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Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by lordally(m): 5:49pm On Jul 06, 2021
PeaceJoyLove:

Argument is not the way to learn. Attacking people is not the way to learn. You learn by saying the truth. And when you do not know something, do not pretend you know about it just cos you think people dont know. Saying the truth has nothing to do with debates or arguments. And please, research him well, he has hatred in his blood. I refrain from using nasty words, but I'm telling you that he is nasty. And the boy is a kid. If I descend on him, he will not like himself. Just be observant, you will also see what sensitive people have seen clearly about him.

Bro I've gone through your Thread and you have some knowledge and insights to whatever you're saying, nice one. Also the guy you're talking about is actually a nice individual and please just take a chill pill cos going through your comments , you're more verbally attacking way more than he is of which isn't good for the kind of person you're projecting yourself to be.

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Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by Maj196(m): 6:24pm On Jul 06, 2021
ClixMaster:
You people talk too much. Where did he claim to be expert? So someone can't have arguments on programming again? In such arguments, we learn and him too will learn. You guys should just stop this hate and attacks.
I have got no hate for the dude whatsoever. But as far as I can tell the dude is still a struggling web developer. And not as the way he portrays himself. Peace
Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by Karleb(m): 6:31pm On Jul 06, 2021
You can't just stop thinking about me right?

Guy rest, I have a bigger fish to fry.
Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by tosinhtml: 11:40pm On Jul 06, 2021
qtguru:


Please join the next Clubhouse meeting we have, my topic will be around what to do as a Junior dev with no experience, you will benefit from it I promise

When is your next clubhouse meeting?
Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by qtguru(m): 1:58pm On Jul 07, 2021
tosinhtml:


When is your next clubhouse meeting?

Friday
Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by efelico: 6:49pm On Jul 07, 2021
qtguru:


Friday

Boss. I'm in for the meeting. What time/ platform
Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by Grandlord: 6:45pm On Jul 08, 2021
Etinosa1234:
More than a year learning Android/ Java and yet.. I've not made anything from it...

How am I supposed to tell my family that IT is the future when I still depend on them

Even companies I apply to will say they need a senior or intermediate developer... How am I supposed to grow if I don't get a chance..

Las Las we go dey alright
What kind of apps do you have in your portfolio?

Forget Java, do you know Kotlin?

Have you learnt the latest Android Jetpack architecture libraries and APIs like Databinding, Livedata/Kotlin flows, Room, Retrofit, Kotlin Coroutines, WorkManager, Firebase(mBaaS)...?


Jetpack Compose is production ready this month and will totally change the UI game, have you started learning it?

Android is evolving so fast...you need to stay in the loop to have a chance at landing a job.

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Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by qtguru(m): 7:05pm On Jul 08, 2021
Grandlord:

What kind of apps do you have in your portfolio?

Forget Java, do you know Kotlin?

Have you learnt the latest Android Jetpack architecture libraries and APIs like Databinding, Livedata/Kotlin flows, Room, Retrofit, Kotlin Coroutines, WorkManager, Firebase(mBaaS)...?


Jetpack Compose is production ready this month and will totally change the UI game, have you started learning it?

Android is evolving so fast...you need to stay in the loop to have a chance at landing a job.

Like I swear Android native is frustrating, which is why I feel Flutter should be the alternative for quick jobs

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Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by Grandlord: 7:22pm On Jul 08, 2021
qtguru:


Like I swear Android native is frustrating, which is why I feel Flutter should be the alternative for quick jobs

Bro no lie.

But with the new Jetpack Compose which will be certified production-ready this month, native is going to be as exciting as Flutter. It was the most encouraging news from the last Google I/O.

Jetpack Compose is basically like writing Flutter with Kotlin instead of Dart.

With Compose you can write your declarative UI on the fly.
I can't believe I spent so much time trying to understand a concept like RecyclerView when you can just do it with LazyLists in Compose and go your way!
Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by Grandlord: 7:23pm On Jul 08, 2021
qtguru:


Like I swear Android native is frustrating, which is why I feel Flutter should be the alternative for quick jobs

Flutter is perfect for freelance jobs but bigger companies still prefer Native though.
Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by Etinosa1234: 7:52pm On Jul 08, 2021
Grandlord:

What kind of apps do you have in your portfolio?

Forget Java, do you know Kotlin?

Have you learnt the latest Android Jetpack architecture libraries and APIs like Databinding, Livedata/Kotlin flows, Room, Retrofit, Kotlin Coroutines, WorkManager, Firebase(mBaaS)...?


Jetpack Compose is production ready this month and will totally change the UI game, have you started learning it?

Android is evolving so fast...you need to stay in the loop to have a chance at landing a job.

I've learnt firebase already.. I used it for one of my apps..

I'm learning kotlin presently...

I'll take note of the ones u mentioned also..

Thanks for notifying me

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Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by Grandlord: 8:25pm On Jul 08, 2021
Etinosa1234:


I've learnt firebase already.. I used it for one of my apps..

I'm learning kotlin presently...

I'll take note of the ones u mentioned also..

Thanks for notifying me

Great bro. I believe you've really grasped the authentication, cloud messaging and firestore aspects of Firebase.

Kotlin should take you max 2 weeks to really learn the syntax and the Kotlin vocabulary...since you already know Java.

Other technologies are core Android stuff. I'd suggest you look into Jetpack Compose as it's going to replace XML for UI design, going forward.

Master the MVVM architecture pattern, as that's the official architecture from Google. You can also learn design patterns like strategy, observer, facade, and factory because they're commonly used in app design.

Google 'android Kotlin fundamentals codelabs' and get to learn from the official Google tutorials so you can learn the latest stuff from the horse's mouth.
Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by Etinosa1234: 8:52pm On Jul 08, 2021
Grandlord:


Great bro. I believe you've really grasped the authentication, cloud messaging and firestore aspects of Firebase.
Yeah... I did all this... Seems I omitted that cloud messaging part... Will look it up soon

Kotlin should take you max 2 weeks to really learn the syntax and the Kotlin vocabulary...since you already know Java.
I've started already sef... I dont plan staying long on it before moving to Kotlin for Android

I feel I was misinformed to go for Java last year ..

Well no knowledge is a waste


Other technologies are core Android stuff. I'd suggest you look into Jetpack Compose as it's going to replace XML for UI design, going forward.

Master the MVVM architecture pattern, as that's the official architecture from Google. You can also learn design patterns like strategy, observer, facade, and factory because they're commonly used in app design.

Google 'android Kotlin fundamentals codelabs' and get to learn from the official Google tutorials so you can learn the latest stuff from the horse's mouth.

Omo... All this things don dey plenty ooo...

Na money I dey find Sha... So I go just grasp the basics and start building smiley Would all this be enough for me to start freelancing sef?

Pls are u also an Android developer?

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Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by Grandlord: 9:53pm On Jul 08, 2021
Etinosa1234:

Yeah... I did all this... Seems I omitted that cloud messaging part... Will look it up soon

I've started already sef... I dont plan staying long on it before moving to Kotlin for Android

I feel I was misinformed to go for Java last year ..

Well no knowledge is a waste



Omo... All this things don dey plenty ooo...

Na money I dey find Sha... So I go just grasp the basics and start building smiley Would all this be enough for me to start freelancing sef?

Pls are u also an Android developer?
The cloud messaging is for notifications functionality. If your app doesn't need it then maybe skip it.

Java knowledge is not a waste. I learnt Java myself and I use it for leetcode now. It's also easier to migrate your codebase from Java to Kotlin if you already know Java.

Sure...you can start freelancing if your clients don't demand too much sophisticated functionalities beyond what you learnt. But that's not always the case and you'll have to go back and learn what you didn't. Though it's a lot more motivating to learn if you're making money from it grin

Yeah, Android dev.

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Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by Etinosa1234: 12:49am On Jul 09, 2021
Grandlord:

The cloud messaging is for notifications functionality. If your app doesn't need it then maybe skip it.
Ohh... I see.. I'll still make an effort to learn it

Java knowledge is not a waste. I learnt Java myself and I use it for leetcode now. It's also easier to migrate your codebase from Java to Kotlin if you already know Java.

Ehen... Boss... On Android studio, there is an option to convert Java code to Kotlin ... Can't I just do such even if I know the basics of Kotlin already... I'm so comfortable in Java already

I dey fear to reach that leetcode sef.. make my depression nor pass this stage

Sure...you can start freelancing if your clients don't demand too much sophisticated functionalities beyond what you learnt. But that's not always the case and you'll have to go back and learn what you didn't. Though it's a lot more motivating to learn if you're making money from it grin

Yeah, Android dev.

Ohh.. I'd have liked to have ur contact so that I can reach when I have problems on Android

Do u freelance or u have a remote job?
Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by Grandlord: 12:39pm On Jul 09, 2021
Etinosa1234:

Ohh... I see.. I'll still make an effort to learn it


Ehen... Boss... On Android studio, there is an option to convert Java code to Kotlin ... Can't I just do such even if I know the basics of Kotlin already... I'm so comfortable in Java already

I dey fear to reach that leetcode sef.. make my depression nor pass this stage


Ohh.. I'd have liked to have ur contact so that I can reach when I have problems on Android

Do u freelance or u have a remote job?
Sure, DM.
Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by Nobody: 1:04pm On Jul 09, 2021
qtguru:


Don't worry I will be much detailed about this meeting, I will drop updates here, everyone will be due noted, because I expect a way bigger crowd.
Okay. Good afternoon boss.
Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by WrksOnMyMachine: 4:28pm On Jul 09, 2021
qtguru:


Don't worry I will be much detailed about this meeting, I will drop updates here, everyone will be due noted because I expect a way bigger crowd.

Do you have/make recordings?
Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by qtguru(m): 4:31pm On Jul 09, 2021
WrksOnMyMachine:


Do you have/make recordings?

Nope too lazy/busy for that, if someone can, they can be my guest.
Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by qtguru(m): 4:35pm On Jul 09, 2021
WrksOnMyMachine:


Do you have/make recordings?

Also tried recording in Google Meet and haven't had success in that. So I'm just going to leave it be, till someone shows me how or if someone can record
Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by WrksOnMyMachine: 4:46pm On Jul 09, 2021
qtguru:


Also tried recording in Google Meet and haven't had success in that. So I'm just going to leave it be, till someone shows me how or if someone can record

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Access for today?
Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by WrksOnMyMachine: 4:47pm On Jul 09, 2021
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Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by qtguru(m): 4:48pm On Jul 09, 2021
WrksOnMyMachine:


10-4

Access for today?


I have no idea what it means ?
Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by WrksOnMyMachine: 4:49pm On Jul 09, 2021
qtguru:


I have no idea what it means ?

10-4 = 0K

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How do I join the chat today? I just got a valid clubhouse invite after dumpster diving on Reddit.
Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by qtguru(m): 5:00pm On Jul 09, 2021
WrksOnMyMachine:


10-4 = 0K

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How do I join the chat today? I just got a valid clubhouse invite after dumpster diving on Reddit.

I'm thinking of using Google Meet in place of ClubHouse because it seems so many cannot join ClubHouse

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Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by WrksOnMyMachine: 5:12pm On Jul 09, 2021
qtguru:


I'm thinking of using Google Meet in place of ClubHouse because it seems so many cannot join ClubHouse

Please can we consider teams
https://www.microsoft.com/en-ww/microsoft-teams/free

- can take up to 300 participants
- has free
- ecosystem is dev friendly
Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by qtguru(m): 5:35pm On Jul 09, 2021
WrksOnMyMachine:


Please can we consider teams
https://www.microsoft.com/en-ww/microsoft-teams/free

- can take up to 300 participants
- has free
- ecosystem is dev friendly


Next meeting we will consider, I'll look at the features

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Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by WrksOnMyMachine: 5:44pm On Jul 09, 2021
qtguru:


Next meeting we will consider, I'll look at the features
https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/dev-program
Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by qtguru(m): 5:45pm On Jul 09, 2021
WrksOnMyMachine:

https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/dev-program

we use Teams at work, but it is paid didn't think it was free, we will look at it next meeting
Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by teewhydope(m): 5:29pm On Jul 10, 2021
Grandlord:


Great bro. I believe you've really grasped the authentication, cloud messaging and firestore aspects of Firebase.

Kotlin should take you max 2 weeks to really learn the syntax and the Kotlin vocabulary...since you already know Java.

Other technologies are core Android stuff. I'd suggest you look into Jetpack Compose as it's going to replace XML for UI design, going forward.

Master the MVVM architecture pattern, as that's the official architecture from Google. You can also learn design patterns like strategy, observer, facade, and factory because they're commonly used in app design.

Google 'android Kotlin fundamentals codelabs' and get to learn from the official Google tutorials so you can learn the latest stuff from the horse's mouth.



honestly, i only just moved back to native because of jetpack compose thingy, xml can be frustating. All my native android projects going forward would strictly be jetpack compose and kmm. kotlin is interesting
Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by Etinosa1234: 12:05am On Jul 12, 2021
Grandlord:

Sure, DM.

Pls contact me 08081460405

I've forgotten the email I used to open this account
Re: Dear Developer, Our Journey Will Be Different And That's Okay. by Grandlord: 10:29am On Jul 16, 2021
teewhydope:


honestly, i only just moved back to native because of jetpack compose thingy, xml can be frustating. All my native android projects going forward would strictly be jetpack compose and kmm. kotlin is interesting

Yeah...compose it is.

I believe it will be integrated into the next version of Studio. For now it can only be used on the artic fox and canary versions.

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