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Emusan:
You'll keep twisting your mouth.
He quoted NLT you said, it's wrong but when I showed you how your favorite version put it, you're changing tune.

You even implicate yourself by saying "Jesus take the form of servant and become EXACTLY like humans."

Which you know what that verse is saying is Jesus has the very nature that makes God God.

Sin & evil are not NATURE stop lying.

If Sin & evil are NATURE it means Devil is now human or the people who will inherit earth aren't complete in their nature since sin and evil won't be found in them.

" God sent his Son in the form of sinful flesh "
Romans 8:3

This is the form of servant talked about . Yet Jesus didn't take the core sin associated with that nature , ONLY the appearance.

The Bible said he becomes a sharer of flesh and blood.

The logic applies to Form of God. This doesn't refer in this context to mean he is everything like God. But rather exist in his appearance


Once again, the text is all about Appearance

Emusan:
because Christ has already laid aside that authority Phil 2:6 so in His incarnation He simply rely on His Father.

Clearly this means he never had any real authority until he came to earth. Simple Daniel 7:14.

He created you and the whole universe without taking permission from anyone.

It really shows. As nobody exist in his image. You really have sense.

Can you show me where Jesus sees the Father PERFORMING THE ACT OF CREATION that makes Jesus does the same?
It depends on the context.

Like I explain earlier the word " see" is a continuation of the statement " not of his own accord " . It simply means Jesus rely on the Fathers power to do anything. This is why creation was never said to be Jesus sons and daughters. And neither is anyone made in his image

KNOWMORE56:
"So what are the THINGS Jesus sees the Father doing that Jesus can do also?"

Which of them will answer... lol

They always avoid that question.

I have many questions for them but they don't answer questions... except copying their organization answers and paste here.

This issue of worship that maxInDHouse and his fellow worshipper of watch Tower, barristter07, are talking about is the Word...

By the way, I have similar question about this "Jesus is created"

They claim it is Jesus speaking in Proverbs 8.

Since He is the only Being created by the Father, and the speaker in Proverbs 8 says:

Proverbs 8:26 "KJV: While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
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KJV: When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
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KJV: When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
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KJV: When he gave to the sea his decree, [b/] that the waters should not pass his commandment: [b] when he appointed the foundations of the earth:

Who is this He, is it Jesus speaking of the Father or another being speaking of Jesus, "the creator of all other things"?

cc: Janosky, maxInDHouse, canticles, captivator,barristter07,haddeylium, peacefulworld01,tamyfire, fengchui...

I have used this same Proverb 8 to proof that YAHWEH does The creation by HIMSELF has Isaiah 44:24 says "NOG
Yahweh reclaimed you. He formed you in the womb. This is what Yahweh says: I, Yahweh, made everything. I stretched out the heavens by myself. I spread out the earth all alone."

To claim another being was the one who did it is to call this glorious verse fraud which means the scripture is false.

Emusan:
They always avoid that question.



I have used this same Proverb 8 to proof that YAHWEH does The creation by HIMSELF has Isaiah 44:24 says "NOG
Yahweh reclaimed you. He formed you in the womb. This is what Yahweh says: I, Yahweh, made everything. I stretched out the heavens by myself. I spread out the earth all alone."

To claim another being was the one who did it is to call this glorious verse fraud which means the scripture is false.

Ehud is Isreals saviour

Jehovah is Isreals saviour

Which is wrong or correct in this two statement ?

Barristter07:
" God sent his Son in the form of sinful flesh "
Romans 8:3

This is the form of servant talked about . Yet Jesus didn't take the core sin associated with that nature , ONLY the appearance.

Sin and Evil don't make us human.

You already said, Jesus became EXACTLY HUMAN which is what that verse was all about.

Jesus is EXACTLY GOD for having God's nature.

The Bible said he becomes a sharer of flesh and blood.

That's OUR NATURE

The logic applies to Form of God. This doesn't refer in this context to mean he is everything like God. But rather exist in his appearance

He is EVERYTHING OF GOD. CEV is another confirmed version

Once again, the text is all about Appearance

Not appearance stop the lies if not Jesus won't laid that ASIDE.

Barristter07:
Clearly this means he never had any real authority until he came to earth. Simple Daniel 7:14.

Daniel is about His earthly mission, it's a PROPHECY

It really shows. As nobody exist in his image. You really have sense.

Another diversion!

Like I explain earlier the word " see" is a continuation of the statement " not of his own accord " . It simply means Jesus rely on the Fathers power to do anything. This is why creation was never said to be Jesus sons and daughters. And neither is anyone made in his image

He relied on His Father power after setting aside His NATURE of God. I've said that earlier.

Human are made in the image of God.

Jesus is that VERY IMAGE OF GOD.

Emusan:
Sin and Evil don't make us human.

You already said, Jesus became EXACTLY HUMAN which is what that verse was all about.

Jesus is EXACTLY GOD for having God's nature.

That's OUR NATURE

He is EVERYTHING OF GOD. CEV is another confirmed version

Not appearance stop the lies if not Jesus won't laid that ASIDE.

It's pure appearance. Here is a text that confirms it.

Hebrews 2:14 partake flesh and blood

Verse 17 " For this reason He had to be made like His brothers in every way, "

In every way, His brothers are sinners , Was he made that way too ?

Barristter07:
[s]Ehud is Isreals saviour

Jehovah is Isreals saviour

Which is wrong or correct in this two statement ?[/s]

"NOG: Yahweh reclaimed you. He formed you in the womb. This is what Yahweh says: I, Yahweh, made everything. I stretched out the heavens by myself. I spread out the earth all alone."

Is Jehovah lying that HE stretched out heavens BY MYSELF and spread out the earth ALL ALONE?

Show us where Ehud PERSONALLY claim to be ISREAL saviour.

Emusan:

Daniel is about His earthly mission, it's a PROPHECY

Another diversion!

He relied on His Father power after setting aside His NATURE of God. I've said that earlier.

Human are made in the image of God.

Jesus is that VERY IMAGE OF GOD.

That shows he doesn't have any authority until the prophecy is fulfilled. He lack any authority before coming to earth.


Thank you for that admission

Emusan:
"NOG: Yahweh reclaimed you. He formed you in the womb. This is what Yahweh says: I, Yahweh, made everything. I stretched out the heavens by myself. I spread out the earth all alone."

Is Jehovah lying that HE stretched out heavens BY MYSELF and spread out the earth ALL ALONE?

Show us where Ehud PERSONALLY claim to be ISREAL saviour.

Jehovah could claim he is Isreals saviour despite Ehud does the Job because Ehud cannot be successful without his power. Jehovah's claim to stretch the heavens by himself follow the same, Without his powerful spirit no one can stretch the heavens .

Barristter07:
It's pure appearance. Here is a text that confirms it.

Hebrews 2:14 partake flesh and blood

Verse 17 " For this reason He had to be made like His brothers in every way, "

In every way, His brothers are sinners , Was he made that way too ?

It's not appearance which is the reason you couldn't say anything about CEV translation

Jesus was made in every way like his BROTHERS which is what make us HUMAN even thou it's our nature that paves way for sin and evil.

So Jesus is GOD according to Phil 2:6 for having the very nature that makes God God.

Sin and evil is what human acquired in their lifetime which is why Jesus couldn't sin nor do evil.

I've told you to stop lying.

Barristter07:
That shows he doesn't have any authority until the prophecy is fulfilled. He lack any authority before coming to earth.


Thank you for that admission

See the ignorance I'm talking about.

Daniel 7 is a prophecy of what the Messiah Will do and accomplished.

Thanks for displaying your ignorance.

Barristter07:
Jehovah could claim he is Isreals saviour despite Ehud does the Job because Ehud cannot be successful without his power. Jehovah's claim to stretch the heavens by himself follow the same, Without his powerful spirit no one can stretch the heavens .

See lies!

When you're done battling with that verse lemme know

Emusan:
It's not appearance which is the reason you couldn't say anything about CEV translation



Jesus was made in every way like his BROTHERS which is what make us HUMAN even thou it's our nature that paves way for sin and evil.

So Jesus is GOD according to Phil 2:6 for having the very nature that makes God God.

Sin and evil is what human acquired in their lifetime which is why Jesus couldn't sin nor do evil.

I've told you to stop lying.

You are confirming it again. If he was made like his brother's in their very nature, he would be a sinner like all descendants of Adam. This shows he only become like them in appearance . Once again, His brothers are NOT perfect, they are sinners. He wasn't made like them in that very nature. Only their appearance

So what are the THINGS Jesus sees the Father doing that Jesus can do also?"....

Wahala

I posted this earlier on this same thread

Matthew 4: 10 Then Jesus said to him: “Go away, Satan! For it is written: ‘It is Jehovah* your God you must worship,+ and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’”

Revelation 22:3 And there will no longer be any curse. But the throne of God and of the Lamb+ will be in the city, and his slaves will offer him sacred service


I asked, Jesus dey receive sacred service?

Emusan:
See lies!

When you're done battling with that verse lemme know

No rebuttal ? You can only have a point if you say Ehud being a savior is a lie because Jehovah has claimed that. Why could Jehovah claim Ehuds victory as His own ? He owns the power behind it.

It's like you're not getting it but let me simplify it for you!

I am not worshiping Jesus, i am worshiping the God who sent Jesus, Jesus is only teaching me how to worship the same God he himself worships! John 20:17

Do you grasp it now?

johnw47:
false jw mad max
of course you false jw's don't worship the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ
who came down from heaven, was tortured and died a horiffic death, so that
man who He created might be saved from their sins for eternity
yes, the King of king and Lord of lords definately deserves to be worshipped.
if worship belongs to the Father, then it belongs to Jesus:
Joh 16:15 All things that the Father hath are mine:
also, Jesus didn't say: his God and my God Jesus said to mary: my God, and your God

but you false jw's twist much, especially the bible:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

achorladey:
So what are the THINGS Jesus sees the Father doing that Jesus can do also?"....

Wahala

I posted this earlier on this same thread

Matthew 4: 10 Then Jesus said to him: “Go away, Satan! For it is written: ‘It is Jehovah* your God you must worship,+ and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’”

Revelation 22:3 And there will no longer be any curse. But the throne of God and of the Lamb+ will be in the city, and his slaves will offer him sacred service


I asked, Jesus dey receive sacred service?

I thought " Him " is singular person ?

Barristter07:
You are confirming it again. If he was made like his brother's in their very nature, he would be a sinner like all descendants of Adam. This shows he only become like them in appearance . Once again, His brothers are NOT perfect, they are sinners. He wasn't made like them in that very nature. Only their appearance

Jesus was made PURE HUMAN that's why He had HUMAN nature but The Holy Spirit in Him didn't allow sin and evil to tainted that NATURE.

So Jesus is GOD according to Phil 2:6

He's still dodging from CEV translation

Barristter07:
No rebuttal ? You can only have a point if you say Ehud being a savior is a lie because Jehovah has claimed that. Why could Jehovah claim Ehuds victory as His own ? He owns the power behind it.

Shows me where Ehud claimed to be ISREAL PERSONAL SAVIOR is my first question, which you close your blind eyes to.

Emusan:

Jesus was made PURE HUMAN that's why He had HUMAN nature but The Holy Spirit in Him didn't allow sin and evil to tainted that NATURE.

So Jesus is GOD according to Phil 2:6

He's still dodging from CEV translation

So the verse is wrong, he is made Different from his brother's whom inherit sin ?

Barristter07:
I thought " Him " is singular person ?

Me I thought HIM is plural?

Emusan:
Shows me where Ehud claimed to be ISREAL PERSONAL SAVIOR is my first question, which you close your blind eyes to.

The Bible ascribe him that title. And the Bible is correct. Show me where Jesus claimed to be the Creator either ?

achorladey:
Me I thought HIM is plural?

Good you see your mistake.

Barristter07:
So the verse is wrong, he is made Different from his brother's whom inherit sin ?

If after my explanation you couldn't grab that point it's not my fault blame your wacked brain.

Barristter07:
Good you see your mistake.

Point it out?

Barristter07:
The Bible ascribe him that title. And the Bible is correct. Show me where Jesus claimed to be the Creator either ?

Where is the verse?

achorladey:
Point it out?

Text said God and the Lamb ( two persons ) . Then said offer him ... Should that not tell a right thinking person that offer him is reffering to one person and not two ?

Barristter07:
" For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him ." John 17:2

Dey use sense . He can't until he was given authority to give life

This Guy nah Dundee

What u quoted and what I quoted do they even correlate... You No Get Brain!!!!

For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it.

To whoever he is pleased to give it to. Read it!!!!... Barrister without Sense.

MaxInDHouse:
It's like you're not getting it but let me simplify it for you!

I am not worshiping Jesus, i am worshiping the God who sent Jesus, Jesus is only teaching me how to worship the same God he himself worships! John 20:17

Do you grasp it now?

Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:



oh duh confused false jw mad max

i certinally do get it, and i will tell you again:

johnw47: false jw mad max

of course you false jw's don't worship the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ
who came down from heaven, was tortured and died a horiffic death, so that
man who He created might be saved from their sins for eternity

yes, the King of king and Lord of lords definately deserves to be worshipped.


if worship belongs to the Father, then it belongs to Jesus:

Joh 16:15 All things that the Father hath are mine:


also, Jesus didn't say: his God and my God
Jesus said to mary: my God, and your God

but you false jw's twist much, especially the bible:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Barristter07:
Text said God and the Lamb ( two persons ) . Then said offer him ... Should that not tell a right thinking person that offer him is reffering to one person and not two ?

So which one is the text talking about?

Barristter07:
Text said God and the Lamb ( two persons ) . Then said offer him ... Should that not tell a right thinking person that offer him is reffering to one person and not two ?

That's why you could have just answer the question. Instead of disturbing yourself by going into singular or plural palaver.

Jesus dey receive sacred service?