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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 5:20pm On Jul 17, 2021
Danielnino00:


I thought you had all the knowledge with regard to things like this...Abi na another wash??


Here's some education for you https://www.bbc.com/sport/africa/57161133

This my brother na complete agbaya

He barely know about football rules and how this things works even in the UK he reside
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 5:21pm On Jul 17, 2021
komekn:


What has Awoniyi done on loan that has been outstanding.

There is a reason he is not attracting much attention. Why would West Ham by a player who has been unable to show outstanding quality.
grin
cc: forgiveness
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 5:23pm On Jul 17, 2021
isan:
By doing that you are implying that iheanacho is more Nigerian than okoye when they should both get the same opportunity

Iheanacho grew up in Nigeria and he has family in Nigeria. His businesses will be in Nigeria unlike Okoye so yes iheanacho is more Nigerian than Okoye. Unless Okoye is living in a Nigerian community in Germany.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 5:24pm On Jul 17, 2021
humility33:


So those outside nigeria should be disowned and denied the opportunity to identify with their country in sports, politics,economics etc

They should be given a smaller quota.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 5:26pm On Jul 17, 2021
codemaniacs:


They should be given a smaller quota.

grin
So thats how we can win the world cup And compete with those that make their picks on merit
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 5:26pm On Jul 17, 2021
codemaniacs:


Iheanacho grew up in Nigeria and he has family in Nigeria. His businesses will be in Nigeria unlike Okoye so yes iheanacho is more Nigerian than Okoye. Unless Okoye is living in a Nigerian community in Germany.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 5:31pm On Jul 17, 2021
humility33:


Protecting quota system

You Nigerians rarely make progress in this country because of sentiments

People should be given the opportunity to play out of competence and not sentiments whoever meets the qualification and can deliver should be picked

This quota system enshrined nothing but mediocrity

Picking competent foreign based players is not mediocrity.

Nigeria currently has competent Nigerians in Nigeria and outside Nigeria in a lot of professional fields.

So you're saying we should let the ones in Nigeria become jobless and hire only Nigerians born outside Nigeria.

Would your parents have been able to send you to school if only Nigerians with foreign degrees were getting all the jobs

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 5:34pm On Jul 17, 2021
humility33:


grin
So thats how we can win the world cup And compete with those that make their picks on merit

See my response to you above..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 5:56pm On Jul 17, 2021
Ppogbae:


So she finally decides to play for us after the Americans dumped her grin grin. It is too late anyways. The rosters are due this Sunday.

That girl is basketball royalty. Missing this Olympics won't hurt her legacy at all.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 6:03pm On Jul 17, 2021
T. Moff scored in pre season

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 6:09pm On Jul 17, 2021
humility33:


I pray it goes in her favour....she should b included on the list still hoping her plea goes through before then

Yea hopefully it will. Even ESPN is in support of her joining us.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 6:16pm On Jul 17, 2021
charlesemeka85:
David Okereke too
Yeah good shout.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 6:16pm On Jul 17, 2021
codemaniacs:


Picking competent foreign based players is not mediocrity.

Nigeria currently has competent Nigerians in Nigeria and outside Nigeria in a lot of professional fields.

So you're saying we should let the ones in Nigeria become jobless and hire only Nigerians born outside Nigeria.

Would your parents have been able to send you to school if only Nigerians with foreign degrees were getting all the jobs

Your last paragraph does not follow because we still struggle to get jobs here in Nigeria wit thoss that schooled abroad jostling for same job slots like in NLNG, TOTAL, SHELL etc and the best get picked let it be so in sports let the best be picked irrespective of their country of birth or residence

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 6:21pm On Jul 17, 2021
DrLikita12:


The simple solution is to invest in the league. I don't believe in reserving spots for home based players, European based players or foreign born players except at the U17 level. If we want to compete at the highest level, we need the best players whether they play in the NPFL or Europe. If we are not seeing enough NPFL players, we need to take a look at our league and its shortcomings. If the league was better, we wouldn't be having this discussion because players from the league will be able to compete at a higher level (either due to improvement in the league or the ability to move to better teams).

Yes, our football growth will be limited by the state of our nation- bad roads can make transport unsafe for club players, but there are things we can do in the short term to help. Improving facilities and televising the league are two things that can be done within the next 2 years if the LMC is serious. Televising the league will bring in money, force people to be on their best behavior and give people the freedom to play at their best. More money= more investment in players, coaches, facilities, training, youth programs, etc. Unless we address the the root of the problem we will keep coming back to this issue.

It's not rocket science. Some people just want to jump before they crawl.
Develop the league and our football structure in general. No reasonable person should support this "quota" nonsense! All it does is breed mediocrity.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 6:23pm On Jul 17, 2021
codemaniacs:


Picking competent foreign based players is not mediocrity.

Nigeria currently has competent Nigerians in Nigeria and outside Nigeria in a lot of professional fields.

So you're saying we should let the ones in Nigeria become jobless and hire only Nigerians born outside Nigeria.

Would your parents have been able to send you to school if only Nigerians with foreign degrees were getting all the jobs
My parents would have to prove they're smarter than Nigerians with foreign degrees to get a job. Isn't it how things should be in a sane society?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 6:23pm On Jul 17, 2021
humility33:


Your last paragraph does not follow because we still struggle to get jobs here in Nigeria wit thoss that schooled abroad jostling for same job slots like in NLNG, TOTAL, SHELL etc and the best get picked let it be so in sports let the best be picked irrespective of their country of birth or residence

this your comment does not also follow because host communities also have their own designated job slots, scholarship , give-aways e.t.c. that people living outside the host communities are not aware of...

my comment stands...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 6:28pm On Jul 17, 2021
codemaniacs:


this your comment does not also follow because host communities also have their own designated job slots, scholarship , give-aways e.t.c. that people living outside the host communities are not aware of...

my comment stands...

So linking to sports....host communities should have reserved slots If you're even fair enough you should know that shell and others do give minor percentage to host communities and the talents ought to be competent prior consideration

You need wipe your thinking and ensure it is devoid of sentiments reasoning like this made us loose alaba and many other world class players that would have played for us

Right now we need the best everywhere while we develop our local leagues and tourney to meet standards

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 6:30pm On Jul 17, 2021
edi287:

It's not rocket science. Some people just want to jump before they crawl.
Develop the league and our football structure in general. No reasonable person should support this "quota" nonsense! All it does is breed mediocrity.

I tell u so annoying in the 21st century we're still running quota system little wonder why our public service is in shambles and the private sector making more progress because they ensue themselves of this mediocrity and lopsided mode of picking and sourcing talents unlike in the public sector

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:33pm On Jul 17, 2021
humility33:

grin
cc: forgiveness

Why are you copping me?

There’s no doubt that Taiwo is improving every season.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 6:34pm On Jul 17, 2021
forgiveness:


Why are you copping me?

There’s no doubt that Taiwo is improving every season.

C'mon i want you to prove him wrong egbon grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:36pm On Jul 17, 2021
humility33:


C'mon i want you to prove him wrong egbon grin

He is right. No reason West Ham will want him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 6:37pm On Jul 17, 2021
humility33:


I tell u so annoying in the 21st century we're still running quota system little wonder why our public service is in shambles and the private sector making more progress because they ensue themselves of this mediocrity and lopsided mode of picking and sourcing talents unlike in the public sector
Exactly bro. People keep pushing this quota thing because they don't want to do the hard work of fixing our football from bottom up.
They'll tell you getting foreign born is the easy way out and act like reserving slots for home based players will improve how our clubs are ran, our coaches, poor facilities, etc.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 7:00pm On Jul 17, 2021
humility33:


So linking to sports....host communities should have reserved slots If you're even fair enough you should know that shell and others do give minor percentage to host communities and the talents ought to be competent prior consideration

You need wipe your thinking and ensure it is devoid of sentiments reasoning like this made us loose alaba and many other world class players that would have played for us

Right now we need the best everywhere while we develop our local leagues and tourney to meet standards

you have to be trained to be competent, most footballers and athletes attend at least a football academy or sports academy before they can be considered for a professional career.. so most professional athletes you see today have the competency ( necessary sports education both theory and practical ) but the talent may not be there.

you can't compare players that play for Manchester United and players that play for bristol rovers fc.

the A:laba situation is a different issue entirely, can also be attributed to toxic tribalism against the SW... its the one of the same reasons Nigeria didn't tie down Saka, Akanji , adebayor e.t.c..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 7:00pm On Jul 17, 2021
edi287:

Exactly bro. People keep pushing this quota thing because they don't want to do the hard work of fixing our football from bottom up.
They'll tell you getting foreign born is the easy way out and act like reserving slots for home based players will improve how our clubs are ran, our coaches, poor facilities, etc.

Thank you. You've said it all

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 7:02pm On Jul 17, 2021
codemaniacs:


you have to be trained to be competent, most footballers and athletes attend at least a football academy or sports academy before they can be considered for a professional career.. so most professional athletes you see today have the competency ( necessary sports education both theory and practical ) but the talent may not be there.

you can't compare players that play for Manchester United and players that play for bristol rovers fc.

the A:laba situation is a different issue entirely, can also be attributed to toxic tribalism against the SW... its the one of the same reasons Nigeria didn't tie down Saka, Akanji , adebayor e.t.c..

You're not worth replying from your last paragraph

Who was victimizing the south west
U mean the NFF big wigs? Do u think prior posting at all

Alaba was neglected ans refused because of this stupid quota thing you're advocating for and not because of any tribal sentiments....

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 7:03pm On Jul 17, 2021
forgiveness:


He is right. No reason West Ham will want him.

I like your honest response
I pray he improves and get to play for the SE soon
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 7:07pm On Jul 17, 2021
humility33:


You're not worth replying from your last paragraph

Who was victimizing the south west
U mean the NFF big wigs? Do u think prior posting at all

Alaba was neglected ans refused because of this stupid quota thing you're advocating for and not because of any tribal sentiments....

If the SW was an independent country do you think Alaba, saka, akanji won't have been called up
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 7:13pm On Jul 17, 2021
codemaniacs:


If the SW was an independent country do you think Alaba, saka, akanji won't have been called up

Bro so sorry to say this

I think you're ridden wit tribal sentiment
Lets leave this discussion dont wanna loose it

I hate anything tribal and religion fanaticism

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Ppogbae: 7:16pm On Jul 17, 2021
Both USA Men’s and Women’s basketball team have lost to Australia. Damn.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 7:23pm On Jul 17, 2021
humility33:


I tell u so annoying in the 21st century we're still running quota system little wonder why our public service is in shambles and the private sector making more progress because they ensue themselves of this mediocrity and lopsided mode of picking and sourcing talents unlike in the public sector

you don't even understand what quota system means...

the quota system you're talking about means employing the wrong people just to collect salary which is what we see in Nigeria's ( especially northern Nigeria ) public sector which leads to important departments been under-staffed and few govt employees responding to thousands of Nigerians which leads to queues upon queues at several govt agencies..

the quota system I'm talking about involves hiring competent university educated Nigerians ( Nigerians that can defend their degrees ) to do jobs and not hiring incompetent university educated Nigerians who score 34 / 400 in jamb and got admission and also ended up graduating with similar results but will be given govt jobs ahead of other competent people from the same ethnicity.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 7:25pm On Jul 17, 2021
humility33:


Bro so sorry to say this

I think you're ridden wit tribal sentiment
Lets leave this discussion dont wanna loose it

I hate anything tribal and religion fanaticism

sentiments is why the developed countries are developed...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 7:35pm On Jul 17, 2021
humility33:



I hate anything tribal and religion fanaticism

lack of sentiments is why a govt official will take money meant to develop a local govt in his/her home state outside Nigeria or even outside his/her home state and put it somewhere else and when his people complains he/she blames the FG...

tribal sentiments and religious sentiments must never be in the same sentence.. they are two different things entirely...

so you're saying states like Bayelsa, Akwa-ibom e.t.c.. should employ only Yorubas and Igbos because they get the best scores yearly both in waec , jamb and university courses.

when was the last time someone who wasn't Yoruba or Igbo got the overall best result in Jamb, waec, university courses... To you does it mean that people who are not Yoruba or Igbo are dull


If we go by merit based on results in Nigeria, Yorubas and Igbos will clear out most of the opportunities in Nigeria...

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