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FreeIgboho:
I am tempted but let me not call u mumu. I said it is possible reality is so weird we could be creating it with our beliefs. I never said quantum physics proves it or any such thing.

Alternative facts are spreading like a virus across society. Now it seems they have even infected science—at least the quantum realm. This may seem counter intuitive. The scientific method is after all founded on the reliable notions of observation, measurement and repeatability. A fact, as established by a measurement, should be objective, such that all observers can agree with it.

But in a paper recently published in Science Advances, we show that in the micro-world of atoms and particles that is governed by the strange rules of quantum mechanics, two different observers are entitled to their own facts. In other words, according to our best theory of the building blocks of nature itself, facts can actually be subjective.

So after reading what you posted you still didn’t understand that what the article was talking about?

How you observe a photon or election depends on the route of observation or measurement you chose. That’s what it means, you can create the way you see subatomic particles by choosing the kind of measurement that will either make you see it in a wave or particle form.


What kind of physicist are you? Please stop talking about physics

FreeIgboho:
My friend you keep using the word fallacy. Everything is fallacy, I thought I already drummed that into you. WE DON'T KNOW THE TRUE NATURE OF THINGS!!!
Get that into your head!

I am damn sure that Flying Spaghetti Monster created Yahweh and if you think because majority think otherwise then we have to also agree that the majority who thought that the earth is the center of the universe were right.

Workch:
So wave is not matter

Nothing wey person no go see for this nairaland

Since you change views from micro-matter to macro- matter, then every substance is matter, whether wave, water or metals.

As you said "depending on how it’s been observed."

What happens when people do not think as they read.

Dtruthspeaker:
Since you change views from micro-matter to macro- matter, then every substance is matter, whether wave, water or metals.

As you said "depending on how it’s been observed."

What happens when people do not think as they read.

lol

Workch:
So after reading what you posted you still didn’t understand that what the article was talking about?

How you observe a photon or election depends on the route of observation or measurement you chose. That’s what it means, you can create the way you see subatomic particles by choosing the kind of measurement that will either make you see it in a wave or particle form.

How dense can a person be! The nature of the particle depends on the observer AND one particle can be in ywo.places at once if no one is watching! What part of that don't u understand?
Do uneven know about the analogy of a cat dead and alive at same time in quantum physics??

Workch:
please embarrass me more, I am learning a lot from you.

I’m not agnostic, I believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster since you convinced me and I think he created Yahweh.

You are so full of wisdom

LOL.. You're funny.

First you said you believed in evolution then I challenged you a little and you said you don't believe anymore..

Anyways..

There is no atheist. You know why? Atheist comes from the Greek 'a theos'. Which means 'No God'. It is the belief that God doesn't exist.

Atheists believe that science backs them up but no.. Because scientifically, you can't be an atheist... It is scientifically impossible to be an atheist.. And i can prove it to you!

The word 'science' means knowledge. The definition of science is, 'knowledge about or study of the natural world based on facts learned through experiments and observation'.

In order for you to say that something exists, you have to have done a study and have facts to back it up.

So for you to say there is no God, you must have done a study and you have based your claim on facts and experience.

Because for you to say that someone doesn't exist you have to have all knowledge.. You have to know everything to say that something does not exist.. And no human does!

You can't, for instance, say that a place named limpopo doesn't exist. If you said so, I would ask you to show me your study. Show me how you came to that knowledge. Show me facts, experiments you've had, otherwise it is not scientific.. Its just your opinion.

If you say there is no abia state in Nigeria, I would ask you, 'have you been to every state in Nigeria'? Or have you studied all the states in Nigeria? Then you can't definitively say there is no abia state.

I can, however, say that there is an abia state. Do you know why? Because I have been there!

Do you know that the smartest man in the world said,' you can prove the existence of God, the soul and an afterlife using mathematics' (google it if you don't believe me).

But other smart people (like you) say otherwise.

Let's say your knowledge percentage is 1% (which is an unlikely estimate.. Could be less). Could it be possible that in the remaining 99% of all knowledge that you don't have, something exists that you don't know about? Of course (Please consider this).

So you can't say there is no God if you don't have all knowledge. Atheism.

But what you can say is you simply don't know that there is a God. Agnosticism.

Using that same logic I can say God exists because I know Him personally.. I have spoken to Him and He has spoken to me too.. Though I have never seen Him.. That's reserved for a latter time..

I once prayed for a girl having menstrual flow issues and while I was praying for her (this is what she later told me) she started feeling her flow come and when she got to her hostel, the flow came!

I have seen the supernatural. That is what I base me belief on.. Fact and experience.

So my question to you is this..

Have you tried to find out for yourself whether God exists or not? Have you conducted research? Is your belief in the non-existence of God factual? Or is it just sentimental?

Hismasterpiece:
LOL.. You're funny.

First you said you believed in evolution then I challenged you a little and you said you don't believe anymore..

Anyways..

There is no atheist. You know why? Atheist comes from the Greek 'a theos'. Which means 'No God'. It is the belief that God doesn't exist.

Atheists believe that science backs them up but no.. Because scientifically, you can't be an atheist... It is scientifically impossible to be an atheist.. And i can prove it to you!

The word 'science' means knowledge. The definition of science is, 'knowledge about or study of the natural world based on facts learned through experiments and observation'.

In order for you to say that something exists, you have to have done a study and have facts to back it up.

So for you to say there is no God, you must have done a study and you have based your claim on facts and experience.

Because for you to say that someone doesn't exist you have to have all knowledge.. You have to know everything to say that something does not exist.. And no human does!

You can't, for instance, say that a place named limpopo doesn't exist. If you said so, I would ask you to show me your study. Show me how you came to that knowledge. Show me facts, experiments you've had, otherwise it is not scientific.. Its just your opinion.

If you say there is no abia state in Nigeria, I would ask you, 'have you been to every state in Nigeria'? Or have you studied all the states in Nigeria? Then you can't definitively say there is no abia state.

I can, however, say that there is an abia state. Do you know why? Because I have been there!

Do you know that the smartest man in the world said,' you can prove the existence of God, the soul and an afterlife using mathematics' (google it if you don't believe me).

But other smart people (like you) say otherwise.

Let's say your knowledge percentage is 1% (which is an unlikely estimate.. Could be less). Could it be possible that in the remaining 99% of all knowledge that you don't have, something exists that you don't know about? Of course (Please consider this).

So you can't say there is no God if you don't have all knowledge. Atheism.

But what you can say is you simply don't know that there is a God. Agnosticism.

Using that same logic I can say God exists because I know Him personally.. I have spoken to Him and He has spoken to me too.. Though I have never seen Him.. That's reserved for a latter time..

I once prayed for a girl having menstrual flow issues and while I was praying for her (this is what she later told me) she started feeling her flow come and when she got to her hostel, the flow came!

I have seen the supernatural. That is what I base me belief on.. Fact and experience.

So my question to you is this..

Have you tried to find out for yourself whether God exists or not? Have you conducted research? Is your belief in the non-existence of God factual? Or is it just sentimental?

Like I said, you have really done a great work trying to change my mind, now I don’t believe in evolution and I believe in god. You did this in a masterclass of not even providing a single evidence.

The god I choose to believe is the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Do you have a problem with that?

Dtruthspeaker:
[s]No it does not affect any who is a True and Obedient follower and lover of God.

And most people are not, including those who claim to love God and call themselves "Christians" but they are no different from you who also call yourselves "I do not think there is God" people.

Depression, Despair, Destruction, Desolation, Disappointnent, (and all the bad "'s" Anguish, Sorrows are the very effects of living away from The Goodness of God.[/s]

Trash

FreeIgboho:
How dense can a person be! The nature of the particle depends on the observer AND one particle can be in ywo.places at once if no one is watching! What part of that don't u understand?
Do uneven know about the analogy of a cat dead and alive at same time in quantum physics??

It doesn’t really depend on the observer, it depends on the method of observation that the observe has chosen. You are getting it by bits.

Now try to keep reading the article carefully to see how ridiculous all your statements have been.

Workch:
I am damn sure that Flying Spaghetti Monster created Yahweh and if you think because majority think otherwise then we have to also agree that the majority who thought that the earth is the center of the universe were right.

Once again let me not call u mumu.
NOTHING IS RIGHT!!!
How many times will I tell u that!

Just as saying definitively that you exist is not right. But preponderance of evidence (part of which is a large number of people believing it) allows us to assume you exist until proven otherwise!

FreeIgboho:
Once again let me not call u mumu.
NOTHING IS RIGHT!!!
How many times will I tell u that!

Just as saying definitively that you exist is not right. But preponderance of evidence (part of which is a large number of people believing it) allows us to assume you exist until proven otherwise!

Ok good, It means that the large number of people who believed geocentrism were right. We shouldn’t have changed our minds.

You will provide evidence for your god, nobody will do your job for you.

Workch:
Like I said, you have really done a great work trying to change my mind, now I don’t believe in evolution and I believe in god. You did this in a masterclass of not even providing a single evidence.

The god I choose to believe is the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Do you have a problem with that?

LOL.. Again with the jokes.

Lemme advise you. Approach the existence of God with an open mind. There are things that you simply don't understand.

Please I beg you try to find out things for yourself and don't jump to conclusions..

Investigate all religions.. Cry out to the invisible God of the universe (I know this sounds stupid to you but just give it a try)

Ask this so-called God to reveal Himself to you and He will. Seek Him and you will find Him.

Carry out deep research into the spiritual and I promise you even if you don't end up accepting any religion your beliefs will be challenged.

Hismasterpiece:
LOL.. Again with the jokes.

Lemme advise you. Approach the existence of God with an open mind. There are things that you simply don't understand.

Please I beg you try to find out things for yourself and don't jump to conclusions..

Investigate all religions.. Cry out to the invisible God of the universe (I know this sounds stupid to you but just give it a try)

Ask this so-called God to reveal Himself to you and He will. Seek Him and you will find Him.

Carry out deep research into the spiritual and I promise you even if you don't end up accepting any religion your beliefs will be challenged.

If I don’t understand I won’t put god there. I will wait until we find out.
Btw I just cried out to the Flying Spaghetti Monster and he answered me. It means he exist

Workch:
If I don’t understand I won’t put god there. I will wait until we find out.

That’s mental laziness bro

That's exactly what I'm telling you to do. Try to find out things for yourself.

I challenge you to dive into the world of the supernatural.. Your beliefs will be challenged greatly.

Workch:
Ok good, It means that the large number of people who believed geocentrism were right. We shouldn’t have changed our minds

Now I'll call u mumu! Did u read my post. We assumed they were right untill proven wrong.
Don't you think it conceivable that in the distant future it would be shown the geocentrists were indeed right!

Hismasterpiece:
That's exactly what I'm telling you to do. Try to find out things for yourself.

I challenge you to dive into the world of the supernatural.. Your beliefs will be challenged greatly.

You can’t dive into the world of something that doesn’t exist.

Don’t you get it

Hismasterpiece:
That's exactly what I'm telling you to do. Try to find out things for yourself.

I challenge you to dive into the world of the supernatural.. Your beliefs will be challenged greatly.

you should also dive into the world of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

I challenge you

FreeIgboho:
Now I'll call u mumu! Did u read my post. We assumed they were right untill proven wrong.
Don't you think it conceivable that in the distant future it would be shown the geocentrists were indeed right!

You guys a deviating from the objective of this post.

I simply asked you guys to give me logical reasons as to why I should be an atheist.

Now you guys are arguing about things I don't even understand.

FreeIgboho:
Now I'll call u mumu! Did u read my post. We assumed they were right untill proven wrong.
Don't you think it conceivable that in the distant future it would be shown the geocentrists were indeed right!

Geoccemtrism was proven and disproven mathematically.

No one has seen any prove for your god. It’s impossible to disprove what hasn’t been proven.
It doesn’t exist if it hasn’t been proven, it’s only in your imaginations.

Workch:
You can’t dive into the world of something that doesn’t exist.

Don’t you get it

Again. Don't just conclude. Research and find out the truth for yourself.

Religion is not preconceived.

Be curious about the universe and you'll be surprised what you find out.

Hismasterpiece:
You guys a deviating from the objective of this post.

I simply asked you guys to give me logical reasons as to why I should be an atheist.

Now you guys are arguing about things I don't even understand.

Exactly. That's how it's supposed to be. That's how intelligent people operate. That's how knowledge is enhanced. Nothing mandates that we stick to your narrow question. This thread may go into a thousand pages

Hismasterpiece:
Again. Don't just conclude. Research and find out the truth for yourself.

Religion is not preconceived.

Be curious about the universe and you'll be surprised what you find out.

There is nothing to be curious about there, it’s just some set of people making up stuffs.

Time and time again, things that has been ascribe to supernaturalism has been disproven and proven to be natural. Countless times and people still come up with those stories. It’s enough to question you guys.

Workch:
If you have witnessed the supernatural happen, why can’t you apply to win the bounties for anyone that can provide evidence for any paranormal activity?

It’s been there for ages and no one has been able to win any of them. I can share some of the links with you if you care, it would make you a multimillionaire in dollars.

Don’t you think you are just making them up in your head?

I no Sha Sabi argue....mek I dey my dey.
I de chop beans and plantain...come join me

Workch:
There is nothing to be curious about there, it’s just some set of people making up stuffs.

Time and time again, things that has been ascribe to supernaturalism has been disproven. Countless times and people still come up with those stories. It’s enough to disbelieve you guys

Things like what?

FreeIgboho:
Exactly. That's how it's supposed to be. That's how intelligent people operate. That's how knowledge is enhanced. Nothing mandates that we stick to your narrow question. This thread may go into a thousand pages

If you say so

Workch:
Geoccemtrism was proven and disproven mathematically.

No one has seen any prove for your god. It’s impossible to disprove what hasn’t been proven.
It doesn’t exist if it hasn’t been proven, it’s only in your imaginations.

Once again, mu--, you are in no position to prove or disprove anything. I'm still waiting for you to prove to me that you exist or that you don't exist

Hismasterpiece:
Things like what?

lightning, earthquakes, eclipses, pestilence/diseases , Adam and Eve creation story, sleep paralysis etc

FreeIgboho:
Once again, mu--, you are in no position to prove or disprove anything. I'm still waiting for you to prove to me that you exist or that you don't exist

I don’t exist, I agree.
But I exist in the name of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and through him Yahweh exist.

FreeIgboho:
Once again, mu--, you are in no position to prove or disprove anything. I'm still waiting for you to prove to me that you exist or that you don't exist

What do you mean by this? The fact that he is discussing with you on nairaland isn't they proof enough? Can someone that doesn't exist post on nairaland?

Your question isn't very smart (no offense).

Workch:
lightning, earthquakes, eclipses, pestilence/diseases , Adam and Eve creation story, sleep paralysis etc

Okay lemme question you.

Since I have made you disbelieve in evolution (lol)

How, then, do you explain human existence?

A001:
Trash

I understand, People in prison having lengthy years of imprisonment can never bear the sounds of the Freefolk!

It is a depression unto them!

Since the issue was about advantages of being a Lover of God, you had to hear this.

Hismasterpiece:
Okay lemme question you.

Since I have made you disbelieve in evolution (lol)

How, then, do you explain human existence?

We were created by the Flying Spaghetti Monster