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LordReed:
You are the one being ridiculous and childish, who can't distinguish between what is real and what is fiction. You watched a freaking movie and won't shut up about it because you think it's real. You sound like an unwashed infant from the village they took to the cinema who closes his eyes because he thinks the car in the movie is about to hit him. Grow up please and stop fooling yourself about the Matrix movie, it's only a movie.

I am an agnostic atheist, I don't believe in any gods, if you have any gods prove them, it's that simple. I don't care if your god had power in the past, I don't live in that past.

You never reached any conclusions but you somehow know that the universe was setup by a who and that there is a supernatural, are you not the one kidding yourself?

I simply asked if he had ever had a dream in a dream but he replied with something that is too ridiculous to be stated by me

FreeIgboho:
Of course. Who has never had a dream in a dream??!!

So,you went to sleep in the dream?

LordReed:
If you have any gods prove them, it's that simple. I

You keep robotically saying prove it when I've shown you that everything we know are approximations and preponderance of evidence.

FreeIgboho:
You keep robotically saying prove it when I've shown you that everything we know are approximations and preponderance of evidence.

If you are never sure of anything, how did you know what evidence is let alone the approximations of evidence?

HellVictorinho:
So,you went to sleep in the dream?

Meaning?
Stop making childish argument. You know what I'm saying is right

FreeIgboho:
Meaning?
Stop making childish argument. You know what I'm saying is right

Answer the question and stop claiming to be right


There's nothing special about claiming to be right

HellVictorinho:
Answer the question and stop claiming to be right


There's nothing special about claiming to be right

Your questions are childish. ANYTHING you can do in real life you can do in a dream and in a dream in a dream and in a dream in a dream in a dream...
Stop being childish

FreeIgboho:
You should really be concerned that the ancients knew better than you. What do u think led to: "I think, therefore I am"

LMAO! Which ancient? The ancients that thought the world was flat or the ones who thought sickness was caused by demons.

Your capacity to cogitate is what allows you to formulate a view of the world, it doesn't mean you should think a freaking movie is real.

FreeIgboho:
You keep robotically saying prove it when I've shown you that everything we know are approximations and preponderance of evidence.

And you keep robotically repeating that you have shown me something when all you've been robotically mentioning is a freaking movie and it's fictional protagonist. Is The Matrix the preponderance of evidence? Is Neo the god you are proving?

FreeIgboho:
Your questions are childish. ANYTHING you can do in real life you can do in a dream and in a dream in a dream and in a dream in a dream in a dream...
Stop being childish

Lies don't make you mature


You can't have a dream within a dream


You can't die within a dream

LordReed:
LMAO! Which ancient? The ancients that thought the world was flat or the ones who thought sickness was caused by demons.

Your capacity to cogitate is what allows you to formulate a view of the world, it doesn't mean you should think a freaking movie is real.

The movie happens to be a perfect metaphor for our likely situation.
Even an ancient man knew enough to know that the only thing he could possibly be sure of was his own existence because someone had to be doing the thinking: "I think, therefore I am"!
Bye bye

LordReed:
LMAO! Which ancient? The ancients that thought the world was flat or the ones who thought sickness was caused by demons.

Your capacity to cogitate is what allows you to formulate a view of the world, it doesn't mean you should think a freaking movie is real.

Ask him to tell you what he saw in the dream he had within a dream

HellVictorinho:
Lies don't make you mature


You can't have a dream within a dream


You can't die within a dream

You are a child. People die in their dreams all the time

FreeIgboho:
The movie happens to be a perfect metaphor for our likely situation.
Even an ancient man knew enough to know that the only thing he could possibly be sure of was his own existence because someone had to be doing the thinking: "I think, therefore I am"!
Bye bye

Movies are not new to the Sun

FreeIgboho:
You are a child. People die in their dreams all the time

You are not meant to speak for people



Speak for yourself


The adult who believes in a movie

HellVictorinho:
Ask him to tell you what he saw in the dream he had within a dream

You people lost the argument because u refuse to acknowledge things as they are.
Bye bye

QED

FreeIgboho:
You people lost the argument because u refuse to acknowledge things as they are.
Bye bye

QED

You declare yourself the winner after calling me a child for no reason that makes you special


You are talking about acknowledging things as they are but you are the same person that said it is impossible to determine things as they are


You are just confused

FreeIgboho:
The movie happens to be a perfect metaphor for our likely situation.
Even an ancient man knew enough to know that the only thing he could possibly be sure of was his own existence because someone had to be doing the thinking: "I think, therefore I am"!
Bye bye

How do you know it is perfect? Have you started flying like Neo?

HellVictorinho:
Ask him to tell you what he saw in the dream he had within a dream

He has nothing by a fictional tale, he can't show us anything in reality.

LordReed:
You are the one being ridiculous and childish, who can't distinguish between what is real and what is fiction. You watched a freaking movie and won't shut up about it because you think it's real. You sound like an unwashed infant from the village they took to the cinema who closes his eyes because he thinks the car in the movie is about to hit him. Grow up please and stop fooling yourself about the Matrix movie, it's only a movie.

Lmao. Get ready for more Matrix arguments for god. The next movie in the franchise is called Matrix: Resurrections, and it seems reincarnation will be part of the plot. There’s going to be an avalanche of bullshit then.

KnownUnknown:
Lmao. Get ready for more Matrix arguments for god. The next movie in the franchise is called Matrix: Resurrections, and it seems reincarnation will be part of the plot. There’s going to be an avalanche of bullshit then.

I can imagine.

HellVictorinho:
You declare yourself the winner after calling me a child for no reason that makes you special


You are talking about acknowledging things as they are but you are the same person that said it is impossible to determine things as they are


You are just confused

Really confused.

Hismasterpiece:
That's the thing. My belief in God is not based on nothing. It's based on facts.

Or maybe not. Certainly nothing that proves an afterlife, or a connection between believing and getting there. It’s not that hard anymore to find websites that respond to every claim of a contemporary historical record of the person who is the central character of the gospels. Nothing of them rise about a 50/50 chance of being true.

What is your basis for determining if a historical document is accurate or not? This is a really important question. Everything else hinges on this.

FreeIgboho:
No one knows for sure (like in everything), but there is a greater chance theists are right because there is a high probability that this is some sort of a simulation and whoever it is that set it up they refer to as "God".

I would say that given what we know about the Universe, the probability of an Intelligent Designer is close to absolute zero.

Also man has an inbuilt need to worship something.

Irrelevant. And not true. I have no need to worship something.

"They" is whoever set up this our reality. What they want more than anything else is for us never to suspect that things may not be as we perceive them.

Why do you assume it is a “who” and not a “what”?

But there are slip-ups in the system - when a dead person briefly appears (oops!), or a child has clear memory of his past life (oops!), etc

That’s just pure rubbish. Products of subjective mental processes.

Watch this and you will get an idea about how your brain actually works and how you think. Believing that you know how some God thinks and acts is just plain hubris.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyu7v7nWzfo

Near1:
I would say that given what we know about the Universe, the probability of an Intelligent Designer is close to absolute zero.


Irrelevant. And not true. I have no need to worship something.


Why do you assume it is a “who” and not a “what”?


That’s just pure rubbish. Products of subjective mental processes.

Watch this and you will get an idea about how your brain actually works and how you think. Believing that you know how some God thinks and acts is just plain hubris. HellVictorinho, LordReed, Hismasterpiece, KnownUnknown


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lyu7v7nWzf

You are a funny guy, you present a video that supports everything I'm saying, yet u r still arguing.
Below are things the guy said

NO REASON. ATHEISM IS NOT CORRECT.

FreeIgboho:
You are a funny guy, you present a video that supports everything I'm saying, yet u r still arguing.
Below are things the guy said

So are you. You watched a video in which the speaker categorically says there is no supernatural cause of consciousness and you claim it supports your view.

LordReed:
So are you. You watched a video in which the speaker categorically says there is no supernatural cause of consciousness and you claim it supports your view.

He never said that, but assuming he did, did you ever ask yourself this: how did he know?!

The relevant thing he said is that we make up "reality" - we don't know it's true nature. Common sense tells you that is true

FreeIgboho:
You are a funny guy, you present a video that supports everything I'm saying, yet u r still arguing.
Below are things the guy said

To hell with what the guy said and the guy himself!

LordReed:
So are you. You watched a video in which the speaker categorically says there is no supernatural cause of consciousness and you claim it supports your view.

The person who said the following doesn't think there is a supernatural??!! You ok sir?

FreeIgboho:
He never said that, but assuming he did, did you ever ask yourself this: how did he know?!

The relevant thing he said is that we make up "reality" - we don't know it's true nature. Common sense tells you that is true

Another post to be disposed


How did you know the nature of reality cannot be determined when you are never sure of anything?


That the nature of reality cannot be determined is either true/real or false/fake


You contradict yourself since you say you can't determine what is real(a statement towards reality) but you can determine what is true (a statement towards the truth)


LordReed

HellVictorinho:
To hell with what the guy said and the guy himself!

Lol. Told u you lost the argument because you refuse to acknowledge the only thing we are sure of - that we aren't sure the true nature of reality - and have no way of being sure!