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Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Barristter07: 12:59pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Emusan: He is fully aware holy spirit is not a person hence the lack of mention. Nobody else can know the Father like Jesus Christ. And for Jesus not to know the day and hour , not even anyone else can . |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Barristter07: 1:00pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
livingchrist: I have . Can someone else knows the Father's mind like Jesus ? |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Emusan(m): 1:01pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Barristter07: To even think that the deluded will first agreed that SPIRIT CAN BE IN A PRISON. So Rev 20:13 was only FOR NOAH'S PEOPLE. Jesus went and preached to the dead, you can hit your dull skull on the wall. |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Emusan(m): 1:04pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Barristter07: Didn't the scripture say "the Spirit SEARCHETH ALL THINGS OF GOD" and also "knows the very mind of God."? Inanimate thing knows your god mind |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Emusan(m): 1:06pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Barristter07: Ole... That's not the question! Here it is again, did Jesus know that Holy Spirit knows the very mind of God? Nobody else can know the Father like Jesus Christ. And for Jesus not to know the day and hour, not even anyone else can But the scripture says HOLY SPIRIT KNOWS THE VERY MIND OF GOD. Who should we believe, you or the scripture? |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Barristter07: 1:06pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Emusan: Sometimes you realize knowledge is essential. Aren't angels called Spirits ? The text is clear enough. Angels of Noah's day God didn't keep any human in a prison . They are all in the sea, they died in water ( Rev 20:13) That prison ( or hell) as some claimed changed the whole narrative. Nobody who died in water goes to hell |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Barristter07: 1:08pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Emusan: Jesus knows its not a person. Hence the lack of mention. If Jesus think holy spirit is a person, he would not have said ONLy the Father knows
This is why you are deluded. The answer is clear. Holy spirit was personified Same scripture said Nobody knows the Father like Jesus . Are you trying to say holy spirit knows what Jesus didn't know ? Delusion grandeur |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Emusan(m): 1:09pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Barristter07: Angels are called "IT" another version from the stable of the most delusional. Where in that verse did Angels were mentioned. Keep adding to your delusion God didn't keep any human in a prison . They are all in the sea, they died in water ( Rev 20:13) So you agree Jesus preach to angels in the prison, right? That prison ( or hell) as some claimed changed the whole narrative. Nobody who died in water goes to hell Says who? Where is the scripture! |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Barristter07: 1:09pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Emusan: I love this. So you agree no one else can know the Father like Jesus ? |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Emusan(m): 1:12pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Barristter07: Did Jesus THINK Holy Spirit is a PERSON or Jesus KNOWS Holy Spirit is a person. This is why you are deluded. The answer is clear. Holy spirit was personified On what basis did Jesus personify Holy Spirit? Same scripture said Nobody knows the Father like Jesus . Are you trying to say holy spirit knows what Jesus didn't know ? The scripture says HOLY SPIRIT KNOWS THE VERY MIND OF GOD. Can someone know YOUR VERY MIND and didn't know everything about you? Oponu radarada |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Barristter07: 1:13pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Emusan: Yes. Not dead people .
Revelation 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them Those in the sea are not in hell . Didn't your prison analogy fall like a pack of cards ? |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Emusan(m): 1:13pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Barristter07: You agree that HOLY SPIRIT KNOWS THE VERY MIND OF GOD. |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Barristter07: 1:15pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Emusan: So this is why I asked: Did holy spirit knows the Father than the son ? |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Barristter07: 1:17pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Emusan: I did becaus I know holy spirit was personified. On what basis did you say holy spirit know what Jesus doesn't know when Jesus said no person knows the Father like him ? |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Emusan(m): 1:21pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Barristter07: Now, your lying mouth is about to be busted. First, the scripture says Jesus didn't come to HELP ANGELS but the deluded JWs says yes Jesus did. CEV: Jesus clearly did not come to help angels, but he did come to help Abraham’s descendants. Heb 2:16 This is evident that what 1 Peter 3 was saying is actually human spirit in prison. Revelation 20:13 Jesus didn't come to help angels- scripture And that Rev 20 isn't about Noah's time only, so if you understand that then you will know what the verse is saying. |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Emusan(m): 1:25pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Barristter07: So what did Scripture try to explain by PERSONIFYING Holy spirit as KNOWING THE VERY MIND OF GOD? On what basis did you say holy spirit know what Jesus doesn't know when Jesus said no person knows the Father like him ? I didn't say so, but the scripture says Holy Spirit knows the very mind of God. With such attributes, it means Jesus decided to be silent on that basis. |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Emusan(m): 1:29pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Barristter07: ***But you turn yourself to the Father by claiming you KNOW WHO JESUS MORE. Scripture never said anything about that but we do know from the scripture that the Holy Spirit knows the very mind of God and only a BEING WITH CONSCIOUSNESS has ability to KNOW. Even more is when scripture places the three together as ONE 1 John 5:7 |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Barristter07: 1:38pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Emusan: Scripture didn't say nobody else knows the Father like Jesus Christ ? |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Barristter07: 1:40pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Emusan: If you didn't say so, If Jesus said he doesn't know something, what happens to every other person ? Silence won't say " ONLY the Father " . This is a declaration of Fact |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Emusan(m): 1:47pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Barristter07: Scripture says Holy Spirit knows the very mind of God. |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Emusan(m): 1:51pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Barristter07: I can see the way you always boycotting my question. You have to look at the perspective at which Jesus is talking. Silence won't say " ONLY the Father " . This is a declaration of Fact I've thrashed this. Next! |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Barristter07: 2:16pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Emusan: No human goes to prison after death. Revelation 20:13 even made it clear that anyone died in waters are not in hell but sea . This is where People of Noah's day belong. Jde 1:6, "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains, under darkness, unto the judgment of the great day." This is the definition of prison. And Who say Jesus went there to help this angels ? You are deluded |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Emusan(m): 2:20pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Barristter07: You're still lying! Angels who didn't keep their first estate have been condemned to everlasting destruction. How does this make sense that Jesus PREACHED TO THEM again, even when the scripture was so clear about it that Jesus didn't come to HELP ANGELS but the seed of Abraham? It's evident that Jesus preached to the dead human which are spirits. Your lying mouth will forever be put to shame. |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Liposure: 2:20pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
livingchrist:i used to think holy spirit and spirit of God are two distinct characters. |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Barristter07: 2:21pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Emusan: Matt 11:27 All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him. According to Jesus no one knows the Father Except the son. At Matt 24:36 the " Son " didn't know. That validate the statement that only the Father knows. What Jesus doesn't know. Nobody else can know. To claim holy Spirit is a person that knows what Jesus knows is to contradict scripture and make Someone else Closer to the Father than Christ. |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Barristter07: 2:22pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Emusan: Where is it written that the reward of sinners is prison? 1 Like |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Barristter07: 2:23pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Emusan: Holy spirit cannot know what Jesus didn't know . Let it sink . Unless we agree holy spirit is an instrument of the Father. Not a person 1 Like |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Emusan(m): 2:24pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Barristter07: But Holy Spirit knows the very mind of God according to the scripture. How can instrument HAVE ABILITY TO KNOW? |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Barristter07: 2:25pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Emusan: The same way human spirit was said to know . Did Jesus return to Heaven the day he died ? His spirit return , didn't it ? 1 Like |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Emusan(m): 2:25pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Barristter07: What message did Jesus preach to the already CONDEMNED ANGLES? Was the scripture lying that Jesus didn't come to help angels? |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Emusan(m): 2:27pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Barristter07: The scripture says Holy Spirit knows the very mind of God. Only a conscious being has ability to KNOW |
Re: The Mystery Of The Trinity by Barristter07: 2:27pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Emusan: The scripture didn't say Jesus went there to help . Again I ask: where is it written that the reward for sinners is Prison ? 1 Like |
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