KNOWMORE56:


"..."HE" references God the Father & CREATOR OF the person personified as "Wisdom."

Ok. To me now...

Watch Tower: only Jesus is what the Father used His hand to create; all other things were then created by/through Jesus...

Janosky : the Father created other things... Proverbs 8:26-28

You and the 8 men have a talk to settle...

Shuuooo !!!!!!

KNOWMORE56 why do you enjoy making your FALSE claims ?
In screenshot,Where did I type that claim you put up against my moniker?
Bros, dey fear God ooooo !!

KNOWMORE56 vain attempt to divert attention away from Proverbs 8:22-30 exposure of his FALSE accusation.
He doesn't want to hear that Jesus the "wisdom" was the Craftsman working at his Father's side "[b]Fashioning with Him" to create the earth @ Proverbs 8:22-30, 1 Cor 1:24.[/b]

Janosky:
Shuuooo !!!!!!KNOWMORE56 why do you enjoy making your FALSE claims ?
In screenshot,Where did I type that claim you put up against my moniker?
Bros, dey fear God ooooo !!

Lying liar!

If Proverb 8 says 27 I was there when the Lord put the heavens in place and stretched the sky over the surface of the sea. 28 I was with him when he placed the clouds in the sky and created the springs that fill the ocean. 29 I was there when he set boundaries for the sea to make it obey him, and when he laid foundations to support the earth.

It's evident from this passage that the SPEAKER is different from the one who actually performing the action.

So if you're using Proverbs to proof Jesus creation then, it means Jesus never claimed to be used in the act of creation rather the "He" does it.

KNOWMORE56 vain attempt to divert attention away from Proverbs 8:22-30 exposure of his FALSE accusation.
He doesn't want to hear that Jesus the "wisdom" was the Craftsman working at his Father's side & through The wisdom the earth was made @ Proverbs 8:22-30, 1 Cor 1:24.[/b]

If you're not diverting attention and you not lacking scriptural understanding, you'll know proverbs 8:22-30 is actually exposing your lying mouth.

I remembered this same moniker once asked who is the "I" and "HE" in that proverbs which non of you could answer simply because it against your lying lips.

Emusan:


At least the evidence is that Trinity predated Constantine which your lying organization always propagated.

And if this people who lived close to the time of Jesus can say the early Christians worshipped Jesus along side of Father, is it your lying organization who came thousand years after the scene we should believe?

Mr JaNosense the lying liar JWs like his father the devil.

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Despite the fact that you quoted Mounce Greek where it's written boldly "CRUCIFY HIM" you can still be calling it as your witness

When you know the word CRUCIFY was derived from CRUX

Secular history indeed!

can you provide the secular history that says Roman Empire killed anyone ON A STAKE?

Reason why the lying liar couldn't answer my questions.

Here are they again:
1. Who killed Jesus? Jews or Roman?
2. Has Roman ever killed anyone on pole or stake? Provide the evidence.

Even the Deu 21:22 you always run to doesn't favour you, I'll expose your ignorance on this if you try to say nonsense on this.

Lastly, even the Jews never used crucifixion as capital punishment. The Jews only have four capital punishments: stoning, burning, decapitation, and strangulation.

So how can Jesus be killed on a pole when neither the Jews and Romans used pole to kill anyone

Enjoy your delusion and lies

#1
Mumu WAILER making FALSE claims
Is Greek stauros a traverse beam ?

Complete Jewish Bible says no !
Secular history from BBC/Washington Post & Greek literary works of Homer et all says no !

Emusan no get SENSE



#2.
None of the men you named in all the years of AD had any interaction with any disciples of Christ.
Apostles Paul and John alerted genuine believers about the GIBBERISH your mentors would introduce into the world.
Justin Martyr is NOT a Trinitarian.
You conjured several names who had no link to your Trinity GIBBERISH.

Tueh !

Emusan:


Lying liar!

If Proverb 8 says 27 I was there when the Lord put the heavens in place and stretched the sky over the surface of the sea. 28 I was with him when he placed the clouds in the sky and created the springs that fill the ocean. 29 I was there when he set boundaries for the sea to make it obey him, and when he laid foundations to support the earth.

Liar LIENUS
Proverbs 8:22-25, 1 Corinthians 1:24, Jesus the Wisdom was created before heaven & earth exists.

Emusan:


It's evident from this passage that the SPEAKER is different from the one who actually performing the action.

So if you're using Proverbs to proof Jesus creation then, it means Jesus never claimed to be used in the act of creation rather the "He" does it.

Verses 29-30,The Wisdom , Jesus was the Craftsman "Fashioning with" his Father & Creator.
" The Craftsman" is a living being created @ Verse 22.
Emusan LIENUS wedded to FALSE claims.

Emusan:


If you're not diverting attention and you not lacking scriptural understanding, you'll know proverbs 8:22-30 is actually exposing your lying mouth.

I remembered this same moniker once asked who is the "I" and "HE" in that proverbs which non of you could answer simply because it against your lying lips.

Continue LYING and DECEIVING yourself.
It's on record that at Proverbs 8:22-30, your Trinity mentors, the Geneva Bible references Proverbs 8:22-30 to John 1:1.
Aramaic (Pershitta) is the closest language to Hebrew.
CREATE @ Proverbs 8:22 = Genesis 14:19


View the screenshot evidence where your comrade KNOWMORE56 made a FALSE claim.
Emusan tie wrapper with FALSE claims.
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Janosky:
#1
Mumu WAILER making FALSE claims
Is Greek stauros a traverse beam?

No wonder the lying liar like his father the devil cant answer my simple questions

He knows the moment he answer those questions, his balloon of lies will be deflated with a single pin.

1. Who killed Jesus, Jews or the Roman's?
2. Has Roman ever killed anyone on pole or stake?

Complete Jewish Bible says no !
Secular history from BBC/Washington Post & Greek literary works of Homer et all says no !

Emusan no get SENSE

1. Who killed Jesus, Jews or the Roman's?
2. Has Roman ever killed anyone on pole or stake?

You'll see the deluded lying liar JWs like his father the devil avoiding those questions.

#2.
None of the men you named in all the years of AD had any interaction with any disciples of Christ.
Apostles Paul and John alerted genuine believers about the GIBBERISH your mentors would introduce into the world.
Justin Martyr is NOT a Trinitarian.
You conjured several names who had no link to your Trinity GIBBERISH.

Tueh !

But your 8 men in Brooklyn have interaction with the disciples of Jesus Christ

So Justin isn't a Trinitarian that means Justin Martyr is a JWs

The same way your lying organization says in their publication "Should you believe in Trinity?" lied by hiding the true quote of Justin and even went further to say "The Ante-Nicene Fathers were acknowledged to have been leading religious teaching in the early centuries after Christ's birth death. What they taught is of INTEREST". pg. 7

So if what this Fathers taught was interesting, why the same organization denying Jesus to be God since the same Fathers taught Jesus is God.

Just a few quotes from Justin Martyr:
1. Justin Martyr 150 AD: "The Father of the universe has a Son, who also being the first begotten Word of God, is EVEN GOD" (Justin Martyr First Apology, Ch63)

150AD: "christ is called both God and Lord of Hosts" (Dialogue with Trypho, ch36)

150AD: Quoting Hebrews 1:8 to prove the diety of Christ "Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever" (Dialogue with Trypho, ch56)

150AD: Both Him, and the Son (who came forth from Him and taught us these things, and the host of the other good angels who follow and are make like Him), and the prophetic Spirit, we worship and adore." (First Apology, ch6) whereas the same Justin Martyr said in ch16 "Worship God alone" and in another place "Whence to God alone we render worship"

Now what this Fathers taught is of interest

Janosky:
Liar LIENUS
Proverbs 8:22-25, 1 Corinthians 1:24, Jesus the Wisdom was created before heaven & earth exists.

That means Jesus exists in eternity which then makes him God



Wahala for who know no scripture.

Verses 29-30,The Wisdom , Jesus was the Craftsman "Fashioning with" his Father & Creator.
" The Craftsman" is a living being created @ Verse 22.
Emusan LIENUS wedded to FALSE claims.

A creature was FASHIONED WITH YOUR god

Continue LYING and DECEIVING yourself.
It's on record that at Proverbs 8:22-30, your Trinity mentors, the Geneva Bible references Proverbs 8:22-30 to John 1:1.
Aramaic (Pershitta) is the closest language to Hebrew.
CREATE @ Proverbs 8:22 = Genesis 14:19

You can continue to wail, the next thing is to run to Hebrew or Greek google

View the screenshot evidence where your comrade KNOWMORE56 made a FALSE claim.
Emusan tie wrapper with FALSE claims.
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How about the false claim you and your lying brothers have made

JaNosense the lying liar like his father the devil

Janosky:


Colossians 1:16-17, John 1:3, 1 Cor 8:6, Greek Dia, "by means of"/through him"

Bill Mounce your Trinity mentor proven Jesus is the instrumentality/Medium/Agency for Creation.
Jesus is NOT the Creator.
God his Father is the Creator,1Corinthians 8:6 confirmed


John 1:3 & Colossians 1:16-17, 1 Cor 8:6, Bill Mounce Greek interlinear proven Achorladey wrong.

Achorladey brain no dey where God put am.

Bill Mounce your Trinity mentor proven Jesus is the instrumentality or Medium or Agency for Creation

Bill Mounce will be proud of you as those you always call LIARS and FALSE CLAIMS becomes those you propagate their words as TRUTH to support the NWT not written by TRINITARIANS.

Your NWT needs the thoughts and works of MENTORS from the school of TRINITARIANS to be endorsed and approved.

Be the guest of BILL MOUNCE he is also your MENTOR


Na your NWT I quote Janosky wey him head dey where e suppose dey go TRINITARIANS

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus has a God whom he himself worships, that's the God i WORSHIP! John 20:17

Jesus as a human being has a God that he worshiped....

But JESUS as God Almighty is the 1st and the last. He has no God that He worshiped....

I give you 7 verses about Jesus as human being and 7 verses about Jesus as God Almighty:

1. John 1:30 "KJV:This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me."

2. John 4:29 "KJV:Come, see a man, which told me all things that ever I did: is not this the Christ?"

3. John 6:52 "KJV:The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?"

4. John 7:12 "KJV:And there was much murmuring among the people concerning him: for some said, He is a good man : others said, Nay; but he deceiveth the people."

5. John 8:40 "KJV:But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham."

6. 1 Corinthians 15: 47 "KJV:The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven."

7. 1 Timothy 2:5 "KJV:For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus ;"

1. John 1 1 "KJV:In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

2. John 3:33 "KJV:The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God ."

3. John 20:28 "
KJV:And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God ."

4. Acts 7:59 "KJV:And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit."

5. Romans 9:5 "KJV:Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen."

6. Titus 2:13 "KJV:Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;"

7. Hebrews 1:8 "KJV:But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."

You have to know when the writers are referring to His human nature...

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus has a God whom he himself worships, that's the God i WORSHIP! John 20:17

Jesus as a human being has a God that he worshiped....

But JESUS as God Almighty is the 1st and the last. He has no God that He worshiped....

I give you 7 verses about Jesus as human being and 7 verses about Jesus as God Almighty:

1. John 1:30 "KJV:This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me."

2. John 4:29 "KJV:Come, see a man, which told me all things that ever I did: is not this the Christ?"

3. John 6:52 "KJV:The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?"

4. John 7:12 "KJV:And there was much murmuring among the people concerning him: for some said, He is a good man : others said, Nay; but he deceiveth the people."

5. John 8:40 "KJV:But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham."

6. 1 Corinthians 15: 47 "KJV:The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven."

7. 1 Timothy 2:5 "KJV:For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus ;"

1. John 1 1 "KJV:In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

2. John 3:33 "KJV:The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God ."

3. John 20:28 "
KJV:And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God ."

4. Acts 7:59 "KJV:And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit."

5. Romans 9:5 "KJV:Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen."

6. Titus 2:13 "KJV:Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;"

7. Hebrews 1:8 "KJV:But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."

You have to know when the writers are referring to His human nature...

More at

https://www.nairaland.com/6404492/characteristics-true-god

MaxInDHouse:


Tell that to the little kids in your yard! Matthew 27:46 compare to Hebrews 5:7

Probably you don't like reading the below:

Jesus is the Creator of all things :
John 1:3-8;

*. Colossians 1:16 "KJV:For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: "

*. Romans 11:36 "KJV: For OF HIM, and THROUGH HIM, and TO HIM, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

freshboi88:


Very laughable response....dude is bereft of ideas

Why did your created Jesus not worship his creator in that verse when all created beings were worshipping?

Give us answer...

Example: it's time for all passengers to come to your right hand side... there's one person who did not come to your right hand side...

Why did he not come?

Barristter07:


He should also not have been excepted at Revelation 5:3 . Go figure , the point is clear. Christ was not recognized as a person in that text , he was represented as a Lamb . Not even counted among those in heaven.

If your point was valid, you would accept he is not also among those in heaven, do you accept ?

The answer is simple... He is not one of them...!
He is to receive worship and no to give worship!

"
If your point was valid, you would accept he is not also among those in heaven, do you accept "

That verse you quoted says THERE'S NO MAN meaning THERE'S NO HUMAN BEING... He wasn't there as human being that's why He was not counted:

*. Revelation 5:3 "KJV:And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon."

The other place says EVERY CREATURE... including the 4 beasts... I remember your DO ROCK AND--- HAVE MOUTH?

*. Revelations 5:13 "KJV:And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever."


From all eternity to all eternity I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE!

FATHER/SON IS FROM EVERLASTING TO EVERLASTING:
Psalm 90:2; 93:2; Proverbs 8:23; Isaiah 9: 6; 63:16; Jeremiah 10:10; Daniel 4:3,34; 2 Peter 1:11:

*. Daniel 4:3 "KJV:How great are his signs! and how mighty are his wonders! his kingdom is an EVERLASTING kingdom, and his dominion is from generation to generation.
34
KJV:And at the end of the days I Nebuchadnezzar lifted up mine eyes unto heaven, and mine understanding returned unto me, and I blessed the most High, and I praised and honoured him that liveth for ever, whose dominion is an EVERLASTING dominion , and his kingdom is from generation to generation:"

*. 2 Peter 1 :11 "KJV:For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the EVERLASTING kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ ."

Now show me another being with such names.
I mean, an angel or a human being or anything else that has all these attributes.

FATHER/SON IS THE ROCK :

*. Deuteronomy 32:4 "KJV: He is THE ROCK , his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he." i e the Father

*. Deuteronomy 32:18 "KJV:Of THE ROCKS that begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee." i.e the Father

*. Romans 9:32 "KJV:As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and ROCK of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed." i.e the Son

*. 1 Corinthians 10:4 "
KJV:And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. " i.e the Son

KNOWMORE56:
6. 1 Corinthians 15: 47 "KJV:The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the LORD (JEHOVAH) from heaven."

If they're being truthful to themselves, that verse should have read "Jehovah" but alas they know the implication, so they won't try that.

You have to know when the writers are referring to His human nature...

This is exactly what I use to tell them.

The day they will understand when the scripture is talking about Jesus before He entered creation and after He became part of creation, is the day their delusions will be cured.

[quote author=KNOWMORE56 post=105591747]

The answer is simple... He is not one of them...!
He is to receive worship and no to give worship!

"
If your point was valid, you would accept he is not also among those in heaven, do you accept "

That verse you quoted says THERE'S NO MAN meaning THERE'S NO HUMAN BEING... He wasn't there as human being that's why He was not counted:

*. Revelation 5:3 "KJV:And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon."

The other place says EVERY CREATURE... including the 4 beasts... I remember your DO ROCK AND--- HAVE MOUTH?

*. Revelations 5:13 "KJV:And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever."


From all eternity to all eternity I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE!

FATHER/SON IS FROM EVERLASTING TO EVERLASTING:
Psalm 90:2; 93:2; Proverbs 8:23; Isaiah 9: 6; 63:16; Jeremiah 10:10; Daniel 4:3,34; 2 Peter 1:11:

*. Daniel 4:3 "KJV:How great are his signs! and how mighty are his wonders! his kingdom is an EVERLASTING kingdom, and his dominion is from generation to generation.
34
KJV:And at the end of the days I Nebuchadnezzar lifted up mine eyes unto heaven, and mine understanding returned unto me, and I blessed the most High, and I praised and honoured him that liveth for ever, whose dominion is an EVERLASTING dominion , and his kingdom is from generation to generation:"

*. 2 Peter 1 :11 "KJV:For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the EVERLASTING kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ ."

Now show me another being with such names.
I mean, an angel or a human being or anything else that has all these attributes.

FATHER/SON IS THE ROCK :

*. Deuteronomy 32:4 "KJV: He is THE ROCK , his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he." i e the Father

*. Deuteronomy 32:18 "KJV:Of THE ROCKS that begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee." i.e the Father

*. Romans 9:32 "KJV:As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and ROCK of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed." i.e the Son

*. 1 Corinthians 10:4 "
KJV:And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. " [b] i.e the Son [/b

Barristter07:

*. John 16:14 "KJV:He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine , and shall shew it unto you.
15
KJV: All things that the Father hath are mine : therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you."

*. John 17:10 "KJV:And ALL MINE ARE THINE, and THINE ARE MINE [b] ; and I am glorified in them."

John 15:26 holy spirit [b] ' comes from the Father '
You miss it.
Without it, Jesus can't accomplish anything , this is why it could be said that Jehovah created the heavens.

The verses I gave say SPIRIT OF CHRIST... He (Jesus) has said I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE, ALL THAT THE FATHER HAS ARE MINE or ALL THAT I HAVE ARE HIS yet watch Tower devotees want to disprove Him!

The Father's spirit is the same as the Son's spirit:

*. Romans 8:9 "KJV: But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ [b], he is none of his.

*. Philippines 1:19 "KJV: For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the [b] Spirit of Jesus Christ, "

*. 1 peter 1:11
"10 KJV: Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
11
KJV: Searching what, or what manner of time THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

Note: apostle Peter says THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST was in all the prophets from Genesis to revelation!

No sir, Nobody was created in Jesus image.

We don't have two or three images in the Word... the image of the Father is the same with the Son and the Holy Spirit!

*. Hebrews 1:3 "KJV:Who being the brightness of his glory, and THE EXPRESS IMAGE OF HIS PERSON , and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high"

Barristter07:

Psalm 89:6,7 none of the Sons of God is like Jehovah. Rest, as long as Jesus bears " Son" . He is not like Jehovah

The word ONLY means NO OTHER... Jesus is the only begotten SON of God...

He possesses all the qualities of the only true God!

*. Hebrews 1:5 "KJV:For unto which of the angels said he at any time, THOU ART MY SON, THIS DAY HAVE I BEGOTTEN THEE ? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?"

*. John 3:16 "KJV:For God so loved the world, that he gave HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON , that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

Janosky:

Philippians 2:7-8, Acts 3:13 why do you KNOWMORE56, worship God's servant on earth?
Hebrews 1:6 Catholic Jerusalem Bible, your Pope confirmed it's "pay homage" in heaven NOT worship.
Matthew 2:11 & Hebrews 1:6, the same Greek proskyneo can not be worship.
Common sense
Why do you disobey your Pope @ Hebrews 1:6?
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Worship can mean homage and homage can mean worship....

The Word Only =TWO (the 2nd person in the Godhead) ... if you count from the Father He's number 2; if you count from the Holy Spirit He remains number 2!

The Word ONLY... not the word and the GB...
The Word ONLY... not the word and the GO/GS/pope...

Fact checking and confirmed.
KNOWMORE56 is a Polytheist, worshipping 2 persons.
John 20:17 , Revelation 3:12 Jesus worships only one God his Father.

1×1×1=1✓
1+1+1=1x

Father ,Son and Holy Spirit = One✓

*. John 10 :30 "KJV:I and my Father are one."

Matthew 27:46 the son Jesus died and cried to "my God,my God"
Proof : Jesus his son has never lived forever.
Therefore, Revelation 4:10-11 references Jehovah his God who lives forever.

You are pointing to Jesus as human being:

1. John 1:30 "KJV:This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me."

2. John 4:29 "KJV:Come, see a man, which told me all things that ever I did: is not this the Christ?"

3. John 6:52 "KJV:The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?"

4. John 7:12 "KJV:And there was much murmuring among the people concerning him: for some said, He is a good man : others said, Nay; but he deceiveth the people."

5. John 8:40 "KJV:But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham."

6. 1 Corinthians 15: 47 "KJV:The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven."

7. 1 Timothy 2:5 "KJV:For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus ;"

8. Acts 2:22 "KJV:Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:"

Yes.
Catholic Jerusalem Bible, your Pope says "pay homage" in heaven.

Trinitarians are Polytheists.
Bros, you're proven your worship of 2 persons.

* Luke 1:73-74, references Jehovah.
Jesus never had any covenant with Abraham.

Matthew 20:28 , emphasis on "SERVE"
KNOWMORE56 says Jesus worships men
Bros, the Greek words "SERVE" @ John 12:26 & Matthew 20:28 mean the same thing.
DON'T DECEIVE yourself.

"SERVE" @ Matthew 4:10 & Acts 7:7 refers to the same thing.
There are 2 different Greek words translated as "SERVE" in English @ Matthew 4:10 & John 12:26 have different meaning.
Bros, pls go & confirm.
Don't post FALSE claims.

Jesus is God blessed forever!

*. Acts 10:36 "KJV:The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by [b] Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all: )"

*. Romans 9:5 "KJV:Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever . Amen."

I have a question for you Jehovah's witnesses and i would like you to answer me honestly, please.

You believe that we humans are purely flesh and blood, and not spirits who are housed in bodies.

So how do you interpret this portion of scripture -

Mat 17:1 Now after six days Jesus took Peter, James, and John his brother, led them up on a high mountain by themselves;
Mat 17:2 and He was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and His clothes became as white as the light.
Mat 17:3 And behold, Moses and Elijah appeared to them, talking with Him.
Mat 17:4 Then Peter answered and said to Jesus, "Lord, it is good for us to be here; if You wish, let us make here three tabernacles: one for You, one for Moses, and one for Elijah."

The text appears to indicate that Moses and Elijah who had died and were buried centuries before the coming of Jesus in the flesh appeared to Jesus and conversed with Him and the disciples were able to recognize them. If all dead saints and sinners are just asleep in their graves till the day of the resurrection (which is also the same day Jesus returns) as Jehovah's witnesses believe (or if sinners cease to exist when they die, as KoboJunkie believes), then what is the correct interpretation of this text?

This account is also recorded in Mark 9:2-6 and Luke 9:28-33.

Also, the portion of scripture that gives the account of how a medium that King Saul went to see summoned the spirit of the prophet Samuel below by performing a seance -

1Sa 28:7 Then Saul said to his servants, "Find me a woman who is a medium, that I may go to her and inquire of her." And his servants said to him, "In fact, there is a woman who is a medium at En Dor."
1Sa 28:8 So Saul disguised himself and put on other clothes, and he went, and two men with him; and they came to the woman by night. And he said, "Please conduct a seance for me, and bring up for me the one I shall name to you."
1Sa 28:9 Then the woman said to him, "Look, you know what Saul has done, how he has cut off the mediums and the spiritists from the land. Why then do you lay a snare for my life, to cause me to die?"
1Sa 28:10 And Saul swore to her by the LORD, saying, "As the LORD lives, no punishment shall come upon you for this thing."
1Sa 28:11 Then the woman said, "Whom shall I bring up for you?" And he said, "Bring up Samuel for me."
1Sa 28:12 When the woman saw Samuel, she cried out with a loud voice. And the woman spoke to Saul, saying, "Why have you deceived me? For you are Saul!"
1Sa 28:13 And the king said to her, "Do not be afraid. What did you see?" And the woman said to Saul, "I saw a spirit ascending out of the earth."
1Sa 28:14 So he said to her, "What is his form?" And she said, "An old man is coming up, and he is covered with a mantle." And Saul perceived that it was Samuel, and he stooped with his face to the ground and bowed down.
1Sa 28:15 Now Samuel said to Saul, "Why have you disturbed me by bringing me up?" And Saul answered, "I am deeply distressed; for the Philistines make war against me, and God has departed from me and does not answer me anymore, neither by prophets nor by dreams. Therefore I have called you, that you may reveal to me what I should do."

For me it is a confirmation of the doctrine that we humans are triune beings comprising of a spirit, soul and physical body as revealed to us in
1 Thessalonians 5:23 and also in other passages of scripture like James 2:26 and Eccle 12:7 among others.

Now according to KoboJunkie, all sinners are purely flesh and blood, but believers are the ones who get to be born of the spirit, and therefore become spirit beings but prior to believing were simply born of the flesh, and therefore were nothing more than flesh and blood.

And according to Jehovah's witnesses all humans are purely flesh and blood and when saints and sinners die they remain asleep in their graves till when Jesus returns. After which they will be resurrected. Saints will be given eternal life here on earth, while sinners will be annihilated or wipes out of existence. Therefore, the witnesses don't believe in a literal heaven for saints or hell for sinners.

But this text from 1 samuel clearly states - And the woman said to Saul, "I saw a spirit ascending out of the earth.". So nobody can say that she summoned a being made of flesh and blood, but rather, a spirit, thus confirming the doctrine that we humans are triune beings (spirits who have souls and live in bodies) which automatically confirms the doctrine that when a person's spirit departs from their body they go to their eternal home as revealed in Luke 16:19-31, 2 Corinthians 5:1-8, Heb 9:27, among others.

Because a person's spirit cannot just be roaming about the earth after it leaves the body (which isn't scriptural).

Anyways, MaxInDHouse, Janosky, Bishopkingsley, Emusan, KNOWMORE56, freshboi88, DappaD, KoboJunkie, Barristter07, let me have your opinions on this please.

And please no insults, as the Bible speaks against such.

Gracias.

Emusan:


Lying liar!

If Proverb 8 says 27 I was there when the Lord put the heavens in place and stretched the sky over the surface of the sea. 28 I was with him when he placed the clouds in the sky and created the springs that fill the ocean. 29 I was there when he set boundaries for the sea to make it obey him, and when he laid foundations to support the earth.

It's evident from this passage that the SPEAKER is different from the one who actually performing the action.

So if you're using Proverbs to proof Jesus creation then, it means Jesus never claimed to be used in the act of creation rather the [b]"He" does it.[/b]

Sifia pains of a LIENUS
Emusan LIENUS pretends as if verse 30 is not in his Bible

Proverbs 8:30
I was a skilled craftsman beside Him. I was His delight every day, always rejoicing before Him.

3 Questions for Emusan:
#1.
Verse 30, did 'Craftsman' another living being, rejoice with JEHOVAH?

Who is the skilled Craftsman working beside Jehovah @ verses 26-30?

In the screenshot Who is the skilled "Craftsman" created/Born by Lord Jehovah
@ verses 22-25?

Emusan:



I remembered this same moniker once asked who is the "I" and "HE" in that proverbs which non of you could answer simply because it against your lying lips.

You sure say your brain dey where God put am?

Your friend KNOWMORE56 asks "who is the
"HE" ?
I have responded, as proven by the screenshot.

Emusan must reproduce the evidence for his claims ("which non of you could answer".
Bros , do the needful, let's see he's not LYING.
The ball is rolling in his court.

KNOWMORE56:


Worship can mean homage and homage can mean worship....

Is the younger man worshipping his elders in the screenshot?

KNOWMORE56:


The Word Only =TWO (the 2nd person in the Godhead) ... if you count from the Father He's number 2; if you count from the Holy Spirit He remains number 2!

The Word ONLY... not the word and the GB...
The Word ONLY... not the word and the GO/GS/pope...


1×1×1=1✓
1+1+1=1x

Father ,Son and Holy Spirit = One✓

*. John 10 :30 "KJV:I and my Father are one."

Your arithmetic is faulty.
1st plus 1=2nd; 2nd plus 1= 3rd.
Your doctrine is called Trinity/Triune= 3 Gods.

Did you see "holy spirit" in your Bible @ John 10:30?

KNOWMORE56:


You are pointing to Jesus as human being:

1. John 1:30 "KJV:This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me."

2. John 4:29 "KJV:Come, see a man, which told me all things that ever I did: is not this the Christ?"

3. John 6:52 "KJV:The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?"

4. John 7:12 "KJV:And there was much murmuring among the people concerning him: for some said, He is a good man : others said, Nay; but he deceiveth the people."

5. John 8:40 "KJV:But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham."

6. 1 Corinthians 15: 47 "KJV:The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven."

7. 1 Timothy 2:5 "KJV:For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus ;"

8. Acts 2:22 "KJV:Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:"

1 Corinthians 15:45
"the second man is the Lord" is NOT in any Greek manuscript.


Hypocrite who accuse JWs about Colossians 1:16

KNOWMORE56:

Jesus is God blessed forever!

*. Acts 10:36 "KJV:The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all: )"

*. Romans 9:5 "KJV:Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever . Amen."

Your fellow Trinitarian devotee, R.S. Franks, (screenshot) The Principal, Western College, Bristol says your claim is NOT true.

Why is the same ghost given you & Mr Franks, your Trinity devotee, conflicting revelations on Romans 9:5?

2 Corinthians 11:31, what is Paul teaching you?

*

Emusan:


If they're being truthful to themselves, that verse should have read "Jehovah" but alas they know the implication, so they won't try that.



This is exactly what I use to tell them.

The day they will understand when the scripture is talking about Jesus before He entered creation and after He became part of creation, is the day their delusions will be cured.

Mr LIENUS doing his beat.

1 Corinthians 15:45 New Living Translation by your Trinitarian mentors and Triune devotees.

Mr LIENUS wedded to FALSE claims.

KNOWMORE56:

*.
We don't have two or three images in the Word... the image of the Father is the same with the Son and the Holy Spirit!

*. Hebrews 1:3 "KJV:Who being the brightness of his glory, and THE EXPRESS IMAGE OF HIS PERSON , and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high"

"God created man in his image according to his likeness", Genesis 1:27.
Matthew 19:4-5, God Almighty "HE" made them male & female"

The same image of man,
Man is God, according to your mumu logic.

** Hebrews 1:3 "representation",
Mounce Greek interlinear.

Representation is a resemblance, or godlike.
not the same person.

Another fraud from your Trinitarian mentors.

KNOWMORE56:

*. John 16:14 "KJV:He shall glorify me: for he ( the Father ) shall receive of mine , and shall shew it unto you.
15
KJV: All things that the Father hath are mine : therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you."

*. John 17:10 "KJV:And ALL MINE ARE THINE, and THINE ARE MINE [b] ; and I am glorified in them."

[b]John 17:7 & Matthew 28:18.
" Everything I have are gifts from the Father"
Bros, don't add your Maggi & condiments to the holy scriptures.

KNOWMORE56:

The verses I gave say SPIRIT OF CHRIST... He (Jesus) has said I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE, ALL THAT THE FATHER HAS ARE MINE or ALL THAT I HAVE ARE HIS yet watch Tower devotees want to disprove Him!

The Father's spirit is the same as the Son's spirit:

*. Romans 8:9 "KJV: But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ [b], he is none of his.

*. Philippines 1:19 "KJV: For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the [b] Spirit of Jesus Christ, "

*. 1 peter 1:11
"10 KJV: Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
11
KJV: Searching what, or what manner of time THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

Note: apostle Peter says [b] THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST was in all the prophets from Genesis to revelation![/b]

Did Trinity and Emusan LIENUS teach you your 3 spirits are distinct?
God the spirit is not son the spirit etc.
This una ojoro done robbers una brain

KNOWMORE56:


The answer is simple... He is not one of them...!
He is to receive worship and no to give worship!

"
If your point was valid, you would accept he is not also among those in heaven, do you accept "

That verse you quoted says THERE'S NO MAN meaning THERE'S NO HUMAN BEING... He wasn't there as human being that's why He was not counted:

*. Revelation 5:3 "KJV:And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon."

The other place says EVERY CREATURE... including the 4 beasts... I remember your DO ROCK AND--- HAVE MOUTH?

*. Revelations 5:13 "KJV:And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever."

Revelation 3:5,12 in heaven,Jesus confess he worships God his Father.

KNOWMORE56:

From all eternity to all eternity I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE!

Man and wife are one till eternity

KNOWMORE56:

FATHER/SON IS FROM EVERLASTING TO EVERLASTING:
Psalm 90:2; 93:2; Proverbs 8:23; Isaiah 9: 6; 63:16; Jeremiah 10:10; Daniel 4:3,34; 2 Peter 1:11:

Psalms 90:2 the God Jehovah who born the earth & it's mountains is everlasting.
If his son is everlasting , why begging "my God my God" before his death @ Matthew 27:46?

"Jehovah created me at the beginning before his works of old", "I was set up" Proverbs 8:22,23, the Bible just dey expose Trinity GIBBERISH

KNOWMORE56:

*. Daniel 4:3 "KJV:How great are his signs! and how mighty are his wonders! his kingdom is an EVERLASTING kingdom, and his dominion is from generation to generation.
34
KJV:And at the end of the days I Nebuchadnezzar lifted up mine eyes unto heaven, and mine understanding returned unto me, and I blessed the most High, and I praised and honoured him that liveth for ever, whose dominion is an EVERLASTING dominion , and his kingdom is from generation to generation:"

*. 2 Peter 1 :11 "KJV:For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the EVERLASTING kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ ."

Now show me another being with such names.
I mean, an angel or a human being or anything else that has all these attributes.

FATHER/SON IS THE ROCK :

*. Deuteronomy 32:4 "KJV: He is THE ROCK , his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he." i e the Father

*. Deuteronomy 32:18 "KJV:Of THE ROCKS that begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee." i.e the Father

*. Romans 9:32 "KJV:As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and ROCK of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed." i.e the Son

*. 1 Corinthians 10:4 "
KJV:And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. " i.e the Son

2 Peter 2:11 = Luke 1:31-33 & 2 Samuel 7:13-16, Jesus was promised an everlasting kingdom through his ancestor, king David.

John 17:7 and Matthew 28:18 , Everything Jesus has today is a gift from whom?


Trinity GIBBERISH robbed una brain.
The scriptures have no meaning to you guys, 3 idols doghead worshippers.
Na wa ........!!

Emusan:


That means Jesus exists in eternity which then makes him God



Wahala for who know no scripture.



A creature was FASHIONED WITH YOUR god



You can continue to wail, the next thing is to run to Hebrew or Greek google



How about the false claim you and your lying brothers have made

JaNosense the lying liar like his father the devil

Why is Mr LIENUS worried about Greek & Hebrew the original languages of his Bible?
He loathes the truth in his Bible.

Proverbs 8:22-26
Yahweh created me, first-fruits of his fashioning, before the oldest of his works.

23 From everlasting, I was firmly set, from the beginning, before the earth came into being.

24 The deep was not, when I was born, nor were the springs with their abounding waters.

25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills, I came to birth;
26 before he had made the earth, the countryside, and the first elements of the world."


Mr LIENUS wedded to FALSEHOOD.

Barristter07:


He was made to be like his brother's, whom have sin in their flesh. Either he pick that nature which is the qualities of a person or he only took their form/Appearance.

I asked a simple question, when Adam hath not sinned, he hath flesh and blood without sin, was he an appearance?
Jesus was made in all things like his brethren, but that "all things" were explained in the previous verses to be his taken on flesh and blood and his suffering.

Hebrews 2:10-11, 14 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;




Hebrews 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

must be true.



Before that Future , he has no authority.

John 15 vv 16 said Jesus has the father's authority.

livingchrist:
I asked a simple question, when Adam hath not sinned, he hath flesh and blood without sin, was he an appearance?
Jesus was made in all things like his brethren, but that "all things" were explained in the previous verses to be his taken on flesh and blood and his suffering.

Hebrews 2:10-11, 14 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

Finally , you are able to understand the bold. That flesh and blood is what is referred to as Appearance. Learn to comprehend

Likewise Jesus is not like the Father in every way, He only exist in his FORM. That's the point of Philippians 2

FORM


" the visible shape or configuration of something. "
"the form, colour, and texture of the tree"
Similar:
shape
configuration
formation
conformation
structure
construction
arrangement
disposition
appearance
outward form/appearance
exterior
contours
lines
outline
silhouette
profile
design
format
cut
pattern
mould

2.
a particular way in which a thing exists or appears.

OXFORD DiCTIONARY

Hebrews 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.


John 15 vv 16 said Jesus has the father's authority.

You are a liar.

KNOWMORE56:


The word ONLY means NO OTHER... Jesus is the only begotten SON of God...

He possesses all the qualities of the only true God!

*. Hebrews 1:5 "KJV:For unto which of the angels said he at any time, THOU ART MY SON, THIS DAY HAVE I BEGOTTEN THEE ? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?"

*. John 3:16 "KJV:For God so loved the world, that he gave HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON , that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

You are complicating things for yourself. Begotten simply means produced. He was only begotten because he is the one The Father himself directly create, all other sons came through Jesus.

Jesus is still called " Son of God "

None among the sons of God is like Jehovah. Let it sink

KNOWMORE56:

*. John 16:14 "KJV:He shall glorify me: for he ( the Father ) shall receive of mine , and shall shew it unto you.
15
KJV: All things that the Father hath are mine : therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you."

*. John 17:10 "KJV:And ALL MINE ARE THINE, and THINE ARE MINE [b] ; and I am glorified in them."



The verses I gave say SPIRIT OF CHRIST... He (Jesus) has said I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE, ALL THAT THE FATHER HAS ARE MINE or ALL THAT I HAVE ARE HIS yet watch Tower devotees want to disprove Him!

The Father's spirit is the same as the Son's spirit:

*. Romans 8:9 "KJV: But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not [b] the Spirit of Christ [b], he is none of his.

*. Philippines 1:19 "KJV: For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the [b] Spirit of Jesus Christ, "

*. 1 peter 1:11
"10 KJV: Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
11
KJV: Searching what, or what manner of time THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

Note: apostle Peter says THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST was in all the prophets from Genesis to revelation!

Nobody dispute all this, The Father allowed Jesus access to his spirit. Yes even called spirit of Christ. But am talking about ownership


Acts 2:33
Therefore having been exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He has poured forth this which you both see and hear.

The Father owns it. And whatever Jesus do, he rely on this power of the Father. As seen at Act 2:33 The Father gave Jesus holy spirit.


I challenge you to show me a single place where Jesus gave the Father holy spirit ?

We don't have two or three images in the Word... the image of the Father is the same with the Son and the Holy Spirit!

*. Hebrews 1:3 "KJV:Who being the brightness of his glory, and THE EXPRESS IMAGE OF HIS PERSON , and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high"

Your thinking is flawed. Since the image is the same, it means everybody on Earth is chosen and declared righteous

Romans 8:29,30

" because those whom he gave his first recognition he also foreordained to be patterned after the image of his Son, so that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30 Moreover, those whom he foreordained are the ones he also called; and those whom he called are the ones he also declared to be righteous. Finally those whom he declared righteous are the ones he also glorified. "

Some of you just discuss blindly. Hebrew 1:3 didn't even say the same., It said " representation"

Janosky:


Why is Mr LIENUS worried about Greek & Hebrew the original languages of his Bible?
He loathes the truth in his Bible.

Proverbs 8:22-26
Yahweh created me, first-fruits of his fashioning, before the oldest of his works.

23 From everlasting, I was firmly set, from the beginning, before the earth came into being.

24 The deep was not, when I was born, nor were the springs with their abounding waters.

25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills, I came to birth;
26 before he had made the earth, the countryside, and the first elements of the world."


Mr LIENUS wedded to FALSEHOOD.

At least all you've proven for us here is that YAHWEH first created Wisdom and continue to carry out the remaining CREATIONS by Himself Isaiah 44:24 not through another agent

Severe pain for the lying liar JWs like his father the Devil the great JaNosense

KNOWMORE56:


The answer is simple... He is not one of them...!
He is to receive worship and no to give worship!

"
If your point was valid, you would accept he is not also among those in heaven, do you accept "


That verse you quoted says THERE'S NO MAN meaning THERE'S NO HUMAN BEING ... He wasn't there as human being that's why He was not counted:

*. Revelation 5:3 "KJV:And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon."

The other place says EVERY CREATURE... including the 4 beasts... I remember your DO ROCK AND--- HAVE MOUTH?

*. Revelations 5:13 "KJV:And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever."


From all eternity to all eternity I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE!

FATHER/SON IS FROM EVERLASTING TO EVERLASTING:
Psalm 90:2; 93:2; Proverbs 8:23; Isaiah 9: 6; 63:16; Jeremiah 10:10; Daniel 4:3,34; 2 Peter 1:11:

*. Daniel 4:3 "KJV:How great are his signs! and how mighty are his wonders! his kingdom is an EVERLASTING kingdom, and his dominion is from generation to generation.
34
KJV:And at the end of the days I Nebuchadnezzar lifted up mine eyes unto heaven, and mine understanding returned unto me, and I blessed the most High, and I praised and honoured him that liveth for ever, whose dominion is an EVERLASTING dominion , and his kingdom is from generation to generation:"

*. 2 Peter 1 :11 "KJV:For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the EVERLASTING kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ ."

Now show me another being with such names.
I mean, an angel or a human being or anything else that has all these attributes.

FATHER/SON IS THE ROCK :

*. Deuteronomy 32:4 "KJV: He is THE ROCK , his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he." i e the Father

*. Deuteronomy 32:18 "KJV:Of THE ROCKS that begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee." i.e the Father

*. Romans 9:32 "KJV:As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and ROCK of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed." i.e the Son

*. 1 Corinthians 10:4 "
KJV:And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. " i.e the Son

You are mistaken . At highlighted. KJV uses " no man" cos of the embarssment it might bring for people like you. This is the true meaning of the word


Strong's Concordance
oudeis and outheis, oudemia, ouden and outhen: no one, none
Original Word: οὐδείς, οὐδεμία, οὐδέν
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: oudeis and outheis, oudemia, ouden and outhen
Phonetic Spelling: (oo-dice')
Definition: no one, none
Usage: no one, none, nothing.

https://biblehub.com/greek/3762.htm


It means NO ONE , nothing like human being exist in the word. It simply means NOBODY

Once again, Do you accept Revelation 5:3 means Jesus is also not among those in heaven?