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Iramure

That question earned me a heavy knock from my Sunday school teacher when I was a kid. It just doesn’t make any sense! God as an omniscient being should’ve known that Lucifer will cause troubles for it later on. God should've forewent creating Lucifer.

Let’s assume God was too busy to look into the future and discover Lucifer’s antecedents; when Lucifer turned to satan, of all the planets in existence, why choose earth where God’s supposedly beloved Adam and Eve were lounging

As for those saying that God was trying to test us by leaving the tree of knowledge of good and bad in the garden of eden, I will only say that that kind of thinking is twisted. No offense. Will you keep a harmful stuff in the reach of your beloved when you as an omniscient person that sees tomorrow knows that the satan you created and placed in the same place as your beloved will trick them into ingesting same?

Na wah.

kingxsamz:
It's only a mumu that'll have the opportunity to know the outcome of his actions, but choose not to use it.

Only an Evil man will fail to see that the the choice not to excercise that power gives us an opportunity to please Him for If He knows already, then there would be no place to please Him meaning no praise, honour, blessings and all the good things that we desire and need but an Evil man will not see that but calls Good, mumu!

See your Evil self!

truespeak:
Only an Evil man will fail to see that the the choice not to excercise that power gives us an opportunity to please Him for If He knows already, then there would be no place to please Him meaning no praise, honour, blessings and all the good things that we desire and need but an Evil man will not see that but calls Good, mumu!

See your Evil self!

Mumu analogy.
Go and put a loaded gun in your sitting room and warn your child not to touch it because you want to derive some kind of fetish pleasure from his obedience.
Even Buhari wey be mumu no fit mumu reach that level.
Oga say na "please Him",

Ola17:
Iramure

That question earned me a heavy knock from my Sunday school teacher when I was a kid. It just doesn’t make any sense! God as an omniscient being should’ve known that Lucifer will cause troubles for it later on. God should've forewent creating Lucifer.

Let’s assume God was too busy to look into the future and discover Lucifer’s antecedents; when Lucifer turned to satan, of all the planets in existence, why choose earth where God’s supposedly beloved Adam and Eve were lounging

As for those saying that God was trying to test us by leaving the tree of knowledge of good and bad in the garden of eden, I will only say that that kind of thinking is twisted. No offense. Will you keep a harmful stuff in the reach of your beloved when you as an omniscient person that sees tomorrow knows that the satan you created and placed in the same place as your beloved will trick them into ingesting same?

Na wah.

Seriously? The Sunday school teacher gave you a knock?

kingxsamz:

Mumu analogy.
Go and put a loaded gun in your sitting room and warn your child not to touch it because you want to derive some kind of fetish pleasure from his obedience.
Even Buhari wey be mumu no fit mumu reach that level.
Oga say na "please Him",

change of post for the issue between us was "All Knowing" which I have answered and seeing that there is "No Road" , now you run to bring up "Loaded gun" which was not in issue between us, therefore you lose! settling the issue between us!

kingxsamz:
Seriously? The Sunday school teacher gave you a knock?

No kidding. Very traumatizing experience.

iramure:
I am sorry, your response carried no understanding. I need a mature response

You want mature response to childishness? You overate your question.

Well, I know mature response will be the one you determined by your little knowledge of the discuss.

I will advise you go and read properly before coming out to ask questions. This is what proper minds do. Don't ask questions that the basis is already faulty. As you pointed to maturity, I expect you know what that means.

So present mature argument. Superior and well coordinated and researched argument. Not beer parlor explanation of the scriptures that you know nothing about.


There is nothing that shows in your question that you read or know anything about the Bible you want to dabbled into.

This already placed you in a bad light. So do the needful, pick up the book and read then ask the right question, not one based on falsehood and lack of understanding.

kingxsamz:
Na only mumu no dey look ahead.
It's Only a mumu father who wouldn't look ahead to protect his child/children from impending harm.
It's as simple as that.

Always making their god sound like a bumbling buffoon.

LordReed:
Always making their god sound like a bumbling buffoon.

The lame excuses they come up with baffles me. Making their god look foolish in the process. Nawa.

truespeak:
change of post for the issue between us was "All Knowing" which I have answered and seeing that there is "No Road" , now you run to bring up "Loaded gun" which was not in issue between us, therefore you lose! settling the issue between us!

This one don forget the title of this thread.
It's three options here.
Either your god isn't omniscient, your god planned it all along, or your god na just complete mumu.
Thanks for confirming that ur god is a mumu.

...

Ola17:
No kidding. Very traumatizing experience.

Well, that's what happens when you try to make use of your brain in the church.
Such is not allowed.

heniford2:
I ask the same question why would God create a tree in eden knowing full well that it is not good for us to take it yet he ask us not to eat if we do eat it that we shall die why not remove it all and do not tell us another did God marry to begot Jesus how was Jesus take became God's son because i no understand another is why heaven and hell how come

the tree of good and evil wasn't a bad tree on its own.

Liposure:
the tree of good and evil wasn't a bad tree on its own.

so why did God had drive Adam and Eve out of the garden

LordReed:
I tell you. Even Marvel's writers can craft a more reasonable tale. LoL!

That's why it's not a tale, don't you think? It is an experience. It is eternal life.

Image123:
That's why it's not a tale, don't you think? It is an experience. It is eternal life.

Lagbaja Nothing For You!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd-MeDtmIbA

MISHIGAS!

FOOLS PRESUME THAT THEY CAN SAY ANYTHING THEY LIKE ABOUT GOD, WITHOUT IRREVOCABLY CHANGING THEIR ETERNAL DESTINY, AND RULING OUT ANY PRESENT OR FUTURE CHANCE OF A FAVORABLE RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD!

[color=silver].[/color]     EXODUS 20:1-7.

AND God Spake
all these Words,
Saying,

2. "I (am) The LORD thy God,
Which have brought thee
out of The Land of Egypt,
out of The House of Bondage.

3. "Thou shalt have
no other gods before Me.

4. "Thou shalt not
make unto thee
any graven image,
or any likeness (of any thing)
that (is) in the Earth beneath,
or that (is) in the Water
under the Earth:
5. "Thou shalt not
bow down thyself to them,
nor serve them:
for I The LORD thy God
(am) a Jealous God,
visiting the iniquity
of the fathers
upon the third and fourth (generation)
of them that Hate Me.
6. "And shewing Mercy
unto thousands of them
which Love Me,
and Keep My Commandments.

7. "Thou shalt not
take The Name
of The LORD thy God
in vain;
for The LORD will not
hold him guiltless
that taketh His Name
in vain."

GOD HOLDS EVERY HUMAN ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE INIQUITIES COMMITTED BY THEIR PARENTS, THEIR GRANDPARENTS, AND THEIR GREAT-GRANDPARENTS.

[color=silver].[/color] NUMBERS 15:27-31.

27. "And if any man Sin
through Ignorance,
then he shall bring
a She Goat of the first year
for a Sin Offering.
28. "And the Priest
shall make an Atonement
for the Soul
that Sinneth Ignorantly,
when he Sinneth
by Ignorance
before The LORD,
to make an Atonement
for him,
and it shall be
forgiven him.
29. " Ye shall have one Law
for him that Sinneth Ignorantly
(both for) him
that is born
among the Children of Israel,
and for the Stranger
that sojourneth
among them.
30. "But the Soul
that doeth
(ought) presumptuously,
(whether he be)
born in the land,
or a Stranger,
the same reproacheth
The LORD;
and that Soul
shall be cut off
from among his people.
31. "Because he hath
despised The Word
of The LORD,
and hath broken
His Commandment,
that Soul
shall utterly be cut off;
his Iniquity
(shall be) upon him."

[color=silver].[/color] LEVITICUS 24:10-16.

10. And the son
of an Israelitish woman,
whose father was
an Egyptian,
went out among
the Children of Israel:
and this son of
the Israelitish woman
and a Man of Israel
strove together in the camp;
11. And the Israelitish
woman's son blasphemed
The Name of The LORD,
and cursed.
And they brought him
unto Moses:
[and his mother's name
was Shelomith,
the daughter of Dibri,
of the tribe of Dan:]
12. And they put him in ward,
that the Mind of The LORD
might be shewed them.
13. And The LORD Spake
unto Moses,
Saying,

14. "Bring forth him
that hath cursed
without the camp;
and let all that heard him
lay their hands upon his head,
and let all the Congregation
stone him.
15. "And thou shalt speak
unto the Children of Israel,
saying,

'WHOSOEVER CURSETH
HIS GOD
SHALL BEAR HIS SIN.'

16. "And he that blasphemeth
The Name of The LORD,
he shall surely be
put to Death,
and all the Congregation
shall certainly stone him:
as well the Stranger
as he that is Born in the land,
when he blasphemeth
The Name of The LORD,
shall be put to death."

I DIDN'T MAKE UP THESE RULES- WHY DOES EVERYONE TREAT MY POSTS AS IF I MADE THESE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, AND THEIR APPLICATIONS UP?

iramure:
I came across two ladies who identified themselves with a popular penticoastal church in Nigeria. After series of preaching urging me to accept the white jesus who died for my sake and reject the devil who is responsible for all the evil in this world. I then asked them that why is it hard for the Almighty God to eliminate the devil so that the world can be at peace?.

GOD CREATED MAN FOR ONE SPECIFIC PURPOSE- NAMELY, TO CONTROL THE EARTH AND ITS CREATURES.

[color=silver].[/color] GENESIS 1:26-31.

26. And God Said,

"Let us make Man
in Our Image,
after Our Likeness:
and let them have Dominion
over the Fish of the Sea,
and over the Fowl of the Air,
and over the Cattle,
and over all the Earth,
and over every creeping thing
that creepeth upon the Earth."

27. So God created Man
in His Own Image,
in The Image of God created He him;
male and female created He them.
28. And God Blessed them,
and God Said unto them,

"Be fruitful, and multiply,
and replenish the Earth,
and subdue It:
and have Dominion
over the Fish of the Sea,
and over the Fowl of the Air,
and over every Living Thing
that moveth upon the Earth."

29. And God Said,

"Behold, I have given you
every herb bearing seed,
which is upon
the Face of all the Earth,
and every tree,
in the which is the fruit
of a tree yielding seed;
to you it shall be for meat.

30. And to every Beast
of the Earth,
and to every Fowl of the air,
and to every thing
that creepeth upon the Earth,
wherein there is life,
I have given
every green herb for meat:"

and it was so.
31. And God Saw every thing
that He had made,
and, behold, it was Very Good.
And the evening and the morning
were the sixth day.

TO THAT END, MAN IS CHARGED NOT TO BEHAVE LIKE THE ANIMALS, BY CONTROLLING WHAT WE TAKE INTO OURSELVES.

It is only when Mankind does that, that the Earth can be at Peace.

iramure:
None could provide any convincing answer.

[color=silver].[/color] MATTHEW 12:22-45.

22. Then was brought unto him
one possessed with a Devil,
blind, and dumb:
and he healed him,
insomuch that
the Blind and Dumb
both spake and saw.
23. And all the people were amazed,
and said,

"IS NOT THIS
THE SON OF DAVID?"

24. But when
the Pharisees heard it,
they said,

"This fellow doth not
cast out Devils,
but by Beelzebub
the Prince of the Devils."

25. And Jesus
knew their thoughts,
and Said unto them,

"Every kingdom
divided against itself
is brought to desolation;
and every city or house
divided against itself
shall not stand:
26. "And if Satan cast out Satan,
he is divided against himself;
how shall then his Kingdom stand?
27. "And if I by Beelzebub
cast out Devils,
by whom do your children
cast them out?
Therefore they shall be your judges.
28. "But if I cast out Devils
by The Spirit of God,
then The Kingdom of God
is come unto you.
29. "Or else how can one
enter into a Strong Man's House,
and spoil his goods,
except he first
bind the Strong Man?
And then he will spoil his House.
30. "He that is not with me
is against me;
and he that
gathereth not with me
scattereth abroad.
31. "Wherefore I Say unto you,

'ALL MANNER
OF SIN AND BLASPHEMY
SHALL BE FORGIVEN
UNTO MEN:
BUT THE BLASPHEMY
AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST
SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN
UNTO MEN.'

32. "And whosoever speaketh
a Word against
The Son of Man,
it shall be forgiven him:
but whosoever speaketh
against The Holy Ghost,
it shall not be forgiven him,
neither in this World,
neither in the World to come.
33. "Either make the tree good,
and his fruit good;
or else make the tree corrupt,
and his fruit corrupt:
for the tree is known
by his fruit.
34. "O Generation of Vipers,
how can ye, being Evil,
speak Good Things?
For out of the Abundance
of the heart
the mouth speaketh.
35. "A Good Man
out of the Good Treasure
of the heart
bringeth forth Good Things:
and an Evil Man
out of the Evil Treasure
bringeth forth Evil Things.
36.But I Say unto you,

'THAT EVERY IDLE WORD
THAT MEN SHALL SPEAK,
THEY SHALL GIVE
ACCOUNT THEREOF
IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.'

37. "For by thy Words
thou shalt be Justified,
and by thy Words thou shalt be Condemned."
38. Then certain of the scribes
and of the Pharisees answered,
saying,

"Master,
we would see
a Sign from thee."

39. But he Answered
and Said unto them,

"An Evil and
Adulterous Generation
seeketh after a Sign;
and there shall no Sign
be given to it,
but The Sign of
the Prophet Jonas:
40. "For as Jonas was
three days and three nights
in the whale's belly;
so shall the Son of Man
be three days
and three nights
in the heart of the Earth.

41. "The men of Nineveh
shall rise in Judgment with this Generation,
and shall Condemn It:
because they repented
at the Preaching of Jonas;
and, behold,
a Greater than Jonas is here.
42. "The Queen of the South
shall rise up in the Judgment
with this Generation,
and shall Condemn It:
for she came from
The Uttermost Parts of the Earth
to hear The Wisdom of Solomon;
and, behold,
a Greater than Solomon is here.
43. "When the unclean spirit
is gone out of a man,
he walketh through dry places,
seeking rest,
and findeth none.
44. "Then he saith,

'I WILL RETURN INTO MY HOUSE
FROM WHENCE I CAME OUT;'

and when he is come,
he findeth it empty,
swept, and garnished.
45. "Then goeth he,
and taketh with himself
seven other spirits
more wicked than himself,
and they enter in and dwell there:
and the last state of that man
is worse than the first.
Even so shall it be also
unto this Wicked Generation."

IT IS THE DUTY OF PARENTS TO TEACH THEIR CHILDREN HOW TO SERVE GOD, BY CONTROLLING THEMSELVES, FIRST, AND THE REST OF THE EARTH.

Ignorance of The Law of God is no excuse.

UPON HEARING THE GOSPEL, IT IS THE DUTY OF SINNERS TO REPENT IMMEDIATELY.

The Wicked have no Right to negotiate with God, and demand to be satisfied, before doing their DUTY, and REPENTING of their Sins.

iramure:
Now why would Alimghty and caring God choose to kill his only begotten son

[color=silver].[/color] EXODUS 20:16.

16. "Thou shalt not
bear False Witness
against thy Neighbour."

[color=silver].[/color] DEUTERONOMY 17:6.

6. At the mouth of two witnesses,
or three witnesses,
shall he that
is worthy of death
be put to death;
but at the mouth
of one witness
he shall not be
put to death.

[color=silver].[/color] DEUTERONOMY 19:15-21.

15. One witness shall not
rise up against a man for any Iniquity,
or for any Sin,
in any sin that he Sinneth:
at the mouth of two witnesses,
or at the mouth
of three witnesses,
shall the matter
be established.
16. If a False Witness
rise up against any man
to testify against him
that which is wrong;
17. Then both the men,
between whom
the controversy is,
shall stand before The LORD,
before the priests
and the judges,
which shall be in those days;
18. And the judges
shall make diligent inquisition:
and, behold,
if the witness be
a False Witness,
and hath testified falsely
against his brother;
19. Then shall ye do unto him,
as he had thought
to have done
unto his brother:
so shalt thou put
the Evil away
from among you.
20. And those which remain
shall hear, and fear,
and shall henceforth
commit no more
any such Evil among you.
21. And thine eye
shall not pity;
but life shall go for life,
eye for eye,
tooth for tooth,
hand for hand,
foot for foot.

BEARING FALSE WITNESS AGAINST MAN CARRIES SERIOUS PENALTIES-HOW MUCH MORE, FALSE WITNESS AGAINST GOD?

[color=silver] MATTHEW 21:33-46.[

33. "Hear another Parable:
There was a certain householder,
which planted a vineyard,
and hedged it round about,
and digged a winepress in it,
and built a tower,
and let it out to husbandmen,
and went into a far country:
34. "And when the time
of the fruit drew near,
he sent his servants
to the husbandmen,
that they might receive
the fruits of it.
35. "And the husbandmen
took his servants,
and beat one,
and killed another,
and stoned another.
36. "Again, he sent other servants
more than the first:
and they did unto them likewise.
37. "But last of all
he sent unto them his son,
saying,

"THEY WILL REVERENCE MY SON."

38. "But when the husbandmen
saw the son,
they said among themselves,

'THIS IS THE HEIR;
LET US KILL HIM;
AND LET US SEIZE
ON HIS INHERITANCE.'/b]

39. "And they caught him,
and cast him out of the vineyard,
and slew him.
40. "When the lord therefore
of the vineyard cometh,
what will he do
unto those husbandmen?"

41. They say unto him,

"He will miserably destroy
those wicked men,
and will let out his vineyard
unto other husbandmen,
which shall render him the fruits
in their seasons."

42. Jesus Saith unto them,

"Did ye never
read in the Scriptures,

[b]'THE STONE WHICH
THE BUILDERS REJECTED,
THE SAME IS BECOME
THE HEAD OF THE CORNER:
THIS IS THE LORD"S DOING,
AND IT IS MARVELLOUS
IN OUR EYES?'

43. "Therefore Say I unto you,

'THE KINGDOM OF GOD
SHALL BE TAKEN FROM YOU,
AND GIVEN TO A NATION
BRINGING FORTH
THE FRUITS THEREOF.'

44. "And whosoever shall fall
on this stone
shall be broken:
but on whomsoever
it shall fall,
it will grind him
to powder."

45. And when the Chief
Priests and Pharisees
had heard his Parables,
they perceived that
he Spake of them.
46. But when they sought
to lay hands on him,
they feared the multitude,
because they took him
for a Prophet."

WHEN DID YOU WITNESS GOD KILLING HIS OWN SON, AND WHO WITNESSED THIS SPECTACLE WITH YOU?

[color=silver].[/color] MATTHEW 7:1-12.

"JUDGE not,
that ye be not judged.
2. "For with what judgment
ye judge,
ye shall be judged:
and with what measure
ye mete,
it shall be
measured to you again.
3. "And why beholdest thou
the mote that is in
thy Brother's eye,
but consideredst not
the beam that is in
thine own eye?
4. "Or how wilt thou
say to thy Brother,

' LET ME PULL OUT
THE MOTE
OUT OF THINE EYE;'

And behold,
a beam (is) in
thine own eye.
5. "Thou Hypocrite,
first cast out the beam
out of thine own eye;
and then shalt thou
see clearly to cast out
the mote out of
thy brother's eye.

6. "Give not
that which is holy
unto the dogs,
neither cast ye your pearls
before swine,
lest they trample them
under their feet,
and turn again
and rend you.

7. "Ask, and it shall
be given you;
seek, and ye shall find;
knock, and it shall be
opened unto you:
8. "For every one
that asketh receiveth;
and he that seeketh findeth;
and to him that knocketh
it shall be opened.

9. "Or what man
is there of you,
whom if his son ask bread,
will he give him a stone?
10. "Or if he ask a fish,
will he give him a serpent?
11. "If ye then,
being Evil,
know how to give Good Gifts
unto your children,
how much more shall
your Father Which is in Heaven
give Good Things to them
that ask Him?

12. "Therefore all things
whatsoever ye would
that men should do to you,
do ye even so to them:
for this is
The Law and The Prophets."

ACCORDING TO YOUR JUDGMENT, IF GOD SENDS A MESSENGER TO YOU, AND YOU KILL THEM, OR DELIVER THEM INTO THE HANDS OF SOMEONE ELSE TO KILL THEM FOR YOU, IT IS NOT YOU WHO KILLED THEM, BUT GOD.

According to YOUR JUDGMENT, God is the sort of Father Who gives His Son Death, when he needs life?

You clearly do not feel that anything could somehow be wrong with your judgment. You do not believe that your view is impaired by your own Sinfulness?

iramure:
to die for my sake

WHO TOLD YOU THAT LORD YESHUA DIED FOR ANYONE'S SAKE- MUCH LESS YOUR OWN SAKE?

Who gave you this estimation of your own importance, or what justified it?

Did Lord Yeshua say or imply that he was dying for you, or did the people who delivered him to Death give you that excuse?

[color=silver].[/color] MARK 14:50.

50. And they all forsook him,
and fled.

COULD IT BE THAT THEY CLAIMED THAT HIS DEATH WAS THE PLAN OF GOD, THE WHOLE TIME- AND THAT THEIR BETRAYAL OF HIM DIDN'T MATTER?

iramure:
while still allowing the main culprit to roam about killing and causing more pains to humanity.

[color=silver].[/color] JOHN 8:51.

51. "Verily, verily,
I Say unto you,

'IF A MAN
KEEP MY SAYING,
HE SHALL NEVER
SEE DEATH.' "

How is SATAN a CULPRIT, when he only has Power over those who accept him as their Lord and Master, and reject the Patronage of God?

iramure:
Can someone help me out?

[color=silver].[/color]    MATTHEW 18:1-20.

AT the same time came
the Disciples unto Jesus,
saying,

"Who is the greatest
in The Kingdom of Heaven?"

2. And Jesus called
a little child unto him,
and set him
in the midst of them,
3. And Said,

"Verily I Say unto you,

'EXCEPT YE
BE CONVERTED,
AND BECOME
AS LITTLE CHILDREN,
YE SHALL NOT ENTER INTO
THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.'

4. "Whosoever therefore
shall humble himself
as this little child,
the same is greatest
in The Kingdom of Heaven.
5. "And whoso shall receive
one such little child
in my Name receiveth me.
6. "But whoso shall offend
one of these little ones
which believe in me,
it were better for him
that a millstone
were hanged about his neck,
and that he were drowned
in the Depth of the Sea.
7. "Woe unto the World
because of Offences!
For it must needs be
that Offences come;
but woe to that man
by whom the Offence cometh!
8. "Wherefore if thy hand
or thy foot offend thee,
cut them off,
and cast them from thee:
it is better for thee
to enter into life
halt or maimed,
rather than having
two hands or two feet
to be cast into Everlasting Fire.
9. "And if thine eye offend thee,
pluck it out,
and cast it from thee:
it is better for thee
to enter into life
with one eye,
rather than having two eyes
to be cast into Hell Fire.

10. "Take heed that ye
despise not one
of these little ones;
for I Say unto you,

'THAT IN HEAVEN
THEIR ANGELS DO ALWAYS
BEHOLD THE FACE
OF MY FATHER
WHICH IS IN HEAVEN.'

11. "For The Son of Man
is come to Save
that which was Lost.

12. "How think ye?
If a man have
an hundred sheep,
and one of them
be gone astray,
doth he not leave
the ninety and nine,
and goeth into the mountains,
and seeketh that
which is gone astray?
13. "And if so be
that he find it,
verily I Say unto you,

'HE REJOICETH
MORE OF THAT SHEEP
THAN OF
THE NINETY AND NINE
WHICH WENT
NOT ASTRAY.'

14. "Even so it is not
The Will of your Father
Which is in Heaven,
that one of these little ones
should perish.
15. "Moreover if thy Brother
shall trespass against thee,
go and tell him his fault
between thee and him alone:
if he shall hear thee,
thou hast gained thy Brother.
16. "But if he will not hear thee,
then take with thee one or two more,

'THAT IN THE MOUTH
OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES
EVERY WORD
MAY BE ESTABLISHED.'

17. "And if he shall neglect
to hear them,
tell it unto the Church:
but if he neglect
to hear the Church,
let him be unto thee
as an Heathen man and a Publican.
18. "Verily I Say unto you,

'WHATSOEVER YE SHALL
BIND ON EARTH
SHALL BE BOUND IN HEAVEN:
AND WHATSOEVER YE SHALL
LOOSE ON EARTH
SHALL BE LOOSED IN HEAVEN.'

19. "Again I Say unto you,

'THAT IF TWO OF YOU
SHALL AGREE ON EARTH
AS TOUCHING ANY THING
THAT THEY SHALL ASK,
IT SHALL BE DONE FOR THEM
OF MY FATHER
WHICH IS IN HEAVEN.'

20. "For where two or three
are gathered together
in my Name,
there am I
in the midst of them."

IT IS WE WHO MUST HUMBLE OURSELVES- NOT GOD, WHO MUST BEG AND PLEAD WITH US TO "PLEASE REPENT! "

kingxsamz:
It's only a mumu that'll have the opportunity to know the outcome of his actions, but choose not to use it.

sometimes,with d way they argue i think dis people are really atheist and are just playing d devil's advocate!because i cant undastand hw somebody in his right senses can make dat statement u quoted above!

kingxsamz:
This one don forget the title of this thread.
It's three options here.
Either your god isn't omniscient, your god planned it all along, or your god na just complete mumu.
Thanks for confirming that ur god is a mumu.

Nah! The issue between us was Strictly on All Knowing (Omniscient) as proven here

kingxsamz:
Are you omniscient?
If no, then testing your friends is very valid.
If you're omniscient and you already know who is loyal to you, testing your friends is highly unnecessary when you already know the results.

and not the others issues you now wrongly seek to Flee to and hide under having LOST!

Having Addressed you on this Issue,you then FLED to Mumu as your Evil Wicked Self Must Do, which I also Countered, then YET AGAIN YOU FLED to Loaded gun, to which I countered putting you in your place that you are running all over the place, Changing Post and Departing from the Issue Between Us, PROOF of LOSS

So, Bros you STILL LOSE! , you can keep running All Over The Place, as is your Usual Practice when you Lose to me, I am Done With You!

Femzaremz:
sometimes,with d way they argue i think dis people are really atheist and are just playing d devil's advocate!because i cant undastand hw somebody in his right senses can make dat statement u quoted above!

He is a Known Hater of God here popularly called Atheists seeking to destroy unfounded souls, that is his mission here!

kingxsamz:
Na only mumu no dey look ahead.
It's Only a mumu father who wouldn't look ahead to protect his child/children from impending harm.
It's as simple as that.

No father looks ahead to know that his child will pass his homework, classwork and common entrance but Satan sons will always speak evil, even against an innocent and reasonable father.

kingxsamz:

Mumu analogy.
Go and put a loaded gun in your sitting room and warn your child not to touch it because you want to derive some kind of fetish pleasure from his obedience.
Even Buhari wey be mumu no fit mumu reach that level.
Oga say na "please Him",

You are saying the President and CnC of armed forces of the most populous black nation is MUMU?

SATAN IS THE MOST USEFUL EXECUTIVE SPIRIT OF GOD ON EARTH.

SATAN TOLD JESUS IN THE GARDEN, "OGA, THIS EARTH WON'T CONTAIN BOTH OF US. YOU MUST GO UP TO WHERE YOU CAME AND NOW THAT YOU ARE ONLY 33. WHEN YOU GET UP. TELL OUR ABBA UP THERE THAT I SATAN CRUCIFIED YOU.

iramure:
I came across two ladies who identified themselves with a popular penticoastal church in Nigeria. After series of preaching urging me to accept the white jesus who died for my sake and reject the devil who is responsible for all the evil in this world. I then asked them that why is it hard for the Almighty God to eliminate the devil so that the world can be at peace?. None could provide any convincing answer.
Now why would Alimghty and caring God choose to kill his only begotten son to die for my sake while still allowing the main culprit to roam about killing and causing more pains to humanity. Can someone help me out?

Instead of Nigerians to face Buhari who is the problem of Nigeria, they are blaming UGM and IPOB. Why is that? Can you help me out

Dtruthspeaker:
No father looks ahead to know that his child will pass his homework, classwork and common entrance but Satan sons will always speak evil, even against an innocent and reasonable father.

Which time did homework /class work become a tree that can cause death? You people and your funny comparisons ehn.

Sheunma:
You are saying the President and CnC of armed forces of the most populous black nation is MUMU?

Sorry. Buhari is a very wise man. An intellectual leader. The leader of the best country in Africa.

kingxsamz:
Which time did homework /class work become a tree that can cause death? You people and your funny comparisons ehn.

Have you not felt and seen that everytime you fail at something you are supposed to pass and can pass you die?

It's as simple as that!

truespeak:
Nah! The issue between us was Strictly on All Knowing (Omniscient) as proven here
and not the others issues you now wrongly seek to Flee to and hide under having LOST!

Having Addressed you on this Issue,you then FLED to Mumu as your Evil Wicked Self Must Do, which I also Countered, then YET AGAIN YOU FLED to Loaded gun, to which I countered putting you in your place that you are running all over the place, Changing Post and Departing from the Issue Between Us, PROOF of LOSS

So, Bros you STILL LOSE! , you can keep running All Over The Place, as is your Usual Practice when you Lose to me, I am Done With You!

Why you dey cry behind emojis?
You don forget say na you first quote me?
So who dey follow you drag win/lose?
This one you're always in a competition with yourself, hope all is fine?

Anyways, your colleague said it's because your god wanted to test them, and I said you can't test when you already know the results, you sef come up with your own and said your god choose not to know even when his creations could be in danger, proving my point that your god is not wise. And you're here foaming at the mouth, claiming victory over argument nobody even started with you.

Like I said.
It's either your god isn't omniscient, planned it all along, or na just dust and air full your god brain. And you've already let me know which one it is. Thank you.

Dtruthspeaker:
Have you not felt and seen that everytime you fail at something you are supposed to pass and can pass you die?

It's as simple as that!

We're talking about a Father looking ahead to keep his kids away from danger. Not the foolish one who puts the danger in the midst of his kids to see if they'll get hurt.
You self con carry your small head enter here dey compare am to homework and classwork.
Shey no be dullness be that.

Femzaremz:
sometimes,with d way they argue i think dis people are really atheist and are just playing d devil's advocate!because i cant undastand hw somebody in his right senses can make dat statement u quoted above!

These people are even wiser than their god in the bible and they know it.
Deep down, they know they wouldn't take the actions their god in the bible took when making decisions.
Deep down they know it doesn't make sense.
But it's cognitive dissonance and fear of hellfire that's keeps them in their cage which they can unlock themselves.

kingxsamz:
We're talking about a Father looking ahead to keep his kids away from danger. Not the foolish one who puts the danger in the midst of his kids to see if they'll get hurt.
You self con carry your small head enter here dey compare am to homework and classwork.
Shey no be dullness be that.

As I told the other guy up above, We lived in A House filled with dangerous objects, electric sockets, lanterns, candles, irons otapiapia (rat poisons), battery acids, snakes, Scorpions, crocodiles etc

yet we lived, because we obeyed!

And did not allow our useless wicked neighbour to make us make a fatal mistake.

It's as simple as that!