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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by themindpen(m): 3:04pm On Aug 17, 2021
Hi everyone,

I would like to ask, is Corolla 2003 LE acceptable by Uber/Bolt/Indriver?

And is it a good choice as well?
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Pearl1910: 3:10pm On Aug 17, 2021
IFEBARBIE:
Got the mail too, I also use them for destination trips only or when I'm in a location for too long and I need to get out. They have the ingredients to take over the market, if only they can add destination to requests. I prefer Uber to bolt cos, the riders are better cultured and the whites, always ready and waiting to board at PU. Uber comes with peace of mind, transperant rating system, and seeing where your next trip is on the app.

Uber!!!
Always getting it wrong.
Charging Drivers and Riders the highest, how do they expect to grow? The only advantage they had over Bolt was Customer Support and App Stability. Bolt has so far covered this gap.
The only solution now is reduce fare reduce commission and do aggressive marketing.

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Felicity001(m): 3:36pm On Aug 17, 2021
bolutic:
Pls my oga I took one India guy he said he like my small car kia rio 2010 that the ac is superb that how much from lagos to delta state go only that I will take him very month

Hmm... What ever the case maybe just be sure you know how to drive long distance trip and high-highway driving. Lagos highway driving and inter state highway driving no be the same thing oh.

Ask him of his budget, make plans for ur reservation and feeding and make sure his offer covers for all of that.

Indians no dey pay well so expect something less but make sure the trip is worth it that's of you went on it.

Where in Delta state by the way? You can use the rider's app as you charging rate then multiply by 2 without adding cost of reservation, I.e if it's just drop off but if its to and fro do like wise then add reservation to the resulting amount.

I hope this helps.
May you find more favour. Isha alha!

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by themindpen(m): 3:40pm On Aug 17, 2021
[quote author=Felicity001 post=104894421]

Hi everyone,

What do you think about Corolla 2003 LE?

Do you think it works?
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Felicity001(m): 3:42pm On Aug 17, 2021
seyicodes:
Good afternoon nairalanders .. my account has been blocked.. I was told to take online course to be reactivated. I couldn't find any link to any online course .. please how do I go about it.

Hey bro hownis your HP going i trust great... Watin make them block your account na... Send Uche a mail... Their customer correspondent are not identified or present here so you can't get any remote assistance from here.

How about your online mechanic and spare parts plans you talked about the other time? I hope you're not dropping that dream.

Just checking and hope I'm not quoting the wrong moniker.

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by ReadaDream(m): 3:47pm On Aug 17, 2021
themindpen:
Hi everyone,

I would like to ask, is Corolla 2003 LE acceptable by Uber/Bolt/Indriver?

And is it a good choice as well?
angry lipsrsealed undecided
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Uniquisite: 3:49pm On Aug 17, 2021
tunlapapa:
Bolt just doesn't want to relent, they are all over the Internet space. Now on Jobberman.

I receive the same this morning.. 350K sound lucrative
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Felicity001(m): 3:50pm On Aug 17, 2021
morax101:
Got this in the mail just now. Let’s the competition begins but I just don’t know what’s wrong with their team, all what they need to do is to show destination and that’s what’s up mehn. Can’t embark on a trip without any idea of where I am going to in this Lagos and that’s why I use them for destination trips alone.

So we all should anticipate a counter increase in Bolt fare because bolt is always some Nairas above UberX in fare price.

Nice one from uber let the competition begin.

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by RocAid(m): 3:52pm On Aug 17, 2021
Good day pilots.

Please, I have a Honda element but I'd want to know if Uber and bolt accepts it.

I anticipate your kind response.
Thanks.
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by yusufdayo1: 3:58pm On Aug 17, 2021
Please your opinion is needed. I don't want to derail this thread. https://www.nairaland.com/6706744/get-uberbolt-get-land-opinion
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by IFSHR: 3:59pm On Aug 17, 2021
RocAid:
Good day pilots.

Please, I have a Honda element but I'd want to know if Uber and bolt accepts it.

I anticipate your kind response.
Thanks.

Yes they do, as long as the model year is 2003 upward for bolt....2000 upward for Uber.
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by seyicodes(m): 4:26pm On Aug 17, 2021
Felicity001:


Hey bro hownis your HP going i trust great... Watin make them block your account na... Send Uche a mail... Their customer correspondent are not identified or present here so you can't get any remote assistance from here.

How about your online mechanic and spare parts plans you talked about the other time? I hope you're not dropping that dream.

Just checking and hope I'm not quoting the wrong moniker.
Thank you very much boss for your response.. I don't know or have Mr Uche contact email. Please can you assist me with Mr Uche email address .. I don't know why they blocked me oo.. I am always friendly with most 9f my client .. I am not rude to them at all except 1 who said I should switch off my music because I am playing Naira Marley music.

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by XGhost: 4:29pm On Aug 17, 2021
Pearl1910:


Uber!!!
Always getting it wrong.
Charging Drivers and Riders the highest, how do they expect to grow? The only advantage they had over Bolt was Customer Support and App Stability. Bolt has so far covered this gap.
The only solution now is reduce fare reduce commission and do aggressive marketing.

I don't agree with you on the fares. I don't think most Uber riders mind the fare really, and I'm saying this cos I ask a lot of riders I converse with why they do bolt instead of Uber. It's mostly because of the pickup times and drivers refusing to go where they're going. BUT it's mostly pickup times. Bolt rides are usually closer to the rider since bolt mostly assigns trips based on proximity. Drivers also don't want to drive 5kms to pickup someone going maybe 10km, and this is me being generous, many times pickup distances are longer than the actual trip, so drivers will rightfully cancel.This has greatly impacted on their reliability. Many drivers ported, riders ported too.
If they switch to assignment by proximity, show rider destination along with these fares, BOOM... I'm game.
I've always preferred Uber as a company but man's gotta secure the bag.

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by XGhost: 4:32pm On Aug 17, 2021
seyicodes:
Thank you very much boss for your response.. I don't know or have Mr Uche contact email. Please can you assist me with Mr Uche email address .. I don't know why they blocked me oo.. I am always friendly with most 9f my client .. I am not rude to them at all except 1 who said I should switch off my music because I am playing Naira Marley music.

May have been me o shocked
Just kidding, if it was me I'd ask you to as well, I hate it and I tune out when it's on cos of a rider.

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Felicity001(m): 4:49pm On Aug 17, 2021
Pearl1910:


Uber!!!
Always getting it wrong.
Charging Drivers and Riders the highest, how do they expect to grow? The only advantage they had over Bolt was Customer Support and App Stability. Bolt has so far covered this gap.
The only solution now is reduce fare reduce commission and do aggressive marketing.

They have the market already bros but their strict business policy is what is kicking against them, who knows if they've a standing contract or franchise in Nigeria because I see no reason why they still don't want to shift grounds even with numerous calls from both drivers partners and the customer- riders about some of their policies.

What will it take to at least review destination of a ride request?

Allow drivers to cancel without haven to drive 5km to PU then wait 5min b4 cancelling on every trip the driver doesn't wish to embark on due to destination not been reviewed at the point of accepting the ride. It's a stupid, crazy and senseless policy to say the least.

Another annoying thing is you can't even mail them unless via their app weather as a rider or a driver... Nonsense!

So if BAZ001 eventually migrate to the USA now Will they tell him to go on a trip to where he doesn't even know at all? grin

Will they go bankrupt if they reduce commission to say 18% or re-introduce a similar campaign like the one they had b4 the lockdown? 3% after 20 rides in a week... Mad campaign... See how drivers where well behaved and working hard and cashing out and making money for them as well then.

The average rider in Nigeria already have the notion Uber is expensive, even their surge can go as high as 3.5x just imagine the impact this recent increase will tell on riders pockets come December yet they're going home with a whooping 25%+N20 commission on each trip. No na! O wrong!

What will it take uber to allow both the driver's and rider's app run simultaneously on the same phone? Meaning, as a uber driver partner you can't use the rider's app to order a ride for yourself or a relative or friends who are stranded somewhere or need to go out, you can't order a ride to take your wife and kids out even when you're not available. Just imagine!


Now consider these things:

No pension for drivers

No health care for drivers

No Bonus/incentives

No festive/new year package

No cheap loan facilities for drivers to assist them with fixing of their car or carry out some medical bill payment or add up to get a car

No retirement benefit say after partnership with them for some numbers of years.

No free rides for drivers fully paid 100% if they request from the same mobile number used to register their driver's account maybe if they don't feel like driving, travel or for some any reasons

Nothing of any kinds... Yet drivers partners are paying millions of naira yearly to their coffers. And funny enough they still go ahead to block or suspend a driver's account to low rating, high cancellation rate aming others... Isn't this a dracula policy?

Have You ever sat down to calculate how much you pay as commission to Bolt and Uber in a year b4? You may go mad knowing and yet no form of appreciation from them after many years of partnership, the only thing you get is achievement from your personal savings from your earnings.

Just see the lagos state government who provided road from tax payers money oh, even after taxes and operating licenses being paid yearly by these companies yet they still collect N20per trip and drivers are the one paying for it, yet we the drivers championing all these expenses get nothing other than 75/80%-N20. It's that crazy?

Theae are parts of the things we as good citizens of the country need to come together to address for the betterment of our life, the government will only use their power to get what they want but we as a people we have to also use our rights to also get what we want from either the government or any organisation we're using our lifespan to discharge their duties for.

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Crvrider: 4:50pm On Aug 17, 2021
XGhost:


I don't agree with you on the fares. I don't think most Uber riders mind the fare really, and I'm saying this cos I ask a lot of riders I converse with why they do bolt instead of Uber. It's mostly because of the pickup times and drivers refusing to go where they're going. BUT it's mostly pickup times. Bolt rides are usually closer to the rider since bolt mostly assigns trips based on proximity. Drivers also don't want to drive 5kms to pickup someone going maybe 10km, and this is me being generous, many times pickup distances are longer than the actual trip, so drivers will rightfully cancel.This has greatly impacted on their reliability. Many drivers ported, riders ported too.
If they switch to assignment by proximity, show rider destination along with these fares, BOOM... I'm game.
I've always preferred Uber as a company but man's gotta secure the bag.

I think its different strokes for different folks. I once carried a lady on Indriver who said she preferred bolt to uber because of her perceived conviction that bolt is cheaper.
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by XGhost: 5:15pm On Aug 17, 2021
Crvrider:


I think its different strokes for different folks. I once carried a lady on Indriver who said she preferred bolt to uber because of her perceived conviction that bolt is cheaper.

You're also right... One chic I carried some days ago said she preferred Indriver, that the drivers always look for the shortest route possible unlike bolt drivers "wey go carry person de turn turn the whole Lagos".

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by XGhost: 5:25pm On Aug 17, 2021
In other un-driving related news, the grammar here, nna mehn. Its terribly amusing. Sometimes I can't read posts fully. The construction of sentences, spellings, faulty use of tenses, OMG!!! I believe some folks basically spell-as-pronounced cos mannnn I can't comprehend.
AND IT'S HIRE, HIRE, HIRE PURCHASE... as in to HIRE/RENT-TO-OWN NOT HIGHER PURCHASE.
Thanks you for thanking me, don't menchon it.

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by bolutic(m): 5:34pm On Aug 17, 2021
I drive long distances before bolt cames out mind you sir I use manual not auto manual is for man not baby driver he told me 45k but I told him I will get back to him.just drop off only every month bolt charge 38k to 47k
Felicity001:


Hmm... What ever the case maybe just be sure you know how to drive long distance trip and high-highway driving. Lagos highway driving and inter state highway driving no be the same thing oh.

Ask him of his budget, make plans for ur reservation and feeding and make sure his offer covers for all of that.

Indians no dey pay well so expect something less but make sure the trip is worth it that's of you went on it.

Where in Delta state by the way? You can use the rider's app as you charging rate then multiply by 2 without adding cost of reservation, I.e if it's just drop off but if its to and fro do like wise then add reservation to the resulting amount.

I hope this helps.
May you find more favour. Isha alha!
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Pearl1910: 5:37pm On Aug 17, 2021
XGhost:


I don't agree with you on the fares. I don't think most Uber riders mind the fare really, and I'm saying this cos I ask a lot of riders I converse with why they do bolt instead of Uber. It's mostly because of the pickup times and drivers refusing to go where they're going. BUT it's mostly pickup times. Bolt rides are usually closer to the rider since bolt mostly assigns trips based on proximity. Drivers also don't want to drive 5kms to pickup someone going maybe 10km, and this is me being generous, many times pickup distances are longer than the actual trip, so drivers will rightfully cancel.This has greatly impacted on their reliability. Many drivers ported, riders ported too.
If they switch to assignment by proximity, show rider destination along with these fares, BOOM... I'm game.
I've always preferred Uber as a company but man's gotta secure the bag.

Bolt took over even before they started showing riders destination to drivers.
Drivers ported to Bolt because they stood a chance of earning more.
Riders ported to abolt because they spent less on same trip compared to Uber.

The driving factors here is price a rider pays and what a driver stands to make. If Uber was cheaper for riders and more lucrative for drivers, drivers will not mind using uber. Highest na to ask Rider where they r going, for me that's not a big deal cos I still do it to confirm what I see while using Bolt

What made Bolt takeover was the no cancellation fee and then cheaper fare for rider, more money for driver. Not forgetting Bolt was generous with bonuses on both sides.

Long pick up on Uber is a side effect of Drivers not using the App anymore, so if they want to solve their problem of customer migration, they should look at d root cause not focusing on the symptoms.
If they want to serve a small niche of the population that's fine, then fare may not be the problem, but u and I know that in this Nigeria, u will not flourish doing that, cos d people that have d money will rather drive their cars or employ a driver 90% of the time.
Reason why they discontinued the higher Uber Categories. Bolt too tried that premium service but drivers complained they weren't getting trips on it. U hardly see individuals using Bolt corporate because it is more expensive. How many people will see 1k and 1,200 for same trip and choose 1,200? Why do u think Indriver is growing? Why did Uber remove their pricing from Google map??
So my brother price is d king in this business.

Uber has started small small to give juicy bonus to drivers. 30trips Monday to Thursday 7k. This is to lure drivers back with high earnings. But if u pursue d riders with higher fares, it's counterproductive. Except Bolt too will increase fare, which I doubt.

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Pearl1910: 5:46pm On Aug 17, 2021
Crvrider:


I think its different strokes for different folks. I once carried a lady on Indriver who said she preferred bolt to uber because of her perceived conviction that bolt is cheaper.

Yes ooo...and there was a period that Bolt was actually more expensive. But people had already been captivated by Bolt. Uber dull I swear.

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Pearl1910: 5:50pm On Aug 17, 2021
Felicity001:


They have the market already bros but their strict business policy is what is kicking against them, who knows if they've a standing contract or franchise in Nigeria because I see no reason why they still don't want to shift grounds even with numerous calls from both drivers partners and the customer- riders about some of their policies.

What will it take to at least review destination of a ride request?

Allow drivers to cancel without haven to drive 5km to PU then wait 5min b4 cancelling on every trip the driver doesn't wish to embark on due to destination not been reviewed at the point of accepting the ride. It's a stupid, crazy and senseless policy to say the least.

Another annoying thing is you can't even mail them unless via their app weather as a rider or a driver... Nonsense!

So if BAZ001 eventually migrate to the USA now Will they tell him to go on a trip to where he doesn't even know at all? grin

Will they go bankrupt if they reduce commission to say 18% or re-introduce a similar campaign like the one they had b4 the lockdown? 3% after 20 rides in a week... Mad campaign... See how drivers where well behaved and working hard and cashing out and making money for them as well then.

The average rider in Nigeria already have the notion Uber is expensive, even their surge can go as high as 3.5x just imagine the impact this recent increase will tell on riders pockets come December yet they're going home with a whooping 25%+N20 commission on each trip. No na! O wrong!

What will it take uber to allow both the driver's and rider's app run simultaneously on the same phone? Meaning, as a uber driver partner you can't use the rider's app to order a ride for yourself or a relative or friends who are stranded somewhere or need to go out, you can't order a ride to take your wife and kids out even when you're not available. Just imagine!


Now consider these things:

No pension for drivers

No health care for drivers

No Bonus/incentives

No festive/new year package

No cheap loan facilities for drivers to assist them with fixing of their car or carry out some medical bill payment or add up to get a car

No retirement benefit say after partnership with them for some numbers of years.

No free rides for drivers fully paid 100% if they request from the same mobile number used to register their driver's account maybe if they don't feel like driving, travel or for some any reasons

Nothing of any kinds... Yet drivers partners are paying millions of naira yearly to their coffers. And funny enough they still go ahead to block or suspend a driver's account to low rating, high cancellation rate aming others... Isn't this a dracula policy?

Have You ever sat down to calculate how much you pay as commission to Bolt and Uber in a year b4? You may go mad knowing and yet no form of appreciation from them after many years of partnership, the only thing you get is achievement from your personal savings from your earnings.

Just see the lagos state government who provided road from tax payers money oh, even after taxes and operating licenses being paid yearly by these companies yet they still collect N20per trip and drivers are the one paying for it, yet we the drivers championing all these expenses get nothing other than 75/80%-N20. It's that crazy?

Theae are parts of the things we as good citizens of the country need to come together to address for the betterment of our life, the government will only use their power to get what they want but we as a people we have to also use our rights to also get what we want from either the government or any organisation we're using our lifespan to discharge their duties for.

The amazing thing is that they are flexible in the western countries, different policies for different states in the US, different policy for UK and other European countries, they adjust to suit the demands of the city/state but they are just adamant in Nigeria. Like u said the Nigerian team needs to be slapped, for allowing this to happen to them.

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Felicity001(m): 5:51pm On Aug 17, 2021
yusufdayo1:
Please your opinion is needed. I don't want to derail this thread.
https://www.nairaland.com/6706744/get-uberbolt-get-land-opinion

Let him follow the family advice... He can get a rental to study and understand the uber business to know if he should get a loan to either buy a car or use the loan to build on the land. Besides where does want to get a loan now? From relatives, cooperative or cooperate bank? With which collateral?
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by northbird: 5:56pm On Aug 17, 2021
bolutic:
I drive long distances before bolt cames out mind you sir I use manual not auto manual is for man not baby driver he told me 45k but I told him I will get back to him.just drop off only every month bolt charge 38k to 47k

45k ke shocked :-. From here to Delta. Nitori olorun.

You better tell him off, what kind of stupid offer is that. embarassed

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by northbird: 6:13pm On Aug 17, 2021
Kudos to Akin Laguda and his team. I mean, Bolt has really improved.

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by cybertron88: 6:43pm On Aug 17, 2021
Please is an Honda Accord 04 V6 suitable for this business? I intend using mine as a side hustle doing few trips after work then full time on weekends. Please I need advise.
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by knytred: 6:54pm On Aug 17, 2021
even destination trip them go still fall your hand


morax101:
Got this in the mail just now. Let’s the competition begins but I just don’t know what’s wrong with their team, all what they need to do is to show destination and that’s what’s up mehn. Can’t embark on a trip without any idea of where I am going to in this Lagos and that’s why I use them for destination trips alone.

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Conner44: 7:07pm On Aug 17, 2021
XGhost:
In other un-driving related news, the grammar here, nna mehn. Its terribly amusing. Sometimes I can't read posts fully. The construction of sentences, spellings, faulty use of tenses, OMG!!! I believe some folks basically spell-as-pronounced cos mannnn I can't comprehend.
AND IT'S HIRE, HIRE, HIRE PURCHASE... as in to HIRE/RENT-TO-OWN NOT HIGHER PURCHASE.
Thanks you for thanking me, don't menchon it.

If Nigeria has a dracula policy undecided

Then safe to say that Afghanistan has the van helsing type lol grin

Nor be everybody been pass GNS/GST without rubber neck that year sha and Nigerians naturally shy away from reading novels or books. we will overcome

Today I need ibuprofen for headache from reading this thread

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Johnnybegood12: 7:10pm On Aug 17, 2021
bolutic:
I drive long distances before bolt cames out mind you sir[b] I use manual [/b]not auto manual is for man not baby driver he told me 45k but I told him I will get back to him.just drop off only every month bolt charge 38k to 47k
Pls can u share Ur experience in this e-hailing hustle with Ur manual car ?
How convenient is it in Lagos?
Like how much do u net I a week or a day?
How many hours do u work to achieve the above question?
Am asking because I just bought a manual car for the hustle.
What are Ur challenges driving manual?

I anticipate Ur reply and any other person with experience in the above.
Thanks
Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by Conner44: 7:13pm On Aug 17, 2021
cybertron88:
Please is an Honda Accord 04 V6 suitable for this business? I intend using mine as a side hustle doing few trips after work then full time on weekends. Please I need advise.

Of course it will work well for Uber if it’s a well maintained car. The only issue is that the distance where a regular 4cyl will consume N100 fuel your v6 will take N130

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Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by XGhost: 7:20pm On Aug 17, 2021
Pearl1910:


Bolt took over even before they started showing riders destination to drivers.
Drivers ported to Bolt because they stood a chance of earning more.
Riders ported to abolt because they spent less on same trip compared to Uber.

The driving factors here is price a rider pays and what a driver stands to make. If Uber was cheaper for riders and more lucrative for drivers, drivers will not mind using uber. Highest na to ask Rider where they r going, for me that's not a big deal cos I still do it to confirm what I see while using Bolt

What made Bolt takeover was the no cancellation fee and then cheaper fare for rider, more money for driver. Not forgetting Bolt was generous with bonuses on both sides.

Long pick up on Uber is a side effect of Drivers not using the App anymore, so if they want to solve their problem of customer migration, they should look at d root cause not focusing on the symptoms.
If they want to serve a small niche of the population that's fine, then fare may not be the problem, but u and I know that in this Nigeria, u will not flourish doing that, cos d people that have d money will rather drive their cars or employ a driver 90% of the time.
Reason why they discontinued the higher Uber Categories. Bolt too tried that premium service but drivers complained they weren't getting trips on it. U hardly see individuals using Bolt corporate because it is more expensive. How many people will see 1k and 1,200 for same trip and choose 1,200? Why do u think Indriver is growing? Why did Uber remove their pricing from Google map??
So my brother price is d king in this business.

Uber has started small small to give juicy bonus to drivers. 30trips Monday to Thursday 7k. This is to lure drivers back with high earnings. But if u pursue d riders with higher fares, it's counterproductive. Except Bolt too will increase fare, which I doubt.

I see your perspective... Maybe it's my bias for uber, if no be say... I won't go near bolt for anything

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