afrodoc2:



Can you explain how we won't consider quality of leagues when UEFA itself uses coefficients to award Golden Shoe?

And how won't age matter? You think 34 to 36 na child's play? Ronaldo that lost his long distance speed over the last 2 years? Na only movement and 5-10 yard acceleration remain for bros, after 10 yards bros fuel dey finish like careless kabukabu driver.

CapitalCee:
Messi is low key struggling in farmers league with world class players while Ronaldo is smashing it in EPL. I like Messi but if this trend continues i know who the GOAT will be

patrickmuf:
Going by that coefficient, is a goal scored in France any less than that scored in England?

The fact that Messi who is 2 years younger has a better goal to game ratio points to his superiority...Imagine if they were mates, he for dey pass Ronaldo by at least 100 goals...

Joezinho:


. Sometimes i feel spurs were not wrong to sack him. He was never the right fit for Spurs.

Mourinho is a winner and Spurs are losers. It was never going to work...

As for ole Gollum the cursed failure , he won't win teaspoon..

afrodoc2:
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Are you sure you want to go the goal to game ratio route?

Are you saying goal to game ratio is the decider over who is the GOAT?
I just want to be sure i understand you well.

CapitalCee:
Messi is low key struggling in farmers league with world class players while Ronaldo is smashing it in EPL. I like Messi but if this trend continues i know who the GOAT will be

patrickmuf:
We are talking about the both players here, Messi best him in goals scored per game, assist, chances created, dribbles etc...

Messi is 2 years younger...

patrickmuf:
If I ask for a combined 11 of PSG and Manchester United, na that time you go start to hear different talk...

afrodoc2:


Are you saying goals per game ratio is the decider in the GOAT debate?

We can't use in deciding between Player A and Player B, then discard it when Players C, D, E, and F are included?
You know what is good for the Jew is good for Uganda.

Na simple sturvs question.

afrodoc2:


It is when i ask you to name the quality defenders and goal keepers Messi is facing in Ligue 1 that we will hear another story. Shey na defenders wey Pepe dey bully up and down?

patrickmuf:
Goals, assist and chances created for forward players...

patrickmuf:
Same defenders wey Ronaldo no fit bully for UCL, same defenders wey City with their super attack no fit bully...Yes, those same defenders...

Joezinho:
Ronaldo in the toughest league -- 4 GOALS..

Messi in the 5th ranked league -- 1 shot wey knack bar..

afrodoc2:


I see you have started retracing your steps like the Oba in village headmaster.

So it is no longer goals per game ratio?

afrodoc2:


You mean Messi is facing PSG defenders in Ligue 1?

afrodoc2:


It is when i ask you to name the quality defenders and goal keepers Messi is facing in Ligue 1 that we will hear another story. Shey na defenders wey Pepe dey bully up and down?

patrickmuf:
When he had that debate weeks back, I said the same thing...I only brought up goals per game ratio to highlight a point...

Meanwhile, let me see your combined 11 of PSG and Manchester United players, I want to check if Messi is playing with stars and Ronaldo is having to do it all on his own.

TrebleChamp:
Plus Lacazette

Bombblacks:

The key for me was the Matic Sub. That pass is underrated. He was the one with a delicious pass thru the lines into Lingard in a dangerous position. That was the sub along with Lingard obviously that won us the game.

afrodoc2:


If i arrange all the ex-players on this thread we will make Top 4 in Ligue 1.

The quality of players you are playing with has to be compared with the quality of players you are playing against.

Without google can you name 4 good central defenders in Ligue 1 apart from PSG defenders.

patrickmuf:
He is facing Monaco and Lyon defenders...

patrickmuf:
PSG were in pot 2 in the UCL because they didn't win that league last season...If PSG were that good, Lille wouldn't have won the league ahead of them...

afrodoc2:


Every week?

Okay. The average team has 3-4 central defenders. Combine Monaco and Lyon's teams to make 8 central defenders. Name 3 quality international central defenders in both teams combined.
These 2 teams that are Messi's nemesis weekly can you name their best defenders?

afrodoc2:



To avoid confusion, are you saying the defenders in Ligue 1 are better than the defenders in EPL, or are they equal to the ones in EPL or are they worse?

I just want both of us to be on the same page.

patrickmuf:
Doc, just dropped the combined 11 of PSG and Manchester United, it is easier than looking for ex players to form a team...

afrodoc2:



The quality of players you are playing with has to be compared with the quality of players you are playing against.

patrickmuf:
Messi has made just 2 appearances for PSG in Ligue 1, a sub appearance vs Reims and his first start yesterday...If this was December, I'd be concerned but not now, he will still dominate that League like he did in Spain...

Joezinho:
Ronaldo in the toughest league -- 4 GOALS..

Messi in the 5th ranked league -- 1 shot wey knack bar..

patrickmuf:
When the tables turn, I no want hear say Ligue 1 easy o!

afrodoc2:




I hope you understand what that means?

Okay let me make you happy.

Combined 11:

GK: Donnarumma
RB: Hakimi
LB: Shaw
CB: Varane
CB: Marquinhos
CDM: Idrissa Gueye
CM: Pogba
CAM/SS: Messi
RWF: Mbappe
LWF: Neymar
CF: Ronaldo