MaxInDHouse:
AntiChristian is just zealous for the religion of his dad but he is not interested in the TRUTH!

It's often said that elders no dey lie in our local parlance.

Religion is conviction!

joyandfaith:



Act 11:26

and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great numbers of people. The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch.

This is lovely! Now answer the following questions:

1. Who named your religion christianity?

2. Who wrote acts of the apostles?

3. Who was talking in the above verse in third person speech?

4. What is the name of the first person who mentioned Christian in the above verse?

As usual! Case close.

AntiChristian:


This is lovely! Now answer the following questions:

1. Who named your religion christianity?

2. Who wrote acts of the apostles?

3. Who was talking in the above verse in third person speech?

4. What is the name of the first person who mentioned Christian in the above verse?

As usual! Case close.

Luke one of the discipline wrote acts of apostles.
Christian means Christ followers.
Your arguement is baseline.
Name can be assigned by any person or an organisation for different reasons based on certain criteria. Remember Nigeria was named by Lugard and his wife.

If you believe religion is conviction then that means all religionsts are right since they are convinced before taking the pain to practice religion.

The TRUTH differs from what you think, it gives concrete evidence of what the bearer is doing as well as yielding positive result everywhere it goes no matter the condition or circumstances of adherents you will feel the impact of TRUTH!

AntiChristian:

It's often said that elders no dey lie in our local parlance.
Religion is conviction!

enilove:
When we look critically at the problems of this world , we will discover it is rooted in lack of the fear of GOD AND LOVE.

This brings us to the question , which of the religions , if followed accordingly , will make us to fear God and have love for our fellow neighbours and the world at large ?

This religion is CHRISTIANITY.
The Bible teaches us to fear God and love our neighbours .

Lack of the fear of God and love is why there are :
Shedding of innocent blood .
Arm robbery
Adultery , fornication and other sexual immoralities.
Envying
Wrath
Idolatry
Hatred
Covetousness
Witchcraft
List
Strife etc
Romans 13:9 KJV
For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

1 John 4:18-20 KJV
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. [19] We love him, because he first loved us. [20] If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

WHICH RELIGION DO YOU THINK HAS SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEMS OF THIS WORLD?

The solution to this world problem lies in the adoption of a Universal Law to treat our issues. That Universal Law can only be found in ISLAM and no other Faith.

The earlier we understand this, the better for us all.

Islam has put forward the Glorious Qur'an. In it, your problems will be solved.

How many wives did God made for Adam?
What is the name of the first person who married two wives?

The name Christians was given to followers of Christ by observers who noticed their activities but does the name a group is called makes any sense when they're not making any positive impact in places where they are found?
Nobody cares what Allah calls his religion or adherents what matters is how well is the religion doing where it is allowed?

AntiChristian:

This is lovely! Now answer the following questions:
1. Who named your religion christianity?
2. Who wrote acts of the apostles?
3. Who was talking in the above verse in third person speech?
4. What is the name of the first person who mentioned Christian in the above verse?
As usual! Case close.

MaxInDHouse:
When Paul admonished Christians to pray so that our brothers in countries across may continue to serve our God with joy.
Someone may think Paul was asking Christians to pray in support of the rulers but when we consider other scriptures that reveals the person behind the world government it's clear that we are not to pray in support of the world's rulers.
First of all there are many contenders for seats of power under Satan's government therefore praying for one against another is tantamount to taking sides whereas we are no part of their government! John 17:14
Secondly Satan is the overall head we know nothing good can come out of their programs because the same rebellious spirit in Satan is what is in all those participating in his government.

When Paul admonished Christians to pray so that our brothers in countries across may continue to serve our God with joy.

In reality na same of same, you still pray for those in position of authority.


Someone may think Paul was asking Christians to pray in support of the rulers but when we consider other scriptures that reveals the person behind the world government it's clear that we are not to pray in support of the world's rulers

Some may think colouring the matter further. What has been established is pray for those in Authority.

After all the same Paul said in Romans 13

4 for it is God’s minister to you for your good. But if you are doing what is bad, be in fear, for it is not without purpose that it bears the sword. It is God’s minister, an avenger to express wrath* against the one practicing what is bad.
5 There is therefore compelling reason for you to be in subjection, not only on account of that wrath but also on account of your conscience.+ 6 That is why you are also paying taxes; for they are God’s public servants constantly serving this very purpose you.

Since you pray for the ministers you call God's ministers among you, is it out of place to pray for those God call by himself PUBLIC SERVANTS serving for everyone including you?

MaxInDHouse:
When Paul admonished Christians to pray so that our brothers in countries across may continue to serve our God with joy.
Someone may think Paul was asking Christians to pray in support of the rulers but when we consider other scriptures that reveals the person behind the world government it's clear that we are not to pray in support of the world's rulers.
First of all there are many contenders for seats of power under Satan's government therefore praying for one against another is tantamount to taking sides whereas we are no part of their government! John 17:14
Secondly Satan is the overall head we know nothing good can come out of their programs because the same rebellious spirit in Satan is what is in all those participating in his government.

Exactly!

Paul already clarify the reason 1 Timothy 2:1, 2

2b so that we may go on leading a calm and quiet life with complete godly devotion and seriousness.

We only pray to our God 'Jehovah' for help when this individuals in this world political offices made decisions that affect our Christian life and ministry

Lukuluku69:


The solution to this world problem lies in the adoption of a Universal Law to treat our issues. That Universal Law can only be found in ISLAM and no other Faith.

The earlier we understand this, the better for us all.

Islam has put forward the Glorious Qur'an. In it, your problems will be solved.

What is that universal law that can only be found in ISLAM?

haddeylium:

Exactly!

Paul already clarify the reason 1 Timothy 2:1, 2

2b so that we may go on leading a calm and quiet life with complete godly devotion and seriousness.

We only pray to our God 'Jehovah' for help when this individuals in this world political offices made decisions that affect our Christian life and ministry

Matter comes full circle...........when these individuals in these political offices. One way or another you pray for them.

achorladey:

Since you pray for the ministers you call God's ministers among you, is it out of place to pray for those God call by himself PUBLIC SERVANTS serving for everyone including you?

Prayer is the key power given to Christians and we must use it wisely if we expect desired results.
When we pray for those taking the lead amongst us such supplications is indefinite as the ministers will continue serving until they complete their earthly course and sleep in death. On the other hand those in worldly authorities are to be exchanged periodically due to Satan's initiative that each of his agents gets a share of the cake (turn to dominate)
So our prayers for them is to allow us continue worshiping our God as that's the only thing that makes us happy, we can't be praying for people who will soon be voted out whether they performed better than their predecessors or not!

MaxInDHouse:


Prayer is the key power given to Christians and we must use it wisely if we expect desired results.
When we pray for those taking the lead amongst us such supplications is indefinite as the ministers will continue serving until they complete their earthly course and sleep in death. On the other hand those in worldly authorities are to be exchanged periodically due to Satan's initiative that each of his agents gets a share of the cake (turn to dominate)
So our prayers for them is to allow us continue worshiping our God as that's the only thing that makes us happy, we can't be praying for people who will soon be voted out whether they performed better than their predecessors or not!

Simple and short answer................pray for those in position of AUTHORITY they are Gods pubic servants even when they become your enemies what did Jesus your leader say about your enemies, pray for them.

Obviously the OP has gotten the message so you are irrelevant here!

achorladey:

Simple and short answer................pray for those in position of AUTHORITY they are Gods pubic servants even when they become your enemies what did Jesus your leader say about your enemies, pray for them.

MaxInDHouse:
Obviously the OP has gotten the message so you are irrelevant here!

Is the above typed by you relevant?

enilove:

You are wrong.
Romans 13:1-2 KJV
Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
[2] Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
You are expected to play your role as a Christian wherever you find yourself. You must contribute your portion to better this life.
Jesus came to take away the control of the world from the hand of Satan. This was why Satan tried to tempt him.
This world is doomed for destruction but the assignment of Jesus is to save as many souls as possible.
Satan is ruling or directing the affairs of this world through human agents who are loyal to him.

Y’know there’s such a thing as misapplication of Scripture. Yes, Christians are to be subject to the government but if for example, the government said you should renounce your faith in God and that they want the nation to be built on Marxism and socialism? Would you remain subject to them then? That’s where Acts 5:29 comes in.

The reason why I replied to your comment was because in one of your topics here on NL, you made mention about the government implementing NIN, BVN and other biometric identification techniques and you even tried to tie it to Revelation 13:17 even though there was no relation because the book of Revelation was written in signs. Revelation 1:1
But that’s by the way.

My point is, the reason for the government implementing those systems is so as to organize a national database of the citizens and also to curb a lot of inconsistencies and fraud. It’s the same way Joseph the adoptive father of Jesus took Mary to get registered under the reign of Caesar(Luke 2:1-5) and yet you never hear that it was connected to some conspiracy. But here you are claiming that registering NIN and BVN is wrong? So how can you correlate what you said to the Romans 13:1 you’ve been quoting up and down?

But the will of God is for Christians to take their rightful position as rulers so as to direct the affairs of this world in way that will hinder Satan from harvesting more souls for destructions.

Can you help us find where the highlighted is found in the Bible? According to Jesus himself, the will of God is for God’s Kingdom to take control of the earth(Matthew 6:10) so where are you getting the highlighted from? Moreover, Jesus said his followers would be no part of the world(John 17:14-16) so how can you direct the affairs of something that you are NOT supposed to be part of in the first place?

Lukuluku69:


The solution to this world problem lies in the adoption of a Universal Law to treat our issues. That Universal Law can only be found in ISLAM and no other Faith.

The earlier we understand this, the better for us all.

Islam has put forward the Glorious Qur'an. In it, your problems will be solved.

How can this be when all Islam teaches its members is hatred and violence towards non Muslims ?

Likewise if any decided to follow the example of Muhammad ,he will be cruel more than cruelty :

Hadith
Narrated Abu Sa'id al-Khudri:

When the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) was distributing something, a man came towards him and bent down on him. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) struck him with a bough and his face was wounded. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said to him: Come and take retaliation. He said: no, I have forgiven, Messenger of Allah!.

Da'if (Al-Albani)
Sunan Abi Dawud 4536
In-book : Book 41, Hadith 43
English translation : Book 40, Hadith 4521
Abu Dawood

A true religion that would bring peace should teach its followers about peace , love and not violence , Justice, forgiveness etc.

Can you give evidence of these from your Qur'an ?

DappaD:


Y’know there’s such a thing as misapplication of Scripture. Yes, Christians are to be subject to the government but if for example, the government said you should renounce your faith in God and that they want the nation to be built on Marxism and socialism? Would you remain subject to them then? That’s where Acts 5:29 comes in.

The reason why I replied to your comment was because in one of your topics here on NL, you made mention about the government implementing NIN, BVN and other biometric identification techniques and you even tried to tie it to Revelation 13:17 even though there was no relation because the book of Revelation was written in signs. Revelation 1:1
But that’s by the way.

My point is, the reason for the government implementing those systems is so as to organize a national database of the citizens and also to curb a lot of inconsistencies and fraud. It’s the same way Joseph the adoptive father of Jesus took Mary to get registered under the reign of Caesar(Luke 2:1-5) and yet you never hear that it was connected to some conspiracy. But here you are claiming that registering NIN and BVN is wrong? So how can you correlate what you said to the Romans 13:1 you’ve been quoting up and down?



Can you help us find where the highlighted is found in the Bible? According to Jesus himself, the will of God is for God’s Kingdom to take control of the earth(Matthew 6:10) so where are you getting the highlighted from? Moreover, Jesus said his followers would be no part of the world(John 17:14-16) so how can you direct the affairs of something that you are NOT supposed to be part of in the first place?

When did God decide to bring his kingdom to pass in this world?
Was it not since Adam and Eve fell into sin of disobedience by consuming the forbidden fruit?
Did that stop God from installing kings and righteous people to rule Israel ?

Thank you for ignoring the point I made earlier. Next time you’d know better than misapplying Romans 13:1.

enilove:

When did God decide to bring his kingdom to pass in this world?
Was it not since Adam and Eve fell into sin of disobedience by consuming the forbidden fruit?
Did that stop God from installing kings and righteous people to rule Israel ?

“Let your Kingdom come” was a statement made by Jesus more than 4,000years after Adam and Eve sinned. Matthew 6:10

Remember that it was not God’s plan initially for his people to have any visible human king over them(Deuteronomy 17:14) because those kings would demand a lot from them to the point that it may even lead to oppression(1Samuel 8:11-18) but God allowed them anyway because it did not conflict with his purpose. God’s chosen kings on earth were from Saul to Zedekiah and then God made a very interesting statement at Ezekiel 21:26-27 regarding Zedekiah and someone else after him.
“This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: ‘Remove the turban, and take off the crown. This will not remain the same. Raise up the low one, and bring low the high one. A ruin, a ruin, a ruin I will make it. And it will not belong to anyone until the one who has the legal right comes, and I will give it to him”

Zedekiah was to be dethroned and someone else who has the legal right after him would sit on God’s throne and that person is none other than Jesus Christ. Daniel 7:13-14, Luke 1:31-33
Meaning that after Zedekiah is Jesus Christ only and none other so anybody today who feels God chose him to lead a particular nation in today’s world is only deceiving himself and those who would choose to believe him because his authority is actually from Satan the Devil. Luke 4:6

Lukuluku69:


The solution to this world problem lies in the adoption of a Universal Law to treat our issues. That Universal Law can only be found in ISLAM and no other Faith.

The earlier we understand this, the better for us all.

Islam has put forward the Glorious Qur'an. In it, your problems will be solved.

And shia and Sunni will start another Iran-Iraq war or turn the whole world to another Yemen. Or which is the truth sect- Shia or Sunni muslims.

DappaD:
Thank you for ignoring the point I made earlier. Next time you’d know better than misapplying Romans 13:1.


“Let your Kingdom come” was a statement made by Jesus more than 4,000years after Adam and Eve sinned. Matthew 6:10

Remember that it was not God’s plan initially for his people to have any visible human king over them(Deuteronomy 17:14) because those kings would demand a lot from them to the point that it may even lead to oppression(1Samuel 8:11-18) but God allowed them anyway because it did not conflict with his purpose. God’s chosen kings on earth were from Saul to Zedekiah and then God made a very interesting statement at Ezekiel 21:26-27 regarding Zedekiah and someone else after him.
“This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: ‘Remove the turban, and take off the crown. This will not remain the same. Raise up the low one, and bring low the high one. A ruin, a ruin, a ruin I will make it. And it will not belong to anyone until the one who has the legal right comes, and I will give it to him”

Zedekiah was to be dethroned and someone else who has the legal right after him would sit on God’s throne and that person is none other than Jesus Christ. Daniel 7:13-14, Luke 1:31-33
Meaning that after Zedekiah is Jesus Christ only and none other so anybody today who feels God chose him to lead a particular nation in today’s world is only deceiving himself and those who would choose to believe him because his authority is actually from Satan the Devil. Luke 4:6

Meaning these Bible scriptures below should be discarded ?

Romans 13:1-5 KJV
Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
[2] Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. [3] For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
[4] For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
[5] Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.

What is difficult in Paul's letter to Christians in Rome nah?
Well let's break it down verse by verse.
Remember that the world's power back then is the Roman empire so Paul specifically emphasized on being submissive to the authorities in his letter to our Christian brothers in ROME!

enilove:

Meaning these Bible scriptures below should be discarded ?
Romans 13:1-5 KJV
Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

All of us (Christians) should subject ourselves to the rules and order set by those in power for God has permitted them to be there.

[2] Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. [3] For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

Whoever join in protests against the government will be condemned by God, they're there to maintain law and order, so you will get praise from them if you're not part of those giving them headache.

[4] For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
[5] Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.

They are also trying to maintain law and order regarding right and wrong just as God purposed for all humans to know but if you're found wanting according to the law then you are on your own, so remain submissive not only when they're doing what is righteous but to maintain you neutrality as no part of their misdeeds!

budaatum:


Hello Hell. Long time no see. Hope you well? My mama nkọ? I hope she well too. Do know that you are not in any way required to love buda. It is buda who must love; and my darling mama too. My sincere deepest regards to her please.

Nonsense.

You are not in any way making any sense by mentioning my mother for no reason that is acceptable.

Ultimately,my mom is not happy,I am not happy and your posts are not beneficial.

MaxInDHouse:
What is difficult in Paul's letter to Christians in Rome nah?
Well let's break it down verse by verse.
Remember that the world's power back then is the Roman empire so Paul specifically emphasized on being submissive to the authorities in his letter to our Christian brothers in ROME!


All of us (Christians) should subject ourselves to the rules and order set by those in power for God has permitted them to be there.

Whoever join in protests against the government will be condemned by God, they're there to maintain law and order, so you will get praise from them if you're not part of those giving them headache.

They are also trying to maintain law and order regarding right and wrong just as God purposed for all humans to know but if you're found wanting according to the law then you are on your own, so remain submissive not only when they're doing what is righteous but to maintain you neutrality as no part of their misdeeds!

In summary .
God ordained , destined , appointed rulers for good works and everyone is expected to obey the laws they set up.

This negates your claims that God is not interested in who rules a Nation since the earthly systems lies in the hand of the devil and doomed for destruction.

OK i get you now, our God has nothing to do with their effort in making things better so we also don't participate in whatever they're working at, we only obey their instructions as long as it doesn't negates our beliefs!

enilove:

In summary .
God ordained , destined , appointed rulers for good works and everyone is expected to obey the laws they set up.
This negates your claims that God is not interested in who rules a Nation since the earthly systems lies in the hand of the devil and doomed for destruction.

HellVictorinho:


Nonsense.

You are not in any way making any sense by mentioning my mother for no reason that is acceptable.

Ultimately,my mom is not happy,I am not happy and your posts are not beneficial.

Now, why would our mother not be happy?

Have you been a bad son again?

Now answer the following questions:

Where is the Shahada in the koran?

Why do mûdslîmés need Hadith?

Why does the koran plagiarize from the Bible?

Why did allah ask Iblis to commit Shirk by worshipping and bowing down to Adam?

Why are nearly 200 verses missing from the koran?

How was Satan able to influence muhammad to reveal the Satanic verses?

AntiChristian:


This is lovely! Now answer the following questions:

1. Who named your religion christianity?

2. Who wrote acts of the apostles?

3. Who was talking in the above verse in third person speech?

4. What is the name of the first person who mentioned Christian in the above verse?

As usual! Case close.

budaatum:


Now, why would our mother not be happy?

Have you been a bad son again?

Am I the one that introduced her to the person that lied to her when she was a teenager so that she will marry him and give birth to seven children amidst poverty?

Am I the one that made all her brothers, sisters,uncles,aunts and in-laws incapable of helping her??


Am I the one that threatened in the name of wickedness to evict her from the symbol of wretchedness she calls an apartment last month??


Do you know the hardship I have also experienced since the day I was born?


What if I tell you that I,my mum,my dad and my siblings live apart

My family has foundational issues.



Your posts have not been helping matters.

budaatum:


Now, why would our mother not be happy?

Have you been a bad son again?

Am I the one that introduced her to the person that lied to her when she was a teenager so that she will marry him and give birth to seven children amidst poverty?

Am I the one that made all her brothers, sisters,uncles,aunts and in-laws incapable of helping her??


Am I the one that threatened in the name of wickedness to evict her from the symbol of wretchedness she calls an apartment last month?


Do you know the hardship I have also experienced since the day I was born?


What if I tell you that I,my mum,my dad and my siblings live apart

My family has foundational issues.



Your posts have not been helping matters.

joyandfaith:


And shia and Sunni will start another Iran-Iraq war or turn the whole world to another Yemen. Or which is the truth sect- Shia or Sunni muslims.

Shia, Sunni, does it matter? They both believe in the same Qur'an. Don't they?

And while Christians slaughtered each other thru the ages, didn't they believe in the same Bible and Jesus their Lord an Saviour?

enilove:


How can this be when all Islam teaches its members is hatred and violence towards non Muslims ?

Likewise if any decided to follow the example of Muhammad ,he will be cruel more than cruelty :

Hadith
Narrated Abu Sa'id al-Khudri:

When the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) was distributing something, a man came towards him and bent down on him. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) struck him with a bough and his face was wounded. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said to him: Come and take retaliation. He said: no, I have forgiven, Messenger of Allah!.

Da'if (Al-Albani)
Sunan Abi Dawud 4536
In-book : Book 41, Hadith 43
English translation : Book 40, Hadith 4521
Abu Dawood

A true religion that would bring peace should teach its followers about peace , love and not violence , Justice, forgiveness etc.

Can you give evidence of these from your Qur'an ?

So, you are saying no one Christian have killed another Christan?

No supposedly Christian Nation have fought a war with another Christian Nation?

In the Quran you have a UNIVERSAL LAW. Virtually every thing has been lesgislated upon. No room for man made Laws.

Open the Qur'an and edify yourself.

achorladey:


What is that universal law that can only be found in ISLAM?

Open the Qur'an and edify yourself.

HellVictorinho:



Am I the one that introduced her to the person that lied to her when she was a teenager so that she will marry him and give birth to seven children amidst poverty?

Am I the one that made all her brothers, sisters,uncles,aunts and in-laws incapable of helping her??


Am I the one that threatened in the name of wickedness to evict her from the symbol of wretchedness she calls an apartment last month?


Do you know the hardship I have also experienced since the day I was born?


What if I tell you that I,my mum,my dad and my siblings live apart

My family has foundational issues.


Your posts have not been helping matters.

I have responded to you in the appropriate place so as not to derail this thread with your hell. https://www.nairaland.com/6476995/what-prefer#102201541