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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 8:33am On Jul 21, 2021 |
DissTroy: What you posted does not mean "Insist that everything the black person faces, or deals with or has to do has to be viewed through a racial in decking". |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DissTroy(m): 8:46am On Jul 21, 2021 |
budaatum: Budaatum, stop with the semantics. You should know better than that. The definition of CRT as stated and accepted by all means examining issues which concern the black person from a racial perspective. I even posted the screenshot. I didn't define it - CRT proponents did. You are Left-leaning doesn't mean you have to agree with everything they postulate - you have a right to think for yourself. That means you aren't lost like the Leftists on this thread. I lean to the Right but I don't agree with the floating of platforms like Parler. I don't like echo boxes. Dissenting opinions are good and constructive debates help us become better humans so I'd stick with platforms like Twitter and Facebook (even though the moderation is biased mostly in favour of Leftist ideas). 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 8:48am On Jul 21, 2021 |
DissTroy: "Stop with the semantics", or stop using my brain? The definition above does not "Insist that everything the black person faces, or deals with or has to do has to be viewed through a racial in decking". |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DissTroy(m): 8:56am On Jul 21, 2021 |
budaatum: For the purpose of clarity, do explain this: "Roy L. Brooks defined critical race theory in 1994 as "a collection of critical stances against the existing legal order from a race-based point of view". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_race_theory (Check the "Definition" subheading.) Not from any other point of view from a race-based point of view. It's the definitive prism CRT is viewed from - race. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 9:06am On Jul 21, 2021 |
DissTroy:What you posted does not "Insist that everything the black person faces, or deals with or has to do has to be viewed through a racial in decking". "A critical stance" can and usually is one stance in many stances like, financial stance, motivational stance, opportunity stance, gender, sex, capability etc, and CRT can't possibly ignore them all. You should not claim everything is blue just because you have put on blue glasses. Some may be wearing different coloured shades or have perfect sight.. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DissTroy(m): 9:16am On Jul 21, 2021 |
budaatum: Exactly! CRT examines all these stances - gender, education, finance, incarceration, family... - but from a racial perspective or racial prism. For example, it postulates that the reason blacks are poorer is connected to institutional racism, or the institutional racism is responsible for black men getting incarcerated hence kids growing up without fathers. It blames racism for it all. It refuses to hold the black community responsible for its predisposition to gang violence or black-on-black crime or substance abuse or why black women lead the charts for abortion because it is overly subsidized for them. Need I go on? CRT examines all issues but from a racial perspective. 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 9:28am On Jul 21, 2021 |
DissTroy: Even that maths debate we had was looking at the performance of minority groups from race base. If they fail it is because of racism and white supremacy. Even when student refused to study its not their fault but racism and white supremacy 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 9:44am On Jul 21, 2021 |
DissTroy: Diss, CRT also has to consider a 'gender perspective' in its own right, and an education perspective, and a finance perspective, and incarceration perspective, family perspective, all in their own right and without racial input or prejudice. It must be done for comparative studies, and to have evidence of your racial claim and for respect by your peers for not doing shoddy research. Or can you not hear those on your side accusing those you claim "Insist that everything the black person faces, or deals with or has to do has to be viewed through a racial in decking", of being ignorant and institutionally racists themselves? If CRT insists on what you say it does no one would give it the light of day because we are far too advanced and smart for "I'm broke because I'm black", and no one is really selling "you are broke because you are black", despite your rhetoric that they are, and even if they are selling it, then I'm sorry to say that the fool who buys it deserves it. Jussie Smollett has come to my mind, but he is rare. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DissTroy(m): 10:04am On Jul 21, 2021 |
budaatum: See? Actually, many people buy it. There is still racism just like there's always be tribalism but to what degree? Sadly, most black people buy that narrative that they are held down by racism. I was debating an issue on The Economist's Facebook page the other day where one white woman was comparing her facial similarities to a sculpture she came across in Egypt. The number of black Americans who attacked her for being supposedly racist was amusing while Africans including myself noted the similarities and agreed with her. The victimhood is shameful and has been indoctrinated into the very core of the average black American. They think themselves gatekeepers of everything black even though Black Americans are the most xenophobic people on Earth to Africans on the continent. Even the African Americans are very xenophobic and they'd be more likely to be prejudiced against you an African living in African than a Black Briton or Black European. It even happens on this thread. Blacks believe the doctrinaire postulations of CRT and it's a good thing actions are being taken to curb its teaching. benalvino3: Oddly, they got Affirmative Action in return. Even though Affirmative Action cheats Asians who perform best at STEM than any other racial group. It's alright when it favours blacks only. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DissTroy(m): 10:11am On Jul 21, 2021 |
Obrigrado/EnlightenedUFO, are you taking note of how Budaatum is arguing his points on CRT and the debates have been going on, focusing on the many issues or perspectives stemming from CRT without insults? He didn't need to steal other people's articles from the internet or spend 4 hours compiling stolen work like you were doing yesterday. He's debating his points rationally. No coon, cultist or neo-confederate slur. Yet, like you, he's Left-leaning. This is how to debate. It's something you lack - decorum. And pseudo-intelligence is your stock-in-trade. It's why you'd always be tagged a mental midget, along with Baba60+ who has sired illegitimate children all over the place. Learn from your mental superiors, child! 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by EnlightenedUFO: 10:28am On Jul 21, 2021 |
All Jared's tweets have gone. The trump crime syndicate is in panic mode. We will get to know about the fraudulent middle East peace and the truth about the blockade on Qatar soon, either through the DOJ or leaks. FYI criminal trump introduced Jared to the arrested Thomas Barrack in 2011 when Jared Kushner desperately needed a loan for his 666 building. Also criminal trump floated the idea of making the billionaire Tom Barrack his Chief of staff in 2017. 1 Like
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by EnlightenedUFO: 10:31am On Jul 21, 2021 |
Foolish trump cultist and black man white-supremacist gatekeeper, I don't have time to waste on your bullshits. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 11:32am On Jul 21, 2021 |
DissTroy:My UK perspective of race might jaundice my sight of course, but over here only losers buy the narrative of race holding them down. You can't do poorly at school and easily get away with "my teacher failed me because I'm black" or not get a job and shout "racist" unless you have evidence for your claim. Your parents would take koboko to your backside if you tried the first - mine would have, and the school board would investigate; and no one would employ those who believed the second. We can after all identify it at the interview. Those who shift responsibility from themselves. I think you overgeneralise. We black Brit Nigerians would tell you our race, our blackness, is a superior advantage wherever we go, which is why we walk with our heads tall, and I know other blacks the world over who feel the same and no one who thinks as you claim CRT says. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 11:55am On Jul 21, 2021 |
The following is the consequence of your stance against what CRT is about. Its similar to Nigeria removing history from the curricula and to what made Adam a slave. You starve of knowledge so you can chain them to alimajerism, instead of trusting that most aren't stupid and are more valuable if they know more. Texas Republicans apparently worried not enough people know they’re abject racists |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 1:30pm On Jul 21, 2021 |
budaatum: You know the media and politicians are lying that Texas ban teaching that kkk is morally wrong right? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Goodvibes007: 1:38pm On Jul 21, 2021 |
Timiofak: 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Goodvibes007: 1:39pm On Jul 21, 2021 |
Hypocrites. 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:42pm On Jul 21, 2021 |
benalvino3:I hope its fake news, just as I know CRT teaching black people to blame whites is "media and politician are lying" too. To be honest with you, I expect us here to be far beyond insulting each other with "the media and politicians are lying" since that ought to lead to the accepted assumption that one must do one's own research. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Goodvibes007: 1:43pm On Jul 21, 2021 |
The left and right media both reported it, but the son of perdition would continue to lie even when truth slaps it's ugly and devilish face. 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Livelystone01: 2:00pm On Jul 21, 2021 |
benalvino3:Racism... 1. prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized. 2. a belief that a race is a fundamental determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences pproduce an inherent superiority of a particular race. 3. The system oppression to the social, economic and political advantage of another. Also, systemic racism which is more or less of an issue today is seen as a deeply rooted prejudice, combined with institutional power and systemic oppression of certain groups of people." Please cross out the things you disagree with and give me your take on the above. I agreed with your definistions of race. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 2:22pm On Jul 21, 2021 |
Livelystone01: CRT argues that race is not biologically grounded and natural but is a socially constructed concept that is used by white people to further their economic and political interests at the expense of people of colour. Is race biologically grounded or not? Do you accept the CRT definition of race? If yes why? If not why not? Why I crossed out number 3 is because it fell in line with crt definition of race. Notice he does not differentiate groups. This is more in line with the race is a social construct narrative. And if we go by this definition a racist is the oppressor towards the oppressed. According to crt whiteness is oppression and blackness is victim hood. If this is the case then someone like Obama can be racist because he was part of the system which they label whiteness. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 2:24pm On Jul 21, 2021 |
Why does racism exist in Scotland? |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:41pm On Jul 21, 2021 |
budaatum: I always agree with anyone who takes personal responsibility for their success or failures in life 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DissTroy(m): 4:35pm On Jul 21, 2021 |
budaatum:No, your perspective of taking the most blame for your fate is not jaundiced -it's right and normal.
I already stated Black Americans are guilty of this. Black Britons (which is odd as Britons aren't as race-obsessed as the Black Americans are so do not always use racial prefixes). That CRT postulation is why Meghan Markle (a Black American) who has all her life been fighting her family and has been accused as a social climber with attitudinal issues (including co-actors) and has many failed relationships where she was the toxic one would easily blame her travails with the Royal Family or the British press on them being racist. She refused to take any blame for the fallout even though she has mountains of issues herself. Guess those who still support her and call her "Queen" who is standing up to toxic whiteness? Yes, you guessed right - Black American and Leftist white saviours, of course. Black Brits are more likely to fault her stance. She has backing - Critical Race Theory dictates everything from her courtship to marriage was racially motivated against her. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DissTroy(m): 4:45pm On Jul 21, 2021 |
budaatum: Actually, most people are gullible. Maybe not stupid but easily impressed upon. Religion and the acceptance of religious excesses like fanaticism are some of such proofs that people are gullible. Preach CRT religiously for decades and the effects are the same - mindless sheep feeding on what they are being fed without questioning if it's toxic or not. I believe Black History should taught but go beyond victimhood. Most Black Americans are ignorant about the world around them and Black History as a whole. Most don't know more than "our fathers used to be slaves and were imported from Africa". Most don't even know the Hieroglyphics was formed and written by people with same woolly hair and brown skin as them. Most don't even know their slave ancestors had cultures of literacy already before enslavement; like the Nsibidi writing system of the Akwa-Cross people, which was also adopted by their Igbo cousins from Arochukwu and beyond. Most don't know who Mansa Musa was. This is the black history they need to learn. Know the dark past but learn the good and hold your head high in pride. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Livelystone01: 4:56pm On Jul 21, 2021 |
benalvino3:First of all I have said I'd never talk about the CRT because i don't understand what it is, I haven't even taken out time to check it out and I won't because it has become a political weapon. Also, before I say more i want to ask if you understand or know that systemic racism exists in America. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 5:00pm On Jul 21, 2021 |
Livelystone01: Systematic racism was laws and policies put in place to keep blacks down. Today, modern day America has abolished those laws. But if you know any systemic laws that discriminate against blacks list them out let's discuss it. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 5:00pm On Jul 21, 2021 |
DissTroy: Ironically, maga is America first, and not "Hieroglyphics was formed and written by people with same woolly hair and brown skin as them", nor "Nsibidi writing system of the Akwa-Cross people", or "who Mansa Musa was", and when we do teach that, which we do you just haven't noticed yet, you will claim we are telling people to go back to Arochukwu or something more absurd. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 5:13pm On Jul 21, 2021 |
Kendi Says Black Communities Are Considered High Crime Because ‘What Is Criminalized Has Historically Been Based On Race And Power’ CRT for you. Everything is about race and DissTroy keep saying it 2 Likes
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 5:19pm On Jul 21, 2021 |
Insidenaija: |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 5:33pm On Jul 21, 2021 |
leftism 2 Likes
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DissTroy(m): 5:34pm On Jul 21, 2021 |
budaatum: No, I'm not or wouldn't accuse you of that. I'm not talking about MAGA, or Trump any political affiliation at all. We are discussing about blacks and black issues i.e CRT and its effects. Let's not deviate, please. Most descendants of the slaves (and I do not mean this disrespectfully as they were victims of mostly greed by their own kinsmen) think their ancestors were nothing before slavery. Are you going to pretend it's not uncommon for Black Americans to say something dumb like, "Do they even have electricity or food in Africa?" Or ask Africans they interact with, "Do you own a hut of your own in Africa?" Or still think and address Africa like one expansive local government area. Black Britons aren't that naive. That ignorance is why the average Black American, poor and half-literate as he is, thinks he is superior to every African living on the African continent. You see that "sickly, hut-dwelling pauper" slur used on this thread to describe ALL Nigerians living on the continent is reminiscent of that ignorance-fueled xenophobia by Black Americans. CRT teaches and glorifies victimhood. For example, you'd say the South-South is a minority group. I am Ibibio, the fourth largest ethnic group in Nigeria, followed by the Ijaws. My people don't need to be as populated as the Yorubas or Hausas for them for us to lay our claim in the Nigerian fate. I refuse to be addressed as a minority even if I were Tiv or Annang or Ekoi. That's where it starts - that minority mentality. Next, I start blaming the Yorubas or Hausas for any woe I encounter. 2 Likes |
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