Ibime:


I will insult you anyhow I want for being an eediot. If you don't want insults, don't come here and type rubbish. From a fool who wanted Chelsea to lose UCL final so Mount will not win UCL, you deserve any insult that comes your way. It's better to shüt up if you did not witness an era than type rubbish. Someone who boasted of fücking his uncles wife is asking for respect in conversations.

Ibime:


I will insult you anyhow I want for being an eediot. If you don't want insults, don't come here and type rubbish. From a fool who wanted Chelsea to lose UCL final so Mount will not win UCL, you deserve any insult that comes your way. It's better to shüt up if you did not witness an era than type rubbish. Someone who boasted of fücking his uncles wife is asking for respect in conversations.

do you have evidence to back this claim

I specifically said I wouldn't mind if we don't win, I didn't say that I don't want us to win, big difference between what I said and what you are pushing

I don't care about the insults, nothing you have said or will ever say can change or alter my life in anyway, I just don't like it especially when i'm trying to explain something, you are just pushing me to ignore the subject and start exchanging insults with you

Believe what I say or don't, doesn't really matter, it's a statement of fact, it's not my opinion.

Havertz10:
do you have evidence to back this claim

I specifically said I wouldn't mind if we don't win, I didn't say that I don't want us to win, big difference between what I said and what you are pushing

I don't care about the insults, nothing you have said or will ever say can change or alter my life in anyway, I just don't like it especially when i'm trying to explain something, you are just pushing me to ignore the subject and start exchanging insults with you

Believe what I say or don't, doesn't really matter, it's a statement of fact, it's not my opinion.

How can you have an opinion on an era you didn't witness?

You are too opinionated. Shut your mouth and speak only on what you witnessed and don't disrespect our legends of the 2000s.

You don't see me typing crap about the early 90s or 80s that I didn't witness. No Wikipedia can teach me how good or bad Gullit or Van Bastien were in their prime and would be irritating to those who witnessed them.

Learn to speak only on what you know and you will go far in life. Over yarn on what you don't know and people will mark you down as an overopinionated eediot.

BlueMann:


For God's sake, what do you mean 'found wanting'? Did he commit a crime? Did he decide to run away?

Pesin carry Injury - he even tried to play on with it but couldn't continue, and you're here yarning about being found wanting. So he should have played on, just to prove a point to one egbon somewhere?

Na wa o. Even for you, this is a stretch.

Last season he was found wanting in a final where he played all 90mins and lost
This season he left after 35mins and his team won when he was away
When your team wins when you are off the field and lose when you are on it
Draw your own conclusions

BlueAngel444:
to you league titles are not major or is this another law of amalionics theory of evaluation, it therefore means that Fraudiola aka baldiola is not only lacking hair but also bald in his trophy cabinet

Congrats to Silva for winning league titles, they are important as well

WHen will he win the world cup or CL while on the field

BlueAngel444:
something Messi and Lewandowski have failed to do with Country

Lewndoski and Messi won the biggest trophy at club level while on the field

Can we say the same for Silva?

airmark:


When will Fraudiola win a major trophy without Messi?

When will Silva win a major trphy on the field

popizaino:



Until you can show me Chelsea UCL trophy in the previous season without Thiago Silva,then you deserve to accept this L and quit disturbing the thread.

Chelsea also won the CL this season with Thiago Silva on the bench for most of the game

MorataFC:
Oga raudeuter is Ronaldo also a carry along because he too didn't play 90mins in euro 2016 final.

Ronaldo won several big trophies playing all 90mins. Multiple CL titles

popizaino:


You are right. I didnt even remember kante but Azpilicueta came to my mind together with Thiago Silva . This new Rudiger will actually sit on the bench sha. Only those who started watching us today will have something different to say .

This guy found a way to smuggle Thiago Silva into it, Silva that has played one below average season for Chelsea will suddenly make Chelsea best 11

You go don do fayawo for Seme border before abi you are one of those smugglers who roughride tokunbo cars across border

Amoto94:
Havertz10 dead the argument that Chelsea teams of early to mid 2000s weren't dominant, they were dominant that teams like Barca and Bayern always pray to avoid meeting them in UCL. Also dont say UCL dont have quality teams back then because this is not true, in Valencia they have David Villa, Silva, Albeda, Villareal you will mention Marcos Senna, Riquelme, Madrid you have them Figo, Zidane Raul, Hierro, Salgado, in Barca you have Ronaldinho, Deco, Guily, Eto'o, Inter you have Zlatan, Adriano, Crespo, in Milan you have Inzaghi, Kaka, Pirlo, Shevchenko, Gattuso, Cafu, Maldini, in Bayern you have Ballack, Ze Roberto, Lucio, Kahn, in Juventus, you have Nedved, Trezeguet, Cannavaro, Camoranesi, Zambrotta, in Roma you have Totti, in Lyon you have Juninho, John Carew.

Bayern post 2010 was stronger than Bayern in the 2000
Barcelona between 2008 and 2016 was stronger than Barcelona of the early 2000
I will say Madrid of the past 10yrs was stronger than Madrid of the 2000s slightly
Man Utd 2008 to 2013 was stronger than Man Utd pre 2008
Teams like PSG and City have also gotten stronger

Villareal was not better than Sevilla of recent times
Valencia of those times was not better than Atletico of recent times

I will say Chelsea got weaker if we compare the 2000s vs recent years
While teams like Milan and Arsenal got poorer significantly

Ibime:
James body type is more suited to a central position. He is too big to make recovery runs after running down the wing. He does not have speed endurance to get back cos his body is too big for that. He has very good technique in shielding and passing the ball and that is evidenced by his secondary position as a DM. RCB will suit him fine, however I don't think that's our first priority. My own is when Jorginho is being replaced and when are we buying a striker

Lol...

U should already know by now that TT is a fan

Ibime:


Hakimi is not my priority at that price. I heard Traore is available for like £40m. Signing Traore can keep the 3-4-3 or play wings in a 4-3-3 for more flexibility while Hakimi reduces the options.

When improving a team, you start with the weakest area first. That's Jorginho and a striker as far as I am concerned before putting £60m in a wingback. Between James, Azpi and Livramento, I am not too concerned about that position.

The last time we went shopping in order to keep a 3-4-3 formation going, we had our most disastrous transfer window ever. That was the year we signed Zappacosta and Emerson as wimgbacks to keep the 3-4-3 going. Both were useless in a conventional back 4 when Sarri tried to switch the formation the following year. We also added Morata, Donkeyoko and Drinkbleach that year.

No he doesnt. He plays RW when needed

And can also displace Chilwell on the left

I dont understand what the whole sentiment around James at RWB is about.

Is it the same guy we watched last season? Always so negative in the final 3rd.

I pretty much watch most of our matches with a headset and can tell u how TT screams his name a whole lot in disapproval in our games. There are times he sounds frustrated as Reecey (that's what he calls him) repeats the same thing when he gets to the final cm

I'm not even convinced with him as a RCB. He suffers from lapse in concentration and judgement occasionally. The problem however with this Hakimi dude; Well from a few videos I watched he's a bit suspect defensively. Also at that price, I would balk

raumdeuter:


When will Silva win a major trphy on the field

Shame on you.

raumdeuter:


Lewndoski and Messi won the biggest trophy at club level while on the field

Can we say the same for Silva?

chum Motip or whatever that striker is would have won it on the field because added no value that day and should thank Coman for being a threat all night and securing the trophy for him.

raumdeuter:

[s]Barcelona between 2008 and 2016 was stronger than Barcelona of the early 2000
I will say Madrid of the past 10yrs was stronger than Madrid of the 2000s slightly[/s]

If we start with how Madrid dominated your team now, that's when you will start showing us pictures of how Ronaldo scored an offside goal and other ojoros they used to win UCLs in the last 10yrs.

Those that watched Beckam, Figo, Zidane, Ronaldo balling on the pitch at the same time will laugh at your wack judgement.

Barcelona, the UEFAlona era?

OJURONGBE1:


My thoughts exactly. Wasting £60m on a right back, whereas that money could get a decent creative midfielder to improve our team.

Creativity in a 3-4-3 comes mainly from the wide men, in those wing back LM/RM positions and the half spaces attackers behind the striker and not usually from the 2DMs or box to box CM in that formation. Jorginho/Matic/Fabregas could play the right pass that creates a scoring opportunity but to move into and make something happen will expose the back, Kante gets away with it because he is fast. Kovacic in that position wou hardly dribble or venture forward so much. So it's down to the wing back roles an if a team using 3-4-3 lacks adequate creativity from the flanks and attackers it will generate fewer scoring opportunities.

Whether na £60m for Hakimi or £40m for Traore e dey important, chelsea go play reach 60 games next season. And that position dey consume energy.

D Clan.

Ibime:


2005 to 2009, not one UCL final was played without an EPL team present.

2005 - Liverpool
2006 - Arsenal
2007 - Liverpool
2008 - Chelsea and Man Utd
2009 - Man UTD

If EPL was poor, the rest of European leagues must have been utter garbage.

Stop supporting that clown showing the foolishness of his youth.

The quality of EPL teams in general, not the big 4. But now, other smaller things have been equiped to compete slightly fairly to the bigger teams hence the improved quality of which I talk about.

What am I even saying... It should be glaringly obvious to you that the competition and quality of EPL has improved courtesy of TV right funds.

popizaino:



The quality wasn't poor but the competition was stiffer.

The quality was. That was why it was easier to predict the outcome of games. There is a direct relationship between competition and quality in football. The more competitive a league is, the more quality they show. Leagues with low competition are generally known not to play quality football.

If Top 4 was guaranteed for some set of teams, then other smaller teams don't have quality, hence, can't compete

airmark:


If we start with how Madrid dominated your team now, that's when you will start showing us pictures of how Ronaldo scored an offside goal and other ojoros they used to win UCLs in the last 10yrs.

Those that watched Beckam, Figo, Zidane, Ronaldo balling on the pitch at the same time will laugh at your wack judgement.

Barcelona, the UEFAlona era?

The Galactico's Era was not successful. Always getting eliminated in the round of 16 for six consecutive seasons.

raumdeuter:


Bayern post 2010 was stronger than Bayern in the 2000
Barcelona between 2008 and 2016 was stronger than Barcelona of the early 2000
I will say Madrid of the past 10yrs was stronger than Madrid of the 2000s slightly
Man Utd 2008 to 2013 was stronger than Man Utd pre 2008
Teams like PSG and City have also gotten stronger

Villareal was not better than Sevilla of recent times
Valencia of those times was not better than Atletico of recent times

I will say Chelsea got weaker if we compare the 2000s vs recent years
While teams like Milan and Arsenal got poorer significantly

I agree that Chelsea got weaker but I wouldn't agree that Chelsea team in the 2000s exerted dominance that's the crux of the entire argument

They won the league twice in 10 years, in a league that was relatively weak

They got to only 1 final, and back then the main competitors in the champions league mostly appeared in the semi final, I can't find a single metric that shows their dominance asides the names of the players and the hype that people built around them

Havertz10:
period of dominance and they only made the final once

I have repeatedly stong champions league teams was poor then but you prefer to pretend and only see things your way, we were meeting small teams in R16 now you meet top teams, game is more competitive now

Also Epl teams are struggling now because the premier league is more difficult, you can't rest players for champions league games, teams are no longer afraid of big teams, I have tried using different metrics to explain this thing for you to see but you prefer to work with tm closer to fans they no longer look an find f

The difference between then and now is that we have teams who have evolved to become tough and formidable in europe. Back in the day, the likes of napoli, atalanta, psg, mancity, spurs, atletico madrid, lille, leipzig were no where to be found among elite sides in europe. Back then you had real madrid thrashing teams like leicester city six nil and nothing will happen

swiz123:


The quality was. That was why it was easier to predict the outcome of games. There is a direct relationship between competition and quality in football. The more competitive a league is, the more quality they show. Leagues with low competition are generally known not to play quality football.

If Top 4 was guaranteed for some set of teams, then other smaller teams don't have quality, hence, can't compete

exactly, look at the big picture, league back then was poor, same argument comes up when lebron James is compared to Micheal Jordan, although they are individual players but you have to consider externalities

Sports evolve, its supposed comparatively get better not worst, the present will always be better than the past

Mecka:
The difference between then and now is that we have teams who have evolved to become tough and formidable in europe. Back in the day, the likes of napoli, atalanta, psg, mancity, spurs, atletico madrid, lille, leipzig were no where to be found among elite sides in europe. Back then you had real madrid thrashing teams like leicester city six nil

100% I think that its the mystic players had back then, no internet and access to data can create the illusion that players are gods and that was a golden era

Mecka:
The difference between then and now is that we have teams who have evolved to become tough and formidable in europe. Back in the day, the likes of napoli, atalanta, psg, mancity, spurs, atletico madrid, lille, leipzig were no where to be found among elite sides in europe. Back then you had real madrid thrashing teams like leicester city six nil and nothing will happen

So nowadays Real Madrid don't trash teams like Leicester city Six nil

Lille, Napoli, Leipzig,Spurs, Atalanta
Wait so these clubs in bold are Europe elites now? Nigga stop it

raumdeuter:


Bayern post 2010 was stronger than Bayern in the 2000
Barcelona between 2008 and 2016 was stronger than Barcelona of the early 2000
I will say Madrid of the past 10yrs was stronger than Madrid of the 2000s slightly
Man Utd 2008 to 2013 was stronger than Man Utd pre 2008
Teams like PSG and City have also gotten stronger

Villareal was not better than Sevilla of recent times
Valencia of those times was not better than Atletico of recent times

I will say Chelsea got weaker if we compare the 2000s vs recent years
While teams like Milan and Arsenal got poorer significantly

nooo! I disagree. Aha What are you saying. A man U that managed to win two epl titles despite all odds is no where near a man U that won one ucl, multiple league and cup laurels including three back to back to back premiership titles with ease.

raumdeuter:


Last season he was found wanting in a final where he played all 90mins and lost
This season he left after 35mins and his team won when he was away
When your team wins when you are off the field and lose when you are on it
Draw your own conclusions

Chelsea without Thiago Silva- R16 with disgraceful scoreline

Chelsea with Thiago Silva- European champion


Please draw your conclusion.

raumdeuter:


Congrats to Silva for winning league titles, they are important as well

WHen will he win the world cup or CL while on the field

Keep silva out of this,it has nothing to do with the European champion.

raumdeuter:


When will Silva win a major trphy on the field

When will you show us Chelsea ucl trophy for 2019/2020 season without Thiago Silva?

raumdeuter:


Chelsea also won the CL this season with Thiago Silva on the bench for most of the game

Thiago Silva wasn't on the bench in the semis and in the finals. That is more important