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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:20pm On Sep 20, 2021
Illimitable:
Ligue 1 isn’t far behind from PL. The only thing PL has over Ligue 1 apart from money is hype. We should stop pretending that we haven’t seen direct transfers from Ligue 1 coming to boss the overhyped PL.

Eden Hazard, Riyadh Mahrez, Ngolo Kante, etc all came from the so called Farmer’s league to win PFA player of the year in the overhyped PL back to back without sweats.

Salah also came straight from Serie A(another so called farmer’s league) to dog-walk the overhyped PL defenders. There’s also Ruben Dias that came straight from Portuguese league and he won player of the season. Bruno Fernandes from the same farmer’s league is also bossing PL defenders - and he should have won the last PFA awards.

PL is 70% footballing ability, 30% media hype. Just try and watch the Euro final again and see how Italian players from the so called farmer’s league totally destroyed the overhyped PL players.
When you read about the EPL, you'd think they're about the best in the world but all of it is down to very good marketing...

I have said it here before that I watch City in the UCL and they hardly dominate European teams like they do EPL teams but people won't stop over hyping the league...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:32pm On Sep 20, 2021
afrodoc2:
Zlatan dropped from 38 goals in Ligue 1 to 17 goals in EPL next season. Discuss

Using not more than 250 words explain how Lacazette dropped from 28 goals in Ligue 1 to 14 goals the next season in EPL.

Using diagrams and audiovisual illustration, explain how Mbappe is averaging practically a goal a game in Ligue 1 despite playing only just above half of the matches as CF?

Without asking Ifa, Orunmila, or Delphic oracle can you explain how Falcao averaged 0.6 goals per game in Ligue 1 but 0.14 goals per game in EPL?

a) With the help of google can you tell us how many Ligue 1 teams have ever won the Champions League?
b) Calculate the ratio of this to the number of EPL teams that have won the
Champions League.
c) Finally using all mighty formula can you tell us the degree of blame to be apportioned to Ligue 1 defenders for the result of b above.
Where is your empathy and sympathy as medical doctor?

You're not a nice Doctor at all.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:37pm On Sep 20, 2021
Illimitable:
Look at the match stats.

The score line flattered England. It made it seem like a tough game. The truth is the Italians destroyed England with number of shots, possession, passing accuracy, etc.

Most of them play in the farmer’s league - it got me wondering how the overhyped PL players could only make 420 passes in 120 minutes in comparison to the 820 passes from the Italians.

If Football was like wrestling, the referee would have stopped the match. English players took a jungle justice sort of beating. They were totally destroyed.
It's more about Southgates tactiks and setup than the players actually. Swap the managers and the story changes.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:40pm On Sep 20, 2021
handelex:
It's more about Southgates tactiks and setup than the players actually. Swap the managers and the story changes.
English players are overhyped, it's no news...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 2:46pm On Sep 20, 2021
handelex:
Where is your empathy and sympathy as medical doctor?

You're not a nice Doctor at all.
grin I just had to clear his doubt.
My French teacher is 100 years old and has been watching football ever since the days of European Cup in the 1950s before Nigerian independence.
He told me that only ONE underhyped Ligue 1 team has ever won the title in over 60yrs but overhyped English teams have won 14 times.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:49pm On Sep 20, 2021
patrickmuf:
English players are overhyped, it's no news...
That's true but that squad had tremendous quality all round except you want to deny that.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:49pm On Sep 20, 2021
afrodoc2:
grin I just had to clear his doubt.
My French teacher is 100 years old and has been watching football ever since the days of European Cup in the 1950s before Nigerian independence.
He told me that only ONE underhyped Ligue 1 team has ever won the title in over 60yrs but overhyped English teams have won 14 times.
E be things.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:56pm On Sep 20, 2021
handelex:
That's true but that squad had tremendous quality all round except you want to deny that.
They had a team good enough to match Italy on paper but on the pitch, they we saw the difference. It's mostly been so for the Three Lions heading into an international competition and most times, the coach takes the fall but away from that, isn't it time we started questioning the players?

I really thought that for once England have a team filled with players who are comfortable on the ball but once they came up against top opponents, they relied more on their athleticism rather than their technical ability which seems to be there in this present crop...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:59pm On Sep 20, 2021
Doc leave history, the EPL is not far ahead of the French Ligue 1 and the players there are not farmers...

We might never agree on this one so, let's just leave it here...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:01pm On Sep 20, 2021
patrickmuf:
Doc leave history, the EPL is not far ahead of the French Ligue 1 and the players there are not farmers...

We might never agree on this one so, let's just leave it here...
You still haven't told me the 5-11 quality international grade central defenders in the Ligue 1 that Messi has to face.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:01pm On Sep 20, 2021
patrickmuf:
They had a team good enough to match Italy on paper but on the pitch, they we saw the difference. It's mostly been so for the Three Lions heading into an international competition and most times, the coach takes the fall but away from that, isn't it time we started questioning the players?

I really thought that for once England have a team filled with players who are comfortable on the ball but once they came up against top opponents, they relied more on their athleticism rather than their technical ability which seems to be there in this present crop...
This your comment is very funny to me seeing how you're trying to excuse Southgate and hold the players accountable cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 3:01pm On Sep 20, 2021
My dream team

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:07pm On Sep 20, 2021
handelex:
This your comment is very funny to me seeing how you're trying to excuse Southgate and hold the players accountable cheesy

This life shaa grin
E shock you?

This is the first time i am hearing that Ligue 1 defenders are as good as EPL defenders. cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:09pm On Sep 20, 2021
afrodoc2:
You still haven't told me the 5-11 quality international grade central defenders in the Ligue 1 that Messi has to face.

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Illimitab.le has shut down your argument listing players who came from leagues that ordinarily you'd class as farmers league but still bossed the EPL...

As I said, there's more to football...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by slimghost(m): 3:11pm On Sep 20, 2021
See how they are attacking my man Patrick because of this Argentine Ikedia. No goal, no assist!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 3:14pm On Sep 20, 2021
Mrviktor:
My dream team
Both teams are sucidal bro especially this one

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:15pm On Sep 20, 2021
afrodoc2:
E shock you?

This is the first time i am hearing that Ligue 1 defenders are as good as EPL defenders. cheesy
E shock me I no go lie cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AnfieldFan: 3:21pm On Sep 20, 2021
TheLequte:
Liverpool fell from being contenders to barely making it into the top 4. That’s a demotion by Liverpool’s standards.

How sure are you that this setback can’t repeat itself? Can’t one injury to one important player mar another promising season?
Well it took injuries to the entire CB backline for this to happen... Surely, if City suffered the same fate, you don't think they would be contenders, do you?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:24pm On Sep 20, 2021
patrickmuf:
Illimitab.le has shut down your argument listing players who came from leagues that ordinarily you'd class as farmers league but still bossed the EPL...

As I said, there's more to football...
How many of those listed from Ligue 1 were defenders? Nothing was shut down.

Name 5 quality international grade defenders from Ligue 1 that Messi will face. I have asked you 98.54 times.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:24pm On Sep 20, 2021
afrodoc2:
E shock you?

This is the first time i am hearing that Ligue 1 defenders are as good as EPL defenders. cheesy
Who are the top EPL defenders?

Diaz from Benfica...

Varane a product of Ligue 1...

Azpi signed from Marseille...

Van Dijk signed from the Scottish league...

Varane was signed by Madrid from Lens who had just been relegated back then...

Azpi was signed by Chelsea from Marseille...

I assume the Scottish and Portuguese leagues qualify as farmers league too yet the best EPL defenders were signed from there...

If not for his injury Fofana was already touted as one of the best EPL defenders, guess where he was signed from?

Gabriel of Arsenal nko?

That defenders in the French Ligue 1 are not popular is down to the league and not because they are farmers...If Ligue 1 had the money and media packaging of the EPL, they'd be miles ahead...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Trevor012(m): 3:25pm On Sep 20, 2021
AnfieldFan:
Well it took injuries to the entire CB backline for this to happen... Surely, if City suffered the same fate, you don't think they would be contenders, do you?
Even before injuries to your centre backs, you where getting slapped 7 goals by Villa. Alaye leave excuse for oleouters cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:26pm On Sep 20, 2021
handelex:
This your comment is very funny to me seeing how you're trying to excuse Southgate and hold the players accountable cheesy

This life shaa grin
Good luck with English players...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:28pm On Sep 20, 2021
slimghost:
See how they are attacking my man Patrick because of this Argentine Ikedia. No goal, no assist!
Attacking? Lol...

He is trying to push a narrative that isn't factual...Kante, Mahrez and Hazard has dominated the EPL all from Ligue 1...A lot of farmers can play football in France...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by DeadPresidents: 3:29pm On Sep 20, 2021
patrickmuf:
Hehehe Zlatan played for PSG, the best team in the league and when he came to England, he joined the 5th best team and was older...

Mbappe scored 27 goals last season, that's good but hardly jaw dropping...Salah doesn't play as a CF but he also post better numbers...

The Falcao that arrived in England was already watched up...

Lacazette? How many stellar seasons did he have in Ligue 1? What team did he join in England? It's like leaving Liverpool for Real Betis/Valencia and expecting to drop the same stats. Lyon was the 2nd/3rd best team in France at that time, he joined Arsenal that were on their way down...

If Zlatan, Cavani, Mbappe played for the present City or Liverpool whilst at the peak of their powers, they'd have dropped top numbers...

That's me trying to point out things clearly but we all know football can't be judged that way, Immobile was thrash at Dortmund but he has since been back banging goals for Lazio...Ordinarily, one would look at the Bundesliga and think it is easier to score there than in the Serie A but it didn't happen...

Another instance, Ronaldo left Madrid for Juventus but was beaten to the golden boot by an old man Quagliarella in his first season and Immobile in his second season, it's only last season he was able to win the golden boot...Same Ronaldo that scored for fun in LA Liga and the UCL, are we to believe the Serie A is tougher or have better defenders? If yes, why then is Immobile doing so well there after failing in Germany?

There’s more to football...

I had a laugh when I read your reply...You this man, you funny sha.
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheLequte: 3:29pm On Sep 20, 2021
Illimitable:
Look at the match stats.

The score line flattered England. It made it seem like a tough game. The truth is the Italians destroyed England with number of shots, possession, passing accuracy, etc.

Most of them play in the farmer’s league - it got me wondering how the overhyped PL players could only make 420 passes in 120 minutes in comparison to the 820 passes from the Italians.

If Football was like wrestling, the referee would have stopped the match. English players took a jungle justice sort of beating. They were totally destroyed.
Lol. Chief.

That’s just one of the inconsistent things you mentioned.

England scored early but decided to sit back.

But that’s even besides the main point.

Tell me every player in each position in that English team are the best in those same positions in the EPL and we can end this disco.

Cos that’s what you think. And that’s how you judge the EPL. And you are freaking wrong.

A huge proportion of the best European teams play in England. Even the Italian team you’re bigging up has a number of players from the EPL.

Chief. You are wrong on that narrative.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:30pm On Sep 20, 2021
patrickmuf:
Who are the top EPL defenders?

Diaz from Benfica...

Varane a product of Ligue 1...

Azpi signed from Marseille...

Van Dijk signed from the Scottish league...

Varane was signed by Madrid from Lens who had just been relegated back then...

Azpi was signed by Chelsea from Marseille...

I assume the Scottish and Portuguese leagues qualify as farmers league too yet the best EPL defenders were signed from there...

If not for his injury Fofana was already touted as one of the best EPL defenders, guess where he was signed from?

Gabriel of Arsenal nko?

That defenders in the French Ligue 1 are not popular is down to the league and not because they are farmers...If Ligue 1 had the money and media packaging of the EPL, they'd be miles ahead...
All these good defenders have left their leagues and joined EPL teams which means EPL cherry picks the best defenders in these leagues and leaves the otu defenders to be forming chairman in those leagues.

Now can you name the 5 quality international grade defenders that Messi will face? cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:31pm On Sep 20, 2021
afrodoc2:
All these good defenders have left their leagues and joined EPL teams which means EPL cherry picks the best defenders in these leagues and leaves the otu defenders to be forming chairman in those leagues.

Now can you name the 5 quality international grade defenders that Messi will face? cheesy
I thought they were all farmers?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Exonerate1(m): 3:34pm On Sep 20, 2021
Mrviktor:
My dream team
That second team go good against us grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:34pm On Sep 20, 2021
TheLequte:
Lol. Chief.

That’s just one of the inconsistent things you mentioned.

England scored early but decided to sit back.

But that’s even besides the main point.

Tell me every player in each position in that English team are the best in those same positions in the EPL and we can end this disco.

Cos that’s what you think. And that’s how you judge the EPL. And you are freaking wrong.
When did EPL quality translate to English national team performance sef?

Man City's greatest modern players are Aguero, Silva, KDB, Silva, Kompany, Fernandinho. How many are English?

Most of those clubs have non-English players as their best players so their quality does not automatically transmit to the national team. Or how does the quality of Salah, Mane, VVD help England win tournaments?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:36pm On Sep 20, 2021
Messi is a failure at International football but when he won the COPA we started hearing stories...

The good thing is that his haters are out with the excuses are early this time...So, if Messi wins the Ligue 1 that PSG couldn't win and even lost their version of the Super Cup to the same Lille (showing that it wasn't a fluke), he didn't do anything spectacular, he should win the UCL which if he does they'd find another excuse...

Hehehe I sabi una well well...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:37pm On Sep 20, 2021
patrickmuf:
I thought they were all farmers?
Quote where i said they were all famers? Is Mbappe a farmer?

You were the one who said Ligue 1 defenders are as good as EPL defenders and yet have been unable to list only 5 of these defenders.
i have receipt for where you said it.

NAME 5 QUALITY INTERNATIONAL GRADE LIGUE 1 CENTRAL DEFENDERS THAT MESSI WILL FACE THIS SEASON.

I am asking for the 135.4618th time.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:38pm On Sep 20, 2021
patrickmuf:
Messi is a failure at International football but when he won the COPA we started hearing stories...

The good thing is that his haters are out with the excuses are early this time...So, if Messi wins the Ligue 1 that PSG couldn't win and seven lost their version of the Super Cup to the same Lille to show that it wasn't a fluke, he didn't do anything spectacular, he should win the UCL which if he does they'd find another excuses...

Hehehe I sabi una well well...
afrodoc2:
NAME 5 QUALITY INTERNATIONAL GRADE LIGUE 1 CENTRAL DEFENDERS THAT MESSI WILL FACE THIS SEASON.

I am asking for the 135.4618th time.
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