There's two part set out for a man to live and God have seen both.

Workch:
The Christian concept of a god has failed all test and if everyone should be sincere, we know he doesn’t exist. They are just trying hard to hold on to the lies in the stories by concocting more lies.

People will always feel threatened when you tell them their god doesn’t exist even when you present overwhelming evidence. That’s how dogmatism work.

The Christian description of a god is laughable, illogical, ridiculous and overwhelmingly irrational. It doesn’t agree with anything in reality.

It's a matter of time, you will see his fingers.
I don't know your age, gender, level of education or intelligence even if you are a professor of all discipline or you are the richest man on earth or you are the finest or you are the fittest man on earth you will surely see the test of time

udoji2021:
y

You are not getting the point sir, equating God with a mere human is not proper. According to scriptures, He supposed to know what will happen right from the time he was making man cos he knows what will happen till the end of time. Why then did he went ahead to make man that will be punished severely later?

Yes, He knew what was going to happen so He planned man's redemption.
From your question: "why did He go ahead to make man". He needs fellowship with man, He made them in His image. That was why He always visited Adam in the evenings because He wants that fellowship. Man was created solely to worship and fellowship with God. It's only a fool that says there's no God. I wonder how he came to be.

My brother/sister, Just study the bible more. Dont be the kind of christian that believes hook line and sinker whatever anybody tells you about God. Thats why the bible is there to guide everyone, not only pastors. So study more and i promise you will get all your answers from the Holy Spirit.

Additionaly, note that God created man and gave man the power of choice. God wont force anyone to do anything. You either do it or dont, but you face the consequence of your choices. God gave Adam the right to make his choice, satan had the right also.

About heaven and hell, read the scriptures more, especially Jesus teachings. Heaven is real, and hell is real. The power of God is also real. Its amazing that people believe in dark power, but not in the Almighty's power. God's power is supreme over all. I advise you join a bible believing church near you where you can experience the supernatural power of God. you can also listen to apostle Joshua Selman's messages on youtube. You can also reach out to me for more engagement.

God bless you.

TripleOh7:


Once you understand that the concept of God that is being pushed by both religions is highly fictitious, then you'll begin to look inwards for the true answers to these questions.

Christianity embodies a lot of contradictions in it's teaching that a thinking person can't help but notice. Same with Islam.

Regards contradictions, can you state what made you think so. I didn't deny contradictions on individual or religious leadership perceptions. Have you read the scriptures?

But for scriptures, you can't conclude both religious scriptures have contradictions.

Don't want to mention any here, but if you've read the Bible then you can say, and have you read the Quran also?

Note: religious teachers causes lots of confusion in the society today, so don't judge a religion by the advocates, but by the scriptures.

udoji2021:


This is deep.

Wish you can tell me more

Don't b deceived
Ders God

Read these they are for your freedom of information.

What Happens to Us When We Die - https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/Good-News-To-Make-You-Happy/What-Happens-to-Us-When-We-Die/

1. Why Does God Permit Wickedness? - https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/w20070915/Why-Does-God-Permit-Wickedness/

2. Why Does God Allow Suffering? - https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/bible-teach/why-does-god-allow-suffering/

3. Why Has God Permitted Wickedness? - https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/You-Can-Live-Forever-in-Paradise-on-Earth/Why-Has-God-Permitted-Wickedness/

4. Why Do Suffering and Evil Exist? - https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/online-lessons/basic-bible-teachings/unit-3/why-suffering-evil-origin/#start

5. Who Go to Heaven? - https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/go-to-heaven/

6. Who will go to heaven, and why? - https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/wp20131101/who-goes-to-heaven/

7. Will the Earth Be Destroyed? - https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/earth-destroyed/

8. Will there ever be peace on earth? - https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-no5-2017-september/bible-verses-about-peace/

9. Peace on Earth—How Will It Come? - https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/peace-on-earth-how/

10. What will Jesus do in the future? - https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/wp20140401/what-will-jesus-do/

11. A Real Hope for a Better Tomorrow - https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/peace-happiness/real-hope-future-bible-promises/

12. What Is the Kingdom of God? - https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/what-is-gods-kingdom/

13. What Will God’s Kingdom Accomplish? - https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/what-gods-kingdom-will-do/

14. Who Is the King of God’s Kingdom? - https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-no2-2020-may-jun/who-is-king-of-gods-kingdom/

If you love what you read and you want to learn more about the Bible or about Jehovah's witnesses, kindly request for a visit for more free Bible study by clicking on this link: https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/request-a-visit/ to fill the form, and a Witness in your area will contact you.

Workch:
That truth only exist in your dogmatic head.

God does not exist, if he does, he can’t create someone like you. He will be too perfect to make such mistakes.

See fatality.

Workch:
The Christian concept of a god has failed all test and if everyone should be sincere, we know he doesn’t exist. They are just trying hard to hold on to the lies in the stories by concocting more lies.

People will always feel threatened when you tell them their god doesn’t exist even when you present overwhelming evidence. That’s how dogmatism work.

The Christian description of a god is laughable, illogical, ridiculous and overwhelmingly irrational. It doesn’t agree with anything in reality.

The devil has succeeded in deceiving you and robbed you of your heritage in the living God.

God has given you the power of choice to choose life or death. You get tired of God the day beging to enjoy ungodly life and sin without paying attention to cautions.

The people that will go to hell are the unrepentant sinners called the wicked by the word of the Lord.

Those people that the devil sent to deceive you have no standard for holiness and righteousness in their religion. You didn't just believe them, you were never a serious Christian before you met them neither were you genuinely born again if you claimed to be one.

You better repent and give your life to Jesus genuinely this time around. May God have mercy on your soul.

Good day,
There is God whether u like it or not. The main fact that science and all has failed proves there's a supernatural power that be which is God.
Be careful in ur thinking. If u really want to know God, get on ur knees, ask him to show u himself. If u are sincere, he will prove himself to u.

In as much as God is all knowing, he doesn't force his will on us, he shows us the right part through the Holy spirit leading but allows us make our choices.
If we humans can get annoyed if out kids or siblings err, why not God when we err.
Don't ever be fooled that there's no life after death. If only the dead can tell u, u will run for ur dear life.


uote author=udoji2021 post=103248922]I have been thinking about this lately and decide to share it here. Don't get me fellas, I'm a Christian and believe in God and his son Jesus Christ

BUT

It is believe that God created the world and knows what happened before, what is happening presently and what will happen later till the end of time. This brings me question on why he allowed Satan to decieve man, why was he also angry since He knew beforehand of what will happen? Then the consequent punishment, was it really justified?

The most confusing part to me now is life after death. I personally believe that there is heaven and hell right from my childhood days until one guy (Jehovah witness) told me that there is nothing like hell, he went on that even heaven is for a specific number of choose people and not for everyone, above all, he said that when one dies, your own is finished and you are not gonna go anywhere. Simply put, your body and spirit will die.

I nearly insulted him for spewing such rubbish but many years after, I'm beginning to think think twice about this issue.
Now, imagine suffering in this life for all the days of your life only to meet death (body and spirit),

My question is;

1) why not just enjoy your life even if it means doing bad things to enjoy life?
If you can't enjoy life, why not kill yourself and rest to avoid the sufferings?

2) Even if there is life after death, what if there is no suffering cos God may decide to give everyone peace after death.

3) Those that didn't hear anything about God, what is their fate?

4) which of the scriptures is to be trusted?

May God forgive my ignorance if what I just wrote is bad and punishable.[/quote]

Workch:
First of all, I will address your topic. Is it not laughable to think that an omniscient being gives freewill?
How can freewill and omniscience be compatible?
In reality, there’s no evidence for spirits, it’s a lie that dogmatists hold on to even when they cannot prove it.

Your religion is a function of mainly where you were born, how you were bred and the kind of people that influenced your life. There’s nothing divine about it.

We have more than 4,000 religions and every single one of them think theirs is the truth. For someone who was born in IRaq, he thinks that someone born in southeast Nigeria, who’s most likely going to be a Christian will go to hell. It’s vice-versa.

And the lies goes on, we that are irreligious see all these and just allow you people paddle your boats of self-deceit and delusion.

Bro, it is difficult not to consider this your accurate analogy. You have a point.

udoji2021:


Thanks for the reply. It's just so confusing and irrational to me sometimes.


@the bolded, thanks for the offer but I'm not interested presently, I'm just taking my time hence I will not rush into another thing especially JW controversial teachings. No offense sir

. You are at liberty my brother to choose which teaching to follow. Try not to be confused. The Bible provides answers to your nagging questions. Knowing what it contains will help to douse your doubts. The witnesses didn't say there's no hell, there is. Just that There's is no hell-fire.

The Universe is not an accident else it won't be fined tuned the way we see it.
"Every being which begins has a cause for its beginning.
The world is a being which begins an therefore, it possesses a cause for its beginning" Above was used by Islamic mediaeval philosophers to tackle the scientific world and up till now this concept is yet to be defeated.
Infact the concept of "infinite regression " is enough to challenge atheists that there is only one supreme being. If the message about the oneness of Allah did not reach a society, Allah says he knows best how to deal with the situation.

Guys, Religion is a belief. And this simply means the proof is spiritual. I am Muslim and I believe Allah exist. Period.

In my Quran,it challenged Mankind on Big bang, orbital mechanics, black hole, inter stellar travel, Universe origin, Matter, Quantum physics, Time dilation, relativity, Light travel, space time enigma etc. These enigmas which science is still battling today can be found in the various verses in the Quran.These idea of non deterministic and probabilistic nature of life as a limitation in reality as put forth by Mack plank, Heisenberg, Schroedinger and Einstein is a proof.

The universe which was created by Allah has no obligation to make sure we feel comfortable about the true nature of reality in the present physical dimension. And that's why he talked about other creations which is from a weightless form like light and flame(Jinns and Angels)

udoji2021:


This is deep.

Wish you can tell me more

Someone wrote what you quoted and you said "it is deep", yet you mentioned you are a Christian. Do we have another version of Christianity these days....

I guess you have enough coin to buy the market you are pricing

hibeebeeking:
You really need help and you need to see a counsellor ASAP. You are thinking beyond boundary. You better start to leave a righteous life.

Thinking beyond what boundary? Many of you don't even realize nor comprehend that your very ability to think was designed and handed you by God. He intended for you to use that thinking machine to the point of breakage and beyond, assuming you can.

He created your mind and brand and declared it good for Pete's sake!

By the way, how do you intend to live a righteous life first understanding what it means to be righteous?

Dtruthspeaker:


Does His Anger not give you another information?

Does it not tell you like Common Entrance, He knew man can pass?

Do you not see that Adam did not fail?(for Satan tempts everybody)

So why then did Eve fall?

So did you not see that God attacked her Pregnancy?

Why the pregnancy? Does it not give you more information about what truly transpired between Satan and Eve?

This doesn't seem like any truth. Or just maybe.... I am missing something

udoji2021:
I have been thinking about this lately and decide to share it here. Don't get me fellas, I'm a Christian and believe in God and his son Jesus Christ

BUT

It is believe that God created the world and knows what happened before, what is happening presently and what will happen later till the end of time. This brings me question on why he allowed Satan to decieve man, why was he also angry since He knew beforehand of what will happen? Then the consequent punishment, was it really justified?

Does God know all things? Yes He does but more importantly God is a God of principles, sometimes we tend to limit God to some set of conditions, such as If God is all powerful why dont he just make all things all right, what we miss is that God is a personal being that have attributes such as love, truth, justice, holiness, righteousness, faithful, longsuffering, God's actions and inactions are base on his personal qualities. For example God can do all things but he does not do all things, God knows all things but he does not interfere with all things and so on and so forth.
With this in mind, let is go on to your questions.

Why did God permit satan to tempt man?
The temptation was an opportunity regardless of whether he fails it or not, it was an opportunity for Adam to decide who he would like to pitch his tent with.

Look at it this way, God created Adam in a perfection environment to experience God's care and providence and fellowship with God but he still need to decide if to continue in it or not, so satan was allowed in to present the test.

most confusing part to me now is life after death. I personally believe that there is heaven and hell right from my childhood days until one guy (Jehovah witness) told me that there is nothing like hell, he went on that even heaven is for a specific number of choose people and not for everyone, above all, he said that when one dies, your own is finished and you are not gonna go anywhere. Simply put, your body and spirit will die.

If you steal from yourself, there would be no punishment.
If you still from your friend you make suffer a broken relationship,
If you steal from your parents you will get punished but not rejected.
If you steal from your boss in office you get sacked and probably get jailed..
If you steal from the government you get jailed.
Now, if you steal from God what will happen

Note it is just one sin, which is stealing but different level of punishment, this punishment increases as the authority or relationship of the person or entity you stole from.

What determines the level of punishment is not just the gravity of sin but the authority of the one to whom the sin is against.

We as humans do not yet grasped the depth, length, breadth and height of sin.

Only a God who is infinity in knowledge can know that and he only can decide the due punishment for it, if he says it is eternal punishment then it is so, and because sin is against him whose authority is limitless then the punishment is just.

I nearly insulted him for spewing such rubbish but many years after, I'm beginning to think think twice about this issue.
Now, imagine suffering in this life for all the days of your life only to meet death (body and spirit),

My question is;

1) why not just enjoy your life even if it means doing bad things to enjoy life?
If you can't enjoy life, why not kill yourself and rest to avoid the sufferings?

2) Even if there is life after death, what if there is no suffering cos God may decide to give everyone peace after death.

3) Those that didn't hear anything about God, what is their fate?

4) which of the scriptures is to be trusted?

May God forgive my ignorance if what I just wrote is bad and punishable.

Jehovah witness neglect the passages of the scripture that clearly states that there is everlasting punishment.
Question

1. Because there is consequences of our choice, for example the actions of Nigerians affects Nigerian and in extension the whole world.
It is called justice, one of the attribute of God is righteousness, It would be unrighteous of God not judge people although people do not want to be judged that is because people are selfish and self centred.

2. No, there can not be peace for everybody after death that would be unjust. God already said that there is no peace for the wicked.
Isaiah 48:22
There is no peace, saith the LORD, unto the wicked.

3. There is nobody that didnt hear anything about God. The heavens and the earth are witness to man about God's goodness, faithfulness.

Psalms 97:6
The heavens declare his righteousness, and all the people see his glory.

The concience of man also serve as God's agent to convict him of his sins, even though it is weak.

4. Do a research about the each scripture, the bible is not a book written by one man, neither was it a book that is believed to fall from heaven no myth and illogicality about the bible , it was written by many people from different background, some where farmers, doctors, kings, tax collector, priest, etc the books of the bible were separated by hundreds and some cases thousands of years yet the agreement is profound they all point to a divine source of inspiration, it is only in recent times, the bible has always being criticized yet it stand tall, many had rang the death knell of the bible yet even at there death it continues to be stronger, even with all the sociopolitical propaganda against it yet it gets stronger.

Workch:
The Christian concept of a god has failed all test and if everyone should be sincere, we know he doesn’t exist. They are just trying hard to hold on to the lies in the stories by concocting more lies.

People will always feel threatened when you tell them their god doesn’t exist even when you present overwhelming evidence. That’s how dogmatism work.

The Christian description of a god is laughable,
illogical, ridiculous and overwhelmingly irrational. It doesn’t agree with anything in reality.

You share in my thoughts too even though I will want to believe there’s God but I don’t see any reason y he should create hell.

What will be his gain in throwing sinners in hell? Like why did he create us then to suffer in this country and still continue in hell. Truly we Christians are comedians with our description of heaven as if no be all of us Dey go there.

Edusouls:
God doesn’t exist, but you exist abi? How did you start existing, born and grew up and still living? then u come here to spew rubbish, Because God that made ur existence possible have not taken ur pathetic, foolish foolish life away, because u re just equivalent to animals that roam the space..

Ad hominem attack. It seems you do not know how to debate, if a Muslim argued with you like this you'd be shouting terrorist up and down, desist from such.

udoji2021:
I have been thinking about this lately and decide to share it here. Don't get me fellas, I'm a Christian and believe in God and his son Jesus Christ

BUT

It is believe that God created the world and knows what happened before, what is happening presently and what will happen later till the end of time. This brings me question on why he allowed Satan to decieve man, why was he also angry since He knew beforehand of what will happen? Then the consequent punishment, was it really justified?

The most confusing part to me now is life after death. I personally believe that there is heaven and hell right from my childhood days until one guy (Jehovah witness) told me that there is nothing like hell, he went on that even heaven is for a specific number of choose people and not for everyone, above all, he said that when one dies, your own is finished and you are not gonna go anywhere. Simply put, your body and spirit will die.

I nearly insulted him for spewing such rubbish but many years after, I'm beginning to think think twice about this issue.
Now, imagine suffering in this life for all the days of your life only to meet death (body and spirit),

My question is;

1) why not just enjoy your life even if it means doing bad things to enjoy life?
If you can't enjoy life, why not kill yourself and rest to avoid the sufferings?

2) Even if there is life after death, what if there is no suffering cos God may decide to give everyone peace after death.

3) Those that didn't hear anything about God, what is their fate?

4) which of the scriptures is to be trusted?

May God forgive my ignorance if what I just wrote is bad and punishable.

All your questions and challenges as stated above are sum up in that bold text above.

What you described above is not the God the Bible describe. So, you first need to pick up the Bible and understand the God it described then you can know what you believe.

adeshna:


Regards contradictions, can you state what made you think so. I didn't deny contradictions on individual or religious leadership perceptions. Have you read the scriptures?

But for scriptures, you can't conclude both religious scriptures have contradictions.

Don't want to mention any here, but if you've read the Bible then you can say, and have you read the Quran also?

Note: religious teachers causes lots of confusion in the society today, so don't judge a religion by the advocates, but by the scriptures.

When I say contradictions, I meant the scriptures not the teachers.

For example, Christians believe Jesus is God.

Compare the old Testament God with the new Testament God.

The old Testament God who caused bears to tear little kids into pieces because they laughed at a prophet's bald head.

Compare to Jesus who welcomes little kids, embraces them and tells his disciples that it is little kids as such that the Kingdom of heaven is meant for.

Look at the Quran that says in one part to not forcefully convert anyone to Islam but also says that if you kill someone of another faith during a Jihad your place in heaven is guaranteed. (I might need to reconfirm this but I'm just paraphrasing)

The Quran encourages husbands to beat their wives. Etc.

But it says a man with multiple wives must treat each one equally.

yourdj2:

My brother, ask God to forgive you........

For what? ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eft6L9ZIg7c

udoji2021:
I have been thinking about this lately and decide to share it here. Don't get me fellas, I'm a Christian and believe in God and his son Jesus Christ

BUT

It is believe that God created the world and knows what happened before, what is happening presently and what will happen later till the end of time. This brings me question on why he allowed Satan to decieve man, why was he also angry since He knew beforehand of what will happen? Then the consequent punishment, was it really justified?

The most confusing part to me now is life after death. I personally believe that there is heaven and hell right from my childhood days until one guy (Jehovah witness) told me that there is nothing like hell, he went on that even heaven is for a specific number of choose people and not for everyone, above all, he said that when one dies, your own is finished and you are not gonna go anywhere. Simply put, your body and spirit will die.

I nearly insulted him for spewing such rubbish but many years after, I'm beginning to think think twice about this issue.
Now, imagine suffering in this life for all the days of your life only to meet death (body and spirit),

My question is;

1) why not just enjoy your life even if it means doing bad things to enjoy life?
If you can't enjoy life, why not kill yourself and rest to avoid the sufferings?

2) Even if there is life after death, what if there is no suffering cos God may decide to give everyone peace after death.

3) Those that didn't hear anything about God, what is their fate?

4) which of the scriptures is to be trusted?

May God forgive my ignorance if what I just wrote is bad and punishable.

I was born in a Christian Family, I mean my mother be like she and jesus relate coz of the way she carry the thing for head. right from childhood, I never felt convinced about the stories in the bible. sometimes after morning devotion I ask my mom a lot of stories in the bible that logically doesn't add up. The answer I get from my mom Is, don't ask too many silly questions so god wont be mad at you. just follow what the bible tells you. the bible says a lot of stories that seems like fairy tale. I never took Christianity seriously even tho I strongly believe there's a creator which Is god. I believe the concept of a god is misunderstood by Christians and Muslims alike. I lived In Asia for so many years, and learned a lot from their believe system which is mostly Buddhism. these people live a modest life and preach goodness. they believe every life on earth is Important Including animals. they believe the main purpose of life is to help each other grow and evolve. at least If you cant help people don't harm them. even though they believe your good deeds on earth determines your next life. with that being said compare to Nigeria where we pray and pray and pray. why then Is our society very disgusting and filled with bitter and evil humans even those who claims to be messengers of god? To me the main purpose of life is to be happy, enjoy your life, do good to every living thing Including Animals. It's the number of lives you have touched that will give you great happiness in your dying bed. as for Christianity matter. logic and Christianity or Islam doesn't go hand in hand.

Peteromi:
unquestionable you are the God, you can try to be perfect, but you can be perfect, that's why you need holy Spirit and I believe you need to understand life as in general but you can it's not possible but in this life try all you can to understand life and make sure you strive to beat your heart desires,live comfortably and success and anything you need in this life and know what you are doing no matter the situation , always remember(you can be perfect) this life is not yours and make heaven as well, Live wisely

1. But God said you should first be perfect before He can give you His Holy Spirit?

2. How can God give you His Holy Spirit when He requires that you first gain understanding of Him before you can obtain His Spirit ?

Workch:
First of all, I will address your topic. Is it not laughable to think that an omniscient being gives freewill?
How can freewill and omniscience be compatible?
In reality, there’s no evidence for spirits, it’s a lie that dogmatists hold on to even when they cannot prove it.

Your religion is a function of mainly where you were born, how you were bred and the kind of people that influenced your life. There’s nothing divine about it.

We have more than 4,000 religions and every single one of them think theirs is the truth. For someone who was born in IRaq, he thinks that someone born in southeast Nigeria, who’s most likely going to be a Christian will go to hell. It’s vice-versa.

And the lies goes on, we that are irreligious see all these and just allow you people paddle your boats of self-deceit and delusion.

Your premise above is faulty, absolutely faulty.

You claimed Your religion is a function of mainly where you were born,

yet you said we that are irreligious see all these and just allow you people

Does that mean there was no religion where you were born to function your decision? Or you were able to make a choice to become irreligion yet believe the choices of others are based on their background?

Such claim is not only bias, it is untrue.

udoji2021:
I have been thinking about this lately and decide to share it here. Don't get me fellas, I'm a Christian and believe in God and his son Jesus Christ

BUT

It is believe that God created the world and knows what happened before, what is happening presently and what will happen later till the end of time. This brings me question on why he allowed Satan to decieve man, why was he also angry since He knew beforehand of what will happen? Then the consequent punishment, was it really justified?

The most confusing part to me now is life after death. I personally believe that there is heaven and hell right from my childhood days until one guy (Jehovah witness) told me that there is nothing like hell, he went on that even heaven is for a specific number of choose people and not for everyone, above all, he said that when one dies, your own is finished and you are not gonna go anywhere. Simply put, your body and spirit will die.

I nearly insulted him for spewing such rubbish but many years after, I'm beginning to think think twice about this issue.
Now, imagine suffering in this life for all the days of your life only to meet death (body and spirit),

My question is;

1) why not just enjoy your life even if it means doing bad things to enjoy life?
If you can't enjoy life, why not kill yourself and rest to avoid the sufferings?

2) Even if there is life after death, what if there is no suffering cos God may decide to give everyone peace after death.

3) Those that didn't hear anything about God, what is their fate?

4) which of the scriptures is to be trusted?

May God forgive my ignorance if what I just wrote is bad and punishable.

Questions upon questions... Ask the Holy Spirit for a personal encounter with Christ and He will show you. You will come with your testimonies.
Study more of the word and pray.
I also want you to know Christianity is not a religion but living the life of Christ.
Religion will take you nowhere. It was religious practices that blinded the Pharisees from knowing Jesus Christ. They knew His family and so felt, the Messiah can't come from such humble home but they forgot the Holy Scriptures. Jesus Christ read their own Scriptures to them right in the Synagogue but still didn't understand because they were blinded with religious practices.
I would have given you countless references of the reality of heaven and hell but I want you to search the scriptures because what you will discover yourself isn't easily forgotten.

Well, can the clay pot question the porter?

Beware of so many people who seek to turn many from Christ, even those of the circumcision.

If you have been a Christian and still ask these questions, it means you have been a baby who haven't grown beyond feeding on milk. When you are supposed to be eating bone, you are still nibbling on milk.

Workch:
The Christian concept of a god has failed all test and if everyone should be sincere, we know he doesn’t exist. They are just trying hard to hold on to the lies in the stories by concocting more lies.

People will always feel threatened when you tell them their god doesn’t exist even when you present overwhelming evidence. That’s how dogmatism work.

The Christian description of a god is laughable, illogical, ridiculous and overwhelmingly irrational. It doesn’t agree with anything in reality.

so what's ur own description of God since it's obvious you're a Christian?

Kubernetes:
The Universe is not an accident else it won't be fined tuned the way we see it.
"Every being which begins has a cause for its beginning.
The world is a being which begins an therefore, it possesses a cause for its beginning" Above was used by Islamic mediaeval philosophers to tackle the scientific world and up till now this concept is yet to be defeated.
Infact the concept of "infinite regression " is enough to challenge atheists that there is only one supreme being. If the message about the oneness of Allah did not reach a society, Allah says he knows best how to deal with the situation.

Guys, Religion is a belief. And this simply means the proof is spiritual. I am Muslim and I believe Allah exist. Period.

In my Quran,it challenged Mankind on Big bang, orbital mechanics, black hole, inter stellar travel, Universe origin, Matter, Quantum physics, Time dilation, relativity, Light travel, space time enigma etc. These enigmas which science is still battling today can be found in the various verses in the Quran.These idea of non deterministic and probabilistic nature of life as a limitation in reality as put forth by Mack plank, Heisenberg, Schroedinger and Einstein is a proof.

The universe which was created by Allah has no obligation to make sure we feel comfortable about the true nature of reality in the present physical dimension. And that's why he talked about other creations which is from a weightless form like light and flame(Jinns and Angels)

Infinite regression is a challenge against the rule that "every entity that exists was created" but theologists seeing that this will lead to infinite regression simply said that there is something that created all things but wasn't created. This doesn't make any sense. The reason why infinite regression is and was not considered is because it isn't logical but at the same time an infinite entity with no creator or beginning makes no sense at all it is an exception to the primary rule and if that rule has an exception there must be a primary reason within that entity that excepts the rule to prove its exception. Don't even use that argument it's flawed you'll just go round I'm circles.

Igbojihadist:

AM LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER TO THAT NUMBER 3

The answer to his number 3 was given you since the time of Adam who died because he did not believe God.

What mankind inherited from Adam or the fate he doomed us all to by his choice was not sin but instead the punishment of sin, Death in which those who die in their sins cease to exist in the grave aka perish in their graves or are returned to dust from which they were made.

Softenergy:

I was an agnostic, till one day about 30 years ago, I heard a knock on my door by two members of Jehovah's witnesses, with any open mind head to https://www,jw,org click bible teaching, click God and read away
https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=E&pub=lff&srcid=share

You call feeding, not from your own God given understanding, but from that of another man , your GB, whom you have conveniently placed above you as if a God, openminded?

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