youngpresidooo:
mention one prophet in this dispensation that is not born again.
I have explained it many times that we are in the time of Grace . No one can come and say I am this and that without being born again.
It is a path everyone must pass.
All the five fold ministry is for the edification of the church. How do you edify the church that you never a born again?

Are you afraid to mention names?
Cos I don't understand this beating about the bush, madam

rainluv:


I also don't know how you got yours
Might be from a brothel

Neither did I ask you such question sir.

damocool:

Neither did I ask you such question sir.

Neither should you be bothered on how others got saved madam
Salvation is personal!

rainluv:


Neither should you be bothered on how others got saved madam
Salvation is personal!

Salvation is personal, yes. But one gotten from ones mother's womb will take no one to anywhere but hell.. Thanks

If they have hatred in them then they cannot be of God and definitely not Christians!


A Christian harbours no hatred!

odonkoro:
Is it now they know that religion cause hatred? Am organization that says only their members will have the privilege of attaining heaven and see the creator of the universe, and others will go to hell, what is that?
From history perspective, religion has caused most wars in the world, and is till causing up till now.

[size=8pt][/size]very true

rainluv:


His business?
I thought Christianity is Christ-like?

Yes. Christianity is about being Christ-like. Christ would visit and eat with sinners who acknowledge they are sinners and wish to repent just as he did with Zacchaeus the tax collector. However Christ will not visit a sinner who rather than acknowledge his sins, claims to be a saint!

TB Joshua claimed to have been born again from the womb. In Christianity you cannot become born again from the womb. It is anti-Christ teaching. So Adeboye as well as PFN and CAN do not see TB Joshua as a Christian in the first place. And TB Joshua was difficult to convert or associate with because rather than acknowledge his sins, he was claiming saint.

It is heresy in Christianity to teach or claim being born again from the womb. In fact it is a very dangerous teaching. And God does not take kindly to false or heretic teachers. People who teach heresy repeatedly are to be ex-communicated and sent away from the church according to Biblical teachings. False teacher and prophets may give you food and clothes and be nice to you and perform miracles. But as far as God is concerned a false prophet is a danger and an abomination before God!

The thing is this. I'm wondering why the outcry from people like this Ayodele and all others about the christian leaders generally keeping mum following his death and ultimately shunning the funeral.
It would be hypocritical and outright insane for them to show up at the funeral considering they never associated themselves with TB Joshua when he was alive, so it wouldn't make sense for them to eulogise him in his death. They just had to keep silent. They would have been viciously attacked as hypocrites by the media if they reached out to Synagogue after Joshua's death.

This cold shoulder that Synagogue church got from most of the Nigerian christian body has it's genesis since the early 2000's.
Many of you here might be too young to know the story, and since our media in this country are very poor in the journalistic act of bookmarking, archiving and periodic public refresher of past events for posterity, I am not surprised most of you do not know the history of this feud.

Let me put down what i remember as i was in my old enough to understand what ensued in the christian community during that period.
Those early years of the 21st century, when there was no internet and SM yet, SCOAN burst into the consciousness of the entire nation in a way like never done before by any pentecostal entity. Here was a young, mild mannered preacher, with very limited command of spoken English, in a church with an impressive crowd of thousands. The building had just started taking form, plastered with cement, but not painted.
It was a wonder how this humble looking and very unsophisticated young pastor with an afro and a goatee attracted such enormous amount of people in thousands.
The crowd always had an impressive amount of whites numbering in what used to look like hundreds.
His style of deliverance was something I and obviously most Nigerians had never seen before. with very controversial and graphic sessions captured on camera of people being exorcised of evil spirits, open wounds seemingly being healed, the lame walk, blind eyes open, insanity cured, HIV cured, cancer, diabetes, pile, tumours, ............ all sorts of ailments being cured. Complete with all the people shown undergoing the deliverance ministration returning to give public testimonies to the hearing of all.
Brethren it used to be mind blowing watching those scenes. It was scenes so spectacular and sensational and not seen before even from his contemporary who was also popular for broadcasting healing sessions too - "Chris Oyakhilome" of Christ Embassy.

His future association with Oyakhilome proved to be the lightening rod that led to the outcry and backlash from the christian body of the country.
By the way just to put this out there; my opinion of TB Joshua at the time was this - "There is something not quite right with the approach and methods used by this pastor".

Sometime later in the middle of the absolute popularity of Christ Embassy and their charismatic, good looking, well spoken, unrivaled in dressing pastor Chris Oyakhilome, he stunned me and obviously many others when he went to visit SCOAN and conducted a joint deliverance session with Joshua.
I cannot forget how i discovered the news. It was me going through one of the newspapers my father normally purchased when i was stunned to see a picture of both pastors standing side by side, arms stretched towards an individual being ministered to. I quickly showed it to my folks who were all also very surprised.
It just didn't make sense. Here was the widely respected and beloved Pastor Chris, at the peak of his popularity associating himself on a man who many people had a big question mark about his methods and approach.
There was and huge backlash from the Christian community as the two apex Christian bodies in the country, PFN and CAN condemned Oyakhilome, and asked him to publicly denounce TB Joshua or face expulsion from both bodies. Oyakhilome released a video where he berated the PFN and CAN saying - "PFN is not God" (I remember those events like it was yesterday)
Suffice to say, Oyakhilome and Christ Embassy have not been associated with PFN or CAN ever since.
In the midst of all the brouhaha over this matter, Pastor Chris Okotie was the most vocal pastor in the country who openly and repeatedly criticized, mocked, accused, and condemned the two pastors. I'm not being paid for this so i don't have the energy to put down some of the things he said, but he said a whole looooooot of things. Most important to note is that he accused TB Joshua of being a cultist that got his powers from sinister means from India etc.

I was very surprised after many years passed by seeing how TB Joshua and SCOAN sort of resurfaced, rebranded, upgraded and wound up becoming the most famous Christian Ministry in the Land.
We all know the calibre of people (world leaders, captains of Industry) that have been associated with the church over the years.
On getting older and wiser, and making a conscious effort to always apply a deep level of rationality in my judgments and outlook to life in general, i came to have respect for Prophet TB Joshua. I had not changed in my suspicions of his methods and practices, but i asked myself honest questions like - "Who am I to judge and condemn a man that feeds and clothes a multitude of humanity across the whole world? I looked at the enormous philanthropic efforts he was involved in, and compared it to what/or what not the other popular "so called" men of God were doing to impact the needy and downtrodden in the society.
I had to come to the decision to put my suspicions aside and just respect him for who he is at least to the thousands of followers that loved him and followed his teachings.

I leave judgment to God Almighty.

I am hoping there will come a time when other christian leaders controlling a multitude like late TB Joshua will initiate projects to impact the downtrodden and needy, many of which are members of the churches they shepherd.
For now all their projects are multi billion naira projects (mostly schools) that can be utilized by only the rich.
They should be embarrassed.

May Prophet TB Joshua Rest in Peace.

damocool:

Salvation is personal, yes. But one gotten from ones mother's womb will take no one to anywhere but hell.. Thanks

Okay
But rest assured prophet Tbj is resting well in his father's bosom

Wail and gnash your teeth over where you will be on the Last day
Mr assistant Jesus

Babinski:


Yes. Christianity is about being Christ-like. Christ would visit and eat with sinners who acknowledge they are sinners and wish to repent just as he did with Zacchaeus the tax collector. However Christ will not visit a sinner who rather than acknowledge his sins, claims to be a saint!

TB Joshua claimed to have been born again from the womb. In Christianity you cannot become born again from the womb. It is anti-Christ teaching. So Adeboye as well as PFN and CAN do not see TB Joshua as a Christian in the first place. And TB Joshua was difficult to convert or associate with because rather than acknowledge his sins, he was claiming saint.

It is heresy in Christianity to teach or claim being born again from the womb. In fact it is a very dangerous teaching. And God does not take kindly to false or heretic teachers. People who teach heresy repeatedly are to be ex-communicated and sent away from the church according to Biblical teachings. False teacher and prophets may give you food and clothes and be nice to you and perform miracles. But as far as God is concerned a false prophet is a danger and an abomination before God!

I have explained all this tiredlessly.
I just had to give up

Burna440:
Ladies and gentlemen, get ready for some talks from Nigeria pastors this week

Message 101

Babinski:


Yes. Christianity is about being Christ-like. Christ would visit and eat with sinners who acknowledge they are sinners and wish to repent just as he did with Zacchaeus the tax collector. However Christ will not visit a sinner who rather than acknowledge his sins, claims to be a saint!

TB Joshua claimed to have been born again from the womb. In Christianity you cannot become born again from the womb. It is anti-Christ teaching. So Adeboye as well as PFN and CAN do not see TB Joshua as a Christian in the first place. And TB Joshua was difficult to convert or associate with because rather than acknowledge his sins, he was claiming saint.

It is heresy in Christianity to teach or claim being born again from the womb. In fact it is a very dangerous teaching. And God does not take kindly to false or heretic teachers. People who teach heresy repeatedly are to be ex-communicated and sent away from the church according to Biblical teachings. False teacher and prophets may give you food and clothes and be nice to you and perform miracles. But as far as God is concerned a false prophet is a danger and an abomination before God!

Okay
But y'all are dragging your feet in mentioning one, just one prophet from the Bible that gave his life to Christ?

youngpresidooo:
I have explained all this tiredlessly.
I just had to give up

Sharap!
Give me names!!

You that gave your life to Christ, how many souls have you drawn to Christ?

tosyne2much:
What I see here is that his way of life simply did not go in alignment with theirs hence the criticisms and "fake prophet" tag he suffered. By the way, I find it annoying asking another person if they are born again and still go as far as asking who ordained them. It's a lame question that I also find repulsive

Okay, assuming he gave a pleasing answer, does that change anything? Was that a validation that he was a real pastor?

If at all it is true that TB Joshua is demonic and using juju to propagate his ministry as people claim then I'm in support of that kind of juju

The juju that will make a man philanthropic to the aged , blind, lame, widows, orphans and mentally deranged people. The juju that made someone give hope to the hopeless, scholarships to the poor, job to the jobless, food to the needy and gave out transformers to remote villages

See ehn, humanity is the greatest religion, so if someone is using juju to practice humanity, I'm in support of that juju

There are just numerous ways to preach Christianity than building the largest auditorium or having a branch in every nooks and crannies of the street

See ehnn, I don't hate Joshua

I appreciate all he does in charity, but christianity is deeper than that

The Bible said in the end the anti Christ would come he would deceive even the elect, he would even perform miracles, same Bible says the devil can translate to an angel of light

I don't call Joshua demon but his case is why I perfectly believe the above can happen when anti Christ comes.

We leave God to Judge ultimately, but go and search your history when T. B Joshua started ministry he was very controversial he could claim to be casting demons yet take the person through different pains, flinging them like a wrestler into benches (he brought that trait into Christianity of which today we all recognize such men of god to be fake who get powers from devil because Christ isn't interested in jamboree and pains of victims)

He brought the trait of putting stuffs into water mixing it and selling to members into Christianity of which today it is rampant and we know such Pastors to be fake because Christ healing is free

They get powers from higher demons to cast lesser demons or exchange one demon of disease to attract seven demons of other afflictions, exact reason members are never empty from seeking cure

In Paul time he also encountered a diviner who could tell the future and wanted to collaborate with Paul for money.

Joshua's early disciples revealed many fetish things, and it's no surprise when you look at the end product of someone drinking an "holy water" and vomiting snake or strange stuff

He discards his disciples and workers up to choristers regularly over the years and you never see the numerous old ones again we don't know what always happen to them (always mysterious)

He gives same disciples his powers to do miracles like he does as if Jesus gave him the patent to it (No offense this is fake and Not Jesus)

When he discard them they never ever come close to him again (did they die or where shut out for what they know?)

Could this be why he doesn't fancy branches of his church so things don't leak?

So what is the gain of all these to the devil, could it be that he has taken a deal with the higher demons for short fame and trade his congregation into bondage with the devil

I mean same congregation that keep going for miraculous sessions spend money in his hotel to see him, buy his holy water are infested with more demons, and keep coming and never get healed

Could it be that in the spiritual realm this his members even when they keep hearing Jesus, claim to be saved etc have been traded into chains as agreement with the very synagogue dedicated to a higher demons

Jesus sure won't take souls that continues to be flocks of one in a deal with devil

Can the demons make deal with some one for fame yes, can they perform wonders yes, do these things have duration yes, can souls be transferred yes, ask Yahoo boys using girls who run mad later

So at the end the philanthropy work of giving, donating, been humble can't take you to heaven when you don't follow the Jesus door

You can't follow the Jesus door when you have traded your soul to the devil for gain

The donation etc is just an avenue of collecting money from your followers giving it and claiming the glory for yourself

Mikecold:
Yes pastor Chris oyakhilome own should send a signal

Everyone is quick to castigate but fail to remember Chris was his friend at one time and suddenly locked up later on

They didn't fight, they didn't have public issue yet Chris is not one of those in the camp of any G'O

He is on his own, could it be there is something they all see that we don't?

Apart from Okotie is there anyone openly castigating T.B Joshua, so why do some people think it's by force to be mixed with him or send him condolence just to make them happy, they are not in enemity with Joshua Na.

Can't people just stay on their own again

Amokachi was once his personal assistant why did amokachi not show up for his funeral?

Why did those old time people that started his ministry together with him not come to his funeral?

Could it be they know how it all began behind scenes

Don't be carried away with the outward even the devil can translate into an angel of light

He had many early workers who said many things against him, could all of them be wrong, was he the only pastor that he kept getting those controversies?

They say the big men of God were jealous of him, was just one church in ikotun enough to threaten ministers who already had congregation across the nation.

I used to be a member of that church before, there was a group called Joshua 3 that's where I belong. But since me and Tb Joshua fought in the dream, it was a very serious spiritual battle that was when I stop going to that church. Personally I don't like talking against men of God even as an evangelist.
Though couldn't make it to the burial ceremony because of time I would have loved to be there. .
I hope someone body will take up his leadership position and do exactly what he is doing otherwise his discipleship is questionable.

Mikecold:
See ehnn, I don't hate Joshua

I appreciate all he does, but christianity is deep o

The Bible said in the end the anti Christ would come he would deceive even the elect, he would even perform miracles, same Bible says the devil can translate to an angel of light

I don't call Joshua demon but his case is why I perfectly believe the above can happen when anti Christ comes.

We leave God to Judge ultimately, but go and search your history when T. B Joshua started ministry he was very controversial he could claim to be casting demons yet take the person through different pains, flinging them like a wrestler (he brought that trait into Christianity of which today we all recognize such men of god to be fake who get powers from devil because Christ isn't interested in jamboree and pains of victims)

He brought the trait of putting stuffs into water mixing it and selling to members into Christianity of which today it is rampant and we know such to be fake because Christ healing is free (they get powers from higher demons to cast lesser demons)

In Paul time he also encountered a diviner who could tell the future and wanted to collaborate with Paul for money.

Joshua's early disciples revealed these things, and alot of them where confirmed true by the end users who are by products of the whole thing.

He discards his disciples and workers up to choristers regularly over the years and you never see the numerous old ones again we don't know what always happen to them (always mysterious)

He gives same disciples his powers to do miracles like he does as if Jesus gave him the patent to it (No offense this is fake and Not Jesus)

When he discard them they never ever come close to him again (did they die or where shut out for what they know?)

Could this be why he doesn't fancy branches of his church so things don't leak?

So what is the gain of all these to the devil, could it be that he has taken a deal with the higher demons for short fame and trade his congregation into bondage with the devil

I mean same congregation that keep going for miraculous sessions spend money in his hotel to see him, buy his holy water are infested with more demons, and keep coming and never get healed

Could it be that in the spiritual realm this his members even when they keep hearing Jesus, claim to be saved etc have been traded into chains as agreement with the very synagogue dedicated to a higher demons

Jesus sure won't souls that continues to be flocks of one in a deal with devil

Can the demons make deal with some one for fame yes, can they perform wonders yes, do these things have duration yes, can souls be transferred yes, ask Yahoo boys using girls who run mad later

So at the end the philanthropy work of giving, donating, been humble can't take you to heaven when you don't follow the Jesus door

You can't follow the Jesus door when you have traded your soul to the devil for gain

The donation etc is just an avenue of collecting money from your followers giving it and claiming the glory for yourself

Yet he did this perfectly for over thirty years of his ministry with major foreigners all over toppling themselves to see and associate with him?

You will be fine

rainluv:


Okay
But y'all are dragging your feet in mentioning one, just one prophet from the Bible that gave his life to Christ?

Are you saying TB Joshua is a "prophet" who did not have to give his life to Christ because you couldn't see one prophet from the Bible that gave his life to Christ?

1. Anyone who did not give his life to Christ from the day Jesus resurrected till date is not a Christian much less a prophet. If TB Joshua is that kind of prophet, then sorry is the case because he is then confirmed not to be a Christian prophet!

2. Old Testament prophets before Jesus died and resurrected didn't have to give their life to Christ because they were under the Old Covenant.

3. All genuine Christian prophets post-Jesus death and resurrection have to be born again first and foremost. Prophecy after the New Testament is different from the Old Testament. Prophecy is a spiritual gift for the service of God and not the veneration of men. Read more below:

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/sam-storms-what-does-scripture-teach-about-office-prophet-gift-prophecy/?amp

rainluv:


Yet he did this perfectly for over thirty years of his ministry with major foreigners all over toppling themselves to see and associate with him?

You will be fine

I am perfectly ok, I didn't want to spill the real deal because it's all what your eyes can't see which the spiritual father's can see

I don't even take any side, I am just a spiritual observer that is sensitive and know the way these deceits work

Good to know that a supposed ex disciple of his has confirmed here that he and his own spiritual father had a battle in a revelation

I am sure he doesn't even know what that means and how he has been under a covenant with the powers TB Joshua took cut with

Is it any surprise they are fighting you for been an ex outside the "synagogue"

Meanwhile something is pushing him from not attending the funeral I am sure alot of ex disciples of alive feel same way

Nawa oo

One is questioning why his old time members desert him and never return

Another is questioning why his members don't leave and form their own like they are in some kind of bondage

Una go dey alright laslas

Babinski:


Are you saying TB Joshua is a "prophet" who did not have to give his life to Christ because you couldn't see one prophet from the Bible that gave his life to Christ?

1. Anyone who did not give his life to Christ from the day Jesus resurrected till date is not a Christian much less a prophet. If TB Joshua is that kind of prophet, then sorry is the case because he is then confirmed not to be a Christian prophet!

2. Old Testament prophets before Jesus died and resurrected didn't have to give their life to Christ because they were under the Old Covenant.

3. All genuine Christian prophets post-Jesus death and resurrection have to be born again first and foremost. Prophecy after the New Testament is different from the Old Testament. Prophecy is a spiritual gift for the service of God and not the veneration of men. Read more below:

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/sam-storms-what-does-scripture-teach-about-office-prophet-gift-prophecy/?amp

Okay
Christ never abolished the ok testament so I don't know what you are talking about

Babinski:


Are you saying TB Joshua is a "prophet" who did not have to give his life to Christ because you couldn't see one prophet from the Bible that gave his life to Christ?

1. Anyone who did not give his life to Christ from the day Jesus resurrected till date is not a Christian much less a prophet. If TB Joshua is that kind of prophet, then sorry is the case because he is then confirmed not to be a Christian prophet!

2. Old Testament prophets before Jesus died and resurrected didn't have to give their life to Christ because they were under the Old Covenant.

3. All genuine Christian prophets post-Jesus death and resurrection have to be born again first and foremost. Prophecy after the New Testament is different from the Old Testament. Prophecy is a spiritual gift for the service of God and not the veneration of men. Read more below:

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/sam-storms-what-does-scripture-teach-about-office-prophet-gift-prophecy/?amp

Okay
Christ never abolished the old testament so I don't know what you are talking about

What baffles me most is that most Christians today cannot defend the bible the way they defend their religious leaders. Ask them to explain some Biblical teachings to you and you will be surprised at their level knowledge. Some do not even know about some things in the Bible. But just tell them what you think is not good about their Church or Pastor..................

IgweOfNnewi:
When apostle sulaiman spoke against massacre of Christians at southern Kaduna that he was nearly kidnapped by DSS if not for Ayo Fayose that rescued him then and also pastor adeboye that spoke restructuring, what happened.

Oyedepo was known as an antagonist concerning Buhari's matter. He spoke out seriously against him, but he was labelled a hungry pastor because he no longer had access to the largesse from Jonathan's coffers.
People didn't know what he was talking about concerning Buhari, and felt he just hated the north.
Many of them would step back from talking now, so as not to be labelled as gluttonous thieves

Mikecold:
I am perfectly ok, I didn't want to spill the real deal because it's all what your eyes can't see which the spiritual father's can see

I don't even take any side, I am just a spiritual observer that is sensitive and know the way these deceits work

Good to know that a supposed ex disciple of his has confirmed here that he and his own spiritual father had a battle in a revelation

I am sure he doesn't even know what that means and how he has been under a covenant with the powers TB Joshua took cut with

Is it any surprise they are fighting you for been an ex outside the "synagogue"

Meanwhile something is pushing him from not attending the funeral I am sure alot of ex disciples of alive feel same way

Buhahahahaha
Millions of his disciples world wide also claims to meet him in their dreams and he heals and bring solutions to their problems
Infact I know of one personally

So talk another thing

The men of God in question never spoke ill of him while he was alive and never were they friends. Friendship and association is a matter of choice.
Talk from now till tomorrow, they won't release a statement as regards his demise.
Make everybody dey their dey. Your congregation na your congregation and my own na my own, no need for busybodying.
Na heaven be the ultimate and not seeking approval from man.

There's no unity in Christianity

mywells:
There's no unity in Christianity

no unity in the church because they didn't greet SCOAN who they don't count as church?

Religion left Rome as a religion, came to Britain and it was politicized, it came to Nigeria it became a business center......

The way I'm seeing these religious leaders running the christiandom, there's no difference between APC/PDP...........

Even in politics there attend opposition's burial..........


1cor 3:3-7 said.......
3 For you are still [unspiritual, having the nature] of the flesh [under the control of ordinary impulses]. For as long as [there are] envying and jealousy and wrangling and factions among you, are you not unspiritual and of the flesh, behaving yourselves after a human standard and like mere (unchanged) men?

4 For when one says, I belong to Paul, and another, I belong to Apollos, are you not [proving yourselves] ordinary (unchanged) men?

5 What then is Apollos? What is Paul? Ministering servants [not heads of parties] through whom you believed, even as the Lord appointed to each his task:

6 I planted, Apollos watered, but God [all the while] was making it grow and [He] gave the increase.

7 So neither he who plants is anything nor he who waters, but [only] God Who makes it grow and become greater.

8 He who plants and he who waters are equal (one in aim, of the same importance and esteem), yet each shall receive his own reward (wages), according to his own labor.

9 For we are fellow workmen (joint promoters, laborers together) with and for God; you are God's [b]garden and vineyard and field under cultivation, [you are] God's building.(A)


Is this not in their own Bible......?

Maxino88:
Religion left Rome as a religion, came to Britain and it was politicized, it came to Nigeria it became a business center......

The way I'm seeing these religious leaders running the christiandom, there's no difference between APC/PDP...........

Even in politics there attend opposition's burial..........


1cor 3:3-7 said.......
3 For you are still [unspiritual, having the nature] of the flesh [under the control of ordinary impulses]. For as long as [there are] envying and jealousy and wrangling and factions among you, are you not unspiritual and of the flesh, behaving yourselves after a human standard and like mere (unchanged) men?

4 For when one says, I belong to Paul, and another, I belong to Apollos, are you not [proving yourselves] ordinary (unchanged) men?

5 What then is Apollos? What is Paul? Ministering servants [not heads of parties] through whom you believed, even as the Lord appointed to each his task:

6 I planted, Apollos watered, but God [all the while] was making it grow and [He] gave the increase.

7 So neither he who plants is anything nor he who waters, but [only] God Who makes it grow and become greater.

8 He who plants and he who waters are equal (one in aim, of the same importance and esteem), yet each shall receive his own reward (wages), according to his own labor.

9 For we are fellow workmen (joint promoters, laborers together) with and for God; you are God's [b]garden and vineyard and field under cultivation, [you are] God's building.(A)


Is this not in their own Bible......?

this is doctrine.
We are talking of if he truly is a born again

safesurfer:
is anybody stopping him? In the article, he said there's so much envy and the senior pastors don't want the junior pastors to grow. The question is: how is this statement true?
The churches being led by these men have a free entry and exit policy. If you are fed up of being a member, you can leave at any time. So how are they stopping you from growing? The man is just suffering from inferiority complex.

Over-Sabi that's the problem of the trio of Adeboye, Oyedepo and Kumuyi but that does not stop the Prophetic Ministry from forming thier own body after all the Pentecostal Movement started as movement against the Orthodox churches led by Catholic, Anglican Baptist and Methodist. Time for the Iginlas, Pastor Chris who had to cut Okotie to size, Mercyland pastor, Giwa and a host of many come together and damn these mini jesuses.bEnough is Enough.

youngpresidooo:
no unity in the church because they didn't greet SCOAN who they don't count as church?

Thought you said you had given up?