12:15-21.
Jesus, God’s Chosen Servant
15 But Jesus knew what they were planning. So he left that area, and many people followed him. He healed all the sick among them, 16 but he warned them not to reveal who he was. 17 This fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah concerning him:

18 “Look at my Servant, whom I have chosen.
He is my Beloved, who pleases me.
I will put my Spirit upon him,
and he will proclaim justice to the nations.
19 He will not fight or shout
or raise his voice in public.
20 He will not crush the weakest reed
or put out a flickering candle.
Finally he will cause justice to be victorious.
21 And his name will be the hope
of all the world.”
Matthew 12:15-21, Jesus Christ rejected this girl mumu post.
If this girl get liver make she quote Jesus words @ Matthew 12:15-18
.

Verdict:
@ Isaiah 9:6, Jehovah's chosen servant (Acts 3:13 & Isaiah 43:10-12) will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father ('last Adam',1 Cor 15:22,45) Prince of Peace" in the future after his earthly ministry

Janosky:


3 evidences against her mumu post.
1.
Who was Jesus before his name will be called [/b]Wonderful, Counselor, [b]Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace ?
@ Daniel 10:13 & 12:1 Geneva Bible ©1599 say this girl mumu

2.
Which Prince wey no get Father?
She refused to bold "Prince of Peace", because she knows every Prince get his Father.
This girl no get SENSE
.

3.
Matthew 12:15-21.
Jesus, God’s Chosen Servant
15 But Jesus knew what they were planning. So he left that area, and many people followed him. He healed all the sick among them, 16 but he warned them not to reveal who he was. 17 This fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah concerning him:

18 “Look at my Servant, whom I have chosen.
He is my Beloved, who pleases me.
I will put my Spirit upon him,
and he will proclaim justice to the nations.
19 He will not fight or shout
or raise his voice in public.
20 He will not crush the weakest reed
or put out a flickering candle.
Finally he will cause justice to be victorious.
21 And his name will be the hope
of all the world.”
Matthew 12:15-21, Jesus Christ rejected this girl mumu post.
If this girl get liver make she quote Jesus words @ Matthew 12:15-18
.

Verdict:
@ Isaiah 9:6, Jehovah's chosen servant (Acts 3:13 & Isaiah 43:10-12) will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father ('last Adam',1 Cor 15:22,45) Prince of Peace" in the future after his earthly ministry

John 1:1
[1]In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Preciousgirl:


John 1:1
[1]In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Matthew 12:15-18,
Jesus, God’s Chosen Servant
15 But Jesus knew what they were planning. So he left that area, and many people followed him. He healed all the sick among them, 16 but he warned them not to reveal who he was. 17 This fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah concerning him:

18 “Look at my Servant, whom I have chosen.
He is my Beloved, who pleases me.

Jesus Christ says Preciousgirl & her Pastorpreneurs do not understand John 1:1,14.

Preciousgirl FALSELY claiming that @ Matthew 12:16-18, Jesus Christ & Isaiah lied.

Preciousgirl:



1 Timothy 3:16

And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD was manifested in the FLESH, justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.

Halleluyah

Ehhhh...
Now, I get it
You want to learn subtly from Jehovah's witnesses. None of your religious leader could handle God's words like them.

The bolded word 'God' is a corruption added by KJV translators based on biased discretion. The word 'God' in that verse does not exist anywhere in the scriptures. It was 'He'/'Who' that we there. (I know this part won't interest you but I can supply you with more information if you're serious about your enlightenment journey)


Visit Biblehub to check other Translations to confirm this claim

<sub>New Living Translation
Without question, this is the great mystery of our faith: Christ was revealed in a human body and vindicated by the Spirit. He was seen by angels and announced to the nations. He was believed in throughout the world and taken to heaven in glory.

English Standard Version
Great indeed, we confess, is the mystery of godliness: HE was manifested in the flesh, vindicated by the Spirit, seen by angels, proclaimed among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory.

Berean Study Bible
By common confession, the mystery of godliness is great: [b]He[/b]appeared in the flesh, was vindicated by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was proclaimed among the nations, was believed in throughout the world, was taken up in glory.
Christian Standard Bible
And most certainly, the mystery of godliness is great: He was manifested in the flesh, vindicated in the Spirit, seen by angels, preached among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
And most certainly, the mystery of godliness is great: He was manifested in the flesh, vindicated in the Spirit, seen by angels, preached among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory.</sub>

Janosky:

Matthew 12:15-18,
Jesus, God’s Chosen Servant
15 But Jesus knew what they were planning. So he left that area, and many people followed him. He healed all the sick among them, 16 but he warned them not to reveal who he was. 17 This fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah concerning him:

18 “Look at my Servant, whom I have chosen.
He is my Beloved, who pleases me.

Jesus Christ says Preciousgirl & her Pastorpreneurs do not understand John 1:1,14.

Preciousgirl FALSELY claiming that @ Matthew 12:16-18, Jesus Christ & Isaiah lied.

Luke 23:38
[38]And an inscription also was written over Him in letters of Greek, Latin, and Hebrew: THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.

Luke 24:15-16

[15]So it was, while they conversed and reasoned, that Jesus Himself drew near and went with them.
[16] But their eyes were restrained, so that they did not know Him.


I pity them

Luke 24:30-31

[30]Now it came to pass, as He sat at the table with them, that He took bread, blessed and broke it, and gave it to them.
[31] Then their eyes were opened and they knew Him; and He vanished from their sight.

BELOW IS WHAT UNBELIEVERS NEED

Luke 24:45
[45] And He (JESUS) opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures.

Luke 24:51-52

[51]Now it came to pass, while He blessed them, that He was parted from them and carried up into heaven.

[52] And they worshiped Him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy,

The Disciples knew Jesus Christ was God , they worshipped Him. Fools will tell u, worship there means Obeisance

The Christ had ascended, and they worshipped Him literally as God . Glory

John 1:12
But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right [/b]to become children of God, to [b]those who believe in His name:

There are many provements that JESUS is YHWH....

Isaiah 50:6 I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting.

Matthew 27:30-31 And they spit upon him, and took the reed, and smote him on the head.
And after that they had mocked him, they took the robe off from him, and put his own raiment on him, and led him away to crucify him.

Matthew 26:67 Then did they spit in his face, and buffeted him; and others smote him with the palms of their hands,

HalleluYAH....

Is there anything new in what the OP is saying?

Is it not the same ideas that led to division in their chuches?

If she believes she's competent enough to handle God's word, let her go outside there and fetch disciples for her God or Jesus, no wahala!

John 1:1,14

[1]In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

[14] And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

JWS JOHN 1:1 READS

In the beginning was ANGEL MICHAEL, and ANGEL MICHAEL was with GOD and ANGEL MICHAEL was GOD



For lack of knowledge my people perish indeed

John 1:49,51

[49]Nathanael answered and said to Him, “Rabbi, You are the Son of God! You are the King of Israel!”

[51]And He said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, hereafter you shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of Man.”

Isaiah 44:6
[6]“Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel, And his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: ‘I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God.

May The Lord grant you understanding

Preciousgirl:
John 1:49,51

[49]Nathanael answered and said to Him, “Rabbi, You are the Son of God! You are the King of Israel!”

[51]And He said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, hereafter you shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of Man.”

Isaiah 44:6
[6]“Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel, And his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: ‘I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God.

May The Lord grant you understanding

Preciousgirl See your quote, check am nau
John 1:49 "son of God"
John 1:51 "son of man"

Isaiah 44:6 this says Jehovah the King of Israel, And his Redeemer, Jehovah of armies: ‘I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God".

Preciousgirl answer 4 questions:
*You done forget Matthew 12:15-18?

*John 20:17, who is your deity calling "my God,my Father"?

*Matthew 26:46, who did your deity cried to & call: "my God, my God" ?

*@ Matthew 12:15-18, did Jesus Christ & Isaiah proven that Preciousgirl & her Pastorpreneurs lack understanding of Isaiah 44:6?

This girl continue DECEIVING yourself.

Janosky:


Preciousgirl See your quote, check am nau
John 1:49 "son of God"
John 1:51 "son of man"

Isaiah 44:6 this says Jehovah the King of Israel, And his Redeemer, Jehovah of armies: ‘I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God".

Preciousgirl answer 4 questions:
*You done forget Matthew 12:15-18?

*John 20:17, who is your deity calling "my God,my Father"?

*Matthew 26:46, who did your deity cried to & call: "my God, my God" ?

*@ Matthew 12:15-18, did Jesus Christ & Isaiah proven that Preciousgirl & her Pastorpreneurs lack understanding of Isaiah 44:6?

This girl continue DECEIVING yourself.

Luke 24:25-27,44
[25] Then He said to them, “O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken!

[26]Ought not the Christ to have suffered these things and to enter into His glory?”

[27]And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.

[44] Then He said to them, “These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me.”

I know this blind fool will still not understand albeit

Jesus Christ is God Almighty, jws are dying when they see this

The highlighted!

Why not help him to understand by telling him who was Jesus praying to with sweats dropping like blood {Luke 22:44} and what Paul meant when he said Jesus prayed to the one who can save him. Hebrews 5:7
So who is the person that has power to save your Almighty God?

Preciousgirl:


Luke 24:25-27,44
[25] Then He said to them, “O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken!

[26]Ought not the Christ to have suffered these things and to enter into His glory?”

[27]And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.

[44] Then He said to them, “These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me.”

I know this blind fool will still not understand albeit

Jesus Christ is God Almighty, jws are dying when they see this

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted!

Why not help him to understand by telling him who was Jesus praying to with sweats dropping like blood {Luke 22:44} and what Paul meant when he said Jesus prayed to the one who can save him. Hebrews 5:7
So who is the person that has power to save your Almighty God?

Philippians 2:5-8
[5]Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus,
[6]who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,

[7] but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men.

[8]And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross.


Hope the fools understand, albeit I know they wont

John 15:22-23

[22]If I had not come and spoken to them, they would have no sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin.
[23]He who hates Me hates My Father also.

John 2:24-25
[24] But Jesus did not commit Himself to them, because He knew all men,

[25]and had no need that anyone should testify of man, for He knew what was in man.

Preciousgirl:
John 2:24-25
[24] But Jesus did not commit Himself to them, because He knew all men,

[25]and had no need that anyone should testify of man, for He knew what was in man.

Preciousgirl:

I know this blind fool will still not understand albeit

Jesus Christ is God Almighty, jws are dying when they see this.
John 15:22-23

[22]If I had not come and spoken to them, they would have no sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin.
[23]He who hates Me hates My Father also.

John 15:23, who is "my Father" to your Jesus Almighty God?

This girl your insults and lies have ZERO effect on Jehovah's servants, Isaiah 54:17.
Know that today and know peace.


John 20:17 "I am ascending to my Father & my God"
Preciousgirl,who is your Almighty God Jesus " ascending to meet in heaven?
Who did Jesus your Almighty God call "my Father & my God?

Preciousgirl:


Philippians 2:5-8
[5]Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus,
[6]who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,

[7] but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men.

[8]And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross.


Hope the fools understand, albeit I know they wont

Another foolish post misquote Phil 2:5-8.
3 evidences against Preciousgirl LYING claim.

*1
John 14:28, "my Father (God) is greater than I,(Jesus)".
Jesus proven that your Phillipians 2:6 is a satanic distortion Jesus words @ John 14:28.
Scriptures confirm scriptures.
The Trinitarians satanic distortion of Phil 2:6 is in opposition to Jesus Christ @ John 14:28 & John 20:17.

.2
Phil 2:5-6,let this mind of Christ be in you, Preciousgirl,
Christ did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,
Preciousgirl ( she has the mind of Christ) you don't consider it robbery to be equal with God.
Jesus Christ and Preciousgirl are equal to God.
ALL Trinity GIBBERISH believers are equal to God,they have the mind of Christ


*3.
@ Revelation 1:1, Jesus is the form of God when he received the Revelation from his God & Father ( Rev 1:5-6)
If Preciousgirl quote Revelation 1:7-8 here, @ verses 5-6, & Rev 3:12, Jesus Christ done rubbish her LYING claim.
Jesus in the form of God, in heaven received Revelation from his God & Father.
Trinity na mumu doctrine

Preciousgirl:


Luke 24:25-27,44
[25] Then He said to them, “O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken!

[26]Ought not the Christ to have suffered these things and to enter into His glory?”

[27]And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.

[44] Then He said to them, “These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me.”

I know this blind fool will still not understand albeit

Jesus Christ is God Almighty, jws are dying when they see this

This girl, You have to prove to this forum that Matthew 12:15-20 is missing from your Bible.
Until we see the proof, this girl you are DECEIVING yourself.

MaxInDHouse:
You are PRECIOUS in the eyes of God and all honour and glory belongs to Him and Him alone!

What i want you to remember is the words of Jesus himself when he said:

By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit Matthew 7:16-18

Do you agree that Jesus is the most wonderful counselor ever? Do you also agree that he is the one and only PRINCE whose counsel will make LOVE, JOY and PEACE reign amongst God's people? Isaiah 9:6

Then leave whatever interpretation you've been hearing in the past and try to focus on what is happening around you.
Because humans are imperfect therefore they can't perfectly exhibit Godly qualities like "LOVE JOY PEACE PATIENCE GOODNESS GENTLENESS FAITH MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL" individually. But as a group they can if God's Holy Spirit is permeating their gathering. John 17:20-23

So if JWs tell you that Jesus is Archangel Michael instead of arguing with them why not observe their group if they're able to reflect the qualities of God's Holy Spirit {Galatians 5:22-23} Paul said against (any group of persons) reflecting these qualities, there is no law!

If they've used that key to unlock the door to LOVE, JOY and PEACE who told you they don't have the right key?

Just give a scripture that says God created Jesus, and Jesus created every other thing. I think that is the thrust of the topic.

Janosky:

This girl, You have to prove to this forum that Matthew 12:15-20 is missing from your Bible.
Until we see the proof, this girl you are DECEIVING yourself.

John 10:30
[30] I and My Father are one.”

Preciousgirl:


John 10:30
[30] I and My Father are one.”

This girl has the same mind of Christ, she do not consider it robbery to be equal with God. @ Philippians 2:5-6.

Jesus, Preciousgirl and the Father are one.

Preciousgirl, You are just DECEIVING yourself.

MightySparrow:


Just give a scripture that says God created Jesus, and Jesus created every other thing. I think that is the thrust of the topic.

Colossians 1:15 (KJV) he (Jesus) is the first born of every creature"
What is the meaning of creature @ Colossians 1:15?

In your Bible, Which first born doesn't have a Father?

Romans 11:35-36, what came through the Father?

Revelation 3:5 in heaven, Jesus calls God , "my Father."
Revelation 3:12, Jesus calls his Father "my God" (Jesus is a son in heaven).
Revelation 3:14 Jesus "is the beginning of the creation by God"
Romans 11:35-36, "Jesus came through the Father".
The same reason Jesus is son of God as Adam is son of God.
Morning stars dwelling in heaven are sons of God. Job 38:7, Rev 22:16.

Preciousgirl:


John 10:30
[30] I and My Father are one.”

After beating your head with knowledge you run to google to find new verse to back your ignorance.

Wetin concern me sef

John 3:13

No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven.

John 3:13,31

[13] No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven.

[31] He who comes from above is above all; he who is of the earth is earthly and speaks of the earth. He who comes from heaven is above all.