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| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by macof(m): 3:02pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
Truthbeatslies:It's your type that failed awfully in school Your assignment: Truthbeatslies:Your stupid expatiation is just that - stupid - as a result of your lack of proper education. Let me embarrass you again... Why don't you give the number of RETURNEES "dumped" on our shores - as you say it and how they outnumbered everyone else Don't run away, stand your ground and defend this claim |
| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by gregyboy(op): 3:08pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
Truthbeatslies:My younger sister is in france too. You have never been to benin, do you speak benin if i may ask..... And how come you feel attached to benin history seems you weren't born in benin |
| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by Nobody: 3:10pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
gregyboy:I have been to Benin, I lived in my grandmother's house then I moved to France later on. My uncle is an Enogie, an other of my uncles is the governor. It is only the americans who believe that your ethnicity is determined by your place of birth, mine is determined by my ancestry. I believe I was born in Kano when my dad was in the army and stationed there. |
| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by gregyboy(op): 3:18pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
Truthbeatslies:Ooh ok... And your parents taught you English or you learnt that in Nigeria |
| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by Nobody: 3:20pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
gregyboy:I learnt English in nigeria, and I can still speak it after all these years. |
| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by gregyboy(op): 3:25pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
Truthbeatslies:Wow....bro if i even come to france someday... I go like make i know my kingsman.... 9ja here is not essy i just graduated ast two months lets see what the future holds I plan to governor edo state someday i hate tue way it is... I feel i can make it great once more.... I just want to rule as governor to help my state Achieve greatness once more, i have no money, i have nothing i only got aspirations When the times comes we will be needing all of you help.... Outside and within edo |
| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by Nobody: 3:27pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
gregyboy:Have courage, work hard and smart. Sky is the limit. |
| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by TAO11(f): 5:20pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
Truthbeatslies:I have debunked this false video many, many times. See one of my comments below: (1) Regarding your bitter lies about the trans-Atlantic slave trade, the following piece-by-piece devastating refutation: (A) Contrary to your ignorance, captives weren’t taken from “all across Africa” as you imagined. Rather, captives were taken from Central Africa and West Africa — including people from Benin kingdom whom the Nupe, the Ibadan, Ogedengbe, etc. raided. (B) Contrary to your ignorance, the Yoruba people have long been known by the name Yoruba (and they’ve been living in their present homeland) for centuries prior to the period when ex-captives began to be returned to Africa. We know this because the process of returning ex-captives back ‘home’ to West Africa didn’t begin until circa the late-1700s. Whereas, there are manuscripts written in the early-1600s which list Yorubas (by their name Yoruba) among some of the ethnic groups of our region of West Africa. This manuscript which was written by Ahmed Baba in 1615 is attached below. The name Yoruba is shown in red highlight (among the other ethnic groups) as can be seen in the original manuscript as well as in the translation embedded below respectively: www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934148_5117c6d550154217817d7c66b5fa0fe6_jpeg_jpeg2a73d5172c14cf7a7da91ff200688e3e www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934147_3336ed29985b499e82c4e140b455b9fa_jpeg_jpeg62ecafabb59c692d4ba471597fdf16bb This translation was prepared by John Hunwick and Fatima Harrak for The Institute of African Studies Rabat, Morocco Oh, I should add that we know that this manuscript was written by Ahmad Baba in the year 1615 because he himself penned his date as highlighted (in the attached verso) below: www.nairaland.com/attachments/13082305_6e49d8d129844a578af9272699e1586a_jpeg_jpeg2d5891d724a6428e2c0f4e6898bd60cc The highlight here literally shows the wording “(the year) one thousand and twenty four (of the Hijrah)”. When converted from this Hijri “AH” calendar into our Gregorian “AD” calendar; the year 1024 AH falls into the year 1615 AD The formula “D = 0.9692*H + 622” proves practically useful for this conversion. In sum, your falsehood that returned-slaves (from all across Africa) are what became known as Yorubas is nothing but a but-hurt lie from a depressed bald-head. (C) These ex-captives who were of West-African origin and Central African origin were repatriated directly to Sierra-Leone and Liberia. Some began a new life there, while some decided to go back to their homeland from which they were taken ab-initio. Nobody was repatriated to south-West Nigeria, bald-head. A number of Yorubas among the returnees chose to return back to Yorubaland — just as many others who returned to their respective original homeland. (2) The only ethnic-group whom I know of who couldn’t fight their way to freedom and be returned back to Africa are ……. [take a guess]. They couldn’t think of returning until about 400 years later when some of their descendants decided to tap into the science of Genetics as a guide to finding their way back home. ~ See video. below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxDve0rwQbM The two attachments below also shows some earlier corroborative confessions made available to Dr. R. E. Bradbury by these people themselves. www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996709_af6378be36104010b036a2f7ab4096cd_jpeg_jpeg07ca8a3f5b191f4126cdcd6bf2f7faf7 www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996710_b28de88ee10a4b7a83b95532f6609396_jpeg_jpegaca1a6203806c9d893c79b42b9a6c76e [s]Please kindly help me locate one of these 5 things:(1) “Occupying a key site on the route from the Bend to Ife, Oyo was probably one of the earliest-founded provincial capitals in the Ife empire.” ~ Robin Horton, “Ancient Ife,” (1979), p.115. (2) A ”bight” is a feature of a water body (Atlantic ocean in this case). Ife, in contrast, is deep in the Yoruba interior. It is in no way near the Atlantic coast. How could the 1400s Portuguese then have named a part of the Atlantic Ocean (the bight) after it? You see your life? See how you embarrassed yourself, family and friends.(3) Yoruba is not one kingdom. It is a land of free-borns, where each of its many kingdoms has got some sovereignty. As such, the bight could not have been named after a land as a whole. It was named after one of the two major polities near the coast — particularly the one which the Portuguese first had trade relations with. Of the two major kingdoms near the coast in the late 1400s when the Portuguese first arrived, only Benin kingdom was willing to sell its people. The bight was thus named after that kingdom whom they knew. *It wasn’t until in the 1520s before Benin embargoed the sale of its men (allowing only women) due to fear of depopulation of able-bodied men. (4) First of all, Britain didn’t have any fight with Benin. It was a punishment, not a fight. It is called a “punitive expedition” for a reason. A punishment in relation to which Ovoramwen recanted and trembled in court. Imaging “canning” a child as a punitive measure for mis-behaviors, and then the child suddenly turning around to say s(he) had a fight with you. No be juju be that? ![]() There was no reason to punish Ife, hence no such expedition happened there. Instead, they helped to end the ongoing wars within Yorubaland. (5) The country called Benin Republic did not take its name from Benin kingdom. Neither does it relate to Benin kingdom. The country’s former name was “Dahomey” — a name which doesn’t reflect the diverse ethnicities in the country. The name “Benin” (after the bight which the country sits on) was then settled for due to its neutrality. “In the late 19th century French colonizers making inroads from the coastal region into the interior borrowed the name of the defeated Dahomey kingdom for the entire territory that is now Benin; the current name derives from the Bight of Benin” ~ https://www.britannica.com/place/Benin In contrast, an entire group of people in today’s Togo, have insisted to be known by the name IFE. Yes, it is the “Ife” of present Nigeria they want to be associated with. Yoruba language is being spoken in Benin Republic. Tell me where (outside of Edo state) Bini language is beinig spoken. ![]() Peace! ![]()
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| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by TAO11(f): 5:26pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
nisai:It was as I expected it to be, Benin kingdom sobs like a child after being whopped by a lady. The fraudulent baldie found his voice back (and forwent spamming) when I was away. Now that I’m back he should return to zombie mode, and lose his voice again. When truth (TAO) shows up, falsehood (Bini miscreants) perishes, for they are by their very nature bound to perish. ![]() |
| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by Nobody: 5:30pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
Truthbeatslies: |
| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by TAO11(f): 5:32pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
DEBUNKED! ![]() Truthbeatslies:I have debunked this false video many, many times. See one of my comments below: (1) Regarding your bitter lies about the trans-Atlantic slave trade, the following piece-by-piece devastating refutation: (A) Contrary to your ignorance, captives weren’t taken from “all across Africa” as you imagined. Rather, captives were taken from Central Africa and West Africa — including people from Benin kingdom whom the Nupe, the Ibadan, Ogedengbe, etc. raided. (B) Contrary to your ignorance, the Yoruba people have long been known by the name Yoruba (and they’ve been living in their present homeland) for centuries prior to the period when ex-captives began to be returned to Africa. We know this because the process of returning ex-captives back ‘home’ to West Africa didn’t begin until circa the late-1700s. Whereas, there are manuscripts written in the early-1600s which list Yorubas (by their name Yoruba) among some of the ethnic groups of our region of West Africa. This manuscript which was written by Ahmed Baba in 1615 is attached below. The name Yoruba is shown in red highlight (among the other ethnic groups) as can be seen in the original manuscript as well as in the translation embedded below respectively: www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934148_5117c6d550154217817d7c66b5fa0fe6_jpeg_jpeg2a73d5172c14cf7a7da91ff200688e3e www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934147_3336ed29985b499e82c4e140b455b9fa_jpeg_jpeg62ecafabb59c692d4ba471597fdf16bb This translation was prepared by John Hunwick and Fatima Harrak for The Institute of African Studies Rabat, Morocco Oh, I should add that we know that this manuscript was written by Ahmad Baba in the year 1615 because he himself penned his date as highlighted (in the attached verso) below: www.nairaland.com/attachments/13082305_6e49d8d129844a578af9272699e1586a_jpeg_jpeg2d5891d724a6428e2c0f4e6898bd60cc The highlight here literally shows the wording “(the year) one thousand and twenty four (of the Hijrah)”. When converted from this Hijri “AH” calendar into our Gregorian “AD” calendar; the year 1024 AH falls into the year 1615 AD The formula “D = 0.9692*H + 622” proves practically useful for this conversion. In sum, your falsehood that returned-slaves (from all across Africa) are what became known as Yorubas is nothing but a but-hurt lie from a depressed bald-head. (C) These ex-captives who were of West-African origin and Central African origin were repatriated directly to Sierra-Leone and Liberia. Some began a new life there, while some decided to go back to their homeland from which they were taken ab-initio. Nobody was repatriated to south-West Nigeria, bald-head. A number of Yorubas among the returnees chose to return back to Yorubaland — just as many others who returned to their respective original homeland. (2) The only ethnic-group whom I know of who couldn’t fight their way to freedom and be returned back to Africa are ……. [take a guess]. They couldn’t think of returning until about 400 years later when some of their descendants decided to tap into the science of Genetics as a guide to finding their way back home. ~ See video. below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxDve0rwQbM The two attachments below also shows some earlier corroborative confessions made available to Dr. R. E. Bradbury by these people themselves. www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996709_af6378be36104010b036a2f7ab4096cd_jpeg_jpeg07ca8a3f5b191f4126cdcd6bf2f7faf7 www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996710_b28de88ee10a4b7a83b95532f6609396_jpeg_jpegaca1a6203806c9d893c79b42b9a6c76e [s]Please kindly help me locate one of these 5 things:(1) “Occupying a key site on the route from the Bend to Ife, Oyo was probably one of the earliest-founded provincial capitals in the Ife empire.” ~ Robin Horton, “Ancient Ife,” (1979), p.115. (2) A ”bight” is a feature of a water body (Atlantic ocean in this case). Ife, in contrast, is deep in the Yoruba interior. It is in no way near the Atlantic coast. How could the 1400s Portuguese then have named a part of the Atlantic Ocean (the bight) after it? You see your life? See how you embarrassed yourself, family and friends.(3) Yoruba is not one kingdom. It is a land of free-borns, where each of its many kingdoms has got some sovereignty. As such, the bight could not have been named after a land as a whole. It was named after one of the two major polities near the coast — particularly the one which the Portuguese first had trade relations with. Of the two major kingdoms near the coast in the late 1400s when the Portuguese first arrived, only Benin kingdom was willing to sell its people. The bight was thus named after that kingdom whom they knew. *It wasn’t until in the 1520s before Benin embargoed the sale of its men (allowing only women) due to fear of depopulation of able-bodied men. (4) First of all, Britain didn’t have any fight with Benin. It was a punishment, not a fight. It is called a “punitive expedition” for a reason. A punishment in relation to which Ovoramwen recanted and trembled in court. Imaging “canning” a child as a punitive measure for mis-behaviors, and then the child suddenly turning around to say s(he) had a fight with you. No be juju be that? ![]() There was no reason to punish Ife, hence no such expedition happened there. Instead, they helped to end the ongoing wars within Yorubaland. (5) The country called Benin Republic did not take its name from Benin kingdom. Neither does it relate to Benin kingdom. The country’s former name was “Dahomey” — a name which doesn’t reflect the diverse ethnicities in the country. The name “Benin” (after the bight which the country sits on) was then settled for due to its neutrality. “In the late 19th century French colonizers making inroads from the coastal region into the interior borrowed the name of the defeated Dahomey kingdom for the entire territory that is now Benin; the current name derives from the Bight of Benin” ~ https://www.britannica.com/place/Benin In contrast, an entire group of people in today’s Togo, have insisted to be known by the name IFE. Yes, it is the “Ife” of present Nigeria they want to be associated with. Yoruba language is being spoken in Benin Republic. Tell me where (outside of Edo state) Bini language is beinig spoken. ![]() Peace! ![]() |
| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by Nobody: 5:37pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
Truth matters Truthbeatslies: |
| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by TAO11(f): 5:46pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
Debunked once, debunked forever. Truthbeatslies:I have debunked this false video many, many times. See one of my comments below: (1) Regarding your bitter lies about the trans-Atlantic slave trade, the following piece-by-piece devastating refutation: (A) Contrary to your ignorance, captives weren’t taken from “all across Africa” as you imagined. Rather, captives were taken from Central Africa and West Africa — including people from Benin kingdom whom the Nupe, the Ibadan, Ogedengbe, etc. raided. (B) Contrary to your ignorance, the Yoruba people have long been known by the name Yoruba (and they’ve been living in their present homeland) for centuries prior to the period when ex-captives began to be returned to Africa. We know this because the process of returning ex-captives back ‘home’ to West Africa didn’t begin until circa the late-1700s. Whereas, there are manuscripts written in the early-1600s which list Yorubas (by their name Yoruba) among some of the ethnic groups of our region of West Africa. This manuscript which was written by Ahmed Baba in 1615 is attached below. The name Yoruba is shown in red highlight (among the other ethnic groups) as can be seen in the original manuscript as well as in the translation embedded below respectively: www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934148_5117c6d550154217817d7c66b5fa0fe6_jpeg_jpeg2a73d5172c14cf7a7da91ff200688e3e www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934147_3336ed29985b499e82c4e140b455b9fa_jpeg_jpeg62ecafabb59c692d4ba471597fdf16bb This translation was prepared by John Hunwick and Fatima Harrak for The Institute of African Studies Rabat, Morocco Oh, I should add that we know that this manuscript was written by Ahmad Baba in the year 1615 because he himself penned his date as highlighted (in the attached verso) below: www.nairaland.com/attachments/13082305_6e49d8d129844a578af9272699e1586a_jpeg_jpeg2d5891d724a6428e2c0f4e6898bd60cc The highlight here literally shows the wording “(the year) one thousand and twenty four (of the Hijrah)”. When converted from this Hijri “AH” calendar into our Gregorian “AD” calendar; the year 1024 AH falls into the year 1615 AD The formula “D = 0.9692*H + 622” proves practically useful for this conversion. In sum, your falsehood that returned-slaves (from all across Africa) are what became known as Yorubas is nothing but a but-hurt lie from a depressed bald-head. (C) These ex-captives who were of West-African origin and Central African origin were repatriated directly to Sierra-Leone and Liberia. Some began a new life there, while some decided to go back to their homeland from which they were taken ab-initio. Nobody was repatriated to south-West Nigeria, bald-head. A number of Yorubas among the returnees chose to return back to Yorubaland — just as many others who returned to their respective original homeland. (2) The only ethnic-group whom I know of who couldn’t fight their way to freedom and be returned back to Africa are ……. [take a guess]. They couldn’t think of returning until about 400 years later when some of their descendants decided to tap into the science of Genetics as a guide to finding their way back home. ~ See video. below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxDve0rwQbM The two attachments below also shows some earlier corroborative confessions made available to Dr. R. E. Bradbury by these people themselves. www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996709_af6378be36104010b036a2f7ab4096cd_jpeg_jpeg07ca8a3f5b191f4126cdcd6bf2f7faf7 www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996710_b28de88ee10a4b7a83b95532f6609396_jpeg_jpegaca1a6203806c9d893c79b42b9a6c76e [s]Please kindly help me locate one of these 5 things:(1) “Occupying a key site on the route from the Bend to Ife, Oyo was probably one of the earliest-founded provincial capitals in the Ife empire.” ~ Robin Horton, “Ancient Ife,” (1979), p.115. (2) A ”bight” is a feature of a water body (Atlantic ocean in this case). Ife, in contrast, is deep in the Yoruba interior. It is in no way near the Atlantic coast. How could the 1400s Portuguese then have named a part of the Atlantic Ocean (the bight) after it? You see your life? See how you embarrassed yourself, family and friends.(3) Yoruba is not one kingdom. It is a land of free-borns, where each of its many kingdoms has got some sovereignty. As such, the bight could not have been named after a land as a whole. It was named after one of the two major polities near the coast — particularly the one which the Portuguese first had trade relations with. Of the two major kingdoms near the coast in the late 1400s when the Portuguese first arrived, only Benin kingdom was willing to sell its people. The bight was thus named after that kingdom whom they knew. *It wasn’t until in the 1520s before Benin embargoed the sale of its men (allowing only women) due to fear of depopulation of able-bodied men. (4) First of all, Britain didn’t have any fight with Benin. It was a punishment, not a fight. It is called a “punitive expedition” for a reason. A punishment in relation to which Ovoramwen recanted and trembled in court. Imaging “canning” a child as a punitive measure for mis-behaviors, and then the child suddenly turning around to say s(he) had a fight with you. No be juju be that? ![]() There was no reason to punish Ife, hence no such expedition happened there. Instead, they helped to end the ongoing wars within Yorubaland. (5) The country called Benin Republic did not take its name from Benin kingdom. Neither does it relate to Benin kingdom. The country’s former name was “Dahomey” — a name which doesn’t reflect the diverse ethnicities in the country. The name “Benin” (after the bight which the country sits on) was then settled for due to its neutrality. “In the late 19th century French colonizers making inroads from the coastal region into the interior borrowed the name of the defeated Dahomey kingdom for the entire territory that is now Benin; the current name derives from the Bight of Benin” ~ https://www.britannica.com/place/Benin In contrast, an entire group of people in today’s Togo, have insisted to be known by the name IFE. Yes, it is the “Ife” of present Nigeria they want to be associated with. Yoruba language is being spoken in Benin Republic. Tell me where (outside of Edo state) Bini language is beinig spoken. ![]() Peace! ![]() |
| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by Nobody: 5:47pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
Truthbeatslies: |
| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by TAO11(f): 5:48pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
Debunked once, debunked forever. ![]() Truthbeatslies:I have debunked this false video many, many times. See one of my comments below: (1) Regarding your bitter lies about the trans-Atlantic slave trade, the following piece-by-piece devastating refutation: (A) Contrary to your ignorance, captives weren’t taken from “all across Africa” as you imagined. Rather, captives were taken from Central Africa and West Africa — including people from Benin kingdom whom the Nupe, the Ibadan, Ogedengbe, etc. raided. (B) Contrary to your ignorance, the Yoruba people have long been known by the name Yoruba (and they’ve been living in their present homeland) for centuries prior to the period when ex-captives began to be returned to Africa. We know this because the process of returning ex-captives back ‘home’ to West Africa didn’t begin until circa the late-1700s. Whereas, there are manuscripts written in the early-1600s which list Yorubas (by their name Yoruba) among some of the ethnic groups of our region of West Africa. This manuscript which was written by Ahmed Baba in 1615 is attached below. The name Yoruba is shown in red highlight (among the other ethnic groups) as can be seen in the original manuscript as well as in the translation embedded below respectively: www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934148_5117c6d550154217817d7c66b5fa0fe6_jpeg_jpeg2a73d5172c14cf7a7da91ff200688e3e www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934147_3336ed29985b499e82c4e140b455b9fa_jpeg_jpeg62ecafabb59c692d4ba471597fdf16bb This translation was prepared by John Hunwick and Fatima Harrak for The Institute of African Studies Rabat, Morocco Oh, I should add that we know that this manuscript was written by Ahmad Baba in the year 1615 because he himself penned his date as highlighted (in the attached verso) below: www.nairaland.com/attachments/13082305_6e49d8d129844a578af9272699e1586a_jpeg_jpeg2d5891d724a6428e2c0f4e6898bd60cc The highlight here literally shows the wording “(the year) one thousand and twenty four (of the Hijrah)”. When converted from this Hijri “AH” calendar into our Gregorian “AD” calendar; the year 1024 AH falls into the year 1615 AD The formula “D = 0.9692*H + 622” proves practically useful for this conversion. In sum, your falsehood that returned-slaves (from all across Africa) are what became known as Yorubas is nothing but a but-hurt lie from a depressed bald-head. (C) These ex-captives who were of West-African origin and Central African origin were repatriated directly to Sierra-Leone and Liberia. Some began a new life there, while some decided to go back to their homeland from which they were taken ab-initio. Nobody was repatriated to south-West Nigeria, bald-head. A number of Yorubas among the returnees chose to return back to Yorubaland — just as many others who returned to their respective original homeland. (2) The only ethnic-group whom I know of who couldn’t fight their way to freedom and be returned back to Africa are ……. [take a guess]. They couldn’t think of returning until about 400 years later when some of their descendants decided to tap into the science of Genetics as a guide to finding their way back home. ~ See video. below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxDve0rwQbM The two attachments below also shows some earlier corroborative confessions made available to Dr. R. E. Bradbury by these people themselves. www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996709_af6378be36104010b036a2f7ab4096cd_jpeg_jpeg07ca8a3f5b191f4126cdcd6bf2f7faf7 www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996710_b28de88ee10a4b7a83b95532f6609396_jpeg_jpegaca1a6203806c9d893c79b42b9a6c76e [s]Please kindly help me locate one of these 5 things:(1) “Occupying a key site on the route from the Bend to Ife, Oyo was probably one of the earliest-founded provincial capitals in the Ife empire.” ~ Robin Horton, “Ancient Ife,” (1979), p.115. (2) A ”bight” is a feature of a water body (Atlantic ocean in this case). Ife, in contrast, is deep in the Yoruba interior. It is in no way near the Atlantic coast. How could the 1400s Portuguese then have named a part of the Atlantic Ocean (the bight) after it? You see your life? See how you embarrassed yourself, family and friends.(3) Yoruba is not one kingdom. It is a land of free-borns, where each of its many kingdoms has got some sovereignty. As such, the bight could not have been named after a land as a whole. It was named after one of the two major polities near the coast — particularly the one which the Portuguese first had trade relations with. Of the two major kingdoms near the coast in the late 1400s when the Portuguese first arrived, only Benin kingdom was willing to sell its people. The bight was thus named after that kingdom whom they knew. *It wasn’t until in the 1520s before Benin embargoed the sale of its men (allowing only women) due to fear of depopulation of able-bodied men. (4) First of all, Britain didn’t have any fight with Benin. It was a punishment, not a fight. It is called a “punitive expedition” for a reason. A punishment in relation to which Ovoramwen recanted and trembled in court. Imaging “canning” a child as a punitive measure for mis-behaviors, and then the child suddenly turning around to say s(he) had a fight with you. No be juju be that? ![]() There was no reason to punish Ife, hence no such expedition happened there. Instead, they helped to end the ongoing wars within Yorubaland. (5) The country called Benin Republic did not take its name from Benin kingdom. Neither does it relate to Benin kingdom. The country’s former name was “Dahomey” — a name which doesn’t reflect the diverse ethnicities in the country. The name “Benin” (after the bight which the country sits on) was then settled for due to its neutrality. “In the late 19th century French colonizers making inroads from the coastal region into the interior borrowed the name of the defeated Dahomey kingdom for the entire territory that is now Benin; the current name derives from the Bight of Benin” ~ https://www.britannica.com/place/Benin In contrast, an entire group of people in today’s Togo, have insisted to be known by the name IFE. Yes, it is the “Ife” of present Nigeria they want to be associated with. Yoruba language is being spoken in Benin Republic. Tell me where (outside of Edo state) Bini language is beinig spoken. ![]() Peace! ![]() |
| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by nisai: 5:51pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
TAO11: Alaafin Orompoto niyun oooooooo! |
| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by Christistruth00: 6:09pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
TAO11:http://ogedengbe.com/17503.html Ogedengbe spoke harshly. He said: "It is just as I thought it would be. The city of Benin whimpers like a child. Hear my drums, for they speak only what is true. The drums say, 'Now it is Benin's turn.' Return to the city and tell your Oba what I have said." The messenger returned to Benin. He reported Ogedengbe’s words. Once again the people of Benin sent a messenger to plead with Ogedengbe not to make war on the city. Again Ogedengbe rebuffed the messenger. His army arrived at Benin, surrounded the city and dug a moat around it to prevent the inhabitants from escaping. Benin was besieged. The Oba of Benin, the subchiefs and the councillors discussed their situation. They foresaw that the city would be destroyed and their army defeated. While some said: "Let us go out and fight," others said, "No. Listen to Ogedengbe's drums. They recall his great victories over other cities. They speak only what is true." |
| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by gregyboy(op): 6:09pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
TAO11:I guess you mentioned me in the morning which i happened not to see, pls resend the mention let's begin i love flogging you it makes me popular |
| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by Nobody: 6:17pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
gregyboy:The biggest nightmare of the transgender tao (tao is macof's baby). I guess trangender tao will soon have this thread deleted as well, after you have exposed her/him enough. Ok trangender, come here, gregyboy is generous enough to give you some more education here, for free. The true history of the yoruba: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llporKrPsbU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2hU-ibkPfg Please kindly help me locate one of these 5 things: 1) ife empire 2) bight of ife 3) bight of yoruba 4) ife battle against britain 5) ife republic[/quote] |
| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by TAO11(f): 7:05pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
DEBUNKED! Truthbeatslies:I have debunked this false video many, many times. See one of my comments below: (1) Regarding your bitter lies about the trans-Atlantic slave trade, the following piece-by-piece devastating refutation: (A) Contrary to your ignorance, captives weren’t taken from “all across Africa” as you imagined. Rather, captives were taken from Central Africa and West Africa — including people from Benin kingdom whom the Nupe, the Ibadan, Ogedengbe, etc. raided. (B) Contrary to your ignorance, the Yoruba people have long been known by the name Yoruba (and they’ve been living in their present homeland) for centuries prior to the period when ex-captives began to be returned to Africa. We know this because the process of returning ex-captives back ‘home’ to West Africa didn’t begin until circa the late-1700s. Whereas, there are manuscripts written in the early-1600s which list Yorubas (by their name Yoruba) among some of the ethnic groups of our region of West Africa. This manuscript which was written by Ahmed Baba in 1615 is attached below. The name Yoruba is shown in red highlight (among the other ethnic groups) as can be seen in the original manuscript as well as in the translation embedded below respectively: www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934148_5117c6d550154217817d7c66b5fa0fe6_jpeg_jpeg2a73d5172c14cf7a7da91ff200688e3e www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934147_3336ed29985b499e82c4e140b455b9fa_jpeg_jpeg62ecafabb59c692d4ba471597fdf16bb This translation was prepared by John Hunwick and Fatima Harrak for The Institute of African Studies Rabat, Morocco Oh, I should add that we know that this manuscript was written by Ahmad Baba in the year 1615 because he himself penned his date as highlighted (in the attached verso) below: www.nairaland.com/attachments/13082305_6e49d8d129844a578af9272699e1586a_jpeg_jpeg2d5891d724a6428e2c0f4e6898bd60cc The highlight here literally shows the wording “(the year) one thousand and twenty four (of the Hijrah)”. When converted from this Hijri “AH” calendar into our Gregorian “AD” calendar; the year 1024 AH falls into the year 1615 AD The formula “D = 0.9692*H + 622” proves practically useful for this conversion. In sum, your falsehood that returned-slaves (from all across Africa) are what became known as Yorubas is nothing but a but-hurt lie from a depressed bald-head. (C) These ex-captives who were of West-African origin and Central African origin were repatriated directly to Sierra-Leone and Liberia. Some began a new life there, while some decided to go back to their homeland from which they were taken ab-initio. Nobody was repatriated to south-West Nigeria, bald-head. A number of Yorubas among the returnees chose to return back to Yorubaland — just as many others who returned to their respective original homeland. (2) The only ethnic-group whom I know of who couldn’t fight their way to freedom and be returned back to Africa are ……. [take a guess]. They couldn’t think of returning until about 400 years later when some of their descendants decided to tap into the science of Genetics as a guide to finding their way back home. ~ See video. below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxDve0rwQbM The two attachments below also shows some earlier corroborative confessions made available to Dr. R. E. Bradbury by these people themselves. www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996709_af6378be36104010b036a2f7ab4096cd_jpeg_jpeg07ca8a3f5b191f4126cdcd6bf2f7faf7 www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996710_b28de88ee10a4b7a83b95532f6609396_jpeg_jpegaca1a6203806c9d893c79b42b9a6c76e [s]Please kindly help me locate one of these 5 things:(1) “Occupying a key site on the route from the Bend to Ife, Oyo was probably one of the earliest-founded provincial capitals in the Ife empire.” ~ Robin Horton, “Ancient Ife,” (1979), p.115. (2) A ”bight” is a feature of a water body (Atlantic ocean in this case). Ife, in contrast, is deep in the Yoruba interior. It is in no way near the Atlantic coast. How could the 1400s Portuguese then have named a part of the Atlantic Ocean (the bight) after it? You see your life? See how you embarrassed yourself, family and friends.(3) Yoruba is not one kingdom. It is a land of free-borns, where each of its many kingdoms has got some sovereignty. As such, the bight could not have been named after a land as a whole. It was named after one of the two major polities near the coast — particularly the one which the Portuguese first had trade relations with. Of the two major kingdoms near the coast in the late 1400s when the Portuguese first arrived, only Benin kingdom was willing to sell its people. The bight was thus named after that kingdom whom they knew. *It wasn’t until in the 1520s before Benin embargoed the sale of its men (allowing only women) due to fear of depopulation of able-bodied men. (4) First of all, Britain didn’t have any fight with Benin. It was a punishment, not a fight. It is called a “punitive expedition” for a reason. A punishment in relation to which Ovoramwen recanted and trembled in court. Imaging “canning” a child as a punitive measure for mis-behaviors, and then the child suddenly turning around to say s(he) had a fight with you. No be juju be that? ![]() There was no reason to punish Ife, hence no such expedition happened there. Instead, they helped to end the ongoing wars within Yorubaland. (5) The country called Benin Republic did not take its name from Benin kingdom. Neither does it relate to Benin kingdom. The country’s former name was “Dahomey” — a name which doesn’t reflect the diverse ethnicities in the country. The name “Benin” (after the bight which the country sits on) was then settled for due to its neutrality. “In the late 19th century French colonizers making inroads from the coastal region into the interior borrowed the name of the defeated Dahomey kingdom for the entire territory that is now Benin; the current name derives from the Bight of Benin” ~ https://www.britannica.com/place/Benin In contrast, an entire group of people in today’s Togo, have insisted to be known by the name IFE. Yes, it is the “Ife” of present Nigeria they want to be associated with. Yoruba language is being spoken in Benin Republic. Tell me where (outside of Edo state) Bini language is beinig spoken. ![]() Peace! ![]() |
| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by macof(m): 7:13pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
Truthbeatslies:You are just a broken defeated miscreant ![]() I have effortlessly shamed you here twice today and TAO11 has done same and your inability to successfully save face has shamed your ancestors and Ethnic people on this forum yet again. Humiliation is the normal uniform you Bini miscreants wear on this forum mostly thanks to you |
| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by Nobody: 7:15pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
macof:show me where. The difference between your perspective and mine is that I am interested in history while you are interested in shaming. Also you have an unrealistic view of yourself and your actions. This is not an ego trip to me, rather it is about establishing the truth. In other words you are a child. |
| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by Nobody: 7:24pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
I would much rather have an intelligent discussion rather than what you and your little friend are doing. And that is what the case used to be. But you guys hate the truth so much that you had to turn everything into a battlefield and your first victim was logics ofcourse. You believe I say the truth to humiliate you, but I only say it because I believe history is important. If I were to be the one with slave ancestry like the yoruba, I would acknowledge it and honour my ancestors. You can't understand me because you are ego driven and emotions driven rather than logics driven. |
| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by TAO11(f): 7:32pm On Aug 07, 2021 |
Debunked once, debunked forever. You and your fake videos have been debunked. I know it hurts, but it is what it is. Truthbeatslies:I have debunked this false video many, many times. See one of my comments below: (1) Regarding your bitter lies about the trans-Atlantic slave trade, the following piece-by-piece devastating refutation: (A) Contrary to your ignorance, captives weren’t taken from “all across Africa” as you imagined. Rather, captives were taken from Central Africa and West Africa — including people from Benin kingdom whom the Nupe, the Ibadan, Ogedengbe, etc. raided. (B) Contrary to your ignorance, the Yoruba people have long been known by the name Yoruba (and they’ve been living in their present homeland) for centuries prior to the period when ex-captives began to be returned to Africa. We know this because the process of returning ex-captives back ‘home’ to West Africa didn’t begin until circa the late-1700s. Whereas, there are manuscripts written in the early-1600s which list Yorubas (by their name Yoruba) among some of the ethnic groups of our region of West Africa. This manuscript which was written by Ahmed Baba in 1615 is attached below. The name Yoruba is shown in red highlight (among the other ethnic groups) as can be seen in the original manuscript as well as in the translation embedded below respectively: www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934148_5117c6d550154217817d7c66b5fa0fe6_jpeg_jpeg2a73d5172c14cf7a7da91ff200688e3e www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934147_3336ed29985b499e82c4e140b455b9fa_jpeg_jpeg62ecafabb59c692d4ba471597fdf16bb This translation was prepared by John Hunwick and Fatima Harrak for The Institute of African Studies Rabat, Morocco Oh, I should add that we know that this manuscript was written by Ahmad Baba in the year 1615 because he himself penned his date as highlighted (in the attached verso) below: www.nairaland.com/attachments/13082305_6e49d8d129844a578af9272699e1586a_jpeg_jpeg2d5891d724a6428e2c0f4e6898bd60cc The highlight here literally shows the wording “(the year) one thousand and twenty four (of the Hijrah)”. When converted from this Hijri “AH” calendar into our Gregorian “AD” calendar; the year 1024 AH falls into the year 1615 AD The formula “D = 0.9692*H + 622” proves practically useful for this conversion. In sum, your falsehood that returned-slaves (from all across Africa) are what became known as Yorubas is nothing but a but-hurt lie from a depressed bald-head. (C) These ex-captives who were of West-African origin and Central African origin were repatriated directly to Sierra-Leone and Liberia. Some began a new life there, while some decided to go back to their homeland from which they were taken ab-initio. Nobody was repatriated to south-West Nigeria, bald-head. A number of Yorubas among the returnees chose to return back to Yorubaland — just as many others who returned to their respective original homeland. (2) The only ethnic-group whom I know of who couldn’t fight their way to freedom and be returned back to Africa are ……. [take a guess]. They couldn’t think of returning until about 400 years later when some of their descendants decided to tap into the science of Genetics as a guide to finding their way back home. ~ See video. below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxDve0rwQbM The two attachments below also shows some earlier corroborative confessions made available to Dr. R. E. Bradbury by these people themselves. www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996709_af6378be36104010b036a2f7ab4096cd_jpeg_jpeg07ca8a3f5b191f4126cdcd6bf2f7faf7 www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996710_b28de88ee10a4b7a83b95532f6609396_jpeg_jpegaca1a6203806c9d893c79b42b9a6c76e [s]Please kindly help me locate one of these 5 things:(1) “Occupying a key site on the route from the Bend to Ife, Oyo was probably one of the earliest-founded provincial capitals in the Ife empire.” ~ Robin Horton, “Ancient Ife,” (1979), p.115. (2) A ”bight” is a feature of a water body (Atlantic ocean in this case). Ife, in contrast, is deep in the Yoruba interior. It is in no way near the Atlantic coast. How could the 1400s Portuguese then have named a part of the Atlantic Ocean (the bight) after it? You see your life? See how you embarrassed yourself, family and friends.(3) Yoruba is not one kingdom. It is a land of free-borns, where each of its many kingdoms has got some sovereignty. As such, the bight could not have been named after a land as a whole. It was named after one of the two major polities near the coast — particularly the one which the Portuguese first had trade relations with. Of the two major kingdoms near the coast in the late 1400s when the Portuguese first arrived, only Benin kingdom was willing to sell its people. The bight was thus named after that kingdom whom they knew. *It wasn’t until in the 1520s before Benin embargoed the sale of its men (allowing only women) due to fear of depopulation of able-bodied men. (4) First of all, Britain didn’t have any fight with Benin. It was a punishment, not a fight. It is called a “punitive expedition” for a reason. A punishment in relation to which Ovoramwen recanted and trembled in court. Imaging “canning” a child as a punitive measure for mis-behaviors, and then the child suddenly turning around to say s(he) had a fight with you. No be juju be that? ![]() There was no reason to punish Ife, hence no such expedition happened there. Instead, they helped to end the ongoing wars within Yorubaland. (5) The country called Benin Republic did not take its name from Benin kingdom. Neither does it relate to Benin kingdom. The country’s former name was “Dahomey” — a name which doesn’t reflect the diverse ethnicities in the country. The name “Benin” (after the bight which the country sits on) was then settled for due to its neutrality. “In the late 19th century French colonizers making inroads from the coastal region into the interior borrowed the name of the defeated Dahomey kingdom for the entire territory that is now Benin; the current name derives from the Bight of Benin” ~ https://www.britannica.com/place/Benin In contrast, an entire group of people in today’s Togo, have insisted to be known by the name IFE. Yes, it is the “Ife” of present Nigeria they want to be associated with. Yoruba language is being spoken in Benin Republic. Tell me where (outside of Edo state) Bini language is beinig spoken. ![]() Peace! ![]() |
| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by macof(m): 3:04pm On Aug 08, 2021 |
Truthbeatslies:Apparently you can't read or you read and can't digest Here is your effortless humiliation by Tao TAO11:You see that part about Bini language not spoken anywhere outside a few local government areas in Edo state, it will continue to bite you miscreants until you learn to stick to your place as the minorities that you are.You don't even have a perspective, I can't dignify your nonsense as a perspective. It's not based on any sense and lacks consistency. Today Europeans are the authorities of African Pre-colonial history when it favors Bini, Tomorrow Europeans don't know what you are saying when it doesn't favor Bini What can anyone learn from you? You keep mentioning you schooled in France - which considering how you expect it to mean something relevant, where it is not, it is most likely a lie, I put it that you are one of those Bini youths that have suffered in Nigeria and followed the Mediterranean to Europe and thinking he has arrived whereas you are still struggling for asylum or looking for a white to marry. You are not interested in history, you have not read a single history book in your life. You are only here on nairaland to express anti-Yoruba and sometimes anti-igbo sentiments created from your gross inferiority complex as a Bini youth, with no knowledge of history Your assignment is still here: macof: |
| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by Stoplying: 3:58pm On Aug 08, 2021 |
@macof, sorry I don't read the comments of your troll infant. 1) If you knew anything about history then you would know that what matters for the study of history is not "history books" but historical documents. I know your education didn't go far enough to understand this concept. "History" books about african history are often done by unprofessional bigots (or under their influences) and are filled with lies and fairytales and all sorts of fiction. That is why studying African history as an educated adult requires doing the work of a historian: seeking historical documents and going through them. 2) I am not interested in "anti-yoruba", I only seek to make hearing and seeing the truth an option to readers on nairaland. It is not my fault that yoruba tend to hate hearing the truth about themselves. 3) I couldn't even care less about yoruba except for the fact yoruba keep claiming my people and my heritage. So I shed a light on the history of Benin empire and put a nail kn the coffin of the fairytales of oduduwa and ogiso and oranmiyan. 4) Not contempt with my telling the truth about the history of my people which was documented by eyewitnesses, you and your yoruba followers including your transgender troll attacked me and harassed me and kept coming with more lies. 5) That is why I had to also study yoruba true history and expose it right here. |
| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by TAO11(f): 4:22pm On Aug 08, 2021 |
Debunked once, debunked forever. You and your fake videos have been debunked. I know it hurts, but it is what it is. Stoplying:I have debunked this false video many, many times. See one of my comments below: (1) Regarding your bitter lies about the trans-Atlantic slave trade, the following piece-by-piece devastating refutation: (A) Contrary to your ignorance, captives weren’t taken from “all across Africa” as you imagined. Rather, captives were taken from Central Africa and West Africa — including people from Benin kingdom whom the Nupe, the Ibadan, Ogedengbe, etc. raided. (B) Contrary to your ignorance, the Yoruba people have long been known by the name Yoruba (and they’ve been living in their present homeland) for centuries prior to the period when ex-captives began to be returned to Africa. We know this because the process of returning ex-captives back ‘home’ to West Africa didn’t begin until circa the late-1700s. Whereas, there are manuscripts written in the early-1600s which list Yorubas (by their name Yoruba) among some of the ethnic groups of our region of West Africa. This manuscript which was written by Ahmed Baba in 1615 is attached below. The name Yoruba is shown in red highlight (among the other ethnic groups) as can be seen in the original manuscript as well as in the translation embedded below respectively: www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934148_5117c6d550154217817d7c66b5fa0fe6_jpeg_jpeg2a73d5172c14cf7a7da91ff200688e3e www.nairaland.com/attachments/12934147_3336ed29985b499e82c4e140b455b9fa_jpeg_jpeg62ecafabb59c692d4ba471597fdf16bb This translation was prepared by John Hunwick and Fatima Harrak for The Institute of African Studies Rabat, Morocco Oh, I should add that we know that this manuscript was written by Ahmad Baba in the year 1615 because he himself penned his date as highlighted (in the attached verso) below: www.nairaland.com/attachments/13082305_6e49d8d129844a578af9272699e1586a_jpeg_jpeg2d5891d724a6428e2c0f4e6898bd60cc The highlight here literally shows the wording “(the year) one thousand and twenty four (of the Hijrah)”. When converted from this Hijri “AH” calendar into our Gregorian “AD” calendar; the year 1024 AH falls into the year 1615 AD The formula “D = 0.9692*H + 622” proves practically useful for this conversion. In sum, your falsehood that returned-slaves (from all across Africa) are what became known as Yorubas is nothing but a but-hurt lie from a depressed bald-head. (C) These ex-captives who were of West-African origin and Central African origin were repatriated directly to Sierra-Leone and Liberia. Some began a new life there, while some decided to go back to their homeland from which they were taken ab-initio. Nobody was repatriated to south-West Nigeria, bald-head. A number of Yorubas among the returnees chose to return back to Yorubaland — just as many others who returned to their respective original homeland. (2) The only ethnic-group whom I know of who couldn’t fight their way to freedom and be returned back to Africa are ……. [take a guess]. They couldn’t think of returning until about 400 years later when some of their descendants decided to tap into the science of Genetics as a guide to finding their way back home. ~ See video. below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxDve0rwQbM The two attachments below also shows some earlier corroborative confessions made available to Dr. R. E. Bradbury by these people themselves. www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996709_af6378be36104010b036a2f7ab4096cd_jpeg_jpeg07ca8a3f5b191f4126cdcd6bf2f7faf7 www.nairaland.com/attachments/12996710_b28de88ee10a4b7a83b95532f6609396_jpeg_jpegaca1a6203806c9d893c79b42b9a6c76e [s]Please kindly help me locate one of these 5 things:(1) “Occupying a key site on the route from the Bend to Ife, Oyo was probably one of the earliest-founded provincial capitals in the Ife empire.” ~ Robin Horton, “Ancient Ife,” (1979), p.115. (2) A ”bight” is a feature of a water body (Atlantic ocean in this case). Ife, in contrast, is deep in the Yoruba interior. It is in no way near the Atlantic coast. How could the 1400s Portuguese then have named a part of the Atlantic Ocean (the bight) after it? You see your life? See how you embarrassed yourself, family and friends.(3) Yoruba is not one kingdom. It is a land of free-borns, where each of its many kingdoms has got some sovereignty. As such, the bight could not have been named after a land as a whole. It was named after one of the two major polities near the coast — particularly the one which the Portuguese first had trade relations with. Of the two major kingdoms near the coast in the late 1400s when the Portuguese first arrived, only Benin kingdom was willing to sell its people. The bight was thus named after that kingdom whom they knew. *It wasn’t until in the 1520s before Benin embargoed the sale of its men (allowing only women) due to fear of depopulation of able-bodied men. (4) First of all, Britain didn’t have any fight with Benin. It was a punishment, not a fight. It is called a “punitive expedition” for a reason. A punishment in relation to which Ovoramwen recanted and trembled in court. Imaging “canning” a child as a punitive measure for mis-behaviors, and then the child suddenly turning around to say s(he) had a fight with you. No be juju be that? ![]() There was no reason to punish Ife, hence no such expedition happened there. Instead, they helped to end the ongoing wars within Yorubaland. (5) The country called Benin Republic did not take its name from Benin kingdom. Neither does it relate to Benin kingdom. The country’s former name was “Dahomey” — a name which doesn’t reflect the diverse ethnicities in the country. The name “Benin” (after the bight which the country sits on) was then settled for due to its neutrality. “In the late 19th century French colonizers making inroads from the coastal region into the interior borrowed the name of the defeated Dahomey kingdom for the entire territory that is now Benin; the current name derives from the Bight of Benin” ~ https://www.britannica.com/place/Benin In contrast, an entire group of people in today’s Togo, have insisted to be known by the name IFE. Yes, it is the “Ife” of present Nigeria they want to be associated with. Yoruba language is being spoken in Benin Republic. Tell me where (outside of Edo state) Bini language is beinig spoken. ![]() Peace! ![]() |
| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by Stoplying: 5:43pm On Aug 08, 2021 |
Just chilling, walking towards the Eiffel tower.
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| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by TAO11(f): 6:49pm On Aug 08, 2021 |
Stoplying:Wow! ![]() Cc: macof
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| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by nisai: 7:11pm On Aug 08, 2021 |
| Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by Stoplying: 7:22pm On Aug 08, 2021 |
When Egypt comes to Paris.
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