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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 9:07pm On Sep 04, 2021
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:36pm On Sep 04, 2021
TheLequte:


Ball fell into his path and he hit it in. Still has that lackadaisical attitude tho.
Will that attitude ever change?

I'd like to see a front 3 of Martial - Benzema - Mbappe...

Greizmann is off form...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by taiocol: 11:05pm On Sep 04, 2021
patrickmuf:
Will that attitude ever change?

I'd like to see a front 3 of Martial - Benzema - Mbappe...

Greizmann is off form...
Martial is on form
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:17pm On Sep 04, 2021
taiocol:

Martial is on form
Not yet...He is getting sharper but then, he still has some way to go to reach the heights we have come to expect from him...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 12:26am On Sep 05, 2021
patrickmuf:
Not yet...He is getting sharper but then, he still has some way to go to reach the heights we have come to expect from him...
There is a height we have come to expect?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheLequte: 2:27am On Sep 05, 2021
patrickmuf:
Will that attitude ever change?

I'd like to see a front 3 of Martial - Benzema - Mbappe...

Greizmann is off form...


You can see the energy Benzema brought into the game immediately he came on. And he’s about a decade older than Ayinde M.

That team lacked some regular starters. Varane, Kante, Mbappe, etc. Their group has too many draws - 8 out of 11 I think. France still favorite to go through though they’ll fall behind Finland if they win their 2 outstanding matches.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by obainojazz(m): 5:10am On Sep 05, 2021
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 5:29am On Sep 05, 2021
Unpopular opinion but if i am Ole,I will prepare James Garner to take over the DM position and trust him with it . Mount, James, Saka, Smith-Rowe, James Justin of Leicester all these players came up from loan and bagged important team roles in their teams. And the lad is 20 thats not much of a young age if you ask me.

Afrodoc1
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:51am On Sep 05, 2021
CapitalCee:
Unpopular opinion but if i am Ole,I will prepare James Garner to take over the DM position and trust him with it . Mount, James, Saka, Smith-Rowe, James Justin of Leicester all these players came up from loan and bagged important team roles in their teams. And the lad is 20 thats not much of a young age if you ask me.

Afrodoc1

None of the ones you mentioned is a DM. That position requires lots of nous and experience and not just talent or potential.

Garner had a poor 1st half of 2020-2021 season on loan and a good 2nd half. Let’s see what he does this season on loan. The only thing is I would have preferred him going on loan in the EPL.

Looking at our senior options at DM if we intend to move to a single DM 4-3-3 then the interim fix sadly has to be McTom. He is not a DM but at least he has the legs that Matic does not have and the size and physicality that Fred does not have.

We can then address the DM question in January or at the end of the season.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 6:07am On Sep 05, 2021
afrodoc2:


None of the ones you mentioned is a DM. That position requires lots of nous and experience and not just talent or potential.

Garner had a poor 1st half of 2020-2021 season on loan and a good 2nd half. Let’s see what he does this season on loan. The only thing is I would have preferred him going on loan in the EPL.

Looking at our senior options at DM if we intend to move to a single DM 4-3-3 then the interim fix sadly has to be McTom. He is not a DM but at least he has the legs that Matic does not have and the size and physicality that Fred does not have.

We can then address the DM question in January or at the end of the season.

I feel you.

We have to live with McFred this season.

But by next season, we probably would have lost the EPL, Ronaldo would be a year older at 37, martial would still be ice cold and OGS would not have learnt anything.

We watch.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:41am On Sep 05, 2021
afrodoc2:


None of the ones you mentioned is a DM. That position requires lots of nous and experience and not just talent or potential.

Garner had a poor 1st half of 2020-2021 season on loan and a good 2nd half. Let’s see what he does this season on loan. The only thing is I would have preferred him going on loan in the EPL.

Looking at our senior options at DM if we intend to move to a single DM 4-3-3 then the interim fix sadly has to be McTom. He is not a DM but at least he has the legs that Matic does not have and the size and physicality that Fred does not have.

We can then address the DM question in January or at the end of the season.

I was thinking Garner will get an EPL loan this season to see his game, I watched Declan Rice cement a DM place in west ham in 18/19 season, he was 19 .That our DM position needs filling and quick, our last 2 games was an eyesore, we may drop vital points. Ronaldo might not accept that kind of performance going forward.

Considering our attacking options, it has to be a single DM and if Bruno will have to drop deep to accommodate the attacking options, we actually need a very disciplined player in the DM position because Bruno will always have the urge to push forward.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 6:50am On Sep 05, 2021
codedguy1:


I feel you.

We have to live with McFred this season.

But by next season, we probably would have lost the EPL, Ronaldo would be a year older at 37, martial would still be ice cold and OGS would not have learnt anything.

We watch.

Ronaldo will not accept McFred, he has started demanding for the EPL title. Ole will be forced to bench Fred, Ronaldo will not tolerate any nonsense from Ole

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:07am On Sep 05, 2021
codedguy1:


I feel you.

We have to live with McFred this season.

But by next season, we probably would have lost the EPL, Ronaldo would be a year older at 37, martial would still be ice cold and OGS would not have learnt anything.


We watch.

On this subject i have passed the stage of frustration to the stage of equanimity. By not getting a quality DM they are about to potentially waste 1 year which may or may not be the last productive year of CR7's career. We are always delaying things. By the time they get a DM Ronaldo might be 37-38 and the opportunity gone.

People that don't understand are turning this into a debate on whether Amaka is a good manager or not. It is actually the fact that Amaka is not good that makes getting a DM so important. What the elite managers can get away with (in terms of squad deficiency) he can't get away with.
He needs all the help possible to win titles because he is a limited manager but the lack of a DM should not serve as an excuse for his fan boys if we don't win those titles. After all the hole in the DM position has been magnified mainly because our manager appears incapable of finding a tactical solution.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:14am On Sep 05, 2021
CapitalCee:


I was thinking Garner will get an EPL loan this season to see his game, I watched Declan Rice cement a DM place in west ham in 18/19 season, he was 19 .That our DM position needs filling and quick, our last 2 games was an eyesore, we may drop vital points. Ronaldo might not accept that kind of performance going forward.

Considering our attacking options, it has to be a single DM and if Bruno will have to drop deep to accommodate the attacking options, we actually need a very disciplined player in the DM position because Bruno will always have the urge to push forward.


Cementing a DM position at West Ham and at Man Utd are 2 different things. West Ham can lose 2 straight games 4-0 and the heavens won't fall.
DM and CB are the 2 outfield positions that require the highest levels of understanding, reading of the game, focus, consistency.

If we switch to 4-3-3 with single DM then Bruno has to work extra hard to keep his place in the team. The others are more natural CMs than him and i would take Pogba over Bruno in CM.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:21am On Sep 05, 2021
melodyogonna:

There is a height we have come to expect?
Why were most folks disappointed in him last season? Does it not imply that there's more to his game which we have seen even in the United colors?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:33am On Sep 05, 2021
afrodoc2:


Cementing a DM position at West Ham and at Man Utd are 2 different things. West Ham can lose 2 straight games 4-0 and the heavens won't fall.
DM and CB are the 2 outfield positions that require the highest levels of understanding, reading of the game, focus, consistency.

If we switch to 4-3-3 with single DM then Bruno has to work extra hard to keep his place in the team. The others are more natural CMs than him and i would take Pogba over Bruno in CM.

That DM we didnt asdress this summer might end up haunting us, I just pray one of Fred/Mctominay just pick form this season

Bruno mustn't be a CM in a 4-3-3 with a single DM. Except we will play with 4 attackers, or 2 CMs. Bruno is the AM with a solid DM and CM, Bruno is the only player to slot into that AM like Muller. A big team like united need an attacking Midfielder that is always among the goals, eg Paul Scholes yes Ronaldo will make us more dangerous but Bruno scored 28 goals last season stifling that is not the best
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:37am On Sep 05, 2021
Garner should be ready to deputize for whoever we will as DM. He looked very good in his return to Nottingham Forest against Derby...He is already a better passed than Fred and McTom, he just needs more experience which he is getting ATM.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:41am On Sep 05, 2021
CapitalCee:


That DM we didnt asdress this summer might end up haunting us, I just pray one of Fred/Mctominay just pick form this season

Bruno mustn't be a CM in a 4-3-3 with a single DM. Except we will play with 4 attackers, or 2 CMs. Bruno is the AM with a solid DM and CM, Bruno is the only player to slot into that AM like Muller. A big team like united need an attacking Midfielder that is always among the goals, eg Paul Scholes yes Ronaldo will make us more dangerous but Bruno scored 28 goals last season stifling that is not the best
Without a solid DM, we will need Bruno and Pogba playing more like CMs to help us retain possession and maintain a good shape in midfield...Bruno scoring so many goals is down to our forwards no being prolific. With Ronaldo, I don't expect Bruno to continue domi acting the goal scorers chart for the club, he has to take up a more withdrawn role and allow the forwards do their thing...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Havertz10: 7:48am On Sep 05, 2021
patrickmuf:
Still, he'll outscore Havertz...
havertz will have more premier league G/A than Ronaldo this season, we will resume this discussion may lipsrsealed

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:01am On Sep 05, 2021
patrickmuf:
Without a solid DM, we will need Bruno and Pogba playing more like CMs to help us retain possession and maintain a good shape in midfield...Bruno scoring so many goals is down to our forwards no being prolific. With Ronaldo, I don't expect Bruno to continue domi acting the goal scorers chart for the club, he has to take up a more withdrawn role and allow the forwards do their thing...

We are saying the same thing, Bruno needs to take more withdrawn position for now, thats the reason why we need a solid DM to allow him freedom to join the attack occasionally especially against lower opposition
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BlueAngel444: 8:15am On Sep 05, 2021
afrodoc2:


None of the ones you mentioned is a DM. That position requires lots of nous and experience and not just talent or potential.

Garner had a poor 1st half of 2020-2021 season on loan and a good 2nd half. Let’s see what he does this season on loan. The only thing is I would have preferred him going on loan in the EPL.

Looking at our senior options at DM if we intend to move to a single DM 4-3-3 then the interim fix sadly has to be McTom. He is not a DM but at least he has the legs that Matic does not have and the size and physicality that Fred does not have.

We can then address the DM question in January or at the end of the season.
Rice became England's top DM at what age

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BlueAngel444: 8:16am On Sep 05, 2021
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 9:01am On Sep 05, 2021
CapitalCee:


I was thinking Garner will get an EPL loan this season to see his game, I watched Declan Rice cement a DM place in west ham in 18/19 season, he was 19 .That our DM position needs filling and quick, our last 2 games was an eyesore, we may drop vital points. Ronaldo might not accept that kind of performance going forward.

Considering our attacking options, it has to be a single DM and if Bruno will have to drop deep to accommodate the attacking options, we actually need a very disciplined player in the DM position because Bruno will always have the urge to push forward.

Sorry bro, but I couldn't help it, I couldn't find an ole blame in this your post, and I really enjoyed reading it Sha. grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BARAJ92(m): 9:15am On Sep 05, 2021
glimpse33:
This is our Strongest Squad..

70mins, Bring in Greenwood to Complete the Job
Clap For yourself, which recent Champions league club use just a single DM without good CM. Bruno and Pogba are more of forward players.
Madrid won with midfield trio of Kroos, Casemiro and Modric who all contribute defensively same with chelshit, even Bayern had hard working Leon Goretzka, Thiago and Muller.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BARAJ92(m): 9:27am On Sep 05, 2021
patrickmuf:
I am looking at the quality of forwards we have...Ronaldo, Greenwood, Cavani and Rashford make a lot of runs and are quite mobile meaning Bruno will not be needed very close to the opponent box rather a player who can spot a pass and execute it from midfield and that's where Pogba comes in.

I just can't see Pogba and Bruno playing together with either of McFred as we will be left exposed in that DM position that's why I rather have McFred against top teams.

Against weaker teams, Pogba and Bruno with McTom or Fred at the base should do...

In the meantime, it will be interesting to see how Bruno adjust to the presence of Ronaldo in the team.
You Sabi ball, in the last European nations cup, Italy and England prioritize defence over attack.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BARAJ92(m): 9:32am On Sep 05, 2021
CapitalCee:


That DM we didnt asdress this summer might end up haunting us, I just pray one of Fred/Mctominay just pick form this season

Bruno mustn't be a CM in a 4-3-3 with a single DM. Except we will play with 4 attackers, or 2 CMs. Bruno is the AM with a solid DM and CM, Bruno is the only player to slot into that AM like Muller. A big team like united need an attacking Midfielder that is always among the goals, eg Paul Scholes yes Ronaldo will make us more dangerous but Bruno scored 28 goals last season stifling that is not the best
Paul scholars assist a lot in the defensive work
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 10:08am On Sep 05, 2021
patrickmuf:
Why were most folks disappointed in him last season? Does it not imply that there's more to his game which we have seen even in the United colors?

Folks here have been disappointed for many seasons. We know he can offer more but he rarely seem to push himself hard enough. He is too inconsistent to have set any height we have come to expect, but it's always disappointing to see his season end poorly because we know (or think) he can offer much more
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 11:26am On Sep 05, 2021
CapitalCee:


We are saying the same thing, Bruno needs to take more withdrawn position for now, thats the reason why we need a solid DM to allow him freedom to join the attack occasionally especially against lower opposition

I think thats a bigger risk than moving Pogba into the double pivot. I think

CR
Sancho Bruno. Greenwood
Pogba McTom.


Is our best option for most games for now.

I would not go 433 with the current squad as we don't have the personnel.
I would not like to risk Bruno's carelessness in possession in the middle of the park as I think you'll remove all his strengths as Portugal seem to be finding out.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheLequte: 11:35am On Sep 05, 2021
With the forthcoming run of fixtures, VDB should get some minutes.

We should be maximizing our squad depth

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adisaaowala: 11:35am On Sep 05, 2021
CapitalCee:


That DM we didnt asdress this summer might end up haunting us, I just pray one of Fred/Mctominay just pick form this season

Bruno mustn't be a CM in a 4-3-3 with a single DM. Except we will play with 4 attackers, or 2 CMs. Bruno is the AM with a solid DM and CM, Bruno is the only player to slot into that AM like Muller. A big team like united need an attacking Midfielder that is always among the goals, eg Paul Scholes yes Ronaldo will make us more dangerous but Bruno scored 28 goals last season stifling that is not the best

Paul Scholes was a more of a CM in his elite years - baba don drop from AM tey tey

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:36am On Sep 05, 2021
melodyogonna:

Folks here have been disappointed for many seasons. We know he can offer more but he rarely seem to push himself hard enough. He is too inconsistent to have set any height we have come to expect, but it's always disappointing to see his season end poorly because we know (or think) he can offer much more

Martial was unfortunate to play under Mourinho at such a crucial stage in his development as an attacker, coupled with the other off-the-pitch issues he had that period.

In hindsight, having to deal with divorce at age 20, amongst having the No9 issue with Mou, and the barrage of criticism coupled with a later bumper increase in wages have all likely contributed to what we see now. Trauma changes people, some positive, some negative.

There was a time seeing Martial warm up to come on to the pitch would generate a lot of celebration amongst ManUtd fans. He literally brought life to our attack as a 19yr old. That was what created Martial FC.

This is why Greenwood’s England scandal had to be managed well, because if not done well, such delicate situation could completely turn his career in another direction. Southgate mentioned he wasn’t called up during this international break so he can focus on his football development and not get thrown out in the open like before, despite his awesome performance last month.

Dele Alli also had similar issues with Mou, but he’s already 25, so I presume he handled it better than a 20yr old Ayinde would.

Olé has tried to ‘resurrect’ that 19yr old Martial we fell in love with after his debut goal against Liverpool, but it’s not just working. Even went ahead to give him back the No9 Jersey, still nothing. ‘On’ today, ‘Off’ tomorrow, too inconsistent. Our Thierry Henry is gone.

There’s not much anyone can do at this point, other than hope, because if Haaland arrives at United next season, that No9 jersey will be given to him, and Martial possibly sold if his performance doesn’t improve.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 11:46am On Sep 05, 2021
adisaaowala:


Paul Scholes was a more of a CM in his elite years - baba don drop from AM tey tey

Brino need to emulate him, but Scholes is far superior on the ball. Bruno losses the ball a lot even in dangerous positions

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