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Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Kobojunkie: 2:36pm On Jul 22, 2021
Dreamhighnow:
Let God be the judge. Nothing will happen to them. Your anger for men of God will just hurt you. So you have the machines to detect men of God?
So the one who judged the pastors as being "unfruitful" what did he do? undecided
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by seyz91(m): 2:36pm On Jul 22, 2021
You said it all

Na you make sense pass

All the nonsense those above dey talk no concern me believing baba say he's not about money

As i've been saying and will keep saying

Soul winners same as more members and more members mean more income as per tithe and offering

I'm not among the gullible nigerians so i know better
BafanaBafana:
The sacked pastor in this case was explicitly told about income. He was told the church should be able to generate money to run itself, and shouldn't be running at loss.
They made a mistake in giving him the explanation, thinking he won't go public because of the fear of the wrath of God, but nigga is a Tiv man, dem no dey fear like that, he spilt everything.
Imagine if the church was in bonny island, and they couldn't grow in numbers, but have a fat income, would they sack the pastor?
Besides, when they talk about winning souls, do they mean leading people to Christ, or bringing members to their church? Because I don't see why you will be dragging someone who is attending a church already to come to your church, claiming to be winning souls.
Furthermore, I don't know if I have ever seen a living faith member who is living a Christlike life. Church is just gymnastic for most of them. The only thing they take seriously is paying of tithe, which is the emphasis of their messages by the way

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Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Kobojunkie: 2:37pm On Jul 22, 2021
Romanoff:

Please go and read on the "Great commission".
What "great commission" ? undecided

Didn't Jesus Christ sufficiently warn you against imbibing the doctrines and traditions of men, that which He declared an abomination where God's Word and Truth is concerned - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 and Mark 7 vs 1 - 23 ? undecided

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Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by FRANKOSKI(m): 2:38pm On Jul 22, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Answer the question... what is the tree in the case of Luke and what are the fruits expected, for you to attempt to compare it to this case? undecided

What is the tree in this case and what kind of fruits is it meant to bear? undecided
tree is PASTOR or Apostles,WHILE FRUITS means many things... SOULS,MONEY Etc
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by emonis88: 2:38pm On Jul 22, 2021
More souls , more in number of congregation, increase in offering, more money.

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Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by FRANKOSKI(m): 2:39pm On Jul 22, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Answer the question... what is the tree in the case of Luke and what are the fruits expected, for you to attempt to compare it to this case? undecided

What is the tree in this case and what kind of fruits is it meant to bear? undecided
tree is PASTOR or Apostles,WHILE FRUITS means many things... SOULS,MONEY Etc..
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Kobojunkie: 2:40pm On Jul 22, 2021
FRANKOSKI:

tree is PASTOR or Apostles,WHILE FRUITS means many things... SOULS,MONEY Etc
Is this what Jesus Christ told you in the Bible passage you referenced? shocked shocked shocked

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Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by DimIsaac10(m): 2:41pm On Jul 22, 2021
How can you justify sacking pastors because they failed to win souls?.
What is the world turning into?.
A lot of believers will even justify this...

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Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Emperor5(m): 2:41pm On Jul 22, 2021
Oyedepo is just speaking in parable...he sack the pastor's because of low income in their various church. No doubt church have become business center where pastor's go extra mile to extorted gullible one, they don't preach about salvation anymore, they are after offering and tithes.... Imagine, in some churches offering are made about 4 to 5 times in each mass... Pastor will ask if you want God to bless you this week drop 100k in the alter, some people will mumuciously drop it and keep dreaming for magic to happen...no be juju be dat. Now poor members are no more regarded in the house of God, is this what Christ thought them as Christianity. This single attitude by so called man of God has force some people out of church.
I believe time shall tell when African will realize that what so called pastor's preach is not part of Christianity

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Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by FRANKOSKI(m): 2:42pm On Jul 22, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Is this what Jesus Christ told you in the Bible passage you referenced? shocked shocked shocked

TEACH ME AND STOP ASKING QUESTIONS, WE LEARN FROM ONE ANOTHER OK....
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by DSoj(m): 2:42pm On Jul 22, 2021
There at 200 million Nigerians., how come oyedepo himself can't win 100m Nigerians to his church, the church claims to have 6m members, God too should be impatient and SACK oyedepo.

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Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Kobojunkie: 2:42pm On Jul 22, 2021
emapeteum:
Using the word nonsense really show how arrogant our so call men of God's are?has this man read beatitudes?
You can't fake God on the beatitudes... undecided
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Ayomi90: 2:43pm On Jul 22, 2021
YorubaKinging:
The end is near

Lying oyedepo at it again

We all know you sacked the pastors because of low income turn-in

But the time comes when all false prophets will be disgraced

By that time, thier yeye followers will be shouting "this is war against christians'

They won't know they are paying for thier crimes

I can get you the details of the sacked pastors so u can recruit them.
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Organs(m): 2:43pm On Jul 22, 2021
Now if muslims should complain about religious intolerance, blasphemy against their faith and in your face preaching, they will call them terrorist. You have all these pastors preaching to you, telling you lies about your faith in order to win you over, promising you different non existent miracles, using tricks, lies, food etc, movies, entertainment, all, to do evangelism to win you over and if one complains, one becomes a terrorist. We need to levelset on religion, faith and practice in Nigeria. There should be laws guiding our religiosity, what is acceptable and what is unacceptable.
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by FRANKOSKI(m): 2:43pm On Jul 22, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Is this what Jesus Christ told you in the Bible passage you referenced? shocked shocked shocked
TEACH ME AM READY TO LEARN. AM NOT MR KNOW IT ALL OK...
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Nauttyprof(m): 2:43pm On Jul 22, 2021
BafanaBafana:
The sacked pastor in this case was explicitly told about income. He was told the church should be able to generate money to run itself, and shouldn't be running at loss.
They made a mistake in giving him the explanation, thinking he won't go public because of the fear of the wrath of God, but nigga is a Tiv man, dem no dey fear like that, he spilt everything.
Imagine if the church was in bonny island, and they couldn't grow in numbers, but have a fat income, would they sack the pastor?
Besides, when they talk about winning souls, do they mean leading people to Christ, or bringing members to their church? Because I don't see why you will be dragging someone who is attending a church already to come to your church, claiming to be winning souls.
Furthermore, I don't know if I have ever seen a living faith member who is living a Christlike life. Church is just gymnastic for most of them. The only thing they take seriously is paying of tithe, which is the emphasis of their messages by the way

Where you there when he was told it's all about income? Was it stated in the letter made available online? What proof do you have of this allegations against the church?

Sometimes, I just wonder why people have this hatred in them against the church. Now, you want to support the pastor without verifying if this is true or not because you just need any ground to attack the church.

Back to some of the issues you raised, will souls won be left roaming the street or led to attend church for spiritual growth? Or do you abandon someone won to Christ and not followup on his spiritual growth? Even the Bible affirms this.

You don't have to see any LFC members living godly life, it's not meant for you to see but for God to see. Judgment day does not take into consideration what you see but what God saw. Let's be guided.

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Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by 12345baba(m): 2:44pm On Jul 22, 2021
If they are unfruitful make them fruitful

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Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Kobojunkie: 2:45pm On Jul 22, 2021
FRANKOSKI:

TEACH ME AND STOP ASKING QUESTIONS, WE LEARN FROM ONE ANOTHER OK....
First, you need to stop gobbling up the lies and deceit sold you by men you call Mog so you can see and know God's Truth as taught by Jesus Christ Himself. undecided

It is only when you stop eating the food fed you by your so-called pastors that you can actually begin to eat the food that God has been offering to you for over 2000 years now. undecided

So your choice! undecided
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by ensamy(m): 2:45pm On Jul 22, 2021
CharisEleos:
What are they doing to draw people to the church for numerical growth?

Let them take a cue from the early Churches by the apostles. How they managed and took care of the churches.

They was a Mad man of the Gatheren that had Legions of demons that Jesus healed by casting out 2000 demons out of him. They was a blind Bahtemus and Above all they was a man at the pool of Bethsaida impotent ( unfruitful) for 38years , Behold Jesus Christ never gave up on these ones. 38years of no income or increase by the man at the pool of Bethsaida but still Christ found him worthy to receive his grace of healing. So the way we humans sees success is not how God sees it because God looks at the heart.
As a man of God he should never have given up on them, keep looking for how make them fruitful.

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Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Nauttyprof(m): 2:45pm On Jul 22, 2021
FarahAideed:


My sister by fruitful he means they were not attracting enough people and that translates to low income

It does not translate to low income. It only translates to the Pastor just being after the monthly salary and free accommodation.
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by eddyroyal(m): 2:46pm On Jul 22, 2021
FRANKOSKI:
LET'S HEAR WHAT BIBLE SAYS ABOUT A TREE THAT DOESN'T BEAR FRUIT IN THE BOOK OF LUKE 13:6-9
Let's hear what the Bible has to say about growth in the book of 1Corinthians 3:6
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by FRANKOSKI(m): 2:46pm On Jul 22, 2021
Kobojunkie:
First, you need to stop gobbling up the lies and deceit sold you by men you call Mog so you can see and know God's Truth as taught by Jesus Christ Himself. undecided

It is only when you stop eating the food fed you by your so-called pastors that you can actually begin to eat the food that God has been offering to you for over 2000 years now. undecided

So your choice! undecided
THIS IS AS EMPTY AND DELUDING AS IT COMES.
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by FRANKOSKI(m): 2:47pm On Jul 22, 2021
eddyroyal:

Let's hear what the Bible has to say about growth in the book of 1Corinthians 3:6
BLESS YOU DEAR
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Image123(m): 2:47pm On Jul 22, 2021
ensamy:

Thank you very much. Bishop Oyedepo was supposed to turn them to be profitable servant no matter how bad there are. God doesn't give up on his servants. That's why Jesus is the Good sherpherd he never gives up on anyone.

Lol, they are not sacked from the kingdom of God or from the church, are they? They are replaced. They can go ahead and improve. Jesus replaced many people in the Bible.
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by nedekid: 2:47pm On Jul 22, 2021
BafanaBafana:
The sacked pastor in this case was explicitly told about income. He was told the church should be able to generate money to run itself, and shouldn't be running at loss.
They made a mistake in giving him the explanation, thinking he won't go public because of the fear of the wrath of God, but nigga is a Tiv man, dem no dey fear like that, he spilt everything.
Imagine if the church was in bonny island, and they couldn't grow in numbers, but have a fat income, would they sack the pastor?
Besides, when they talk about winning souls, do they mean leading people to Christ, or bringing members to their church? Because I don't see why you will be dragging someone who is attending a church already to come to your church, claiming to be winning souls.
Furthermore, I don't know if I have ever seen a living faith member who is living a Christlike life. Church is just gymnastic for most of them. The only thing they take seriously is paying of tithe, which is the emphasis of their messages by the way
I never for once considered the sack to be about money. Even if it were, will you keep a worker that does not grow your business ie make sales yet wants to receive steady and full salary? Where Wil the money come from?
If the pastor is not growing the church, no members, why not honorably resign?
Anyway one thing I agree with you is that I have never seen a winners member living a christain life. Lolz, my paddy who even has their fellowship in his house and factory is the highest nacker, just like dauda the sexy guy, nigger can nack 2-3 different chicks a day drinks like a fish also. But on Sunday, na elder for church. grin

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Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Femeto: 2:48pm On Jul 22, 2021
More souls = More money grin grin grin grin grin wink
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by stancydg: 2:48pm On Jul 22, 2021
The issue really is a lot of folks can't fathom the excellence and glory being displayed by the Church. They had erroneous beliefs thinking that if it wasn't poor, ugly, cringing and maybe gullible, it shouldn't be righteous or holy. So, when the church displays excellence in it's administration and other aspects of existence, their minds can't accept it.

They prefer to continue with "the as poor as a church rat" or even the "holy people always dress unattractively" mentality. So, they couldn't even imagine church getting rich, talk more of putting in place common sense mechanisms in ensuring it's development. On the other hand, they prefer it that way, so the church can remain ineffective and lose souls that otherwise should be saved. But they haven't seen anything yet. They're still envious of church organisations now. Very soon, they'll start losing sleep over the blessedness and effectiveness of individual believers worldwide.

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Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Tolani1122(m): 2:48pm On Jul 22, 2021
SexyBabe001:
I know the sacked pastors were lying
who be this ,tell me the difference. When u ask your employees to go and not to come back to work anymore

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Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by imam07: 2:48pm On Jul 22, 2021
FarahAideed:


He just confirmed what the pastors said and you even saw the explanation in the letter yet you said they are lying....He did no wrong by sacking unproductive staff ...if the can't be.fruitful for the church the should go and become regular members let pastors that understand the game takeover. .. for example I hate going to any church with Luke warm Akamu spirit that will kill your ginger once they open their mouth talking Slurred
firstly did d sacked letter contains anything about money or income that u all relate this to money. Is it just because of hatred for the man of God.
Secondly, did u read anything in their letter that says u are sack from being a member of living Faith church. Is d letter showing the pastors should not attend living Faith church. I ask u

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Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Nauttyprof(m): 2:49pm On Jul 22, 2021
Jack14:
He wouldn't say it because of income na
Besides no soul no income undecided


In rural areas, how much will they gather to pay a pastor's salary and grant him free accommodation first before generating more fund for the headquarters. Then, also remember church expenses too as it is not just programmes but expenses are involved in church weekly activities.

Before you type something else I had a first hand experience in a rural area where a church was established. In fact, the Pastor in charge wanted to give up if not for the fact that he believed God's calling wasn't a mistake.

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Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Fidelarinze9(m): 2:50pm On Jul 22, 2021
YorubaKinging:
The end is near

Lying oyedepo at it again

We all know you sacked the pastors because of low income turn-in

But the time comes when all false prophets will be disgraced

By that time, thier yeye followers will be shouting "this is war against christians'

They won't know they are paying for thier crimes

Pathetic, really pathetic what you just spewed.

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