Workch:
how you guys even come up with all these nonsense?

do your research . leave CNN

petra1:


why not go online and find out?

I haven't taken the vaccine and keys stick to me. This is simple physics but no you'd rather believe in ridiculous conspiracy theories.

petra1:


do your research . leave CNN

please just keep quiet, I have taken the vaccine.
Even without it, whatever you said defiles logic

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Your family took the jab?

My auntie took it. Nearly died from intestinal blood clots. Uncle did too. He couldn't celebrate Eid due to extreme fatigue/chills and was on medications for prolonged metallic taste in mouth that wouldn't go away.

Did you not preach anti-jab to them or have they just got more sense than some?

Most of my family don't believe in God. The government, politicians and mainstream media is their god. That's another story...

Please don't go disturbing God on my behalf.

No wahala.

God already gave me a brain and shown me how to use it so praying is not going to help much if I don't use it. You must afterall have heard what happens to those given talents they don't use. It gets taken from them, and marrying all the clay to all the iron on earth won't save them from a huge dental bill.

Nah your own...

providence338:
My auntie took it. Nearly died from intestinal blood clots. Uncle did too. He couldn't celebrate Eid due to extreme fatigue/chills and was on medications for prolonged metallic taste in mouth that wouldn't go away.

Be that as it is, I took it and never encountered what you say your aunty and uncle experienced, and I am certain you'd agree that my personal experience trumps 'dem say'.

I however promise to inform you if I taste metal or cannot "celebrate Eid due to extreme fatigue/chills" or if I die from it.

budaatum:


Be that as it is, I took it and never encountered what you say your aunty and uncle experienced, and I am certain you'd agree that my personal experience trumps 'dem say'.

I stated this earlier. Not everyone's immediate symptoms are going to be the same. Because they vary from person-to-person, symptoms are not my focus.

The focus here is on what the jab DOES.

Based on what it DOES, it will express itself in a variety of ways, depending on the person.

In other words, some adverse reactions are immediate. Others (most) will be delayed.

Because these are the jabs administered in the US, I'll explain primarily what the Phizer and Moderna jab DOES in a few posts.

But for now, I'm still setting up the foundation of why so many of us are distrustful of this plandemic.

Starting with "Lockstep" in 2010. Now unto "Event 201". Such information can NOT be ignored...

providence338:
I stated this earlier. Not everyone's immediate symptoms are going to be the same. Because they vary from person-to-person, symptoms are not my focus.

I had my second jab on May 24 and my first jab was on March 19, and no symptoms whatsoever yet, but I will let you know if that changes.

budaatum:


I had my second jab on May 24 and my first jab was on March 19, and no symptoms whatsoever yet, but I will let you know if that changes.

If you don't mind me asking...which jab did you take? Why almost 2 months between jabs?

Normally the time lapse between jabs is 3-4 weeks.

providence338:


If you don't mind me asking...which jab did you take? Why almost 2 months between jabs?

Normally the time lapse between jabs is 3-4 weeks.

No, I don't mind you asking please.

I had the Astra Zeneca jab. The recommended interval between doses is between 4 to 12 weeks, so I was somewhat in the middle.

budaatum:
Had my second Astra Zeneca today, 8 weeks after the first. I went shopping afterwards, as there's a market by my doctors, and I've been cooking since I got back, so I expect to be exhausted.

I have remained fine after the first jab and expect my fineness to continue after this second jab.

providence338:

My auntie took it. Nearly died from intestinal blood clots. Uncle did too. He couldn't celebrate Eid due to extreme fatigue/chills and was on medications for prolonged metallic taste in mouth that wouldn't go away

many people have died after taking the vaccines. Take India for example. The deaths were vaccine related. but the facts still rain that the side effect differ in people . some emidiate some take longer

budaatum:


No, I don't mind you asking please.

I had the Astra Zeneca jab. The recommended interval between doses is between 4 to 12 weeks, so I was somewhat in the middle.

Ah, ok.

In America, the vast majority of jabs here are Phizer and Moderna respectfully, then the single-jab Johnson & Johnson to a far lesser extent.

The government has banned Astra Zeneca entirely. I know little of that brand to be honest.

I do know it's not good though. Most western nations have banned it very early in the rollout bc it became synonymous with blood clots....long before such was linked to the other jabs.

petra1:


many people have died after takungbtge vaccines. Take India for example. The deaths were vaccine related. but the facts still rain that the side effect differ in people . some emidiate some take longer

India is a testing ground for many different psyops.


The media first falsely circulated images of people fainting and gasping for air supposedly from covid, when it fact it was actually old footage from a gas leak a year earlier. This is why I discourage people from blindly believing the media. Mainstream media is sorcery.
https://observers.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20210506-covid-inde-intox-video-morts-corps-sol-erreur-new-york-post


Next, they turned off people's phones for not getting vaccinated.
https://www.rt.com/news/526262-punjab-pakistan-sim-card-vaccine/ (Sorry, that's Pakistan)


Now they're just forcefully vaccinating people.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1407838899997745154


It makes NO SENSE to deceitfully circulate pictures of people with covid, coerce them into getting the cure, and when that doesn't work, forcefully inject people with that cure....if this were truly a pandemic.


Unless this was never about a virus...but a means to an end...to get something inside people's bodies at all costs.
More people are dying from the vaxx than covid. But the undiscerning masses will fail to connect the dots.
The media is slowly building a case blaming the new variants, surges, and death waves -- on the unvaxxed.


God Forbid.

I do not want to take the vaccine now. But not because of any of the reasons mentioned here. I just think it is a little too early to bring up a vaccine already. But asides that, everything else is only conspiracy theory and I don't subscribe to that. We give too much credit to these people. If they wanted to control you, they would do that already. Look around you, 80%-90% of what you use every day is made by "them". And please, stop demonizing Bill Gates. It's not his fault your parents are/were poor.

I do not want to take the vaccine now.

Good.

But not because of any of the reasons mentioned here. I just think it is a little too early to bring up a vaccine already. But asides that, everything else is only conspiracy theory and I don't subscribe to that.

Everything I've listed here thus far are FACTS. Not theories. Until you can provide PROOF to disprove anything I've posted, you'd do well to refrain from baseless and meaningless accusations. You're just ranting.

We give too much credit to these people. If they wanted to control you, they would do that already. Look around you, 80%-90% of what you use every day is made by "them".

From your inability to exercise any critical analysis to the information thus provided, you are under their control already. You've provided no proof or evidence to counter "Lockstep", magnets sticking to people, or thousands of doctors suing the CDC, WHO, FDA, NIH, etc. But you have the nerve to summarize sound evidence provided in this thread to "conspiracy theory", with no basis or logic to your argument.

And please, stop demonizing Bill Gates. It's not his fault your parents are/were poor.

Poor? Hmm...you really don't want me to go there with you....

The Rockefeller "LOCKSTEP" Document of 2010 should be a good indicator this was a PLANNED OUTBREAK.

Another good indicator is EVENT 201, a Coronavirus pandemic "exercise" which took place in NYC on 18 Oct 2019, just FOUR WEEKS before the first reported case of CV19 in Wuhan on 17 Nov 2019. Purpose of exercise is to educate senior leaders and policy makers at the highest levels of US and international governments and leaders in global industries to gain a fuller understanding of the urgent challenges they could face in a real-world crisis.

The exercise was put together by Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, World Economic Forum (founded by Karl Schwab), and John Hopkins University, School of Public Health. We'll get more into Karl Schwab later. To note, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has invested well over a BILLION dollars in John Hopkins University, they practically own this prestigious university.

SCENARIO:

Event 201 simulates an outbreak of a novel zoonotic coronavirus transmitted from bats to pigs to people that eventually becomes efficiently transmissible from person to person, leading to a severe pandemic with a fatality rate of about 10%.

There is no possibility of a vaccine being available in the first year. There is a fictional antiviral drug that can help the sick but not significantly limit spread of the disease.

The scenario ends at the 18-month point, with 65 million deaths. The pandemic is beginning to slow due to the decreasing number of susceptible people. The pandemic will continue at some rate until there is an effective vaccine or until 80-90 % of the global population has been exposed. From that point on, it is likely to be an endemic childhood disease.

OUTCOMES:

1. Global economy has plummeted due to pandemic.
2. The anti-vax movement is very strong and growing, primarily through their use of social media platforms.
3. Global health organizations primarily blame this group for disinformation and misinformation, which is hampering healthcare response efforts.
4. Health workers under attack due to rumors of them purposely spreading the disease, response efforts being suspended due to violence
5. Big Pharma is being accused of introducing virus in order to make money off drugs and vaccines, causing public faith in their products plummet.
6. Unrest due to false rumors and divisive messaging is rising, exacerbating spread of disease, as levels of trust falls and people stop cooperating with response efforts. This is massive problem threatening government and trusted institutions.

RECOMMENDATIONS:

1. Government must introduce a "Marshall Plan", a vigorous stimulus package to stimulate and rebuild damaged economy.
2. Government must step up enforcement actions against "fake news" and "conspiracy theories".
3. Governments are considering/implementing range of interventions to combat misinformation. Take control of national access to internet, censor media/social media access, penalties and arrests being made.
4. Social media platforms must acknowledge they are no longer technological platforms, but a BROADCASTING one, in an effort to parter with government and "science" as a counterweigh to fake news.
5. Decision to centralize all health information through an honest broker, like the United Nations, the WHO to counter fake news, disinformation and misinformation. reaching a global scale, down to local municipalities, faith-based institutions and other grassroots organizations.

https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/

Don't you think it odd that the US State of Washington and Punjab would have the same agenda? It's not like they share agendas in anything else.

budaatum:
Don't you think it odd that the US State of Washington and Punjab would have the same agenda? It's not like they share agendas in anything else.

If I understand your question correctly, you find it odd that two very different states, in two very different countries, in two very different parts of the world, have similar approaches in coercing/convincing/enticing people to get the jab.

Well, when you understand that covid was never about a virus, but was intentionally released as a WORLD-WIDE pretext to control humanity from the top-down, from the WHO down to the church, village, and grassroots organization level, then this comes as no surprise.

It's called the New World Order. The Babylonian Beast System. We're not quite there yet. But thanks to this PLANNED OUTBREAK, we're well on our way.

providence338:


If I understand your question correctly, you find it odd that two very different states, in two very different countries, in two very different parts of the world, have similar approaches in coercing/convincing/enticing people to get the jab.

Well, when you understand that covid was never about a virus, but was intentionally released as a WORLD-WIDE pretext to control humanity from the top-down, from the WHO down to the church, village, and grassroots organization level, then this comes as no surprise.

It's called the New World Order. The Babylonian Beast System. We're not quite there yet. But thanks to this PLANNED OUTBREAK, we're well on our way.

I just don't see the whole world colluding as you suggest. And when one considers the cost of all the lockdowns all over the world, it just becomes more ridiculous.

I mean, why would Nigeria play along? Why would Pakistan play along? Why would Israel and Europe and America play along. And who do you suggest is running this Babylonian Beast System? Bill Gates who can't even play along with his own wife? At the cost of millions dying?

Absurd, is all I can come up with.

budaatum:


I just don't see the whole world colluding as you suggest. And when one considers the cost of all the lockdowns all over the world, it just becomes more ridiculous.

I mean, why would Nigeria play along? Why would Pakistan play along? Why would Israel and Europe and America play along. And who do you suggest is running this Babylonian Beast System? Bill Gates who can't even play along with his own wife? At the cost of millions dying?

Absurd, is all I can come up with.

Do you believe in the Bible?

providence338:


Do you believe in the Bible?

I don't believe, period, as I see no merit in emulating demons.

I'm like Eve who would rather pluck the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil and eat to see for herself if it is true that she would surely die on the day she ate it or not!

God gave me a brain and a mind and has shown me how to use it, and if I do not use it I will lose it because it would be taken away from me and I would end up touting baseless conspiracies like claiming Adam and Eve surely died on the day that they ate when it is clear they surely did not die on the day that they ate the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, but found it good for gaining wisdom and opening eyes and who went on to populate the earth with what has culminated in your very self!

budaatum:


I don't believe, period, as I see no merit in emulating demons.

I'm like Eve who would rather pluck the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil and eat to see for herself if it is true that she would surely die on the day she ate it or not!

God gave me a brain and a mind and has shown me how to use it, and if I do not use it I will lose it because it would be taken away from me and I would end up touting baseless conspiracies like claiming Adam and Eve surely died on the day that they ate when it is clear they surely did not die on the day that they ate the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, but found it good for gaining wisdom and opening eyes and who went on to populate the earth with what has culminated in your very self!

Hm...I respect your opinion.

But I'm curious as to why you quote it?
Or reference the Adam and Eve historical account contained therein?
Thus acknowledging your own existence as you did mine?


Just curious?

providence338:
Hm...I respect your opinion.

But I'm curious as to why you quote it?
Or reference the Adam and Eve historical account contained therein?
Thus acknowledging your own existence as you did mine?

Just curious?

Why I quote the Bible?

Because it is a wonderful and amazing book with lots to teach those who ask and knock and seek to understand it as oppose to being lazy and just believing it.

Take what you claim is "the Adam and Eve historical account contained therein". You know you do not know if it historically happened or not, but you choose to believe it historically happened and therefore fail to read it and ask and knock and seek to understanding that which you read.

I mean, did Adam and Eve surely die on the day that they ate the Fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, or did they not gain wisdom and did their eyes not open and did they not see they were naked and did they not populate the earth and then go on to live for almost 800 years after eating that which we read will kill them on the day that they ate?

budaatum:

Why I quote the Bible?

Because it is a wonderful and amazing book with lots to teach those who ask and knock and seek to understand it as oppose to being lazy and just believing it.

Take what you claim is "the Adam and Eve historical account contained therein". You know you do not know if it historically happened or not, but you choose to believe it historically happened and therefore fail to read it and ask and knock and seek to understanding that which you read.

I mean, did Adam and Eve surely die on the day that they ate the Fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, or did they not gain wisdom and did their eyes not open and did they not see they were naked and did they not populate the earth and then go on to live for almost 800 years after eating that which we read will kill them on the day that they ate?

Yes, we can take many life lessons from the Bible, even amongst those who aren't believers or Christians.

The Bible is replete with scriptures that speaks of a one-world government from Genesis to Revelation.

Per Genesis 11, this happened under Nimrod -- after the flood.

The whole world was of ONE speech and ONE accord.

They were building a city, with a tower called "Babel". Its intention was to reach the heavens to fight God.

This is happening right now. Under the pretext of a "pandemic", a ONE-world government, ONE-world religion and ONE-world currency is converging as we speak.

The rulers of darkness of this world, and spiritual wickedness in high places are preparing the masses to fight against God when the time comes.

Just as Nimrod managed to convince all the sons of Noah, with the exception of that pesky young man, the son of his servant Terah in his palace of Ur of Chaldees. This young man went by the name of Abraham. The father of God's chosen nation to guard His Covenant. These are the people who pose the biggest threat to the one-world system. Just like the city of ancient Babylon.

Fast forward to Revelation. We see the formation of a one-world government, and a ruler of that government, who is going to force all to take a mark of allegiance to said government. Nothing new under the sun.

The only difference now, is the fallen angels who rule the governments of this world released a virus as a pre-text to vaccinate the entire world population with questionable ingredients meant to tag, track and monitor them with A.I and quantum computers like CERN..... if it doesn't immediately harm or kill them first.

providence338:
The whole world was of ONE speech and ONE accord.

They were building a city, with a tower called "Babel". Its intention was to reach the heavens to fight God.

I'm sorry but I do not agree with your understanding at all!

If God was afraid that the tower of Babel would reach heaven, don't you think God would be a hundred times more afraid when humans build higher skyscrapers today, or landed on the moon or sent a probe to Jupiter?

They all are much higher than the tower of Babel and God must know that tower building is not the way to heaven nor God's Kingdom.

budaatum:


I'm sorry but I do not agree with your understanding at all!

If God was afraid that the tower of Babel would reach heaven, don't you think God would be a hundred times more afraid when humans build higher skyscrapers today, or landed on the moon or sent a probe to Jupiter?

They all are much higher than the tower of Babel and God must know that tower building is not the way to heaven nor God's Kingdom.

Ok, no problem.

You don't have to agree with me at all.
And that's ok.

You're disagreeing with what's written.
I'm only relaying the written Word.

That said, Amazon's unveiled building plans for its new headquarters.
Nothing to see here....

https://www.cnn.com/style/article/amazon-hq2-design-helix/index.html

providence338:
Ok, no problem.

You don't have to agree with me at all.
And that's ok.

You're disagreeing with what's written.
I'm only relaying the written Word.

That said, Amazon's unveiled building plans for its new headquarters.
Nothing to see here....

https://www.cnn.com/style/article/amazon-hq2-design-helix/index.html

I am disagreeing with your understanding actually. It after all stands to reason that if God was afraid of the puny tower of Babel, God must be very afraid of an aeroplane that can fly much higher. And to claim God would cause confusion amongst people who unite for a purpose just shows that God should not be the God of inteligent people, as such a God would delight in confusion and disarray like we have here on Nairaland.

As for Amazon's new building, I just wish they'd build it in Nigeria.

budaatum:
I am disagreeing with your understanding actually. It after all stands to reason that if God was afraid of the puny tower of Babel, God must be very afraid of an aeroplane that can fly much higher. And to claim God would cause confusion amongst people who unite for a purpose just shows that God should not be the God of inteligent people, as such a God would delight in confusion and disarray like we have here on Nairaland.

As for Amazon's new building, I just wish they'd build it in Nigeria.

Ghana prolly be first choice

BassReeves:
Ghana prolly be first choice

But why, Bass? Is Ghana better than Nigeria? Would Ghana profit Amazon more than Nigeria? Would we not buy more from Amazon than Ghana possibly could?

I think it should trouble us that Amazon would rather invest in 238,535 km², 66.98 billion USD GDP, 30.42 million people Ghana; instead of 923,768 km², 448.1 billion USD, 201 million people Nigeria.

budaatum:
But why, Bass? Is Ghana better than Nigeria? Would Ghana profit Amazon more than Nigeria? Would we not buy more from Amazon than Ghana possibly could?

I think it should trouble us that Amazon would rather invest in 238,535 km², 66.98 billion USD GDP, 30.42 million people Ghana; instead of 923,768 km², 448.1 billion USD, 201 million people Nigeria.

Twitter, Google AILab and Fan Milk will know why brah.

budaatum:


I'm sorry but I do not agree with your understanding at all!

If God was afraid that the tower of Babel would reach heaven, don't you think God would be a hundred times more afraid when humans build higher skyscrapers today, or landed on the moon or sent a probe to Jupiter?

They all are much higher than the tower of Babel and God must know that tower building is not the way to heaven nor God's Kingdom.

God was not afraid of the Tower of Babel. He was agaisnt their motive. The tower was built in revellion against God. God had just finished punishment of flood on the earth. they rebelled and made bricks with bitumen . so that if God bring flood again the building woukd be waterproof anf would be taller that the flood level.

BassReeves:
Twitter, Google AILab and Fan Milk will know why brah.

We should try and find out and know too, so we can do what is required to fix it so companies come to Nigeria to create jobs and employment.

For all we know, it might be the same reason we are not creating companies ourselves to create Jobs and employ our people too.

budaatum:
We should try and find out and know too, so we can do what is required to fix it so companies come to Nigeria to create jobs and employment.

For all we know, it might be the same reason we are not creating companies ourselves to create Jobs and employ our people too

Twitter boss, Jack Dorsey, didnt hide the low hanging fruit reasons nah
- Naija fruits arent appealing, they are mostly if not all rotten to the core