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Re: There’s Nothing Like Mainstream Igbo, We’re All Igbos’: Chike Ogeah by Rugaria: 7:23pm On Aug 21, 2021
KratosCorp:
I think it has something to do with his boss, Nduka. If he openly identifies as a proud Igbo man, like this guest did, I don't think Ruben would have the guts to use the platform to spew his anti Igbo sentiment.

Abati has been like that right from his days at The Guardian..

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Re: There’s Nothing Like Mainstream Igbo, We’re All Igbos’: Chike Ogeah by Liebermantic: 8:34pm On Aug 21, 2021
gidgiddy:


To be Igbo, your surname has to be Igbo. Your first name can be anything, but your surname is your ancestral name. Lucky Irabor comes Agbor, an Igbo speaking area that has border with Edo state. I have been to Agbor many times and I know they have an Edo minority there.

Lucky Irabor comes from the Edo minority in Agbor, Irabor is a well known Edo surname. It like someone with the name Emeka Adebayor claiming to be Igbo while parading a Yoruba surname
It's not necessarily the case.. Bearing Bini Surname doesn't make him Bini..Which language does he speak?
Do they even understand Bini?
I gave an Instance of Abdulfatai Buhari, a senator representing Oyo North Senatorial district..
Buhari is a FULANI name..Why is he bearing a FULANI name?
Re: There’s Nothing Like Mainstream Igbo, We’re All Igbos’: Chike Ogeah by Liebermantic: 8:35pm On Aug 21, 2021
gidgiddy:


To be Igbo, your surname has to be Igbo. Your first name can be anything, but your surname is your ancestral name. Lucky Irabor comes Agbor, an Igbo speaking area that has border with Edo state. I have been to Agbor many times and I know they have an Edo minority there.

Lucky Irabor comes from the Edo minority in Agbor, Irabor is a well known Edo surname. It like someone with the name Emeka Adebayor claiming to be Igbo while parading a Yoruba surname
So Funsho Williams, a Former LAGOS PDP candidate was an English man according to you
Re: There’s Nothing Like Mainstream Igbo, We’re All Igbos’: Chike Ogeah by Liebermantic: 8:42pm On Aug 21, 2021
PROUDIGBO:


Shut up!

That fool is not Igbo....and i don’t give a fck where he claims to hail from!

Can you cite any instance where the man identified with Ndigbo or any Igbo cause? Why be say one has to dig deep and do research before locating his purported Igbo name....or is he trying to hide something?

Why don’t you kukuma add Loretta Onochie as another person ‘representing Igbo interests’ in Buharis’ bigoted, anti-Igbo gov’t!?
Then Senator Abdulfatai Buhari from Oyo is not a Yoruba..
Desmond Elliot is not a Yoruba
Funsho Williams is not a Yoruba
Re: There’s Nothing Like Mainstream Igbo, We’re All Igbos’: Chike Ogeah by tandy2013: 8:47pm On Aug 21, 2021
jerseyboy:
There are no Igbos in Niger Delta.
The massacre in Asaba was because Ojukwu removed an Uhrobo mad David Ejoor and made an Asaba man Major Albert Okonkwo Head of State of the occupation of the Midwest. Asaba people became a target as a result of this association.

What is Niger delta? Slave name . Igbo is igbo

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Re: There’s Nothing Like Mainstream Igbo, We’re All Igbos’: Chike Ogeah by Eastlink(m): 8:58pm On Aug 21, 2021
EmekaA125:

No need continuing this conversation with you. Ebonyi State was part of old Anambra before Abacha carved it out in 1996. The present status of the state is not bad. No Igbo is more or inferior than the other. We speak one language, culture and identity—IGBO.
God bless NDIGBO.
God bless S/EAST.
God bless MAZI NNAMDI KANU.
That’s how it should be
Re: There’s Nothing Like Mainstream Igbo, We’re All Igbos’: Chike Ogeah by NikAustine: 9:11pm On Aug 21, 2021
jerseyboy:
There are tiny Igbos here and there around Asaba. This Chike himself is not Igbo. Ogeah his last name is Edoid. His mother is Yoruba. His wife is Yoruba. He is posturing and will soon be corrected.
And yet the Asagba say him be Igbo
Na so una call Obi of Onitsha say na Benin
But atlas he is an igbo man.

Lol pockets of Igbos here and there? Asaba is Igbo land... Oshimili & Aniocha is igbo land . Enuani is Igbos they have always shouted it up high..

Na those identity crisis Ikas and Ukwuanis Dem dey say demmno be igbo ..

Anyways those ones have mentioned that are Igbos they form at best 30% of delta state so that all they need and fortunately they are much closer to Onitsha than to Benin or even warri...so before una go do anything to them...the Anambras go teach una lesson









Asagba of Asaba in Benin Royal Regalia.
Re: There’s Nothing Like Mainstream Igbo, We’re All Igbos’: Chike Ogeah by NikAustine: 9:13pm On Aug 21, 2021
jerseyboy:
There are tiny Igbos here and there around Asaba. This Chike himself is not Igbo. Ogeah his last name is Edoid. His mother is Yoruba. His wife is Yoruba. He is posturing and will soon be corrected.





And yet the Asagba say him be Igbo
Na so una call Obi of Onitsha say na Benin
But atlas he is an igbo man.

Lol pockets of Igbos here and there? Asaba is Igbo land... Oshimili & Aniocha is igbo land . Enuani is Igbos they have always shouted it up high..

Na those identity crisis Ikas and Ukwuanis Dem dey say demmno be igbo ..

Anyways those ones have mentioned that are Igbos they form at best 30% of delta state so that all they need and fortunately they are much closer to Onitsha than to Benin or even warri...so before una go do anything to them...the Anambras go teach una lesson









Asagba of Asaba in Benin Royal Regalia.[/quote]
Re: There’s Nothing Like Mainstream Igbo, We’re All Igbos’: Chike Ogeah by gidgiddy: 9:38pm On Aug 21, 2021
Liebermantic:

Why are many Yorubas bearing Islamic,FULANI, Spanish and English Surnames?
General Leo Irabor has two IGBO names which the Family bear but he chose Bini name for political expediency to enhance his chances of attaining the top position in Nigerian Army..
His name is General Lucky Eluonye Onyenuchea (LEO) Irabor..Pure Igbo man..
The Spokesman of Nigerian Army ,Onyema Nwachukwu is from Ndokwa(Ukwuani clan) another Igbo group with identity issue

Yoruba is not Igbo, what obtains in Yoruba land is not always in Igbo land. In Igbo land, your first and second name can be anything, but your surname must be Igbo. Irabor is not an Igbo surname, it is an Edo surname and Lucky Irabor is from Agbor that has border with Edo

His first and second names comes from the fact that he was born in an Igbo speaking area, but his last name shows that his ancestors are Edo people. No Igbo man can bear an Edo surname "Irabor". So please stop calling Lucky Irabor an Igbo just because he has two middle names that are Igbo. I have two middle English names but Im not English. My surname tells everyone I am Igbo
Re: There’s Nothing Like Mainstream Igbo, We’re All Igbos’: Chike Ogeah by Ariani: 10:26pm On Aug 21, 2021
gidgiddy:


Yoruba is not Igbo, what obtains in Yoruba land is not always in Igbo land. In Igbo land, your first and second name can be anything, but your surname must be Igbo. Irabor is not an Igbo surname, it is an Edo surname and Lucky Irabor is from Agbor that has border with Edo

His first and second names comes from the fact that he was born in an Igbo speaking area, but his last name shows that his ancestors are Edo people. No Igbo man can bear an Edo surname "Irabor". So please stop calling Lucky Irabor an Igbo just because he has two middle names that are Igbo. I have two middle English names but Im not English. My surname tells everyone I am Igbo

While I agree that Irabor is not Igbo because he himself has never identified as Igbo for once , likewise his king the Dein of Agbor and many other Agbor people, they all live in nostalgia of their Bini (slavery) days.

However, your view that to be Igbo is totally dependent on having an Igbo last name is totally false.
First of all, you have to know that the idea of bearing a paternal surname is alien to ancient Igbos.
Because Igboland was a mainly polygamous patriarchal society, children were often identified by their mother's name and not their father's name.
You hear things like, "is that not chike, "Agbonma's son? Nope that is Onyeka Ugochi's son.
So in gatherings, Chike would be called Chike Agbonma, while Onyeka would be called Onyeka Ugochi.
This is because in a single big polygamous compound, the wives can have children bearing similar names. As they all belonged to the same man, the names of their mothers becomes a better way to distinguish them.

Furthermore, most surnames are usually first names of an ancestor in the past.
If an Ika man marries an Edo woman who bears him a son and names the Son Irabor in her native language.
Irabor will speak IKa(an Igboid language) and his descendants might adopt Irabor as their surname.
You see lots of these non Igbo names in borderline Igbo clans.
For example,in Nsukka, it's common to see many Igala surnames borne by the people, likewise Idoma sounding names in Ebonyi and parts of Enugu sharing boundaries with Idomas.
I have met an Aro man with the surname Ekong. Lol!
These are usually names acquired through non Igbo mothers that survives as surnames down the line and should not be a factor to determine ones ethnicity.

Additionally, in olden days, people give their children names of their good friend.
An Aro man with an Efik man as best friend could have easily given his Igbo son an Efik name in honour of the friend.

People also arbitrary name their children after powerful public persons. Many Anioma people were giving their kids names of powerful Bini princes and Obas.
Imagine that GEJ parents named him Azikwe because they admired Zik. How many Nigerians gave their children the name Clinton during the his reign as USA president?
Hundreds!

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Re: There’s Nothing Like Mainstream Igbo, We’re All Igbos’: Chike Ogeah by Liebermantic: 11:11pm On Aug 21, 2021
gidgiddy:


Yoruba is not Igbo, what obtains in Yoruba land is not always in Igbo land. In Igbo land, your first and second name can be anything, but your surname must be Igbo. Irabor is not an Igbo surname, it is an Edo surname and Lucky Irabor is from Agbor that has border with Edo

His first and second names comes from the fact that he was born in an Igbo speaking area, but his last name shows that his ancestors are Edo people. No Igbo man can bear an Edo surname "Irabor". So please stop calling Lucky Irabor an Igbo just because he has two middle names that are Igbo. I have two middle English names but Im not English. My surname tells everyone I am Igbo
Ika before 1967 were Igbo clan.. Whoever is found inside Ika remains IGBO..
Is Rita Dominic an English Lady?
Stella Damascus should also be English according to your logic.
Yorubas bearing FULANI Surames are Yoruba purely but IGBOs bearing English or Bini Surnames are Bini or English, right?..Ewu!
Re: There’s Nothing Like Mainstream Igbo, We’re All Igbos’: Chike Ogeah by Fejoku: 11:22pm On Aug 21, 2021
Ariani:


While I agree that Irabor is not Igbo because he himself has never identified as Igbo for once , likewise his king the Dein of Agbor and many other Agbor people, they all live in nostalgia of their Bini (slavery) days.

However, your view that to be Igbo is totally dependent on having an Igbo last name is totally false.
First of all, you have to know that the idea of bearing a paternal surname is alien to ancient Igbos.
Because Igboland was a mainly polygamous patriarchal society, children were often identified by their mother's name and not their father's name.
You hear things like, "is that not chike, "Agbonma's son? Nope that is Onyeka Ugochi's son.
So in gatherings, Chike would be called Chike Agbonma, while Onyeka would be called Onyeka Ugochi.
This is because in a single big polygamous compound, the wives can have children bearing similar names. As they all belonged to the same man, the names of their mothers becomes a better way to distinguish them.

Furthermore, most surnames are usually first names of an ancestor in the past.
If an Ika man marries an Edo woman who bears him a son and names the Son Irabor in her native language.
Irabor will speak IKa(an Igboid language) and his descendants might adopt Irabor as their surname.
You see lots of these non Igbo names in borderline Igbo clans.
For example,in Nsukka, it's common to see many Igala surnames borne by the people, likewise Idoma sounding names in Ebonyi and parts of Enugu sharing boundaries with Idomas.
I have met an Aro man with the surname Ekong. Lol!
These are usually names acquired through non Igbo mothers that survives as surnames down the line and should not be a factor to determine ones ethnicity.

Additionally, in olden days, people give their children names of their good friend.
An Aro man with an Efik man as best friend could have easily given his Igbo son an Efik name in honour of the friend.

People also arbitrary name their children after powerful public persons. Many Anioma people were giving their kids names of powerful Bini princes and Obas.
Imagine that GEJ parents named him Azikwe because they admired Zik. How many Nigerians gave their children the name Clinton during the his reign as USA president?
Hundreds!
You are very correct.

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Re: There’s Nothing Like Mainstream Igbo, We’re All Igbos’: Chike Ogeah by Buckeyemedia1: 11:23pm On Aug 21, 2021
Grace001:
There is a reason why Nigeria government gave igbo 5 states, and separated them from the Deltans and the likes. Unfortunately most deltans still find their root to igbo tribes.
Lying to yourself is your prerogative, Delta state was former Bendel, & prior MidWestern State, it was never in history part of Eastern Nigeria.

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Re: There’s Nothing Like Mainstream Igbo, We’re All Igbos’: Chike Ogeah by Liebermantic: 11:25pm On Aug 21, 2021
gidgiddy:


Yoruba is not Igbo, what obtains in Yoruba land is not always in Igbo land. In Igbo land, your first and second name can be anything, but your surname must be Igbo. Irabor is not an Igbo surname, it is an Edo surname and Lucky Irabor is from Agbor that has border with Edo

His first and second names comes from the fact that he was born in an Igbo speaking area, but his last name shows that his ancestors are Edo people. No Igbo man can bear an Edo surname "Irabor". So please stop calling Lucky Irabor an Igbo just because he has two middle names that are Igbo. I have two middle English names but Im not English. My surname tells everyone I am Igbo
He doesn't need to identify to be called an Igbo..
Trump has German ancestry but doesn't identify with Germany.
Why are some Yorubas bearing FULANI, Islamic and English Surnames?
Re: There’s Nothing Like Mainstream Igbo, We’re All Igbos’: Chike Ogeah by EmekaA125(m): 11:25pm On Aug 21, 2021
Eastlink:
That’s how it should be
Rubbish. God bless Mazi Nnamdi Hillary Okwu Kanu. God bless IPOB.

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Re: There’s Nothing Like Mainstream Igbo, We’re All Igbos’: Chike Ogeah by NikAustine: 2:23am On Aug 22, 2021
jerseyboy
AND YET THE ASABA KING SAID HE IS IGBO... and yet the Asabas, the Oshimili,Aniocha, Enuani have never
denied their igboness and they form a large percentage of delta state.....
oga no dey lie jor .

Make guelfriend is Igbo from Delta.. Anioma. Not from that ika or ukwuani sides o...no, she can't be part of people that deny their identity.

5:

There are tiny Igbos here and there around Asaba. This Chike himself is not Igbo. Ogeah his last name is Edoid. His mother is Yoruba. His wife is Yoruba. He is posturing and will soon be corrected.









Asagba of Asaba in Benin Royal Regalia.
Re: There’s Nothing Like Mainstream Igbo, We’re All Igbos’: Chike Ogeah by gidgiddy: 2:30am On Aug 22, 2021
Liebermantic:

Ika before 1967 were Igbo clan.. Whoever is found inside Ika remains IGBO..
Is Rita Dominic an English Lady?
Stella Damascus should also be English according to your logic.
Yorubas bearing FULANI Surames are Yoruba purely but IGBOs bearing English or Bini Surnames are Bini or English..Ewu!

Stop reasoning like a fool. Lucky Irabor with an Edo surname has never told you he is an Igbo man.

We are even debating about people like Rotimi Amaechi, Nyesom Wike and Sunday Oliseh that have Igbo surnames and are from Igbo speaking areas, if they are Igbo

You want us to be debating about Lucky Irabor who has an Edo surname? Guy get sense
Re: There’s Nothing Like Mainstream Igbo, We’re All Igbos’: Chike Ogeah by chrisxxx(m): 2:47am On Aug 22, 2021
gaetano:
I like the fact that he acknowledged that it's OK for the ikwerres not to identify as ịgbo but them the aniomas and the Igbos in kogi and benue are aware of their igboness.

But abatti is mad. He kept insisting that their are mainstream Igbos and their are other igbo speaking people, while chike from anioma is telling him that igbo is ịgbo and there's nothing like that. Thank for clearing them on national TV. Stop with the divide and rule shit.
We the Ikwerre people are saying that Igbo is Ikwerre. That is where we have the disagreement. We insist after much studies that Igbo is a subgroup of the Ikwerre people. Please don't look at size or number as truth is not often determine by democratic means that is to say by majority.

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Re: There’s Nothing Like Mainstream Igbo, We’re All Igbos’: Chike Ogeah by chrisxxx(m): 3:05am On Aug 22, 2021
proeast:


Everything is already clear like daylight. Chike Ogeah is obviously intelligent and smart. I like his thought process. However, the argument is not just about having an Igbo man as president but on equality and fairness to all geopolitical zones. The other 5 zones have had their fair share except SE.

About who identifies as Igbo or not is already very clear. In Delta State, all the Igbo speaking communities around Asaba, including Ogwashiukwu, Oshilimi and the rest are proud Igbos and their traditional rulers and elite also show it. Ngozi Okonjo Iweala, Ned Nwoko, the Asagba of Asaba, the Elumelu family, Pat Utomi etc all wear their Igbo tag with pride but those at the fringes bordering Edo state, particularly Ika people see Bini as their masters. They're also the ones Reno Omokri called descendants of Bini and Itshekiri slaves.

In a nutshell, Ika and Ikwerres are not Igbos, their traditional rulers and politicians also show it.

If/when Biafra comes, the Ika can join Bini while Ikwerre joins Ijaw. They're the ones that will lose and suffer in the long run.
Bros I am Ikwerre. The sentiment among us is that we prefer being a slave in an Ijaw man country to being a prince in Biafra. We have never been Igbos. We never identified with Igbos when we had everything to gain before the war let alone now we have everything to lose.
You Igbo people are making a huge mistake. Ikwerre man feels very superior to anything Igbo. It has been that way right from time. He views anything Igbos as slave related. You may not blame Jim since through his doorpost most Igbos were dragged to the Atlantic and across for slavery. He still has that mentality that anything associated with Igbo has to do with slaves. Forgive me but that is the thinking of a typical Ikwerre man. If you call him Igbo what runs to his mind is that you are calling him a slave.
As a prove if you have link to Amaechi or Wike or any Ikwerre man of substance just address him as an Isuoma person. If he doesn't scatter that place with you let me know what happened.
Isuoma is what the Ikwerres call the Igbos. It is as disdainful as the nyamiri the Hàusa Fulanis call the Igbos.
In all an Ikwerre man will never in his life accept to be Igbos.
It is only in recent time the Ikwerre daughters started to get married to the Igbo men. Previously it was resented. The men can marry them but not as first wife but as an aid to the first wife
You need to leave with the Ikwerres to understand this feeling.
Re: There’s Nothing Like Mainstream Igbo, We’re All Igbos’: Chike Ogeah by EagleNest(m): 6:06am On Aug 22, 2021
Chike Ogeah spoke very well and make lots of sense on politics of president of Igbo extraction. Superb!
Re: There’s Nothing Like Mainstream Igbo, We’re All Igbos’: Chike Ogeah by velocity25(m): 6:27am On Aug 22, 2021
Commentor:


You are from Nnsuka then.

You are used to the epithets.
Wawa is way the way they say no in their dialect in nskuka area.

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