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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 9:28am On Sep 20, 2021
Against low blocks, pogba seems quite useless in that LW position, we should stop sacrificing our width to accommodate pogba and Bruno.
Either drop Pogba grin, or put him in the pivot.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BikeMan: 9:30am On Sep 20, 2021
afrodoc2:
Can you explain how we won't consider quality of leagues when UEFA itself uses coefficients to award Golden Shoe?

And how won't age matter? You think 34 to 36 na child's play? Ronaldo that lost his long distance speed over the last 2 years? Na only movement and 5-10 yard acceleration remain for bros, after 10 yards bros fuel dey finish like careless kabukabu driver. cheesy
Is 37 year old Silva not 100 times better than 29 year old Magwaya. What is this age excuse? Lewandoski Noh better Ice Cold Martial?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Trevor012(m): 9:33am On Sep 20, 2021
De gea appreciation yesterday putting his haters in the mud cheesy

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BikeMan: 9:34am On Sep 20, 2021
CapitalCee:
Is easy na. Put Assnal in Ligue 1 they will win domestic treble
You people say these but when your English teams meet them in Europe, they flog you. Every other League is a Farmer's League but you can't beat them when you meet them. LMAO!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Trevor012(m): 9:35am On Sep 20, 2021
Brilliant tactical substitution yesterday from genius Ole to bring in Matic and Lingard.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 9:38am On Sep 20, 2021
KingAlabi:
With tight games coming up

I feel we should win our next 4 games since they are all at old Trafford, the tricky ones for me are westham in the EPL cup and Villarreal.

Villarreal are currently hard to score against conceding just twice in their opening 4 league games, that might change in the coming weeks though.
I dey always gbadun your optimism. cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:54am On Sep 20, 2021
afrodoc2:
A league is 6th best in coefficients because of the performance of its teams in Europe but somehow we are to believe that the teams are on the same level as the teams in the 1st placed league. grin
You see why to argue some things dey tiring grin

How do we begin to explain what is so clear? grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m):
patrickmuf:
Why Ronaldo no finish those Lyon defenders when he came up against them for Juve?
That was a one off game, Ronaldo was Serie A top scorer last season. This debate might again raise the question of Messi not doing well outside Barcelona. It is still early days sha, but if it was Messi doing well and Ronaldo struggling, Messi fans would have been all over twitter mocking the GOAT... So for now:
Ronaldo - 4
Messi - 0
cool
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:56am On Sep 20, 2021
Bombblacks:
The two people you don't troll or doubt in world football due to performance are Ronaldo and Messi.
They called the GOAT ‘Tapinaldo’.. who knew scoring tap-ins will be so hard? grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:01am On Sep 20, 2021
afrodoc2:
I don’t like Maguire like that. Too slow for my liking.

Marquinhos, Varane, Shaw, Hakimi high line will be tasty.
Out of Messi, Ronaldo, Bruno the person you want to drop is Ronaldo? cheesy


Well done.
Patrick wants to drop the most reliable player on the team just to prove a point cheesy grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 10:09am On Sep 20, 2021
GloryIsaac:
Patrick wants to drop the most reliable player on the team just to prove a point cheesy grin grin
I had to just give him props after he said Ligue 1 defenders were equal to EPL defenders. cheesy

Even though his name is Patrick he is obviously not a strong Christian. cheesy

The guy is was stressing that “name combined 11”, “name combined 11” thinking it would show that United had better players, forgetting that while our attack (our strongest department) is filled with stars and one GOUT, PSG has extra-terrestrials and a GOUT in their attack.

That is why after I named my 11 he was in shock and said he would wait for other lists. cheesy
Imagine after claiming that Ronaldo was playing with better players you combine both teams and find out that Messi has 6 starters while Ronaldo has only 3 starters. cheesy

E choke. grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:11am On Sep 20, 2021
Bruno did well yesterday, a much improved all round performance even though he tired out out towards the end of the game.

Playing Pogba from the left didn't work because Pogba was not disciplined enough to stay wide, he was always drifting towards the center of the pitch because quite simply, it's the nature of his game, he wants to be on the ball most times so, he could stay wide and without the ball...I think it's time for Ole to make a decision, it's either he takes the risk to play McTom alone at the base with Pogba and Bruno ahead of him as LCM and RCM respectively...With this change, we won't need an out and out AM.

Also, I notice Sancho wants to play those 1-2 intricate passes but others are not in sync. I think VDB and Martial are players that will do well with Sancho on the pitch...

As for our next game, I hope to see Ole give those bench players a chance to show what they can offer. Henderson should start if fit.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 10:13am On Sep 20, 2021
Patrick you asked me to name my combined 11 but you haven’t named your own o. Please let’s see your own list.

Also I have my own question for you.

Can you name (in your view) the top 11 central defenders that Ronaldo will face in the EPL and the top 11 central defenders Messi will face in Ligue 1?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:16am On Sep 20, 2021
afrodoc2:
I had to just give him props after he said Ligue 1 defenders were equal to EPL defenders. cheesy

Even though his name is Patrick he is obviously not a strong Christian. cheesy

The guy is was stressing that “name combined 11”, “name combined 11” thinking it would show that United had better players, forgetting that while our attack (our strongest department) is filled with stars and one GOUT, PSG has extra-terrestrials and a GOUT in their attack.

That is why after I named my 11 he was in shock and said he would wait for other lists. cheesy
Imagine after claiming that Ronaldo was playing with better players you combine both teams and find out that Messi has 6 starters while Ronaldo has only 3 starters. cheesy

E choke. grin
That's your pick, another person will have Maguire and Bruno Starting...It's down to your preferences. The bottom line is that we also have a lot of quality players and good options to call from the bench in our set up so, the idea of Messi playing with top players is true for Ronaldo too...

If we had a good coach, a lot of people will have us rated higher.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 10:20am On Sep 20, 2021
patrickmuf:
That's your pick, another person will have Maguire and Bruno Starting...It's down to your preferences. The bottom line is that we also have a lot of quality players and good options to call from the bench in our set up so, the idea of Messi playing with top players is true for Ronaldo too...

If we had a good coach, a lot of people will have us rated higher.
Oga, name your 11. When you were following me around like a creditor asking me to name my 11 you didn’t give or accept all this shalaye. grin

After you can then answer my question.
Your top 11 central defenders in Ligue 1 and your top 11 central defenders in EPL.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:26am On Sep 20, 2021
afrodoc2:
Patrick you asked me to name my combined 11 but you haven’t named your own o. Please let’s see your own list.

Also I have my own question for you.

Can you name (in your view) the top 11 central defenders that Ronaldo will face in the EPL and the top 11 central defenders Messi will face in Ligue 1?
The back and forth is counter productive, if Ligue 1 had farmers for defenders, Mbappe would have been scoring over 40 goals per season after all he also plays in that same PSG set up.

The reason why I asked for the combined 11 is to highlight that we too have a lot of quality players...

If we sampled the opinions of folks about a lot of Chelsea players whilst Lampard was coach, I am certain very few persons will say anything good of Rudiger and Alonso. At was point it was as if Azpi was done at the top level and Kante was past it but look at them now. If we had Tuchel rather than Ole, Sancho will most likely be tearing up the league, VDB and a host of our players will play to their true potentials leading to pundits rating us very highly but that's not the case now so it looks like we don't have a very good team when it's not really the case.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 10:30am On Sep 20, 2021
patrickmuf:
The back and forth is counter productive, if Ligue 1 had farmers for defenders, Mbappe would have been scoring over 40 goals per season after all he also plays in that same PSG set up.

The reason why I asked for the combined 11 is to highlight that we too have a lot of quality players...

If we sampled the opinions of folks about a lot of Chelsea players whilst Lampard was coach, I am certain very few persons will say anything good of Rudiger and Alonso. At was point it was as if Azpi was done at the top level and Kante was past it but look at them now. If we had Tuchel rather than Ole, Sancho will most likely be tearing up the league, VDB and a host of our players will play to their true potentials leading to pundits rating us very highly but that's not the case now so it looks like we don't have a very good team when it's not really the case.
Name your combined 11. Me too i want to highlight something. grin

The question was not whether we have quality players because even Everton has quality players. You were the one that brought story of combined 11 in order to compare first 11s.

It takes 25.69473 seconds less to name your combined 11 compared to typing all the shalaye you typed above. grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 10:31am On Sep 20, 2021
This Oga Patrick wants to turn it into an Amaka debate. cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m):
afrodoc2:
Patrick you asked me to name my combined 11 but you haven’t named your own o. Please let’s see your own list.

Also I have my own question for you.

Can you name (in your view) the top 11 central defenders that Ronaldo will face in the EPL and the top 11 central defenders Messi will face in Ligue 1?
..........................Donnarumma............................

Hakimi.......Varane............Maguire.......Shaw......

..................................Gueye....................................

...................Bruno.................Pogba.......................

Messi......................Mbappe.....................Neymar

I can possibly swap Donnarumma for De Gea and Mbappe for Ronaldo...

As for the 11 defenders, I do not follow Ligue 1 religiously but from facts on ground, they are not farmers as you try to paint them.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 10:42am On Sep 20, 2021
patrickmuf:
..........................Donnarumma............................

Hakimi.......Varane............Maguire.......Shaw......

..................................Gueye....................................

...................Bruno.................Pogba.......................

Messi......................Mbappe.....................Neymar

I can possibly swap Donnarumma for De Gea and Mbappe for Ronaldo...

As for the 11 defenders, I do not follow Ligue 1 religiously but from facts on ground, they are not farmers are you try to paint them.
Your list is not bad.

So you can’t name these world class defenders in Ligue 1? grin

Okay let’s make it easier.
Name 5 quality international grade central defenders in both leagues (apart from United and PSG defenders).
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Skimpledawg(m): 10:52am On Sep 20, 2021
Bombblacks:
The two people you don't troll or doubt in world football due to performance are Ronaldo and Messi.
Your head is blessed mehn
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:02am On Sep 20, 2021
afrodoc2:
Your list is not bad.

So you can’t name these world class defenders in Ligue 1? grin

Okay let’s make it easier.
Name 5 quality international grade central defenders in both leagues (apart from United and PSG defenders).
I could easily mention defenders from Monaco, Marseille and Lyon at least I watch them when they play PSG but you will latch onto the bolded...

The goal stats for each Ligue 1 season should point to the fact that their defenders are not that bad. Moreso, that league churns out some of the finest DM who also help in shielding the defense...

In summary, while they may be relatively unknown, they are not farmers neither are they grossly inferior to their peers in more popular leagues...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by monerozi5590: 11:16am On Sep 20, 2021
patrickmuf:
..........................Donnarumma............................

Hakimi.......Varane............Maguire.......Shaw......

..................................Gueye....................................

...................Bruno.................Pogba.......................

Messi......................Mbappe.....................Neymar

I can possibly swap Donnarumma for De Gea and Mbappe for Ronaldo...

As for the 11 defenders, I do not follow Ligue 1 religiously but from facts on ground, they are not farmers are you try to paint them.
I noticed both you and afrodoc2 didn't include Verrati in your combine 11
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:18am On Sep 20, 2021
monerozi5590:
I noticed both you and afrodoc2 didn't include Verrati in your combine 11
Pogba does his job and is the better forward passer...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 11:23am On Sep 20, 2021
patrickmuf:
Bruno did well yesterday, a much improved all round performance even though he tired out out towards the end of the game.

Playing Pogba from the left didn't work because Pogba was not disciplined enough to stay wide, he was always drifting towards the center of the pitch because quite simply, it's the nature of his game, he wants to be on the ball most times so, he could stay wide and without the ball...I think it's time for Ole to make a decision, it's either he takes the risk to play McTom alone at the base with Pogba and Bruno ahead of him as LCM and RCM respectively...With this change, we won't need an out and out AM.

Also, I notice Sancho wants to play those 1-2 intricate passes but others are not in sync. I think VDB and Martial are players that will do well with Sancho on the pitch...

As for our next game, I hope to see Ole give those bench players a chance to show what they can offer. Henderson should start if fit.
Uhmmm, except na Carabao cup Henderson should not near that Goal post for now.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by kushercain: 11:25am On Sep 20, 2021
patrickmuf:
Watery? Ibra, Cavani, Mbappe, Neymar and other top strikers have graced the Ligue 1 but haven't managed to score up to 40 league goals for once something Ronaldo and Messi did in LA Liga, does it mean La Liga defenders are shit especially when you co spider that Barcelona and Madrid had far superior teams?
But Ibra cavani neymar and co are not Messi and Ronaldo and are in the GOAT debate. If Messi doesnt do 40 goals then in your own words he will be considered a failure, capisce?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 11:28am On Sep 20, 2021
patrickmuf:
I could easily mention defenders from Monaco, Marseille and Lyon at least I watch them when they play PSG but you will latch onto the bolded...

The goal stats for each Ligue 1 season should point to the fact that their defenders are not that bad. Moreso, that league churns out some of the finest DM who also help in shielding the defense...

In summary, while they may be relatively unknown, they are not farmers neither are they grossly inferior to their peers in more popular leagues...


You already said Ligue 1 defenders are generally equal to EPL defenders. That is all i needed. cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheLequte: 11:33am On Sep 20, 2021
Bombblacks:
That's what makes City so deadly and why they are the top contenders followed by Liverpool. City can come back and steam roll the premier league like they did last season. Unlike the rest teams, when city gets into rhythm they are very very difficult to stop, even if they are beaten they will still steamroll another team the next weekend, and that is why pep is so dominant.
Totally true. Even if he suffers a blip one weekend thr next weekend he’s tearing another team 5-0.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:34am On Sep 20, 2021
elrony:
Uhmmm, except na Carabao cup Henderson should not near that Goal post for now.
I think it's Caraboa Cup...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 11:35am On Sep 20, 2021
patrickmuf:
I think it's Caraboa Cup...
Well and fine, he should start
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 11:36am On Sep 20, 2021
KingAlabi:
Against low blocks, pogba seems quite useless in that LW position, we should stop sacrificing our width to accommodate pogba and Bruno.
Either drop Pogba grin, or put him in the pivot.
Low block or not, Pogba was just poor. If he's playing well it doesnt matter if its a low block. He can play against any type of team set up. Shaw does a good job providing width.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 11:36am On Sep 20, 2021
Trevor012:
Brilliant tactical substitution yesterday from genius Ole to bring in Matic and Lingard.
cheesy cheesy cheesy

Tactical indeed. Baba, everything na cruise jare. Ole is anywhere belle face.
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