DubaiLandLord:


When did the Jews migrated from Israel to Igbo land?

Bring facts not folk tales. And there is no solid fact or proof that points Ndigbo to the direction of Jews (only very very few cultural similarity).
Dont bring your Bible, kids lullabies and other tools of folktales to engage me.
This is not a kids play

bobowaja:

One was even crying

Nah that one even make me laugh pass

BKayy:

They are no longer Igbo. Unlike Ijaw, Bini and Yoruba that make their bad intentions about Ndigbo known on time, these half and half people seek to totally destroy and reduce Ndigbo to shreds from the inside.
I know them. I know their ways and tricks.

I said it on one thread like that, that the guy is not Igbo but an agent.

We will continue to expose ijaw lies

This video is opobo kingdom please watch till the end


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q22f9HXmw7Y

kmcutez:


Does it mean there were no Itshekiri in Warri during that period? When did they migrate there?

There was itsekiri in warri but they were not alone there. And their numbers were very few at that time.

Pls can you quote the source of that screenshot? Or u just saw it online and started spreading as facts?

DubaiLandLord:
Nah that one even make me laugh pass

Me too. I made this thread cos of the overwhelming stvpidity on that thread.

bobowaja:

There was itsekiri in warri but they were not alone there. And their numbers were very few at that time.

Pls can you quote the source of that screenshot? Or u just saw it online and started spreading as facts?

Warri was a mixed town with home to different indigenes, hence why they just wrote Warri. Go use google. Don’t be lazy.

BKayy:

Bring facts not folk tales. And there is no fact or proof that points Ndigbo to the direction of Jews.
Dont bring your Bible, kids lullabies and other tools of folktales to engage me.
This is not a kids play

But Igbos do claim to be Jews

Is an insult for me to be arguing with you. Una wey b say, some of Una people still dey waka up and down without clothes on and cannibalising each other in the 20th and 19th century

DubaiLandLord:
But Igbos do claim to be Jews

Is an insult for me to be arguing with you. Una wey b say, some of Una people still dey waka up and down without clothes on and cannibalising each other in the 20th and 19th century

There was camera in 20th century. So prove it like this picture of Yoruba savages below (early 20th and late 20th when others have started travelling to Europe respectively)

bobowaja:

Me too. I made this thread cos of the overwhelming stvpidity on that thread.

Then prove your confusion with facts from the people that met the places as independent towns not Nigerian news site of yesterday.
Quote or share one of the British or Portuguese captains narrative about the place or any other work pre 1967 Biafran war.
As for the idiocy of your assertion "Ndigbo moving into Bonny and Opubo brought about the Igbo Language and Customs". Need I remind you that those two places are Islands and Ndigbo are not amphibians? Opobo was actually linked to the mainland few weeks ago.

bobowaja:
The issue of opobo and bonny people should be laid to rest. It belongs to the Ijaws.

First before you shout Yoruba awedu eating afonja, you should understand I am a full blooded Yoruba man. No need to remind me.

Secondly, I love history and I won't like seeing revisionists articles flying everywhere on the forum.

To the matter. I think ijaws are to be blamed for this flaw. They broke the first rule of survival which is self preservation.

There is something called acculturation in their culture. It is an act of baptizing of stranger into their folds. And in this case, pepple house, which was the ruling house.

Opobo was acculturised into Ijaw way of life and made to benefit from the house inheritance.

According to town culture, heritage is not by birthrights but by who is capable to rule the house. Jaja was capable, though there was a in-house civil war when he was made to rule the house, but he won decisively. This marks the beginning of his exploits.

The Ijaws followed him as their ruler. And during the palm oil boom (palm oil also known and red oil). Jaja has already taken control of the water ways and creeks for trading with the Europeans (his sagacity and business acumen can't be overruled). This sole act gave him some form of monopoly over the new trade in the creeks, he was the sole exporter to the UK in rivers while still maintaining holds on who trades what along the water ways with other European countries. He was wealthy so does the city he built from the ijaw followers.

A source from premiumtimes: https://www.premiumtimesng.com/opinion/155532-general-minimah-opobo-ancestry-burden-history-eric-teniola.html

This will later put him into trouble with the Queen, as the UK was so greedy to the extent that she wanted to trade directly with the merchants which they did after sentencing jaja to banishment in Accra (present day Ghana). Jaja himself was instrumental in conquering Ashanti forces (but let's not deviate from the topic).

The palm oil boom brought about large numbers of Igbo in the hinterlands into bonny (it must be corrected that though some were slaves but most Igbos that came during the oil boom were free born not slaves). They came with their cultures and way of lives in such numbers that threatened the indigenous people. Instead of ijaw to take control, they decided to hide some vital part of the community from them like languages etc... But this backfires as Igbo became the largest spoken language in the area in just matter of years (the indigenous people also adopted the language).

Another source (oral interview): http://asirimagazine.com/en/opobo-chronicles-from-genesis-to-revelation/

It should be noted that this is not the first time indigenous people will adopt other people's language, clothings, names and other cultural values. Example is Akoko Edo in present day Edo state. Most of the towns and villages are very fluent in Yoruba language, they adopted the Yoruba language and some part of cultures. Even some of their towns have Yoruba names, but they are not Yoruba - they are edoic group. Another example is ijaw in present day ondo state. Most of them speak Yoruba fluently and adopt the names, typical one is Omoyele Sowore.... He is an ijaw man who could be mistaken for a Yoruba man. Apart from those, there are some far Edo towns in etsako east local govt like okpella etc that have Yoruba names and also speak the language fluently, that doesn't make them Yoruba. The current ruling house in Ilorin all bears Yoruba name and speak Yoruba fluently, that doesn't make them Yoruba... They are Fulanis! The itsekiri adopted their clothings from Bini, that doesn't make them one.

The point I am trying to make here is that, people adopting your language, name and culture doesn't change them from who they were... Their identities will still remain intact as their genetical makeup.

Even an heavily biased igbodefender blog here admitted one truth which agreed to heavy migration of Igbo to the ijaw owned town.

Source: https://igbodefender.com/2016/05/16/more-facts-emerge-that-opobo-and-bonny-people-are-mostly-igbo/

To that boy that said he wanted to cry when he heard people speaking Igbo fluently in bonny, you have tears in your eyes. Language is for communication. If bonny is located in the north, they will speak Hausa fluently. In Southern Kaduna alone, there are more than 20 tribes. All of them speak Hausa but still retain their cultural identities.


I am done. You are opened to bash me, but make sure you bring evidences of opposing views. Insults alone won't do the trick.

We have shown you ancient documents by neutral observers that rightly showed that Igbos were the first settlers in UBANI, and you are here quoting something from some recent newspapers.

OfoIgbo:



We have shown you ancient documents by neutral observers that rightly showed that Igbos were the first settlers in UBANI, and you are here quoting something from some recent newspapers.

Even Premium times.
Lol. Afonjas sef

Oksman:
Baseless article.
Are you the spokesman for the ijaws? So the Europeans who migrated to the Americas are no longer Americans? I can go on and on. I am neither pro nor contra but your presentation is watery. Humankind is a product of migration. Even your Yoruba tribe came from Egypt as your oral history portrays, so saying that the Ijaws are non natives in Ondo is nothing but fallacy. They are indigenes of the land and you can't drive them away.
Bonny belong to Ijaws, but the area occupied by ijaw in Ondo belongs to Yorubas, listen to yourself.

Go and Watch the Video of Bonny King affirming his Ijawness

kmcutez:


Warri was a mixed town with home to different indigenes, hence why they just wrote Warri. Go use google. Don’t be lazy.

Lol... I am the one doing the lecturing here, don't forget. U dropped a screenshot of warri to pass as itsekiri voting for Midwest. I corrected you that itsekiri are not the only occupants. Only for you to hypocritically turn around to admit the truth while feigning knowledge I taught you.

The other occupants are Urhobo and Ijaws. I am sure you learnt something new with this.

By the way, I see that you dodged something. I asked for the source of the screenshot you dropped, but u went muted. You are busy spreading misinformation you can't support as facts. That is deceits!

BKayy:

I told you that your aim with those your Aboh and Igbo threads was to get inside Ndigbo and destroy us from the inside.
The process was to get some credibility from Ndigbo so that when you strike like you just did, no one will see it coming but like God had it, I was around to expose your plan on time.

Now back to the matter, can you prove that Ndigbo depended on Brass people in any form? Be it Igbo of Ubani or others (don't give me that Bonny crap).
All voyages and trades were recorded by the Captains. Look for the one that will favour you and bring it out. Any recorded trade by the Portuguese and British that refutes Igboness of Ubani or potrayed the two (Igbo of Ubani and Brass) in terms where Igbo depended on Brass People.
I am waiting for you

Ubani or Bonny was one of the main ports in Southern Nigeria at first before they set up base there they depended on it or at least some groups did to trade with Europeans but this was for a brief period

Pass11:


Oga stop talking nonsensical nonsense

Does this people look and speak like ijaw to you? Watch this video to the end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q22f9HXmw7Y

Those are the Igbo of Bonny

BKayy:

Then prove your confusion with facts from the people that met the places as independent towns not Nigerian news site of yesterday.
Quote or share one of the British or Portuguese captains narrative about the place or any other work pre 1967 Biafran war.
As for the idiocy of your assertion "Ndigbo moving into Bonny and Opubo brought about the Igbo Language and Customs". Need I remind you that those two places are Islands and Ndigbo are not amphibians? Opobo was actually linked to the mainland few weeks ago.

Lol... So the facts I dropped are no longer facts

But you re yet to bring your own source. I am not asking for a screenshot this time. Bring me source.

OfoIgbo:



We have shown you ancient documents by neutral observers that rightly showed that Igbos were the first settlers in UBANI, and you are here quoting something from some recent newspapers.

Bring source not screenshots. Thanks in advance. But I know u can't bring anything.

BKayy:

There was camera in 20th century. So prove it like this picture of Yoruba savages below (early 20th and late 20th when others have started travelling to Europe respectively)

Why you acting as if there aren't images of Igbo women with their breasts laid clad it was a general African phenomena we had textiles but women still dressed in that manner

OfoIgbo:



We have shown you ancient documents by neutral observers that rightly showed that Igbos were the first settlers in UBANI, and you are here quoting something from some recent newspapers.

This is the reason why Nigeria loose bakassi
to Cameroon , Nigeria was quoting newspapers as evidence while Cameroon show colonial documented evidence. Igbo history of ubani is well documented by the colonial masters.

bobowaja:

Lol... So the facts I dropped are no longer facts

But you re yet to bring your own source. I am not asking for a screenshot this time. Bring me source.

Premium times was founded in 2011.
Ok since you don't want sceenshots then read memoirs of Captain Hugh Crow of Liverpool. He was a slave captain that traded extensively in "Bonny" and he documented what he saw at New Kalabari, Ubani (He was very clear on the name) and Brass (He called it Independent country, people, language and culture).
The autobiography was published in 1830.
After reading it, post your confusion let's help and guide you to Enlightenment

Abohboy:


Those are the Igbo of Bonny

Is king jaja Igbo or ijaw man?

bobowaja:

Lol... I am the one doing the lecturing here, don't forget. U dropped a screenshot of warri to pass as itsekiri voting for Midwest. I corrected you that itsekiri are not the only occupants. Only for you to hypocritically turn around to admit the truth while feigning knowledge I taught you.

The other occupants are Urhobo and Ijaws. I am sure you learnt something new with this.

By the way, I see that you dodged something. I asked for the source of the screenshot you dropped, but u went muted. You are busy spreading misinformation you can't support as facts. That is deceits!

Go to google, the image is there on the first page. Just do a search for Midwest referendum, Nigeria. That means Urhobo, Ijaw and Itshekiri are indigenous to Warri.

Pass11:

Is king jaja Igbo or ijaw man?

Igbo of course he's from Imo State and before he came there were thousands of Igbo traders and traditional rulers living in the Bonny, Brasss and Opobo areas but this doesn;t discount the Ijaw indignes these areas have a mixed population of both Igbos and Ijaws but it seems today the Igbos are more numerous then the Ijaws in these areas

Abohboy you're exposing yourself here, bbkay was right your an evil minority, the more you speak the more I spit in disgust I'm just waiting for one comment, one slip up to confirm that you're no better than the Ijaws. At first, I believed you but now your start piss all us off, if you don't STOP speak ignorantly or taking sides then you are an Igbo imposter.

Taven09090:
Abohboy you're exposing yourself here, bbkay was right your an evil minority, the more you speak the more I spit in disgust I'm just waiting for one comment, one slip up to confirm that you're no better than the Ijaws. At first, I believed you but now your start piss all us off, if you don't STOP speak ignorantly or taking sides then you are an Igbo imposter.

Pass11:

This is the reason why Nigeria loose bakassi
to Cameroon , Nigeria was quoting newspapers as evidence while Cameroon show colonial documented evidence. Igbo history of ubani is well documented by the colonial masters.

They (Ijaw) know that the more they dig into this, the more they expose themselves that's why they are quiet but Ụmụ ajọ mmụọ Like Afonjas that pushed them to this still want more disgrace on them. They want Ijaw to be exposed totally.
Do you know that if Ijaws were to post any pre Nigeria documented Source, they will lose Brass because Brass people will now know that they were recognised as an Independent people, ethnicity and Country before Nigeria.

bobowaja:

Bring source not screenshots. Thanks in advance. But I know u can't bring anything.

We have shown you screenshots of books some of which are about 200 years old. Many decades before Nigeria came into existence.

You are here bringing up newspaper articles and editorials of modern NBC-compliant, politically-motivated and ignorantly-put-together articles.

You want us to give you the whole books? UBANI/IBANI has no Ijaw meaning. Know that and know peace.

BKayy:

Even Premium times.
Lol. Afonjas sef

So premiumtimes is no longer source but sauce.

bobowaja:

I like setting the record straight. I have seen a lot of lies flying about for the past few days, especially of that boy that wanted to cry cos people spoke Igbo. If Yoruba should start claiming lands, we will claim Edo with Bini sef cos we own their obaship. But we see beyond that. Those are people with different cultures. The only thing we share with Bini is the obaship and as for the citizens, they are not Yoruba.

That Oba of Bini have Yoruba ancestors doesn't mean his kingdom belongs to us. Same fallacy you guys want to pull on bonny cos jaja had Igbo bloodline.

Jaja alone can't constitute the town just as a tree doesn't make a forest.


Who were the wives of Jaja and they were from which tribe? Who were the chiefs, servants, soldiers and followers of Jaja and what was their tribe?

Pass11:

Is king jaja Igbo or ijaw man?

Go read my op. Thanks

DubaiLandLord:


When did the Jews migrated from Israel to Igbo land?

Hmnn, I know where you are going!