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Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by RiceProducers: 9:24pm On Aug 14, 2021 |
Agboriotejoye: Buhari truncated Ajaokuta? What school did you go sir?. As for planned infrastructure projects that were not done when oil price was $100 per barrel and financial flows out Of Nigeria rivaled FDI into Europe, only God will save Nigerians from moral cowardice and mortal fear of truth but the country is not going anywhere with cowards 1 Like |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by NGpatriot: 9:28pm On Aug 14, 2021 |
Agboriotejoye: So, we should let the 30 old abandoned rail project continue to rot, decay and be abandoned simply because other components are not up and running when they are finally up and running, the already completed and functioning railway system woun't be needed or that's when we should start running arund trying to fugure out how to complete the abandoned project? Where is the sense in your conclusion That rail line serves 3 states from Dekrta to Edo and Kogi and it remains the cheapest, safest and fasted route to the FCT. As they say, ipob mentality is a backward and upside-down mentality.. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by shadeyinka(m): 9:34pm On Aug 14, 2021 |
Ovamboland:I do not have the capacity of building foundries 1/10th as big as Ajaokuta Steel. But, Nigeria has several hundred more qualified people who can be HARNESSED by those in government. If I could succeed in my small capacity, surely the Government can succeed in the big project. It's not about me, its about those wasting the enormous human capacities existing in this country through myopic reasoning and poor leadership. Like I said, I have build several at my level for my own purpose (interestingly for hobby purposes). I have developed my one refractory materials that are even at par with imported ones. At my level, I have succeeded where a big country like Nigeria has failed. The same thing with Nigeria banning the "so-called illegal refineries" while they cant refine one litter of crude oil. Is that not a big shame? Ovamboland:Because I cant produce the volume required to make them competitively cheap. But my dear country has the resources to make sure that Nigeria and Nigerians produce pencils, pens, papers etc at ridiculously cheap prices But poor leadership wouldn't allow that: admit it bro, we have poor leadership in Nigeria. |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by CoolAmbience(m): 9:48pm On Aug 14, 2021 |
lexy2014: 'Living standards since 2015'.... Fold your arms and wait for Buhari to come and feed you. The era of arm folding and money sharing are over. Buhari has done well. You may continue to deny it all you want, but the evidences are there for everyone to see. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by Ovamboland(m): 11:24pm On Aug 14, 2021 |
Agboriotejoye: And these are from the loans spent on infrastructure? |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by Ovamboland(m): 11:43pm On Aug 14, 2021 |
aribisala0: Story story, non oil revenue is steadily increasing with 56% growth in VAT returns and, 45% increase in CIT. Infrastructure solutions to port congestion you so much hate will increase returns from excise duty and other tax reforms will increase revenue. We won't need to wait for 10 years to start building infrastructure as you hope, it's already happening and some in use already whether you like it or not. The same subsidy you just complained is not the best and making us take more loans than necessary is the same one you claim if we agree to IMF condition we will lose sovereignty. Like all of us in debating ending or keeping subsidy are stupid and going either way will make us at the mercy of IMF. |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by Ovamboland(m): 11:50pm On Aug 14, 2021 |
aribisala0: Do nothing you are accustomed to is full, enlightened and awesome |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by aribisala0(m): 4:03am On Aug 15, 2021 |
Ovamboland:Would it not be nice if you put in the same effort into educating yourself properly. |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by aribisala0(m): 4:05am On Aug 15, 2021 |
Ovamboland: So many empty and meaningless words. All of it profound in your eyes. |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by aribisala0(m): 4:16am On Aug 15, 2021 |
Ovamboland:Loans are used to fund the budget full stop When you eat rice and stew the body does not separate the rice for the legs and the stew for the hands If you borrow 50% of your budget everything in the budget is 50% funded by loans 1 Like |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by Agboriotejoye(m): 7:21am On Aug 15, 2021 |
Ovamboland:No. They are from tithes and offerings |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by Ovamboland(m): 7:23am On Aug 15, 2021 |
aribisala0: You are just a comedian, how did you educate yourself to arrive at the wacky conclusion that infrastructure is not important or useful? |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by Agboriotejoye(m): 7:24am On Aug 15, 2021 |
NGpatriot:Show with facts that it's the "cheapest, safest and fastest route to the FCT". Show the utilisation also. You just wrote a truckload of rubbish laced with ignorance. |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by Ovamboland(m): 7:24am On Aug 15, 2021 |
aribisala0: Indicate the loans taken for the purpose of cutting grass |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by aribisala0(m): 7:26am On Aug 15, 2021 |
Ovamboland: You set your own exam , write it and award yourself an A+ Is that not lunacy If you are unable to provide any shred of evidence that I said that infrastructure is not useful then please shut up and stop seeking attention Go and get a useful job |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by Agboriotejoye(m): 7:26am On Aug 15, 2021 |
RiceProducers:I guess he was not one of those led and benefited immensely from this country in the 1980s and 1990s. As I've told you brother-in-arms, there's nothing on ground that's superb or other administration have not done infrastructure wise. |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by aribisala0(m): 7:27am On Aug 15, 2021 |
Ovamboland:Remind us how much was spent on cutting grass? Did I introduce grass cutting? |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by aribisala0(m): 7:28am On Aug 15, 2021 |
Ovamboland:Indicate the loan spent on infrastructure |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by Agboriotejoye(m): 7:28am On Aug 15, 2021 |
Ovamboland:Stop deceiving yourself. Nigerian rails are one of the most expensive in Africa. What projects have the govt done. 90% of the project your other moniker listed are ongoing. Let's see them completed before you start claiming they are done. |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by Agboriotejoye(m): 7:33am On Aug 15, 2021 |
Ovamboland:Ajaokuta has become a sign of expensive waste of money. There are experts who believe with the poor quality of iron ore that we have, the project should never have even been started. But that's not the point. The point is like I've been drumming into your ears, the rail was abandoned because it was meant to service the steel complex which was not yet ready as at then and even the iron mines too. Claiming it was abandoned as if it could ever work just to score cheap political points is propaganda the type APC is known for. As an example, can you show us the utilisation of the rail now? |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by awumen: 7:36am On Aug 15, 2021 |
Agboriotejoye:@NGpatriot, while I won't agree or dispute your info yet, I will like to see a chart showing utilisation on this route to FCT. I believe it will not only support your argument but it might also change some mindset. I still support infrastructural development anyday 1 Like |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by aribisala0(m): 7:39am On Aug 15, 2021 |
Agboriotejoye:This is where knowledge and Human capital come into it Nigeria is energy rich and so even if we have no ore whatsoever to industrialize we need to develop the capacity to manipulate metal. China accounts for 75% of Iron ore imports in the world and nearly 60% of steel production |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by effort1: 7:44am On Aug 15, 2021 |
Ovamboland: At least you agree that this government is only focused on competing for failure. You also agree that all its electoral promises are intentional deceptions. Congratulations. You have just signed off the future of your children |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by Agboriotejoye(m): 7:44am On Aug 15, 2021 |
awumen:No one does not support infrastructure. But if you know APC well, this latest tactics of shouting infrastructure is an attempt to paper over the cracks of the adminstration and it's glaring failures in more critical aspects of the national Life. Femi is trying to paint that infrastructure is the most important duty of govt and even claimed IBB institutionalised corruption forgetting that IBB performed far better than Buhari will ever do in his 10 years in office. If IBB who did so well in infrastructure institutionalised corruption, then it means infrastructure development can be a conduit to corruption too. You can't have it both ways. |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by aribisala0(m): 8:01am On Aug 15, 2021 |
Strategic infrastructure projects that endure to this day were done without bankrupting the country Kainji Dam Egbin Thermal Plant( The largest plant by output PH Enugu Expressway Lagos Benin Express way Lagos Ibadan Expressway Abuja Construction Onne Port etc No one borrowed a penny for any of these projects So our point is we should not cripple other aspects of governance and elevate infrastructure to a religion If you rescue a starving man you feed him gradually . You don't force him to swallow a goat in one day Education Health Security are crucial Even in infrastructure we must prioritize and our priority MUST be power |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by awumen: 8:54am On Aug 15, 2021 |
Agboriotejoye:I understand we both support infrastructural growth however I agree with you that infrastructural development can also be a conduit to corruption as we have seen in alot of cases especially in Africa and the world in general. I understand the APC government and I am not a fan of any political party. This government especially has sent us 10-15 years back in more than 70% of their actions and policies My question to Ngpatriot, show us a chart that will further buttress your point that the rail utilisation as a means of transportation has increased for our people. |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by lexy2014: 10:36am On Aug 15, 2021 |
CoolAmbience: According to u: "There has been no single President better than Buhari since independence". Based on ur claim above, can u answer d following questions and address d following issues?: Is this what u call a comparative analysis based on ur conclusion that "There has been no single President better than Buhari since independence"? I don't see any indices in what u wrote. In ur number 3 point for instance, what are d figures? What's d reality on ground? What's d living standard of Nigerians since 2015 compared to before 2015? How has d economy been diversified? What has it been diversified to? how much revenue came in since 2015, how was it utilised that made u say "prudent management of economy"? You have to take every aspect of governance since 1960 (taking into cognisance section 14 (2b) of d constitution), compare every administration since 1960 and mirror against d buhari administration using every single aspect of governance as indices. |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by CoolAmbience(m): 11:08am On Aug 15, 2021 |
lexy2014: Oga copy and paste! Disprove it na. |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by lexy2014: 11:24am On Aug 15, 2021 |
CoolAmbience: I haven't made any claims. U are d one making d claims. Are u telling me that u can't provide any info to support ur claim that "There has been no single President better than Buhari since independence". Based on ur claim above, can u answer d following questions and address d following issues?: Is this what u call a comparative analysis based on ur conclusion that "There has been no single President better than Buhari since independence"? I don't see any indices in what u wrote. In ur number 3 point for instance, what are d figures? What's d reality on ground? What's d living standard of Nigerians since 2015 compared to before 2015? How has d economy been diversified? What has it been diversified to? how much revenue came in since 2015, how was it utilised that made u say "prudent management of economy"? You have to take every aspect of governance since 1960 (taking into cognisance section 14 (2b) of d constitution), compare every administration since 1960 and mirror against d buhari administration using every single aspect of governance as indices. |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by EnkayDezign: 11:47am On Aug 15, 2021 |
Ovamboland: Yes boss, and here we are trying to explain to our fellow arrogantly ignorant 'countrymen' the importance of investing in infrastructure even if through loans. They simply amaze me 1 Like |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by Agboriotejoye(m): 1:42pm On Aug 15, 2021 |
Ovamboland:Well, you thought wrong. Lagos to Ibadan is 1k by road and 2k5 by rail. Same with Abj-Kd. So as we have it now, road is far cheaper than rail. Besides, why don't you look at your map and see which is closer between Lagos to Maradi and Cotonou to Niamey. You sound myopic. That $25m is the premium. There's interest on it that will be paid and it's obviously a gamble as you have come to agree with. We all complain about waste in govt but you suddenly see nothing wrong in a $25m gamble to Niger. Your cost-benefit analysis is zero. You're comparing losses and misspends instead of listing what we stand to gain from the $25m. That's really absurd if you ask me. |
Re: If Not Infrastructure, Then What - Femi Adesina by Ovamboland(m): 4:55pm On Aug 15, 2021 |
Agboriotejoye: Kai the railway construction is making you really mad, you seriously hope it will fail. With citizens like you a nation needs no enemies, you're playing that role effectively already. Let me see if I can drop a little education for you hoping you can still soak up knowledge and make meaning out of it. Using multi-modal rail and truck transit compared to truck alone, you can cut transportation costs by more than half.20 Apr 2020 Just don't end your life in so much ignorance and bitterness �
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