TonyeBarcanista:

It's good you brought that up! The problem with people like you is that you don't read beyond headline!

If you read the first thread, you will see where I stated that it would be unfair for the north to be preferred after the tenure of Buhari... Now in this thread, I looked at the issue once again and come to reality that the plight of northern PDP agitators was self inflicted... Through the support given to Buhari.

The two threads aren't contradictory, the second simply address the issue from an angle that the first didnt capture.

Now who is like FFK? YOU! How, you talk because you feel like talking rather than intellectually engage.

The problem with FFK is that he jumps, like you just did, to cast aspersion but always got humbled at the end- like I just did to you.

The take of seunmsg on you is correct, especially on this thread and the earlier one. They are contradictory and that is because you didn't take enough time to analyze the situation before rushing to produce the first thread.

How any objective analyst will make an argument for another Nigerian president of northern extraction is beyond me. Irrespective of the internal arrangements of individual political parties, should the larger entity (Nigeria) not play a major role in such arrangements and final decisions? Should PDP present a Northerner and he goes on to win the election, is he going to preside over PDP members and not the entire country? That PDP is even considering this as an option shows the type of party it is and the desperation of the politicians in that party.

Some of your submissions on why and how Jonathan was kicked out are very wrong. You are acting as if we were not here together in 2014/2015 and so you are attempting to re-write the history! Sorry bro, things don't work this way.

TonyeBarcanista:
*pdp

You all already knew where PDP presidential ticket was going since 2019, no need to write epistle.

TonyeBarcanista:

It's good you brought that up! The problem with people like you is that you don't read beyond headline!

If you read the first thread, you will see where I stated that it would be unfair for the north to be preferred after the tenure of Buhari... Now in this thread, I looked at the issue once again and come to reality that the plight of northern PDP agitators was self inflicted... Through the support given to Buhari.

The two threads aren't contradictory, the second simply address the issue from an angle that the first didnt capture.

Now who is like FFK? YOU! How, you talk because you feel like talking rather than intellectually engage.

The problem with FFK is that he jumps, like you just did, to cast aspersion but always got humbled at the end- like I just did to you.

Tonye my friend, I have nothing against your new position because I’ve been advocating for the same thing for some time now. However, the contradictions in your position within a period of three weeks is too obvious to be ignored and that’s what I called you out for.

Got humbled? You joke too much. And please, stop attacking FFK. It’s just like you’re attacking yourself. You guys have so much in coming. If you look into a mirror, I’m sure the person you will see is FFK.

barcaboi:
How PDP and goons try to make their own internal issue tht of Nigeria dey always sweet me sha. And dem sabi point fingers tire. 5 govs left and those within worked against kinikan. Your internal democracy sucks. 2019 came same backstabbing; same guys that left to APC; Atiku, Saraki, tambuwal were the highlights of the primaries. Saraki was used to checkmate tambuwal. What then happened? OGD and ekweremadu that were the front of the primaries were abandoned for dem Peter obi.
You make a law then deviate; PDP used religious card Judiciously 2015 against PMB and tho APC have a lot of blame but many distrust today was planted by the God forsaken party. Now the same people pushing the PDP northern candidacy forgot how they pushed the narrative of us against the north. PDP will do anything to get back into power.

Very analytical.

TonyeBarcanista:

It's good you brought that up! The problem with people like you is that you don't read beyond headline!

If you read the first thread, you will see where I stated that it would be unfair for the north to be preferred after the tenure of Buhari... Now in this thread, I looked at the issue once again and come to reality that the plight of northern PDP agitators was self inflicted... Through the support given to Buhari.

The two threads aren't contradictory, the second simply address the issue from an angle that the first didnt capture.

Now who is like FFK? YOU! How, you talk because you feel like talking rather than intellectually engage.

The problem with FFK is that he jumps, like you just did, to cast aspersion but always got humbled at the end- like I just did to you.

You actually believed that northern PDP gave support to Buhari/APC? I always laughed whenever I came across statements like this. You are saying that APC/Buhari couldn't have won without the support of northern PDP members because they didn't have enough number?
I'm sure that Northern PDP members won't make such mistake again and we're going to see what the outcome will be this time around.

Sheggy13:

That's because he's greedy and too desperate to be President like it's his birthright. I'm scared of such a character. I don't really see him doing anything meaningful just like Buhari that contested serially like he had something to offer, only to get there and mess up the country.

Since you were born, name a Nigerian president/party that started and completed the types of projects this same Buhari/APC has done in the last six years?

I agree, that PDP should not give her ticket to those who abandoned the party in 2015

GetMeRight:


You actually believed that northern PDP gave support to Buhari/APC? I always laughed whenever I came across statements like this. You are saying that APC/Buhari couldn't have won without the support of northern PDP members because they didn't have enough number?
I'm sure that Northern PDP members won't make such mistake again and we're going to see what the outcome will be this time around.

The same people he credited with Buhari's success in 2015 left APC in 2018 in their thinking/hope they would defeat him in 2019. We all saw what happened as PMB even inflicted bigger loss to Atiku than Jonathan.

Barcanista is a political amateur in his analyses.

TonyeBarcanista:
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By Tonye Barcanista

Penultimate to the election of 2015, leaders of Peoples Democratic Party from the north led agitation for power shift to the region. The argument then was that it was immoral for President Goodluck Jonathan, as then was, to seek reelection under the platform of the party having entered a pact not to do so.

Seeing that they couldn't stop President Jonathan from getting the nomination of the party, they activated plan B. Some of them, like Senator Bukola Saraki, Governor Rabiu Kwankwaso, Former Vice President Atiku Abubakar and host of others alongside their supporters switched to the newly formed merger, All Progressive Congress, to actualise their ambition for power shift to north. Alhaji Abubakar and Governor Kwankwaso vied for the nomination of their new party but lost to General Muhammadu Buhari. Their comrades, which remained in PDP, internally worked against PDP and Jonathan.

All of these northern politicians, alongside others, fully supported the campaign of General Buhari, which culminated into his victory over President Jonathan, and thereby actualising powers shift to the north.

Rather than to support President Jonathan, who was restricted to only 4 years in office (if reelected), they miscalculated by supporting General Muhammadu Buhari who they never knew had plans to seek reelection in 2019. When they saw the handwriting on the wall that President Buhari was to seek reelection and was favored for the nomination, they returned to PDP to lay claim to the Presidential ticket of the party. The same PDP they deserted and made to lose central power in 2015.

Southern PDP Chieftains, out of their magnanimity and need for equity and fairness, wholly accepted these returnees and backed zoning of the 2019 Presidential ticket to northern part of the country in line with equity and fairness. That process threw up Alhaji Abubakar, who had left in 2014 but returned in 2018 as the candidate of the party, to challenge President Buhari of APC.

As we approach 2023, it would be unfair for the party to shortchange the south in the guise of appeasing these northern chieftains. I hold two reasons for this;

The first is that President Buhari, who these northern PDP chieftains helped bring to power, is a northerner. And it won't be fair to the south for another northerner to seek to succeed him as after uninterrupted eight years in office in 2023. The moral thing is for the party to look towards the south instead.

Secondly, the southern PDP, and by extension southern Nigeria, was the biggest loser in the loss of PDP and Jonathan in 2015. More so, for the fact that the 2015 loss was catalysed by the actions of these northern PDP chieftains, it would be unfair and amount to double tragedy for the region to be made to give up its opportunity to appease the same people that brought about the tragedy.

Therefore, the PDP Zoning Committee under the leadership of His Excellency, Governor Ifeanyi Ugwuanyi, should as a matter of patriotism, fairness and justice, do the needful by zoning the party's National Chairmanship seat to the north and the Presidential ticket to the south.

May I also state that the south, being the stronghold of the party, is capable to galvanise support for a Presidential candidate from the south and deliver victory to the party at the polls in 2023. Furthermore, more than 55% of the northern electorates are comfortable with power shift to the south in 2023, and are looking up to PDP to make this happen.


I remain Tamunotonye Tonye Barcanista Inioribo

So Jonathan that entered into a pact with his colleagues and betrayed them by seeking a second term has no blame in the matter?

Trumann:


Kashim Shattima won Borno Guber in 2015 with 94.92%. Zulum won with about 91%, but you are here lamenting.
You think Kano and Co can muster 4M plus votes but they can't justify the number in terms of revenue.

In fact, Delta, Akwa Ibom, Bayelsa or Rivers should be selecting your leaders for you. Afterall, you are useless to the country and these states feed you.

I don't talk with fools and bigots. Good luck

Abbeyme:
What concerns morality with politics.
Nothing.


Abeg i get two iPhones for sale

Prize ?

PassingShot:

Since you were born, name a Nigerian president/party that started and completed the types of projects this same Buhari/APC has done in the last six years?

I'm not part of your political sycophancy group here on Nairaland. I'll tell you what you want to hear - Buhari has made Nigeria El-Dorado such that the youths don't wish to leave the country again as they're having the best life you can imagine. I seriously don't know what's wrong with some of you paid/party agents here on Nairaland. A President under whom the Human Development Index of Nigeria is at all-time low, poverty, insecurity, cost of living, nepotism, division, disunity and unemployment are at an all-time high. Aren't these negative indices the numerous projects you want me to mention for you?

Nonpartisan1:
I have said it before; However, let me repeat it here for the sake of the uninitiated, any party that fields a Northerner in 2023, will lose the election before the first ballot is cast.

The kind of rigging that would happen in the South, even if the North counted all the cows in the desert they won't meet up the figures that we are going churn out from the South..

Enough Said!

With this reasoning i doubt if you even understod the meaning of Politics.

adamumar522:
Buhari's 8 years cancelled Obasanjo's 8 years balanced. Also Jonathan's 6 years minus Yar'aduas' 2 years making 4 years. The North still has four years to go whether u like it or not come 2023. My advice to Southern political gladiators is to find a simple headed Northern candidate that won't seek reelection after the 4 years (beyond 2027) and hand over to the South for political balance, equity and fairness

Now tell us what will cancel sahagaris 5 years. What of abacha? Babangida? Buhari 3 years?

[quote author=Nonpartisan1 post=105951277]I have said it before; However, let me repeat it here for the sake of the uninitiated, any party that fields a Northerner in 2023, will lose the election before the first ballot is cast.

The kind of rigging that would happen in the South, even if the North counted all the cows in the desert they won't meet up the figures that we are going churn out from the South..

Enough Said![/quot

Men that's what I have been expecting the southern States to do, rig the election with huge votes, the lowest number from the south should be at least 13 million votes

Nonpartisan1:
I have said it before; However, let me repeat it here for the sake of the uninitiated, any party that fields a Northerner in 2023, will lose the election before the first ballot is cast.

The kind of rigging that would happen in the South, even if the North counted all the cows in the desert they won't meet up the figures that we are going churn out from the South..

Enough Said!

Dreams and fantasies based on the constitution of the parties the presidential candidates can come from anywhere. If you like rig from today until eternity if you bring stupid candidates they will not win. Shikenan

[quote author=Perkins2018 post=105966303]

Now tell us what will cancel sahagaris 5 years. What of abacha? Babangida? Buhari 3 years? [/quote Thanks for reminder, I have never seen people on this planet that is so selfish and self-centered like my people from the north, they should understand that we all belong to this country, and that greediness can never lead anyone to anywhere than destruction, all this thinking and planned to keep power in the north always are the reason we keep haven issue in this country, and nobody is enjoying it, may God help us in this nation

Thanks for reminder, I have never seen people on this planet that is so selfish and self-centered like my people from the north, they should understand that we all belong to this country, and that greediness can never lead anyone to anywhere than destruction, all this thinking and planned to keep power in the north always are the reason we keep haven issue in this country, and nobody is enjoying it, may God help us in this nation

Gunayo:
No wonder you are adamu. So a northern candidate should be be given power that won't seek reelection in 2027 really? Tell me who will be in power and won't like to remain their atleast for another 4 years after his first tenure? Please you northerners should pack one side and let an intellectual southerner come to power and fix the rot instead of bring one stupid permutation and drag us backward further. So what Buhari has done is not enough abi you guys wants to come and finish the country finally. Now l believe that the north have agenda, an evil one for that matter. Southerners need to unite in one voice and in one accord and save itself from the shackles of the northerners. If the north want to continue to hold unto power beyond 2023, then they should give room for disentegration of the country. No southern president come 2023, no one Nigeria.
God bless Southerners
God bless freedom fighters
God bless Nigeria.

Guy chill now, this ur temperature if hot ohh. By the way Jonathan is completing his four years and handing over to the North, know this and know peace, dats y FFK was recruited for the media job

Dthrone:

Prize ?

Prize??

They are for sale pls

TonyeBarcanista:

It's good you brought that up! The problem with people like you is that you don't read beyond headline!

If you read the first thread, you will see where I stated that it would be unfair for the north to be preferred after the tenure of Buhari... Now in this thread, I looked at the issue once again and come to reality that the plight of northern PDP agitators was self inflicted... Through the support given to Buhari.

The two threads aren't contradictory, the second simply address the issue from an angle that the first didnt capture.

Now who is like FFK? YOU! How, you talk because you feel like talking rather than intellectually engage.

The problem with FFK is that he jumps, like you just did, to cast aspersion but always got humbled at the end- like I just did to you.

Why are you not considering the Jonathan betrayal of his colleagues in PDP when he renegade on his promise to rule for just one full term? Is that not a factor in his loss of the election of 2015?

Ovamboland:


Why are you not considering the Jonathan betrayal of his colleagues in PDP when he renegade on his promise to rule for just one full term? Is that not a factor in his loss of the election of 2015?

From the same that is castigating Obi instead of telling us what his candidate will do, you have no shame Barcanista.

Some people are so shameless, despicable and disgusting.

The same Tonyebarcanista that condemned any attempt for a Northerner to succeed Buhari is today campaigning for Atiku, the same man he was particularly against?

What changed? Simply because he has been given some change!

Nigeria will never progress if we allow characters like this fool to continue causing nuisance.