naptu2:


I have absolutely no problem advising my son to join a fraternity or sorority (that's if you know the meaning of the word), but I will never advise him to join a youth gang or criminal organisation (do you know the difference?).


Now since I've answered your question, you answer mine, what is a fraternity?

naptu2:
Confraternity ➜ Youth gang ➜Mafia.


1) Fraternities and Sororities: A confraternity, fraternity or sorority (and in, America, Greek letter organisation) are social clubs in universities in many parts of the world. These associations are very common in American universities and very many Americans, including prominent politicians, businessmen, and entertainment stars are members of the associations. The associations were generally formed to help their members academically and serve as a forum for people to network and connect. Fraternity = brotherhood, sorority = sisterhood. Former president George H. W. Bush was a member of Delta Kappa Epsilon at Yale, Bill Clinton is an honorary member of Phi Beta Sigma, and George W. Bush is a member of Delta Kappa Epsilon at Yale like his father. Basketball star, Michael Jordan, is a member of Omega Psi Phi, civil rights leader Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was a member of Alpha Phi Alpha and comedian and actor Cedric “The Entertainer” is a member of Kappa Alpha Psi.

What Wole Soyinka started was a fraternity that was meant to be like the fraternities in American universities.


2) Youth gangs: A gang is a group or society of associates, friends or members of a family with a defined leadership and internal organization that identifies with or claims control over territory in a community and engages, either individually or collectively, in illegal, and possibly violent, behaviour.

Many youth gangs sprang up in the United States in the period between the 1940s and the 1960s. The most well known are the Bloods and the Crips. These youth gangs control territory through acts of violence and intimidation. They usually have their unique colours and symbols like handshakes, walking styles and dances. They could violently attack and even kill someone for wearing their colour in their territory. They raise funds through illegal means like bullying and intimidation, drug sales, etc.

Many fraternities in Nigerian universities became youth gangs in the 1970s and most especially in the 1980s. They engaged in violent acts like murder and assault, gruesome initiation rituals, etc. In response to this, Professor Wole Soyinka pulled the Pyrates Fraternity, now known as the National Association of Seadogs, out of the universities.


3) Mafia: A mafia is a type of organized crime syndicate whose primary activities are protection racketeering, arbitrating disputes between criminals, and brokering and enforcing illegal agreements and transactions. Mafias often engage in secondary activities such as gambling, loan sharking, drug-trafficking, prostitution, and fraud. Examples of Mafia syndicates include the Cosa Nostra, the Yakuza, the Camorra and the Bratva.

The members of these 1980s and 1990s youth gangs have become older and some of them have moved out of Nigeria. They have established their organisations as criminals syndicates in places like Canada, Italy and the United States. They engage in drug trafficking, pimping prostitutes and other illegal activities and they have formed agreements with or fought wars against the Italian Mafia, the American Mafia and other such illegal organisations.

Some members of these organisations have become government officials and high ranking members of the society in Nigeria.


What Wole Soyinka founded in 1952 was a fraternity, not a youth gang or mafia syndicate.

eastOFwest:


Igbos have suffered in Nigeria. Someone will have personal problem at home, perhaps his preeq cannot raise again to service his wife or girlfriend and she has insulted him. Such a person will come and take it out on Igbos.

Fyi, an Igbo man was part of the founding founders of Pyrates confraternity (the original 7 abi 5). Igbos don't do cultism like that unlike Yoruba and Edo/Delta people wey carry am for head. No cult has originated in Igbo land. None. Igbos gentrify any cult they happen to join on an individual basis.

Please go and seek solution to your poverty or non performing manhood and leave Igbos out of your personal misery.

Thank you

phemmyfour:
Illiterate everywhere

They don't know the difference between confraternity and cultism

Righteousness2:
If you are Privileged to get to a certain age and you still don't see the need to Surrender to JESUS Christ and do away with evil, there will be special koboko for you in Hell.

generalwo:
.... We will hold the proponents of such religions responsible..... As far as an average Nigerian is concerned, the fraternity wole soyinka and Co created in Nigeria has done more harm than good to the society....... I can swear that wole soyinka will advise his kids and grandchildren not to join any fraternity in Nigeria having seen and realized he created a monster

superlanny:
Okay let me help you, it's just like joining Man o War, Boys Scout or Girls Guide, but on a much more higher level, they are charitable, or social societies or confraternities with an ideology to make the world a better place.
Hope you understand sha. Or Google up on them and read properly.

generalwo:
... Bros, back in my days at the university of Benin, a group killed a young engineering student and when asked, they said they were members of so so and so confraternity......how does that make sense sir? A mother who's son was beheaded in front of her, so u want to tell her that a fraternity is a good thing? Frater9in Nigeria is different from frat in other parts of the world..... Here in 9ja...a frat which is the same thing as a cult is an evil gathering of people who are committed to killing rival gangs senselessly all in the name of supremacy

BePrepared:


With ur comment I doubt if u are up to 18, do you expect them to write in their constitution that they re after killing and maiming.


May sense fall upon u dear brother
This I pray

Shaolin0147:
Soyinka founder of cultist that have wasted thousand lives of our youths!!

This man needs to be arrested

lonlytroy:
I just dey laugh, so they no see this old cultist arrest

KanuSE:


Shall we stop having a government just because PDP and APC have messed up Nigeria?

KanuSE:

Your ignorance is healthy.

Wawelexy:
......... Many dead souls would have been alive if Wole and co didn't create that shit. U are d cofused one here cos u don't even know about this people(from ur wrong definition). If u try to justify cultism or confraternity(anyhow u put it), i will insult u again and again cos u deserve it.

generalwo:
..... So u are advocating that fraternity should continue given all that has and is still happening around the country?

Wawelexy:
......... Many dead souls would have been alive if Wole and co didn't create that shit. U are d cofused one here cos u don't even know about this people(from ur wrong definition). If u try to justify cultism or confraternity(anyhow u put it), i will insult u again and again cos u deserve it.

naptu2:


You have still not answered my question and I think your emotions are making it difficult for you to understand what was in the first post that you quoted.

What you described here is a youth gang, not a fraternity. The fact that they called themselves a fraternity does not mean that that is what it is, neither does it mean that all fraternities are like that.

Have you heard of Confraternity of Christian Mothers? Have they killed anyone?

Go back to my earlier post that you quoted and read it again and then you'll see what a fraternity really is.

BePrepared:


With ur comment I doubt if u are up to 18, do you expect them to write in their constitution that they re after killing and maiming.


May sense fall upon u dear brother
This I pray

eastOFwest:


Igbos have suffered in Nigeria. Someone will have personal problem at home, perhaps his preeq cannot raise again to service his wife or girlfriend and she has insulted him. Such a person will come and take it out on Igbos.

Fyi, an Igbo man was part of the founding founders of Pyrates confraternity (the original 7 abi 5). Igbos don't do cultism like that unlike Yoruba and Edo/Delta people wey carry am for head. No cult has originated in Igbo land. None. Igbos gentrify any cult they happen to join on an individual basis.

Please go and seek solution to your poverty or non performing manhood and leave Igbos out of your personal misery.

Thank you

KanuSE:


Cultism and confraternity are not the same.

naptu2:


You have still not answered my question and I think your emotions are making it difficult for you to understand what was in the first post that you quoted.

What you described here is a youth gang, not a fraternity. The fact that they called themselves a fraternity does not mean that that is what it is, neither does it mean that all fraternities are like that.

Have you heard of Confraternity of Christian Mothers? Have they killed anyone?

Go back to my earlier post that you quoted and read it again and then you'll see what a fraternity really is.

Upjis:
Hell awaits you

Souls are doomed just because of you

generalwo:
..... This is what Wikipedia told me a confraternity is in Nigeria.. . What do u have to say about it sir? Or na only your own view of fraternity correct? My point is, on paper a fraternity may be a religion of bliss and sugar but in reality, what is it here in Nigeria...... Are they not involved in the same activities as dreaded cult groups? Mention one fraternity on our campuses and I can dig up an evil they have commited recently

AustineE1:
The topic says Pyrate 'confraternity',I wonder why this people above me are shouting 'cultism',is it that some people cannot comprehend or is it ignorance of the highest order.
Merriam Webster dictionary defines confraternity as a society devoted to a religious or a charitable cause.
I certainly know from information available to all, that the pyrate confraternity is a charity organization,made up of like minds with the goal of creating an egalitarian society where the strong protects the weak and men are weighed by the strength of their character and not by the colour of their skins,religion or ethnicity. Little wonder why they are highly revered in and outside Nigeria for notable achievements in humanitarian activities and social reengineering.
I guess if this isn't a noble society of men,they likes of Prof Wole Soyinka and hundreds of notable men who associates with this group,could have dissociated for preservation of their reputation and image.

BePrepared:


Anyone trying to paint contra or cult with dictionary or anything is at best simply ignorant...

May sense fall on him
This I pray

generalwo:
..... This is what Wikipedia told me a confraternity is in Nigeria.. . What do u have to say about it sir? Or na only your own view of fraternity correct? My point is, on paper a fraternity may be a religion of bliss and sugar but in reality, what is it here in Nigeria...... Are they not involved in the same activities as dreaded cult groups? Mention one fraternity on our campuses and I can dig up an evil they have commited recently

Righteousness2:
If you are Privileged to get to a certain age and you still don't see the need to Surrender to JESUS Christ and do away with evil, there will be special koboko for you in Hell.

KanuSE:


Cultism and confraternity are not the same sir.