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Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Barristter07: 7:29pm On Sep 09, 2021 |
Emusan: Fetch it and bring it here. You fraudster, show me where I said command from heaven?
Image OF the invisible God - Col 1:15 " OF " means belonging to Jesus exist in someone else image . He is called son for a reason. And nobody is his own Son. Cos they never existed in his image Romans 8:29,30 again " because those whom he gave his first recognition he also foreordained to be patterned after the image of his Son, so that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30 Moreover, those whom he foreordained are the ones he also called; and those whom he called are the ones he also declared to be righteous. Finally those whom he declared righteous are the ones he also glorified. " All humans are called and declared righteous since they all exist in Jesus image ? You have serious thinking to do .
Someone " LIKE " a son of man It didn't say a son of man. It says " Like" . Ezekiel saw something similar in Ezekiel 1:26 , only an idiot would say that means God is human. Not human. The person is Divine. It's even impossible for an human to see God himself and remain alive. The point is clear , even in his Divine nature , Jesus doesn't have rulership or authority over any man until he came to earth and was given authority. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Emusan(m): 7:42pm On Sep 09, 2021 |
Barristter07: Lying liar, you can do that. Your lying mouth is always exposed. Image OF the invisible God - Col 1:15 Let "US" create man in "OUR" image. Was Jesus among that US & OUR? lying liar JWs like his father the devil Someone " LIKE " a son of man This is from the translation you quoted "and THEY brought him up CLOSE before that One..." Here are my questions again! So who are the "THEY" that brought Jesus CLOSE to Jehovah? Isn't Jesus the ONLY ONE WITH THE FATHER? Why must Jesus be brought to Jehovah when is the very One who close to Jehovah most? Wahala for the brainwashed JWs. |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by livingchrist: 7:54pm On Sep 09, 2021 |
Barristter07:what is this one saying? " rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. "You lack comprehension! I going to paste the image of the greek interlinear for all to see. Phil 2v7 says Christ took upon himself the nature of a servant haven be made in the form of a human. It does not mean human nature is the same as servant form but rather Christ assume the form after he was made a man meaning he was not a servant before unlike Angels who are already servants. So, barrister there is no way you are going to twist this. It is clear Jesus is Almighty God since he was never a servant until he became man. 2 Likes
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Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Barristter07: 8:02pm On Sep 09, 2021 |
Emusan: In short no such exist.
In our IMAGE , not images. It's a single image belonging to the invisible God. Image of Jesus is a future project by the Father , and only those called participate , Your foolish idea m and every human that ever lived was declared righteous and glorified. - Romans 8:29,30
The reason he was brought was stated right there , To be given authority which he doesn't have before! . The text said nothing about the identity of those who brought him , but it made it clear that Jesus wasn't human , He was " LIKE " son of man. Not son of man. This is what you fraudster can't stomach. Christ has no authority until he was permitted/given . Fact |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Barristter07: 8:08pm On Sep 09, 2021 |
livingchrist: Exception of sin by you means he doesn't have the inner qualities rather only their Form/Appearance That applies to Form of God. Appearance in which he existed , not inner qualities, no son of God is like Jehovah.
You are so misdirected The text is clear enough, Angels were never said to have the FORM of servant! Form of servant = Human Nature. The looks of men. No angel is given such tag . |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by livingchrist: 8:22pm On Sep 09, 2021 |
Barristter07:sin is not among the inner qualities that make Jesus brethren huma So sin is not equal to inner qualities. Keep denying the truth. Jesus was in the form of God phil 2vv7 The form is the nature of God, it is what make God Who he is. If Jesus was the form of God then he is the very God, unlike other gods that are called gods because they are placed in high position, Jesus is God because he possesses the full complete nature of God making him truly God. are so misdirectedI have caught you in your wiles already. Story, what you are saying is meaningless rubbish. All Angels are servants so says hebrews. Jesus on the other hand is Almighty God. |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 10:54pm On Sep 09, 2021 |
Emusan:#1 Emusan LIENUS is confused. His sentence is NOT coherent. JWs rejects Trinity GIBBERISH & won't propagate it. . A pagan Roman emperor rubber stamped the GIBBERISH DECEIVING you. Emusan:Mr LIENUS DECEIVING himself. Matthew 4:10, Jesus told Satan: Worship only Jehovah your God, him alone you shall SERVE" God is a "Him" , singular pronoun. Kindergarten pupils knows that. JWs SERVE & worship only Jehovah God, we follow Jesus instructions @ Matthew 4:10. Emusan: Emusan LIENUS is a Polytheist worshipping "THEY", 3 pagan deities. Despite the fact that you quoted Mounce Greek where it's written boldly "CRUCIFY HIM" you can still be calling it as your witness When you know the word CRUCIFY was derived from CRUX Secular history indeed! Emusan LIENUS arguing aimlessly. Did Emusan see Latin Crux in bill Mounce Greek interlinear of John 19:7? Emusan no get conscience. He lies like kilode. Emusan:Emusan read BBC News/ Washington Post screenshot proven the instrument of Jesus death was NEVER known as cross Emusan:Matthew 27:25,Acts 3:14-15, Acts 5:30, the Jews did. Emusan LIENUS & him Roman GIBBERISH Emusan: Did Mr Tsaferi tell Emusan the Romans executed Jesus on the cross? Emphatic no !!!!! Emusan: Emusan LIENUS is confused & wedded to FALSEHOOD. Joshua 10:26 = Deuteronomy 21:21-23 Joshua impaled the king of Ai on a Pole. Joshua also impaled 5 kings on a Pole. (Screenshot evidences) Emusan LIENUS shame on you !!
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Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 11:31pm On Sep 09, 2021 |
Emusan:To you, Emusan , is the "US" not your 3 persons deities? Emusan:Emusan claims the "US" is 3 persons, his 3 co equal Gods together. My question : Emusan is your holy ghost "THEY"? How many persons is your oly ghost? Emusan:Wahala for Trinity GIBBERISH. Questions for Emusan: #1 Since it's only your 3 co equal Gods together. Why is your oly ghost not close to JEHOVAH? #2 Why must Jesus be brought to JEHOVAH when your Jesus is co equal to JEHOVAH? #3 Job 2:1, Job 1:6,Job 38:7 is the only true God Jehovah living alone in heaven with his 2 co equal Gods? |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 11:51pm On Sep 09, 2021 |
livingchrist: Colossians 1:19, it pleases the Father to grant his son divine/ godlike nature. John 17:7 his Father gave it to his son. Humans will partake of divine/godlike nature in heaven too. Can't you see your logic faulty?. |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by DappaD: 1:33am On Sep 10, 2021 |
Janosky: Just mention 2Peter 1:4 and watch him crawl into a cave. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Nobody: 1:35am On Sep 10, 2021 |
DappaD:I think they mean human will become angels in heaven. And thats Godlike of course. Remember God said he created man in his likeness. 1 Like |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by DappaD: 1:43am On Sep 10, 2021 |
killALIEN: Oh don’t worry. Janosky knows who I’m referring to. |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:08am On Sep 10, 2021 |
Janosky: Brother, watch out for that moniker (Emusan) he's empty spiritually speaking, all he's trying to do is get you annoyed so as to engage you in hurtful words. Such a person only need that as proof that JWs aren't angels (they also do say hurtful things to people) So let him continue ranting, just give him the response (when necessary) but if not then allow him to continue talking to himself! I stopped responding to him and guess what? He felt so bad that he kept coming after me but just as i decided to chat with him again as a neighbour he quickly switch over to his real motive: insults! So i cut him off immediately! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by KNOWMORE56: 6:51am On Sep 10, 2021 |
Emusan: "...You've proven here that YAHWEH didn't use another creature to help Him rather YAHWEH ONLY created ALL THINGS BY HIMSELF..." I doubt if he is aware of it... 2 Likes |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 7:43am On Sep 10, 2021 |
KNOWMORE56: Hebrews 1:2 "God MADE the universe Through His son." I designed a motor car and built the components and I employed you,my son, to assemble it. 4 questions for KNOWMORE56: who made the motor car? who owns the motor car? Hebrews 1:2 God made what? Through whom? KNOWMORE56 knows GIBBERISH |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by KNOWMORE56: 7:46am On Sep 10, 2021 |
Janosky:Since He is the only Being created by the Father, and the speaker in Proverbs 8 says: Proverbs 8:26 "KJV: While as yet he had not made the earth [b], nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world. 27 KJV: When [b] he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth: 28 KJV: When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep: 29 KJV: When he gave to the sea his decree, [b/] that the waters should not pass his commandment: [b] when he appointed the foundations of the earth: Who is this He, is it Jesus speaking of the Father or another being speaking of Jesus, "the creator of all other things"?
What this your answer means is: While as yet He (the Father) had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world. 27 KJV: When He (the Father) prepared the heavens, I (Jesus) was there: When He (the Father) prepared the heavens, I (Jesus) was there: according to Janosky the Father was working and Jesus was watching! Do you understand? 2 Likes |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 8:39am On Sep 10, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Brother, watch out for that moniker (Emusan) he's empty spiritually speaking, all he's trying to do is get you annoyed so as to engage you in hurtful words. Such a person only need that as proof that JWs aren't angels (they also do say hurtful things to people)..........MaxInDHouse 1. Members of your religious organization and you are not angels. 2. They engage in hurtful words 3. They do hurtful things to other people even their fellow members and people outside of their religious organization. 4. The better performing group who have love joy peace amongst them goes under the bus in one swoop. He felt so bad that he kept coming after me but just as i decided to chat with him again as a neighbour he quickly switch over to his real motive: insults... MaxInDHouse 5. Kept coming back after I decided to chat with him like a neighbour. . Why do you disobey Jehovah when he says you should serve even Jesus?.... Emusan The post above was not meant for you but what did you do. Look below..... When you accuse anyone wrongly on my thread i'll correct your wrong impression!..... MaxInDHouse The reason he had to remind you again.... The hypocrite couldn't wait for his apology and evidence of being Ponzi scheme promoter today.... Emusan Smile.... Wasn't on this same thread you're avoiding my posts in a pretence of looking for apology and evidence Mr Ponzi scheme promoter?.... Emusan The funny aspect of the whole thing is that you will see the same MaxInDHouse coming back again to say let's discuss like CIVILIZED people or neighbours no insult or labels. STEPS OF HOW YOU(MAX) DISCUSS HERE ON NAIRALAND 1. Start discussions..............2. Go to insult.........3. Accuse others of insult..........4. Start repeating we are the only better performing group............5. Continue to repeat they are ashamed of their church........... 6. Stop chatting or discussion..........7. Comeback and say let's talk or discuss without insult........... 1. start discussion again and repeat the process continuously in the same order 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 10:54pm On Sep 10, 2021 |
KNOWMORE56:Does KNOWMORE56 understand Proverbs 8:30 ( in Screenshots)? Shebi Proverbs 8:22,30 is missing in your Bible? Bros, you have proven you're wedded to FALSEHOOD & Delusion. Cherry picker, your own Bible ends at Verse 27 1 Like
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Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Bishopkingsley(m): 3:20am On Sep 11, 2021 |
achorladey: I thought I was the only one who noticed this type of behavior What baffles me is the way all the JW refuse to accept that Jesus is their Savior Even though they can see it in the Bible It shocks me They interpret scripture in a wrong way too 1 Like |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:41am On Sep 11, 2021 |
I believe the OP has had enough of us in this thread i've got no business with any Apostate! |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by KNOWMORE56: 7:11am On Sep 11, 2021 |
Janosky: Components is in plural form. Which means it's not only one thing that was designed... the GB say only Jesus was created by the Father, ALL OTHER THINGS were then created by Jesus...
The person that the car manual points at... The person that the receipt points at... Hebrews 1:2God (Jesus) made all things.. *. John 1:1 "KJV:In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 KJV:The same was in the beginning with God. 3 KJV: All things were made by him ; and without him was not any thing made that was made." Through whom? Through God... *. Colossians 1:16 "KJV: For by him were all things created , that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, AND FOR HIM : " *. Romans 11:36 "KJV: For OF HIM, and THROUGH HIM , and TO HIM, are all things : to whom be glory for ever. Amen" my questions Aeroplane was invented BY Wright brothers 1. who invented the aeroplane using Wright brothers as channel? You guys have always stress BY/THROUGH... 2. if you employee someone to do a job for you, does that person take possession of the things he made? "...u]THROUGH HIM and TO HIM, " "...all things were created by him, AND FOR HIM : " |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:57am On Sep 11, 2021 |
Parents gives birth to children so the children relatively becomes their responsibility. Why is it that a parent will be arrested for taking the life of his own child? Since you can't undo what the Bible say about Jesus being the person through whom all other things were created. It's evident that someone greater than Jesus is our Grand Creator. If God's word now says all things were created through him and for him, it simply means God can stay alone without those other things and remain happy {1Timothy 1:11} but God wanted His son to be happy always that's why He taught him the work of creation for the Son to be happy always in the things he is able to make out of the great wisdom of his FATHER: Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him; Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men. Proverbs 8:30-31 It's evident that JEHOVAH created all other things through His only begotten Son for the Son to continue rejoicing in the things made! KNOWMORE56: |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 8:36am On Sep 11, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: It is the concept and image placed before them. The image placed before the is ORGANIZATION. What was used to make it appealing was putting JEHOVAH'S beside the word ORGANIZATION. That's the trick, before anyone of them can start to get a picture of what it is, he needs to detach the Jehovah from the organization. The organization of men is GOD is the image placed before them. That someone read one of their publications and state categorically that ORGANIZATION is GOD tells you the summary. Jehovah is their FATHER, ORGANIZATION of MEN is their MOTHER. Proverbs says do not despise the instructions of thy mother i.e the instructions of the men leading the organization which equates GOD as well. The equation becomes simple Since the father(JEHOVAH) is GOD, the mother(ORGANIZATION) too is also GOD. The reason they easily tell you, to get saved you have to join or become a member of their religious ORGANIZATION (WTBTS) because ORGANIZATION is GOD. It becomes easy because Jesus too is seen as a member of that organization because it is the organization that gives birth to JESUS which makes it easy to discard Jesus into a lesser role and in fact place him under the organization. The reason you see anyone who leaves the ORGANIZATION no matter how God the motive of such one is the person is called an APOSTATE, a person leading others to sin. A person that has left JEHOVAH. In their own of reality Jehovah is a property of the organization housed within the jurisdiction of the organization. Anything outside of the organization is BAD and not acceptable by Jehovah anything within the organization is GOOD and acceptable. Who decides what is good or bad is the organization not Jehovah. Reality for others outside of the organization says otherwise. |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 8:46am On Sep 11, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Is the Op an apostate? |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Bishopkingsley(m): 11:11am On Sep 11, 2021 |
achorladey: Is it charm or a strong delusions placed on them or is it stupidity that they can not see that there is no organization in the Bible How can someone trust a man more than God My church or pastor can not even open his mouth to say that rubbish because he knows no one will believe him how can they then believe that from an organization which changes their predictions like we change our Under wear 1 Like |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Bishopkingsley(m): 11:15am On Sep 11, 2021 |
achorladey: I was shocked the day that JW follower told me that JW organization is the everlasting father of the people on the earth I almost wanted to tear internet that day I wished I could appear to him that day and ask him to say it in my face lol I have never seen the blatant twisting of the word of God like this set of people do Well fortunately he has corrected himself on that area after I bombarded him with the real definition Then After we kept the pressure on them they said Jehovah is the Savior they refused to put organization then we laughed at that point immediately we all laughed they switch to Jehovah witness organization can save you for you to see how unstable their minds are 1 Like |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by livingchrist: 3:13pm On Sep 11, 2021 |
Janosky:@bold is a lie janosky, that is not what colossians 1:19 said. You are not ready to accept the truth. |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by livingchrist: 3:21pm On Sep 11, 2021 |
Barristter07:it does not, All things can be used in a restricted manner. That applies to Form of God. Appearance in which he existed , not inner qualities, no son of God is like Jehovah.what applies? Is flesh and blood a appearance? Is Adam an appearance? Until you answer these questions your submission will be dismissed. you are so misdirectedAngel's means servant so, hebrews said they servants. Keep repeating nonsense to yourself. |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by livingchrist: 3:25pm On Sep 11, 2021 |
Barristter07:You are a drawning man holding on straw. @ bolded you are not normal. Your Christ hating has lead to insanity. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Bishopkingsley(m): 3:27pm On Sep 11, 2021 |
livingchrist: Am still shocked at the way they hate Jesus to the teeth |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by livingchrist: 3:28pm On Sep 11, 2021 |
Barristter07:"in every way" the previous verses has made what that every way clear. you accept he has their inner evil qualities ?evil qualities does not make one human. The right context is Jesus was made in every way that made his brethren humans. called form of servant because humans are made lower than angels. For that position of servant to be valid. Are angels bigger than Jesus ?Nothing like that. |
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by livingchrist: 3:30pm On Sep 11, 2021 |
Barristter07:@ bolded you have already said it Jesus was not a servant which makes him Almighty God. Case closed |
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