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Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by lavylilly: 5:06pm On May 24, 2021
What's the solution
Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by leofab(f): 5:07pm On May 24, 2021
Loud mouth
Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by proxillin(m): 5:09pm On May 24, 2021
lavylilly:
What's the solution

The solution is for us to accept fulanis as our lords
Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by somehow: 5:09pm On May 24, 2021
Regional system of government or True federalism.
Anything outside these 2 is a no no.

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Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by DMerciful(m): 5:10pm On May 24, 2021
It has most times been the solution. Go and study Yugoslavia, USSR, Sudan, Singapore....they would have been worse off if they remained. Tell be a country that broke out that's doing worse than when it was in its former country?
SangoOlukosoOba:
Secession has never been the solution

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Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by MondayOsunbor(m): 5:10pm On May 24, 2021
afroniger:


https://tribuneonlineng.com/secession-not-solution-1999-constitution-is-problem-adebanjo/



all these elites are mistaking a very important fact we are not denying Nigeria

they are free to stay in Nigeria


but we are not staying in Nigeria with them Simple

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Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by Bahose(m): 5:10pm On May 24, 2021
The fulanis can not allow such a demand, so the only solution is to divide the country. Some people fail to understand that fulanis will never suspend 1999 constitution go and write it down.

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Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by proxillin(m): 5:11pm On May 24, 2021
DMerciful:
It has most times been the solution. Go and study Yugoslavia, USSR, Sudan, Singapore....they would have been worse off if they remained. Tell be a country that broke out that's doing worse than when it was in its former country?

They know the truth. But they have one brother or sister in APC or PDP, they know if Nigeria breaks, their politician brother will be out of business

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Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by God2man2again(m): 5:11pm On May 24, 2021
somehow:
Regional system of government or True federalism.
Anything outside these 2 is a no no.

Exactly!

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Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by wink2015(m): 5:11pm On May 24, 2021
I THINK CONFEDERAL STRUCTURE or Confederalism is good for Nigeria.

That is a loose union.

That was the demand of Ojukwu in Aburi, Ghana before the barrel of the gun started banging from both sides of the River Niger.

IN A CONFEDERATION, the component part will have more autonomy to run their administration without the other regions stopping ones growth.

Confederalism will give each region the autonomy its so long for.

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Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by somehow: 5:12pm On May 24, 2021
DMerciful:
It has most times been the solution. Go and study Yugoslavia, USSR, Sudan, Singapore....they would have been worse off if they remained. Tell be a country that broke out that's doing worse than when it was in its former country?

That's an assumption that it would have been worse since it does not exist for comparison.

Between Sudan and Nigeria, which one would you go for?

What's with Singapore in your examples?
Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by tishbite41(m): 5:12pm On May 24, 2021
Na una sabi


Forza Biafra

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Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by kunkelhanspeter(m): 5:13pm On May 24, 2021
What is stopping the southerner state from restructuring this zoo by themselves?
Because no Northerner will support restructuring

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Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by Qoko: 5:13pm On May 24, 2021
Your opinion but why do everyone very elder statesmen scared of Secession? I thought they said all regions has abundant mineral resources and the leaders has made enough money

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Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by tishbite41(m): 5:13pm On May 24, 2021
somehow:


That's an assumption that it would have been worse since it does not exist for comparison.

Between Sudan and Nigeria, which one would you go for?

What's with Singapore in your examples?
Singapore was once in a union with Malaysia.

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Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by DMerciful(m): 5:16pm On May 24, 2021
Singapore separated from Malaysia, how are they doing today? Far better than Malaysia.

It is not an assumption because if you take Yugoslavia for instance, the 8 countries that came out are doing better than Yugoslavia.

Tell me a country that broke out and became worse off?
somehow:


That's an assumption that it would have been worse since it does not exist for comparison.

Between Sudan and Nigeria, which one would you go for?

What's with Singapore in your examples?

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Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by somehow: 5:17pm On May 24, 2021
tishbite41:

Singapore was once in a union with Malaysia.
But not as one country, their situation then wasn't like that of Nigeria.

If you notice, most of the countries that broke out of USSR are not known for anything worthwhile.

They are not exceptional either, all of them are not in the league of a model state.
Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by DMerciful(m): 5:19pm On May 24, 2021
Na for mouth? If push comes to shove, will you stand by this? Will the majority of Yorubas support Oduduwa nation? Things like this can't be done without majority
meolaniyi:
You are wasting your time baba. We have gone beyond that. Yoruba nation or nothing
Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by Skillsnigeria: 5:19pm On May 24, 2021
Must everybody become a Nigeria

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Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by FEGNO: 5:21pm On May 24, 2021
Maybe secession is not the answer. But how do you deal with irridentists inbthe North who refuse to even discuss the Nigerian project and hold down the aspirations of others?

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Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by somehow: 5:21pm On May 24, 2021
DMerciful:
Singapore separated from Malaysia, how are they doing today? Far better than Malaysia.

It is not an assumption because if you take Yugoslavia for instance, the 8 countries that came out are doing better than Yugoslavia.

Tell me a country that broke out and became worse off?

While I said their status then isn't same as that of Nigeria.

Singapore then was like a country on its own until the British criminals merged them together with Singapore.

But there was no country like Oodua, Fulani, Biafra etc when the British criminals formed Nigeria. More reason I don't think the comparison is justified.

I still support Regional system of government or True federalism.
Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by yusluvad(m): 5:22pm On May 24, 2021
DMerciful:
I respect Pa Adebanjo position however I believe all cards should be put on the table. Restructuring and breakup. If you let the Fulanis know you're not ready for breakup, they will not listen to you regarding restructuring. Even if you're not ready for breakup, threaten them with it cos nothing scares northerners than breakup.
Lol
Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by DMerciful(m): 5:22pm On May 24, 2021
Change your mindset! Secession is not declaration of war. Just like divorce, couples can separate peacefully or through violence, their choice. There have been countless countries that broke out without firing a single shot! Yugoslavia and USSR broke up without a single shot being fired and they broke up to over 20 countries
YoungLionken:
Elders sit together and discuss possible solutions to problems but, children go for destruction!

For those of you clamoring for war.. War doesn't produce results without damage...

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Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by somehow: 5:24pm On May 24, 2021
DMerciful:
Singapore separated from Malaysia, how are they doing today? Far better than Malaysia.

It is not an assumption because if you take Yugoslavia for instance, the 8 countries that came out are doing better than Yugoslavia.

Tell me a country that broke out and became worse off?

Doing better in what sense?
Can you back this up?
Yugoslavia on its own is not even a country known to have the resources to cater for those countries that broke out and all of them put together aren't even a model to look at when it comes to prosperity.
Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by Coldie(m): 5:24pm On May 24, 2021
Same people who don't want secession don't want the same foolish constitution to be changed.

You ask yourself what's wrong with these people

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Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 5:24pm On May 24, 2021
I concur
Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by tishbite41(m): 5:27pm On May 24, 2021
somehow:
But not as one country, their situation then wasn't like that of Nigeria.

If you notice, most of the countries that broke out of USSR are not known for anything worthwhile.

They are not exceptional either, all of them are not in the league of a model state.
You don't mean it?!
Is Nigeria better than Georgia, Estonia, Moldova, Kazhastan, Uzbekistan and even Ukraine?!

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Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by DMerciful(m): 5:28pm On May 24, 2021
The Southern Protectorate was like a country with its govt. The Northern protectorate was also like a country. They were merge together for Britain's benefit.

Also, the Benin kingdom, Oyo empire, Kanem-borno empire etc were like countries then and they existed for thousands of years alone before British came so why are we afraid to stay alone?

You seems to be avoiding Yugoslavia and USSR, why?
somehow:


While I said their status then isn't same as that of Nigeria.

Singapore then was like a country on its own until the British criminals merged them together with Singapore.

But there was no country like Oodua, Fulani, Biafra etc when the British criminals formed Nigeria. More reason I don't think the comparison is justified.

I still support Regional system of government or True federalism.

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Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by YoungLionken(m): 5:29pm On May 24, 2021
DMerciful:
Change your mindset! Secession is not declaration of war. Just like divorce, couples can separate peacefully or through violence, their choice. There have been countless countries that broke out without firing a single shot! Yugoslavia and USSR broke up without a single shot being fired and they broke up to over 20 countries

USSR,Yugoslavia's not Nigeria. Africa in general, makes use of force more than dialogue..

By the way, you're not unaware of the crisis currently going on in the east, the massacre against the Nigerian security operatives...
Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by DMerciful(m): 5:31pm On May 24, 2021
You see how you're changing the goal post?

Tell me among these countries, which of them were doing better when they were in former Yugoslavia as a country?

Bosnia and Herzegovina
Croatia
Kosovo
Montenegro
North Macedonia
Serbia
Slovenia

somehow:


Doing better in what sense?
Can you back this up?
Yugoslavia on its own is not even a country known to have the resources to cater for those countries that broke out and all of them put together aren't even a model to look at when it comes to prosperity.

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Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by knowhowk: 5:33pm On May 24, 2021
A Part of a Country willing to seccede has the right to do so Peacefully through Referendum .It happens in Chekslovakia ,It happens in U.S.S.R . Seccesion does not Destroy anything ,No part of the Country is Blessed with Everything, Almighty God has Distributed things in Creation in such a way that Exchange should be done .There are Agricultural Product so much in the North ,Cattles etc ,In the East They are Advancing in Technology and many items Manufacturers .In the west You see awesome Adminstrative Prowess etc .So the Exchange Continues .

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Re: Ayo Adebanjo: Secession Not Solution, 1999 Constitution Is Problem by GoldHorse(m): 5:36pm On May 24, 2021
1. Oduduwa nation is not secceding its self determination we are calling for.
2. Baba, I respectfully ask you to go and sit down sir. Let young people determine their fate!

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