Dtruthspeaker:


Truth is my friend therefore, I am standing on and with it, not fighting it.

Which is why after my answer, you have no reasonable and valid way to counter and that is very fine with me.

Dtruthspeaker:


Truth is my friend therefore, I am standing on and with it, not fighting it.

Which is why after my answer, you have no reasonable and valid way to counter and that is very fine with me.

Dtruthspeaker:


Then you were not in class when God said "TURN YOU AT MY REPROOF:"

after that, "... I will pour out my Spirit unto you, I will make known my words into you". Proverbs 1:23.

Bishopkingsley:


That scripture has no impact on this topic because the turn you part is about believing in the one who God sent

Jesus proves it by showing
What the work of God actually means

GardenOfGod:


@the emboldened:
That statement in itself is "boastful" that was exactly what Paul was trying to AVOID! "so that no man will" boast ".

Also,
[b]There is "God's righteousness" and there is "Christian's righteousness"
Eg. Of Christians righteousness is in
1. John. 14:15, "if you love me keep my COMMANDMENT (righteousness)"

2. 1 John. 5:3, "for this is the love of God, that we keep his COMMANDMENTS (Righteousness)"

3. 1 John 3:4–10. "Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness.(unrighteousness)
5 You know that he (Christ) appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin.
6 No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him.
7 Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous.
8 Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was rto destroy the works of the devil.
9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God.
10 By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who udoes not love his brother"

4. As Christians, you are expected to do what 2 Peter 1:3-9 says which is an act of righteousness,
"3 His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly (righteousness) life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness.
4 Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature, having escaped the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.
5 For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith goodness; and to goodness, knowledge;
6 and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness;
7 and to godliness, mutual affection; and to mutual affection, love.
8 For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 But whoever does not have them is nearsighted and blind, forgetting that they have been cleansed from their past sins[/b]

God's righteousness is expressed in the spiritual working of man's salvation.

Man know thyself!

Dtruthspeaker:


Is this not the Same Christ Jesus speaking here in Proverbs?

Did Christ Jesus not say "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life" (John 14:6)?

Is this not Christ Jesus who spoke herein in Proverbs below?

Chapter 8:20-30
"I lead in the WAY of Righteousness, in the midst of the paths of judgement; (John 14:6) - THE WAY!

That I may cause those that love me to inherit substance; and I will fill their treasures.

22 The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. (John 1:1)

24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.

25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:

26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.

27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:

28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:

29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:

30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him; (John1:1)

Verse 8:7
"For MY MOUTH SHALL SPEAK TRUTH" (John 14:6)- THE TRUTH

Proverbs 3:13, 18, 21, 22
"Wisdom is a TREE OF LIFE to them that lay hold upon her. Keep sound wisdom and discretion:

So shall they be Life unto thy soul,.... (John 14:6) THE LIFE.

You must DO THE TURNING YOURSELF!

"If thou Turn and Do the Words of The Lord, thou do it for thyself. If thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it."

I am done!

Bishopkingsley:


https://www.nairaland.com/6686766/righteousness-god-not-according-works

Show me where God speaks or Bible show Christian Righteousness


1. John. 14:15, "if you love me keep my COMMANDMENT

Lol

That is not Christian Righteousness

Stop adding to Bible

GardenOfGod:

Have you not read the numerous examples of the scriptures I quoted for you?

Bishopkingsley:


Show me where Bible state Christian Righteousness

Just show me don't add your own word to it and say it the meaning of Christian Righteousness

GardenOfGod:

Have you not read the numerous examples of the scriptures I quoted for you?

GardenOfGod:

What is the meaning of righteousness?

Bishopkingsley:

The definition of doing good works of man vs what God defines good works

Dtruthspeaker:


No sir, you imported me from the thread which was laying down the Truth that RIGHTEOUSNESS SHOULD AND MUST BE DONE BY The True Children of God, wherein I said all the things you sought to oppose but you can now see that you are Off-Way!

Bishopkingsley:



There is "God's righteousness" and there is "Christian's righteousness"
Eg. Of Christians righteousness is in
1. John. 14:15, "if you love me keep my COMMANDMENT (righteousness)"

That completely wrong and not from God to say there is Christian Righteousness

Bishopkingsley:


Bible say Righteousness is a gift

It is ability to do good work according to how God wants it

Righteousness is the condition of being in right relationship with the Lord. This can only happen through total faith and dependence upon Christ.

GardenOfGod:


Ok....
What does it mean to "work out your salvation with fear and trembling?"

What about this....

"Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous"

Don't you think if you practice RIGHTEOUSNESS and you become righteous, it's "your righteousness as a Christian?"

GardenOfGod:


@the bolden please list out the "good works" that translate to mean "righteousness" let's compare and contrast.

Bishopkingsley:


It is ability to do good work according to how God wants it

Answer

First you can't do good works that God requires
Until you do this below

John 6:29
New International Version
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

New Living Translation
Jesus told them, “This is the only work God wants from you: Believe in the one he has sent.”

Until you accept Jesus as your lord God and Savior

Bishopkingsley:


My brother

What does it mean to [b]"work out your salvation with fear and trembling?"

What about this....

"Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous"

Answer

This place is directly talking to those who
Have the holy spirit those who already now have the Righteousness of God in Christ Jesus

It talking to them to become aware of the gift in them for them to work it out by doing the things of God since they now have the power because some think since they have holy spirit they don't need to work good works so Paul is reminding them to do good works

Someone who has not accepted Jesus does not have the power to stop sin or does not have the Righteousness of God in Christ Jesus

**************

Don't you think if you practice RIGHTEOUSNESS and you become righteous, it's "your righteousness as a Christian?"

Answer

If you practice Righteousness

Without accepting Jesus as your lord God and Savior and without receiving the holy spirit

God says that your Righteousness
Is self Righteousness

And means nothing to him

GardenOfGod:

You are confusing yourself.
Please was Peter talking to unbelievers in 2 Peter 1:1-9?

Please was John talking to those who did not accept, or believe in Jesus in 1 John 3:7-10?

GardenOfGod:


Before I started I said that it is good to rightly dividing the word of truth...
It is also good to be in depth and comprehensive in the studies of the scriptures.

Chech what you are typing because you have ended up trying to amend your original post.

Bishopkingsley:


you are completely confused with the [b]steps of salvation[/]

First God is actually the one who enables any one to believe in Jesus

After he does this great work for you
You can now accept Jesus into your life

Next he gives you the holy spirit
The holy spirit gives you the Righteousness of God in Christ Jesus

From there Christ begins to form inside you and God write his laws in your heart

Which will enable you to be able to do good work and sin will not have dominion over you

That does not mean you will not sin
But God says it won't dominate you and you are now having the Righteousness of God in Christ Jesus

Once you sin the laws of God in your heart won't let you rest until you Repent and forsake that sin

That how it works

Now if you don't accept Jesus as you lord God and Savior

Your self Righteousness is nothing to God

It as simple as 123

Bishopkingsley:


I did not mix sin with steps of Righteousness because you were the one trying to mix it as if I allow sin

That why I check you up

First accept there is nothing like Christian Righteousness

GardenOfGod:
Please was Peter talking to unbelievers in 2 Peter 1:1-9?

Please was John talking to those who did not accept, or believe in Jesus in 1 John 3:7-10?

GardenOfGod:


You believe in trinity, yet there is no such as trinity in the Bible.
Same thing as "Christian Righteousness". It is term used to express Christian ways of expected daily living as is evident in the 2 portions I submitted.

GardenOfGod:

Please answer this questions

Bishopkingsley:


1 John 3:7-10?



7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother

*****'' '' *'' '.' '**********
1 John 3:7-10?
Little children... 1 John. The First Letter of John was apparently addressed to a group of churches where “false prophets,” denounced as Antichrist, denied the Incarnation of Jesus



Now look at what John say here1 John 3:8....
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil;

And look at what he equally says here
first John...... 1John 1:8

[8] If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. [9] If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. [10] If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.


Do you see one place is talking about both every one, people who come to church general preaching

The other place is to people who already have the holy spirit

If you doubt it explain why two sentences contradicts each other

*******'' ''. '*******
Peter 1:1-9?
Let me study this to answer it soon

Bishopkingsley:


1 Peter 1:1-9
King James Version
1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,

5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:

7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:

8 Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:

9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.(

. 1 Peter is addressed to the "elect resident aliens" scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia. The five areas listed in 1:1 as the geographical location of the first readers were Roman provinces in Asia Minor.

To born again

GardenOfGod:

There is no Contradiction in that passage.
Bro. John was admonishing the church on Christian living. As those who abide in Christ should not sin but do righteousness. When you are born of God the spirit of God will quicken you from committing sin.
Vrs 10 says that between sin and righteousness, the true children of God will be made manifest.

But you are saying that no one is justified by his righteousness. It is you that contradict yourself.

Bishopkingsley:


1 John 3:7-10?



7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother

*****'' '' *'' '.' '**********
1 John 3:7-10?
Little children... 1 John. The First Letter of John was apparently addressed to a group of churches where “false prophets,” denounced as Antichrist, denied the Incarnation of Jesus



Now look at what John say here1 John 3:8....
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil;

And look at what he equally says here
first John...... 1John 1:8

[8] If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. [9] If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. [10] If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.


Do you see one place is talking about both every one, people who come to church general preaching

The other place is to people who already have the holy spirit

If you doubt it explain why two sentences contradicts each other

*******'' ''. '*******
Peter 1:1-9?
Let me study this to answer it soon