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Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by AfroBeatDiary: 9:42am On Sep 15, 2021
Naso
Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by izubext007: 9:46am On Sep 15, 2021
How? He just spoke the truth.
Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by Mirawonder007(m): 9:46am On Sep 15, 2021
I concur,na the fear of enemies dey carry people to church nowadays nt the love of God
Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by Kajaard: 9:49am On Sep 15, 2021
Very true. I have to agree with Reno on this.

That's why we have such a huge population of gullible Christians everywhere.

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Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by Fakbrown: 9:49am On Sep 15, 2021
Very true, how person go Dae pray make light come, some pray for pipe born water, make government repair bad road, those where not supposed to be a prayer points, 90 percent of our prayer is centered on poverty

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Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by Adakintroy: 9:53am On Sep 15, 2021
Reno sometimes you too de childish. All this low resolution thinking is consistent with one that can barley see beyond "states".

Religion is how the poor man makes sense of his world. From a social science perspective everything is about social order. If there is prefered order enough, Who are you to judge the method via which a group arrive at it. Respect it. No society burn or kill witches than the whites in the mid centuries.

The Jesus he so mention teaching about wealth was a Carpenters son from Nazareth..so wetin he de talk?. if you want people to respect wealth then don't look down on their poverty. Praise them for having fortitude to manage such hard conditions. they are more stronger than you mentaliy, physically and spiritually..no be rake.

At individual level, "i go die" is a poor artist but no amount of education can produce the talent he manage from the getho. Poverty has a way and method it teaches. May be harsh but it what it is. I respect my journey. It's what it is.

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Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by Chiffy: 9:53am On Sep 15, 2021
insidelife22:
Religion is made for Africans,
one religion teaches people to kill for 72 virgins.

while the other is bent on making people poorer,while their religious leaders gets richer,buy private jets,build expensive schools that more than 70% of the donors can't afford to send their children to.

More than 90% even
Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by Ibkhaleel001: 9:55am On Sep 15, 2021
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Truthissupreme:
one religion teaches kill for 72 virgins

But no where in the other religion does it say give your resources to others if the people giving actually looked into their own books instead of allowing some interprete for them
[/s] shege polytheist trinitarian pagan hypocrite you have run away from my numerous challenges and you are here trying to twist facts


I'll expose you here also

Your bible teaches us to rape girls as young as 3years...we have it in the bible ...and virgins wrre also promised to Xtians in the Bible


Virgins in Matthew 19:29 says Christians will be given 100 wives to make love with:

"And every one that has forsaken houses, or brothers, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife (ἤ γυναῖκα), or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive a hundred times more, and shall inherit everlasting life."


Pulpit Commentary

Verse 29. - ....." Some manuscripts, followed by some modern editors, omit or wife, the omission being probably first made by some critical scribe, who deemed that a wife should never be left. The Lord enumerates the persons and objects upon which men's hearts are most commonly and firmly fixed. He begins and ends the list with material possessions - houses and lands, and between them introduces in gradation the most cherished members of the family circle. "Forsaking wife and children" may be understood as abstaining from marriage in order the better to serve God. For my Name's sake. In consequence of belief in Christ, rather than do despite to his grace, or in order to confess and follow him more completely........ 

An hundredfold. Some read "manifold," as in Luke 18:30. The spiritual relationship into which religion would introduce him largely compensates for the loss of earthly connections. He shall have brothers and sisters in the faith - hundreds who will show him the affection of father and mother, hundreds who will love him as well as wife and children. .......... The hope of future happiness is in itself sufficient to lighten and dissipate all earthly troubles, and to stimulate severest sacrifices."


This verse is a proof that the bible is altered according to scribes' own desires.

More and more we hear of ignorance from Christians like you who criticize Islam for claiming that Paradise will have physical pleasures in it similar to the ones that we have here on earth. 

Personally, I've heard cheap comments before about the 70 Houris for men in Heaven and how the Prophet, peace be upon him, "promised Hot desert men" sex in Paradise.

Bashing is easy, and believe me, nothing is easier than bashing the gospel of porn bible for claiming that women's vaginas and breasts taste like "wine", and that sisters can look lustfully at their biological brothers and wish to have sex with them in bed. 

Note:  The exact number of 70 Houris is not mentioned in the Noble Quran.  It is only mentioned in the Hadiths (collections of the Sayings of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him).  But Houris were mentioned in the Noble Quran.  So the number is most likely true, even though the Hadiths were collected centuries after the natural death of the Prophet. 

In other words, the possibility of the Hadith being corrupt (most of the Bible is mostly corrupt), is slim because the Noble Quran supports the narration by mentioning the Houris as shown.
Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by sean079: 9:56am On Sep 15, 2021
Well, poverty is just a minut fraction of the whole issue. It mostly has to do with security and safety of life and properties. Imagine in a second anything can just happened to you in Nigeria and you Lost everything from the boxer you put on to what you cherish most, family members.

Reason both very rich and very poor are in Nigeria churches praying day and nigth for protection and safety cos when there is life there is hope but in naija your life aint guaranty
Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by Bahamas95(m): 9:56am On Sep 15, 2021
He is 100% correct.

It's only in Nigeria you see people praying for NEPA to bring light among other annoying things they pray about. Basic amenities wey government go provide nai dem go take dey disturb God as if na only Nigeria get the God.

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Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by frankwyte: 9:57am On Sep 15, 2021
Just simple truth. This is chief reasons Pastors engage in show of affluence once they seem to arrive..
Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by ugotaya: 10:01am On Sep 15, 2021
A woman run M@d At D Airport Please Help Look For Her Family


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gpe_0__he8
Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by seunayantokun(m): 10:06am On Sep 15, 2021
After salvation through sincere faith in Christ Jesus is settled, there is a need to build up with sincere Word of God,.. looking unto Jesus, our perfect example and the author and finisher of our faith.

Unfortunately, many in Nigeria are fed with insufficient or poisoned bread. The result is empty religion or 'churchiness' which doesn't guarantee salvation or anything good here on earth and in heaven.

To a great extent, Reno is correct on this.

Life outside Christ is total darkness and separation from eternal bliss.

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Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by Truthissupreme: 10:08am On Sep 15, 2021
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Ibkhaleel001:
shege polytheist trinitarian pagan hypocrite you have run away from my numerous challenges and you are here trying to twist facts


I'll expose you here also

Your bible teaches us to rape girls as young as 3years...we have it in the bible ...and virgins wrre also promised to Xtians in the Bible


Virgins in Matthew 19:29 says Christians will be given 100 wives to make love with:

"And every one that has forsaken houses, or brothers, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife (ἤ γυναῖκα), or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive a hundred times more, and shall inherit everlasting life."


Pulpit Commentary

Verse 29. - ....." Some manuscripts, followed by some modern editors, omit or wife, the omission being probably first made by some critical scribe, who deemed that a wife should never be left. The Lord enumerates the persons and objects upon which men's hearts are most commonly and firmly fixed. He begins and ends the list with material possessions - houses and lands, and between them introduces in gradation the most cherished members of the family circle. "Forsaking wife and children" may be understood as abstaining from marriage in order the better to serve God. For my Name's sake. In consequence of belief in Christ, rather than do despite to his grace, or in order to confess and follow him more completely........ 

An hundredfold. Some read "manifold," as in Luke 18:30. The spiritual relationship into which religion would introduce him largely compensates for the loss of earthly connections. He shall have brothers and sisters in the faith - hundreds who will show him the affection of father and mother, hundreds who will love him as well as wife and children. .......... The hope of future happiness is in itself sufficient to lighten and dissipate all earthly troubles, and to stimulate severest sacrifices."


This verse is a proof that the bible is altered according to scribes' own desires.

More and more we hear of ignorance from Christians like you who criticize Islam for claiming that Paradise will have physical pleasures in it similar to the ones that we have here on earth. 

Personally, I've heard cheap comments before about the 70 Houris for men in Heaven and how the Prophet, peace be upon him, "promised Hot desert men" sex in Paradise.

Bashing is easy, and believe me, nothing is easier than bashing the gospel of porn bible for claiming that women's vaginas and breasts taste like "wine", and that sisters can look lustfully at their biological brothers and wish to have sex with them in bed. 

Note:  The exact number of 70 Houris is not mentioned in the Noble Quran.  It is only mentioned in the Hadiths (collections of the Sayings of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him).  But Houris were mentioned in the Noble Quran.  So the number is most likely true, even though the Hadiths were collected centuries after the natural death of the Prophet. 

In other words, the possibility of the Hadith being corrupt (most of the Bible is mostly corrupt), is slim because the Noble Quran supports the narration by mentioning the Houris as shown.
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cement head shame no dey catch you

After you finished fooling yourself yesterday you still have shame to quote me

If I take my precious time engage you now at the end you still would end up saying the Bible was changed in defeat yet you would agree with the ten commandments and everything the prophets wrote as from God yet God is dumb that he can't protect same book from been changed

If I follow you argue your corrupt Quran that says Moses and Mary have the same father you still would say allah knows best in defeat

The best na to allow you rant because the intellectual one decides for the dumb

Keep serving stone

I am a polytheist thank you I accept just as you are created a polytheist for having body, spirit, soul

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Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by Love55freas(m): 10:11am On Sep 15, 2021
foolish man
Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by Love55freas(m): 10:13am On Sep 15, 2021
the wickedness in Africa is too much
Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by Ibkhaleel001: 10:15am On Sep 15, 2021
Truthissupreme:
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cement head shame no dey catch you

After you finished fooling yourself yesterday you still have shame to quote me

If I take my precious time engage you now at the end you still would end up saying the Bible was changed in defeat yet you would agree with the ten commandments and everything the prophets wrote as from God yet God is dumb that he can't protect same book from been changed

If I follow you argue your corrupt Quran that says Moses and Mary have the same father you still would say allah knows best in defeat

The best na to allow you rant because the intellectual one decides for the dumb

Keep serving stone

I am a polytheist thank you I accept just as you are created a polytheist for having body, spirit, soul
All the aforementioned silly allegations you make have been dealt with with concrete facts and evidence!

They are ntn but delusional things which when i expose you... you'll realize how dumb and backward your sources of Polemics are...

Islam have triumph over xtianity for long...itnis you wicked shamefull pagans that are not aware....

The sources of your lies are expired ones...you cant use them anywhere expect hidden online in shame...

Xtianity is dead and burried!


Shamefull Christians were the source of some of the worst lies and distortions about Islam should come as no surprise, since Islam was its main "competitor" on the stage of World Religions. Far from honouring the commandment not to bear false witness against one's neighbour, Christians distortions and outright lies about Islam and Prophet Muhammad were widespread. Starting from John of Damascus to the modern day missionaries little has been changed as far as the content is concerned.

I am ready to will deal with any of your Propaganda of the Christian missionary polemics of the past and present.

If you are courageous enough kindly invite me to an open debate!!

And see how I'll show you pepper and disgrace your entire books
Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by FunkyJustice(m): 10:16am On Sep 15, 2021
True talk,.Boss!!
Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by silverx(m): 10:19am On Sep 15, 2021
Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by mu2sa2: 10:21am On Sep 15, 2021
Christians are being exceptionally honest by admitting the scam in Christianity.
Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by Truthissupreme: 10:21am On Sep 15, 2021
Ibkhaleel001:
All the aforementioned silly allegations you make have been dealt with with concrete facts and evidence!

They are ntn but delusional things which when i expose you... you'll realize how dumb and backward your sources of Polemics are...

Islam have triumph over xtianity for long...itnis you wicked shamefull pagans that are not aware....

The sources of your lies are expired ones...you cant use them anywhere expect hidden online in shame...

Xtianity is dead and burried!


Shamefull Christians were the source of some of the worst lies and distortions about Islam should come as no surprise, since Islam was its main "competitor" on the stage of World Religions. Far from honouring the commandment not to bear false witness against one's neighbour, Christians distortions and outright lies about Islam and Prophet Muhammad were widespread. Starting from John of Damascus to the modern day missionaries little has been changed as far as the content is concerned.

I am ready to will deal with any of your Propaganda of the Christian missionary polemics of the past and present.

If you are courageous enough kindly invite me to an open debate!!

And see how I'll show you pepper and disgrace your entire books
After all this rant christianity remains the biggest Religion in the world

Boy go and play catch up with Buddhist

I feel your pains grin

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Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by KaptainAfrika: 10:22am On Sep 15, 2021
Very true.
Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by WibusJaga: 10:23am On Sep 15, 2021

He is probably right but looks more like making mockery of religion & the poor.
So many people in life are passing through overwhelming challenges & it is not out of place to seek some comfort by getting close to your creator via religion.
Even the rich are faced with challenges too & also seek refuge in same religion.
The major criticism should go to religious leaders who exploit the often vulnerable members.

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Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by MrColdsweat: 10:24am On Sep 15, 2021
He's right.

That's why 95% Lord's chosen members are looking poor and unkempt.

They're all looking for miracles.

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Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by MrColdsweat: 10:26am On Sep 15, 2021
Ibkhaleel001:
All the aforementioned silly allegations you make have been dealt with with concrete facts and evidence!

They are ntn but delusional things which when i expose you... you'll realize how dumb and backward your sources of Polemics are...

Islam have triumph over xtianity for long...itnis you wicked shamefull pagans that are not aware....

The sources of your lies are expired ones...you cant use them anywhere expect hidden online in shame...

Xtianity is dead and burried!


Shamefull Christians were the source of some of the worst lies and distortions about Islam should come as no surprise, since Islam was its main "competitor" on the stage of World Religions. Far from honouring the commandment not to bear false witness against one's neighbour, Christians distortions and outright lies about Islam and Prophet Muhammad were widespread. Starting from John of Damascus to the modern day missionaries little has been changed as far as the content is concerned.

I am ready to will deal with any of your Propaganda of the Christian missionary polemics of the past and present.

If you are courageous enough kindly invite me to an open debate!!

And see how I'll show you pepper and disgrace your entire books

Why are you Muslims so obsessed with Christians?

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Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by stancydg: 10:26am On Sep 15, 2021
Still so hard for folks to distinguish between Christianity and religion. Topic for another day.

To the discourse, humans were created for God's pleasure and purposes and will forever have that natural inclination to worship Him and contrary to what Mr. Reno has posited, many folks find it a lot easier to worship God, attend services, participate in church activities, when they're a lot comfortable financially and have less to worry about. It's my experience that when the credit alerts increase and bills get settled without stress, I am easily able to create time to attend extra church programs, because of the reduced hustling time. Majority of folks who attend church services these days are very comfortable financially. There was never a boom in church attendance in the days when the saying; "as poor as a church rat" prevailed. The attendance boom came with the prosperity insights and experience of today's glorious church.

That said, poverty is what actually drives people away from worshipping God as they tend to seek other means to overcome it. An hungry man will hardly be able to observe morning devotions talk more of the fare and other expenses of attending church services. Poor folks are even scared of offering time during services. The church has been doing a great job especially in Africa, giving people hope, changing their lots through spiritual principles that deliver them from poverty, hence doing what most African Government's have been unable to do. The continued triumphs of the church in Africa is the only reason the continent isn't up in flames right now. You may say there's so much corruption but if not for messages from the altar of God, changing people's attitudes, it would have spiralled out of control. The folks who travel out and forget God isn't because they're more comfortable, it's more often than not because they're working 2/3 jobs to keep up with being second class citizens in a foreign land, where bills must be settled to continue to enjoy infrastructure provided by the Government.

Lakewood church, The Potter's House and many other churches in the US are megachurches populated by vibrant young and rich folks.

So, next time you're looking to blame anything, blame your governments.

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Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by kingxsamz(m): 10:30am On Sep 15, 2021
Lol, most Christians in Nigeria don't really give a fvck about their god or really care enough to follow the commandments of the Christian doctrine. Most of them do things which are forbidden in Christianity on a daily basis.
But because they have problems they'd like to be solved, issues they want to clear and money they'd want to have, you'll see them praying, going to church and paying tithes and all that. In reality, they don't follow their doctrines. Take them abroad where 90% of their problems are solved and they'll become less religious, or care less about going to church. Na poverty dey make people open 12 churches for one street.

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Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by mu2sa2: 10:30am On Sep 15, 2021
Truthissupreme:
After all this rant christianity remains the biggest Religion in the world

Boy go and play catch up with Buddhist

I feel your pains grin
Which of the christianities? There thousands of christianities, each claiming to be in the right path and condemning others as heretic. To Catholics Jesus established only one church - there's of course. Anointed Chris okotie and indeed Pentecostals on their part say Catholics are hell bound.
Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by Temmywalex: 10:31am On Sep 15, 2021
The truth and nothing but the truth.
Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by skylane: 10:32am On Sep 15, 2021
SultanYoung:
One of the few Truth that is bitter to the blind followers.

Just watch how righteousness2 will call oga Reno an Anti Christ
how do you guys enjoy trading naira account
Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by Ibkhaleel001: 10:36am On Sep 15, 2021
MrColdsweat:


Why are you Muslims so obsessed with Christians?
Have you ever seen a Muslim bumb into a Christian article and insult you or Jesus?

Do any Muslim care about your existence or satanic way?NO

"Muslims are terrible", they claim. "Muslims are terrorists" But I bet you, if you click the reaction to any bad symphatetic news report online, you will not find one Muslim reacting with a laughing emoji.
They are happy that terrorism and killings are taking place in the country they are happy that police officers are killed. They always showcase their attitudes of lack of manners and home training. These same people will on the next trend claim Islam is a religion of violence and Muslims are violent.
When you curse a person, the curse goes up to the heavens and return to you if the person is undeserving of it.

All the insults on Prophet Muhammad,(PBUH) the Muslim community received during the Boko Haram insurgency has gone up to the heavens and came back to those who cursed us and they have all gone mad.

3-4 year's ago, nobody would have thought that some people in the South-East would take up arms and start mindlessly killing people, cutting off heads and then come on social media to celebrate and laugh over it.

During the EndSARS uprising of fools, police officers were killed in the South, but in the East, they did not just kill officers, most of the ones they killed they mutilated and decapitated them thereafter. The only thing they did not do was to roast and eat them like the Sallah day massacre in Plateau in 2011 when some Plateau youths attacked worshippers on Eid day, killed, roasted and eat the dead bodies. It's just a matter of time, they will start eating the dead bodies of their victims as the curse spreads.

It does not matter your grievances with a person or a people, if evil befalls them you cannot afford to be happy about it. To be happy for evil makes you evil. I can say I hate the "State of Israel" because I consider it a racist and apartheid entity, but if calamity befalls its citizens, I can not be happy. Your hate should be measured.

Boko Haram became the monster it is not because Muslim scholars did not denounce their ideology, they did and some were killed for doing that.

The ideology of hate and bigotry in the South East is there mostly because Christian leaders in the country encouraged it with their anti-North and anti-Muslim sermons and conspiracy theories.
If this post offends you, I am sorry that is not my intention. If you are still angry after the apology, then I can not help you.
Re: Poverty Is Why Many People Are Religious And Churchy - Reno Omokri by TemmyT002(m): 10:40am On Sep 15, 2021
Nahhh
Rich people are actually the ones that make the donations that make all those big churches big.
No be by poverty alone.

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