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Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by GardenOfGod(m): 10:43pm On Aug 05, 2021

GardenOfGod:
Exodus 35
New Century Version
Rules About the Sabbath
Moses gathered all the Israelite community together and said to them, “These are the things the Lord has commanded you to do.
2 You are to work for six days, but the seventh day will be a holy day, a Sabbath of rest to honor the Lord. Anyone who works on that day must be put to death.
3 On the Sabbath day you must not light a fire in any of your houses.

Still on Sabbath..

Exodus 31:14-15
New International Version
14 “‘Observe the Sabbath, because it is holy to you. Anyone who desecrates it is to be put to death; those who do any work on that day must be cut off from their people.
15 For six days work is to be done, but the seventh day is a day of sabbath rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day is to be put to death.

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Bishopkingsley(op): 10:45pm On Aug 05, 2021

GardenOfGod:
That your statement is to question the intelligence and law of God. Do you know that? That's blasphemy... Are you aware that you cannot question God?

That is not a question

The reason why God made ceremonial laws to be hard is so that people will cry to him for help not that people will actually do the ceremonial laws

Because no one can keep them all at once

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Dtruthspeaker: 10:48pm On Aug 05, 2021

Bishopkingsley:
You can lie to yourself
But the scriptures can not be broken
God said the heart of all men is evil continually

And he provides a solution
So lie to yourself that your heart do not carry hate, tribalism, anger, lust, etc

Continue to lie at the end of the day you will cry to God to help you

As all men must do

List of sins in heart

Needing to Always to claim holiness
Finding Fault with Others
Withholding Good from Others
Seeing Others As Competition
Practicing Partiality
Boasting in Yourself
Indulging in Questionable Activities
Seeing Others As Competition

There are over one billion sins the heart can commit

Not mine!

As I said earlier, the Proof of Keeping The Laws of God is Blessings, Favours and Continuous Goodness!

And I have these things!

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by GardenOfGod(m): 10:48pm On Aug 05, 2021*

Bishopkingsley:
That is not a question

The reason why God made ceremonial laws to be hard is so that people will cry to him for help not that people will actually do the ceremonial laws

Because no one can keep them all at once

Your opinion is irrelevant in things of God... Remember Uzzah?

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Bishopkingsley(op): 10:52pm On Aug 05, 2021

Dtruthspeaker:
I am not moving in any circle, it is you who is looking for a place to stand by changing posts again and again because I elected to respond to you despite your change of posts.

Well, this is my last response on this issue.

For you to ask this clearly proves how you do not pay very close attention to what you read in the Bible, therefore you missed the part where Esau was exactly like Lamech in Genesis 4, son if evil and disobedience, who had 2 wives in Breach of The Law of God on Marriage which is "He made them male and female" and not male and females.

Secondly, when he saw that the daughters of Canaan pleased not his father Isaac, According to the Commandment of Abraham that none of his children should take a wife from the daughters of Canaan, (which I know that from his walk with God, Abraham knew that God did not like them).

Esau broke that Law and married the daughters of Canaan.

What you say is not what God is trying to point out

God said 'I have loved Jacob, but Esau I have hated,

God said this statement before they were born

You are moving in circle again

Now I ask you what Esau did wrong before he was born that made God to say that

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by GardenOfGod(m): 10:54pm On Aug 05, 2021

GardenOfGod:
Still on Sabbath..

Exodus 31:14-15
New International Version
14 “‘Observe the Sabbath, because it is holy to you. Anyone who desecrates it is to be put to death; those who do any work on that day must be cut off from their people.
15 For six days work is to be done, but the seventh day is a day of sabbath rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day is to be put to death.

Exodus 20:8-11
New International Version
8 “Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy.
9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work,
10 but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns.
11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by GardenOfGod(m): 10:58pm On Aug 05, 2021

Bishopkingsley:
That is not a question

The reason why God made ceremonial laws to be hard is so that people will cry to him for help not that people will actually do the ceremonial laws

Because no one can keep them all at once

If it is not your own opinion please support the statement with portion of the scriptures.

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Bishopkingsley(op): 11:11pm On Aug 05, 2021

GardenOfGod:
If it is not your own opinion please support the statement with portion of the scriptures.

Romans 7
King James Version
7 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?

2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.

3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.

4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.

6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.

9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.

14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.

16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.

17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

**×****************'' '' '
From verse seven he was talking about how the law is tough and good

Coming down he shows how it difficult to actually do it even when your inner man want to obey God

At verse 24
He cries for help

24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

At 25 he show all of us the solution to the cry

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by GardenOfGod(m): 11:14pm On Aug 05, 2021

Bishopkingsley:
That is not a question

The reason why God made ceremonial laws to be hard is so that people will cry to him for help not that people will actually do the ceremonial laws

Because no one can keep them all at once

[b]The story of Uzzah and the Ark of the Covenant comes to mind.
It is found in 2 Samuel 6:1-7 and 1 Chronicles 13:9-12. As the ark was being transported, the oxen pulling the cart stumbled, and a man named Uzzah took hold of the ark. God’s anger burned against Uzzah and He struck him down and he died. Uzzah’s punishment does appear to be extreme for what we might consider to be a good deed. However, there are the reasons why God took such severe action.

First, God had given Moses and Aaron specific instructions about the Tent of Meeting and the movement of the Ark of the Covenant. "After Aaron and his sons have finished covering the holy furnishings and all the holy articles, and when the camp is ready to move, the Kohathites are to come to do the carrying. But they must not touch the holy things or they will die. The Kohathites are to carry those things that are in the Tent of Meeting”
(Numbers 4:15). No matter how innocently it was done, touching the ark was in direct violation of God’s law and was to result in death. This was a means of preserving the sense of God’s holiness and the fear of drawing near to Him without appropriate preparation.

Notice how David took men with him to collect the ark, rather than allowing the Levites to bring it to him. That was a great mistake, since it ought never to have been put upon a cart, old or new. It was to be borne upon men’s shoulders, and carried by Levites only, and those of the family of Kohath (Exodus 25:12-14; Numbers 7:9), using the poles prescribed. Failing to follow God’s precise instructions would be seen as a. not revering God’s words when He spoke them through those such as Moses, whom He had appointed; b. having an independent attitude that might border on rebellion, i.e., seeing and acting on things from a worldly, rather than a spiritual, perspective; or c. disobedience[/b]

Same strict adherence was demanded from the children of Israel on keeping of the laws of Sabbath.
No excuses!

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by GardenOfGod(m): 11:30pm On Aug 05, 2021

Bishopkingsley:
Romans 7
King James Version
7 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?

2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.

3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.

4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.

25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

**×****************'' '' '
From verse seven he was talking about how the law is tough and good

Coming down he shows how it difficult to actually do it even when your inner man want to obey God

At verse 24
He cries for help

24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

At 25 he show all of us the solution to the cry

1. This portion is addressed to "Christians" in Rome as is indicated in verse 4, and not to "Old Testament Israel" therefore, your point is invalid!

2. Verse 2. For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband
According to this verse 2, was Israel loosed from the law? Or are they still under that law?

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Bishopkingsley(op): 11:44pm On Aug 05, 2021

GardenOfGod:
1. This portion is addressed to "Christians" in Rome as is indicated in verse 4, and not to "Old Testament Israel" therefore, your point is invalid!

2. Verse 2. For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband
According to this verse 2, was Israel loosed from the law? Or are they still under that law?

Do you believe in Jesus

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by GardenOfGod(m): 11:52pm On Aug 05, 2021

Bishopkingsley:
Do you believe in Jesus

Bishopkingsley:
This shows you don't even believe in Jesus

Bishopkingsley:
Do you actually believe in Jesus

When you are hooked, you resort to this! grin

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by GardenOfGod(m): 11:57pm On Aug 05, 2021

GardenOfGod:
Let me ask you a similar question....
Is there a word "God" in the Book of Ruth?

If there is no "Holy Spirit" as a term in the Old Testament, are you not supposed to ask a question as to why? Instead of trying to play smart?

You did not answer this...

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Bishopkingsley(op): 1:11am On Aug 06, 2021*

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Bishopkingsley(op): 8:22am On Aug 06, 2021

GardenOfGod:
You did not answer this...

Ruth 4:14 (ESV)
14 Then the women said to Naomi, “Blessed be the Lord, who has not left you this day without a redeemer, and may his name be renowned in Israel!

Ruth 1:6 (NLT)
6 Then Naomi heard in Moab that the Lord had blessed his people in Judah by giving them good crops again. So Naomi and her daughters-in-law got ready to leave Moab to return to her homeland.

Lord is the same as God

I told you there is holy spirit in the old testament and you are trying to be wiser than God who designed the Bible

I told you the reason why in each dispensation God shows himself in a new dimension which is unique and awesome

God is too vast to be put in a box
I still told you that in the life to come God will show us another part of himself which will Marvel us the more God is infinite in all things and he made our heart infinite which he will continue to fill for eternity

If you believed in Jesus you will believe in the holy spirit name in the old testament for the holy spirit is equally with God because he is God

But from what I can see
You don't believe in Jesus

Because you have refused to declare it

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by GardenOfGod(m): 9:06am On Aug 06, 2021

Bishopkingsley:
Ruth 4:14 (ESV)
14 Then the women said to Naomi, “Blessed be the Lord, who has not left you this day without a redeemer, and may his name be renowned in Israel!

Ruth 1:6 (NLT)
6 Then Naomi heard in Moab that the Lord had blessed his people in Judah by giving them good crops again. So Naomi and her daughters-in-law got ready to leave Moab to return to her homeland.

Lord is the same as God

I told you there is holy spirit in the old testament and you are trying to be wiser than God who designed the Bible

I told you the reason why in each dispensation God shows himself in a new dimension which is unique and awesome

God is too vast to be put in a box
I still told you that in the life to come God will show us another part of himself which will Marvel us the more God is infinite in all things and he made our heart infinite which he will continue to fill for eternity

If you believed in Jesus you will believe in the holy spirit name in the old testament for the holy spirit is equally with God because he is God

But from what I can see
You don't believe in Jesus

Because you have refused to declare it

Holy Spirit is All knowing, Jehovah is All knowing. Don't try to be more smarter than the inspired writers of the Bible. Lord is a word that could be used even to judges in the law Court. Sarah used to call Abraham "my Lord".... Does that make Abraham God?

I don't like arguing blindly, show me in the Book of Ruth the WORD "GOD" not "LORD"

Show me the word "Holy Spirit" in the Old Testament.

No stories!

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Bishopkingsley(op): 10:03am On Aug 06, 2021

GardenOfGod:
Holy Spirit is All knowing, Jehovah is All knowing. Don't try to be more smarter than the inspired writers of the Bible. Lord is a word that could be used even to judges in the law Court. Sarah used to call Abraham "my Lord".... Does that make Abraham God?

I don't like arguing blindly, show me in the Book of Ruth the WORD "GOD" not "LORD"

Show me the word "Holy Spirit" in the Old Testament.

No stories!

Funny
People can answer any name people can answer Jesus even God does that mean they are Jesus or God

The sentence or words is what will show you
If the person is who they are

You want to be wise but it can't happen you are looking for a loop hole in the Bible you can't see one

If my explanation doesn't satisfy you
Then you are not of God

Because you refuse to believe in Jesus which shows you don't believe in the holy spirit

Rathet you are a sabbath believer

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by GardenOfGod(m): 11:21am On Aug 06, 2021

Bishopkingsley:
Funny
People can answer any name people can answer Jesus even God does that mean they are Jesus or God

You are diverting from the point on ground.
What brought that issue of God and Holy Spirit? Its because you said that it is the Holy Spirit that makes a Christian to do the works of righteousness. And you set example of Sabbath keeping taught by Jesus. And I asked you, was it the Holy Spirit that enabled the children of Israel to keep sabbath? Your answer was Yes And No. Saying that the law of Sabbath was not stable. I then requested to show me where the Holy Spirit is written in the Old Testament to confirm your assertions, but till now you have been beating around the bush.

Verdict: the term "Holy Spirit" was not known by the children of Israel and was not in use as at that time.

Bishopkingsley:
You want to be wise but it can't happen you are looking for a loop hole in the Bible you can't see one

There are no loopholes in the inspired writings of God.
Loopholes are rather in your carnal interpretation. You were found wanting in an attempt to support your views, when I pointed out that lie, you quickly retracted your earlier statement. Pathetic!

Bishopkingsley:
If my explanation doesn't satisfy you
Then you are not of God

How more blasphemous could this statement sound. So it your own explanation that would be used to determine if I am of God or not. You have made yourself a God's rule for judgement.
Congratulations!

Bishopkingsley:
Because you refuse to believe in Jesus which shows you don't believe in the holy spirit

I believe in Jesus, I believe in the Holy Spirit and I believe in God.
But since you are "God's rule of judgement" you think I don't believe. Good luck for that.

Bishopkingsley:
Rathet you are a sabbath believer

My Master is the Lord of Sabbath and he brought me a new and better covenant than the old one, which has the laws of Sabbath in it. So I am not under such law anymore and of course it wasn't meant for me to keep it in the first place.

Am done with you at this point please.
Thanks for engaging me so far.

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Image123(m): 11:24am On Aug 06, 2021

HardMirror:
lol. you that knows, can you tell me how you got to know God's commands? at least if i dont even learn, someone else would learn from your sensible post and not be mislead by me. so please go ahead and tell us what god ever wrote

You just established a criterion that God must write to be God?

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Bishopkingsley(op): 11:50am On Aug 06, 2021

GardenOfGod:
You are diverting from the point on ground.
What brought that issue of God and Holy Spirit? Its because you said that it is the Holy Spirit that makes a Christian to do the works of righteousness. And you set example of Sabbath keeping taught by Jesus. And I asked you, was it the Holy Spirit that enabled the children of Israel to keep sabbath? Your answer was Yes And No. Saying that the law of Sabbath was not stable. I then requested to show me where the Holy Spirit is written in the Old Testament to confirm your assertions, but till now you have been beating around the bush.

Verdict: the term "Holy Spirit" was not known by the children of Israel and was not in use as at that time.

There are no loopholes in the inspired writings of God.
Loopholes are rather in your carnal interpretation. You were found wanting in an attempt to support your views, when I pointed out that lie, you quickly retracted your earlier statement. Pathetic!

How more blasphemous could this statement sound. So it your own explanation that would be used to determine if I am of God or not. You have made yourself a God's rule for judgement.
Congratulations!

I believe in Jesus, I believe in the Holy Spirit and I believe in God.
But since you are "God's rule of judgement" you think I don't believe. Good luck for that.

My Master is the Lord of Sabbath and he brought me a new and better covenant than the old one, which has the laws of Sabbath in it. So I am not under such law anymore and of course it wasn't meant for me to keep it in the first place.

Am done with you at this point please.
Thanks for engaging me so far.

then requested to show me where the Holy Spirit is written in the Old Testament to confirm your assertions,

Wrong
You said show me where holy spirit is written in Old testament

You did not say to confirm your assertions,

Now God is the holy spirit so what point
Do you need to prove that your thoughts

Are you saying that God did not help Israel to be able to carry out his laws

Now even if there was no prove of the Holy Spirit as you so wish

Are you saying holy spirit does not have a work in the salvation of man

Before you ask this kind of question

Make sure you know who you worship

That why I said do you believe in Jesus at all

But because you don't believe in Jesus that why you question what God said in the Bible

Now that you believe Jesus show me where Jesus was written in the Old testament

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Bishopkingsley(op): 11:54am On Aug 06, 2021

GardenOfGod:
You are diverting from the point on ground.
What brought that issue of God and Holy Spirit? Its because you said that it is the Holy Spirit that makes a Christian to do the works of righteousness. And you set example of Sabbath keeping taught by Jesus. And I asked you, was it the Holy Spirit that enabled the children of Israel to keep sabbath? Your answer was Yes And No. Saying that the law of Sabbath was not stable. I then requested to show me where the Holy Spirit is written in the Old Testament to confirm your assertions, but till now you have been beating around the bush.

Verdict: the term "Holy Spirit" was not known by the children of Israel and was not in use as at that time.

There are no loopholes in the inspired writings of God.
Loopholes are rather in your carnal interpretation. You were found wanting in an attempt to support your views, when I pointed out that lie, you quickly retracted your earlier statement. Pathetic!

How more blasphemous could this statement sound. So it your own explanation that would be used to determine if I am of God or not. You have made yourself a God's rule for judgement.
Congratulations!

I believe in Jesus, I believe in the Holy Spirit and I believe in God.
But since you are "God's rule of judgement" you think I don't believe. Good luck for that.

My Master is the Lord of Sabbath and he brought me a new and better covenant than the old one, which has the laws of Sabbath in it. So I am not under such law anymore and of course it wasn't meant for me to keep it in the first place.

Am done with you at this point please.
Thanks for engaging me so far.

Verdict: the term "Holy Spirit" was not known by the children of Israel and was not in use as at that time.

Wrong
The children of Israel knew the holy spirit very well

The same Holy Spirit was upon Samson and he was able to carry out justice using divine strength

It fell on Moses David Joshua etc

Am done with you at this point please.
Thanks for engaging me so far....... Funny ok

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by GardenOfGod(m): 12:20pm On Aug 06, 2021

Bishopkingsley:
Verdict: the term "Holy Spirit" was not known by the children of Israel and was not in use as at that time.

Wrong
The children of Israel knew the holy spirit very well

The same Holy Spirit was upon Samson and he was able to carry out justice using divine strength

It fell on Moses David Joshua etc

Am done with you at this point please.
Thanks for engaging me so far....... Funny ok

You need to understand my point. The term "Holy Spirit" was never mentioned to them.

Genesis 17 :1
17 When Abram was ninety-nine years old, the Lord appeared to him and said, “I am God Almighty; walk before me faithfully and be blameless."

COMPARE:
Exodus 6:3
I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac and to Jacob as God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH I did not make myself fully known to them.

DO YOU GET THE GIST?
God Jehovah was not known to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as "JEHOVAH", but as "GOD Almighty".

Same as HOLY SPIRIT was not known to all of them by the name "HOLY SPIRIT".

Stop arguing again!!!

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by GardenOfGod(m): 12:39pm On Aug 06, 2021

Bishopkingsley:
Verdict: the term "Holy Spirit" was not known by the children of Israel and was not in use as at that time.

Wrong
The children of Israel knew the holy spirit very well

The same Holy Spirit was upon Samson and he was able to carry out justice using divine strength

It fell on Moses David Joshua etc

Am done with you at this point please.
Thanks for engaging me so far....... Funny ok

GardenOfGod:
1. This portion is addressed to "Christians" in Rome as is indicated in verse 4, and not to "Old Testament Israel" therefore, your point is invalid!

2. Verse 2. For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband

According to this verse 2,

was Israel loosed from the law?
Or are they still under that law?

You did not answer this question huh

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Bishopkingsley(op): 12:45pm On Aug 06, 2021

GardenOfGod:
You did not answer this question

Since you claim you believe in Jesus

Show me Jesus name in the old testament

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by GardenOfGod(m): 12:49pm On Aug 06, 2021

Bishopkingsley:
Now that you believe Jesus show me where Jesus was written in the Old testament

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by GardenOfGod(m): 12:52pm On Aug 06, 2021

Bishopkingsley:
Since you claim you believe in Jesus

Show me Jesus name in the old testament

You need to understand the point i was trying to make first before we go into my own....
Do you agree with me that the term "Holy Spirit" is not in the Old Testament?

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Bishopkingsley(op): 12:57pm On Aug 06, 2021

GardenOfGod:
You need to understand the point i was trying to make first before we go into my own....
Do you agree with me that the term "Holy Spirit" is not in the Old Testament?

You don't get the point the term don't matter what count is

Spirit of God is the same as holy spirit

That what counts
God the son is the same as Jesus

That is what you should know before trying to think that there was no holy spirit in the old testament

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Bishopkingsley(op): 12:58pm On Aug 06, 2021

GardenOfGod:
You need to understand the point i was trying to make first before we go into my own....
Do you agree with me that the term "Holy Spirit" is not in the Old Testament?

Holy spirit was in the old testament bearing different kinds of name

Same with Jesus

Jesus was called everlasting father too

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by GardenOfGod(m): 1:04pm On Aug 06, 2021

Bishopkingsley:
Holy spirit was in the old testament bearing different kinds of name

Same with Jesus

Jesus was called everlasting father too

Na you ask me question na you come answer am
cheesy

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by GardenOfGod(m): 1:05pm On Aug 06, 2021

Bishopkingsley:
You don't get the point the term don't matter what count is

Spirit of God is the same as holy spirit

That what counts
God the son is the same as Jesus

That is what you should know before trying to think that there was no holy spirit in the old testament

You are ashamed to admit defeat bro. grin

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Bishopkingsley(op): 1:12pm On Aug 06, 2021*

GardenOfGod:
Na you ask me question na you come answer am

I told that before yet you refuse to believe it I list out the different names of the Holy Spirit you refused to listen
Now

I answered it again because you couldn't answer it

That was almost the 7th time that I asked you that question, which you fail to answer or did not even know the answer

My brother the word of God is my food
I feed on it

I live it
I know what I say I have experienced almost every thing in the Bible
So when I say something I don't say it from head knowledge only, no

I say it from both head knowledge and experience and vision I have seen

So I know what I say
It real to me like the phone in my hand

Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫righteousness Of God Not According To Works by Bishopkingsley(op): 1:17pm On Aug 06, 2021

GardenOfGod:
You are ashamed to admit defeat bro.

How can I be defeated
When the word itself lives in me

I already knew where you were headed before I even switched it and asked you do you believe in Jesus

You knew what I was trying to say and you ran away from answering it

I don't want to play mind games that why I cut to the chase and broke it down for you so that you can feel happy and you ended up saying I believe in Jesus

You were the one who gave up your tricks
Any trick of the children of those who don't really know God as I do or experienced him like me I know how they think because I was like them before until God showed me his mystery

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