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LordReed:
The kind that claims to know while claiming not to know. You are only wrong in the ones you choose, you can never be wrong if you don't choose to be, even if the facts are glaring.

You are the one saying that. I always said I may be wrong.

LordReed:
You didn't prod me to do any research, I knew you'd merely deflect to some other nonsense, just like you are doing now, if I asked you to look up the definition. The definition clearly encapsulates all you've been saying but instead of accepting, you want to act like you are in a world of your own, your solipsistic cage.

Of course I proded you, how can you be denying that. All solipsists claim to know one thing for certain. I don't

LordReed:
What did you say?

I said I don't know if supernatural exists of course. But that preponderance of evidence and experiences suggest so

LordReed:
LoL! The response to "YOU ARE WRONG" was "How do you know?" and now you are changing it to something else. LMAO! I think I am done with you.

You should be done. I told you u lost tge argument long ago.. The answer to "how do you know?" should be "because...". Not: "do this and that..." when you haven't established my existence!

Hismasterpiece:
First of all, God is not to blame for the way the world is right now.

He created a perfect world. In the beginning there was no sickness or death. There was no evil in the world.

But according to what scriptures teach, our ancestors Adam and Eve are responsible for how the world is today. They determined the course of this world. God gave them a choice. Life or death. They chose death and today we're all paying for it. They introduced evil into the world.

Remember the phrase, 'The sins of the father are paid for by the son'?. That's the phrase that best describes today's reality. We are paying for our parents' error.

As regards why God isn't doing anything this is the answer I'll give. According to what the Bible teaches, God has committed His Work on this earth to Christians. We are His chosen vessels through whom He brings healing, love, salvation, deliverance, shelter and all the good things that today's world lacks. He has entrusted Christians with His Power and we are to represent Him fully here on earth.

Given the number of Christians that are in the world today, if we were of the same caliber as the early Christians, today's world would be different. So the fault lies with us Christians and not with God. Because He has done all that needs to be done. It is now up to Christians to let Him move through us.

First of all no god has been established to exist talk less of blaming him. Can you layout how I can establish that your god exists?

LordReed:
First of all no god has be established to exist talk less of blaming him. Can you layout how I can establish that your god exists?

Can you lay out how I can establish that YOU exist?

Been nice debating with you. You are one the more erudite and knowledgeable monikers on Nairaland (I say moniker because I'm not sure u r actually a person )

FreeIgboho:
Can you lay out how I can establish that YOU exist?

Been nice debating with you. You are one the more erudite and knowledgeable monikers on Nairaland (I say moniker because I'm not sure u r actually a person )

What does exist mean?

LordReed:
What does exist mean?

When you are dreaming everyone you encounter is totally real to you but they don't exist. I have ABSOLUTELY NO WAY of proving I'm not dreaming.

FreeIgboho:
When you are dreaming everyone you encounter is totally real to you but they don't exist. I have ABSOLUTELY NO WAY of proving I'm not dreaming.

You have told me what it doesn't mean, now tell me what it means.

LordReed:
You have told me what it doesn't mean, now tell me what it means.

Having objective reality or being independent of any interaction.

FreeIgboho:
Having objective reality or being independent of any interaction.

Example?

FreeIgboho:
Of course I proded you, how can you be denying that. All solipsists claim to know one thing for certain. I don't

You claimed to know I am a figment of your imagination

LordReed:
Example?

Did he not claim to know that he may be wrong?


It was a lie when he said he never claimed to be certain of anything.



How did he even know that he may be wrong?



How is he certain of the example you want from him?

Is it not the same pattern of YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND or YOU JUST WANT IT THAY WAY or YOU DON'T WANT TO LEARN or YOU DON'T WANT THE TRUTH or any other means of wasting the time you have on Earth that OtemAtum,budatuum, Shadeyinka,Dtruthspeaker and other arrogant bastards repeat amidst the vain feeling of being special which only shows that this life is absurd and the world is in shambles



Note: the manner in which those bastards use words doesn't reflect the definitions of those words in any dictionary since they are all deceptive hypocrites.

HellVictorinho:
You claimed to know I am a figment of your imagination

I never said that. How can I say that? Why can't you be a real person?? I said you could very well be. Everything I say is predicated on: I MAY WRONG

LordReed:
Example?

In our reality everything is probabilistic so you can only talk of things that probably exist, like my thinking

FreeIgboho:
In our reality everything is probabilistic so you can only talk of things that probably exist, like my thinking

What is the probability that I am real?

LordReed:
What is the probability that I am real?

Very high. But there is also a possibility that you are a composite created by Seun to help the forum, or that you are a bot, or that u r a figment of my imagination, or that I'm dreaming, etc. Some scenarios are highly unlikely but cannot be ruled out.

FreeIgboho:
I never said that. How can I say that? Why can't you be a real person?? I said you could very well be. Everything I say is predicated on: I MAY WRONG

It's of no use


Denying Pattern

LordReed:
What is the probability that I am real?

He never defined 'everything in our reality'


He was never sure of anything being probabilistic


But you keep discussing these things


Why not find a way to end the pointless conversation?


Whether you answer me or not
That guy will never change my mind

FreeIgboho:
Very high. But there is also a possibility that you are a composite created by Seun to help the forum, or that you are a bot, or that u r a figment of my imagination, or that I'm dreaming, etc. Some scenarios are highly unlikely but cannot be ruled out.

Which probablity do you work with regards to the people you see everyday, do you act as though they are not real or do you act as though they were?

LordReed:
Which probablity do you work with regards to the people you see everyday, do you act as though they are not real or do you act as though they were?

The same way I act in my dreams. My brain tells me they are totally real and I act towards them accordingly; doesn't mean they are.

HellVictorinho:
He never defined 'everything in our reality'


He was never sure of anything being probabilistic


But you keep discussing these things


Why not find a way to end the pointless conversation?


Whether you answer me or not
That guy will never change my mind

Told you u lost the debate long ago

FreeIgboho:
Told you u lost the debate long ago

Keep repeating the same thing like a nobody!

FreeIgboho:
The same way I act in my dreams. My brain tells me they are totally real and I act towards them accordingly; doesn't mean they are.

So your brain cannot distinguish between people in your dreams and people in your waking life?

LordReed:
So your brain cannot distinguish between people in your dreams and people in your waking life?

I don't know what my brain can distinguish, all I can tell are my own experiences. Sometimes I actually wake up, wash up, hurriedly get ready for work, then wake up again, not knowing it was all a dream. You ever experienced such?

FreeIgboho:
I don't know what my brain can distinguish, all I can tell are my own experiences. Sometimes I actually wake up, wash up, hurriedly get ready for work, then wake up again, not knowing it was all a dream. You ever experienced such?

Nope, I can tell the difference between dream and waking life. As intriguing as my dreams can be they do not have the vivacity of waking life. No matter how vivid your imagination real life will beat it hands down so I don't know why you can't distinguish between the imaginations your brain is throwing up in dreams and what you see when awake. Do you think you may have a problem with your brain function?

LordReed:
Nope, I can tell the difference between dream and waking life. As intriguing as my dreams can be they do not have the vivacity of waking life. No matter how vivid your imagination real life will beat it hands down so I don't know why you can't distinguish between the imaginations your brain is throwing up in dreams and what you see when awake. Do you think you may have a problem with your brain function?

No, going by general consensus you'd seem the one with a problem. As you can see from the below, false awakenings are universal while frequent lucid dreams are indeed very rare and usually last few seconds or minute before you lose the lucidity and again think it's real life.

LordReed:
Nope, I can tell the difference between dream and waking life. As intriguing as my dreams can be they do not have the vivacity of waking life. No matter how vivid your imagination real life will beat it hands down so I don't know why you can't distinguish between the imaginations your brain is throwing up in dreams and what you see when awake. Do you think you may have a problem with your brain function?

According to studies, if you can tell you are dreaming, then you aren't totally dreaming - you are in-between

FreeIgboho:
No, going by general consensus you'd seem the one with a problem. As you can see from the below, false awakenings are universal while frequent lucid dreams are indeed very rare and usually last few seconds or minute before you lose the lucidity and again think it's real life.

I said I know the difference between dream and waking, false awakenings are still dreams are they not? How can it be false if you can't tell the difference between it and real life? It is false because you should be able to tell the difference, if you can't then may be you have a problem.

FreeIgboho:
According to studies, if you can tell you are dreaming, then you aren't totally dreaming - you are in-between

What studies?

FreeIgboho:
No, going by general consensus you'd seem the one with a problem. As you can see from the below, false awakenings are universal while frequent lucid dreams are indeed very rare and usually last few seconds or minute before you lose the lucidity and again think it's real life.

Just checked on the cause of false awakenings and turns out stress or anxiety or sleep disorders like insomnia could be the reason. Are you constantly experiencing any of these?

LordReed:
I said I know the difference between dream and waking, false awakenings are still dreams are they not? How can it be false if you can't tell the difference between it and real life? It is false because you should be able to tell the difference, if you can't then may be you have a problem.

Well some people have multiple false awakenings and nothing has so far worked to let them know they haven't woken up for real - maybe you should go and teach them how you always know you are dreaming since ONLY you seem to have this ability