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MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is really hilarious because you keep asking and i'm responding with the scriptures yet you say i don't know the Bible, do you now see why you're a LIAR?

First of all the people love JEHOVAH and they want to worship Him acceptably {Isaiah 43:10-12} so when Jehovah now introduced His Chosen King {Matthew 3:17;17:5} of course whoever goes against God's anointed is against God who anointed the King with Holy Spirit! John 3:16

When i cite the scriptures i want you to read it yourself so it won't be "Jehovah's Witnesses say" rather you will tell them"God's word say" unless you don't believe the Bible in your hand, as long as you claim you believe that book i will only cite the verses that answers your question so it's left for you to read!

Bishopkingsley:
[s]Any questions that you fail to answer I will move on to the next question

If you continue to say abusive words I will leave you

I told you you don't know Bible and you don't know Jesus and Jehovah because if you know this things you will not abuse when we are just discussing about Bible [/s]

Next question

They brought him to Ancient of Days
Ancient of Days is Jehovah

Now tell me who are the people that Jehovah said is going to serve that chosen king called the son of man ....

NAME the type of person or people who will serve him who will serve that chosen king called the son of man

Bishop, your question is based on a DUBIOUS claim & therefore NOT valid.
Coman be going, your Trinity mentors done fall your hand & throw away your FALSE claims

Hebrew lexicon 6399 "SERVE" is NOT worship , na your Trinity mentors,biblehub' talk am.
Dem say Bishop LIENUS Is LYING.

Janosky:


Numbers 11:17
17And I will come down and speak with you there, and I will take some of the Spirit that is on you and put that Spirit on them. They will help you bear the burden of the people, so that you do not have to bear it by yourself.…"


How many spirits was shared to Moses & 70 valiant leaders of Israel ?

Trinitarians too dey DECEIVE themselves

Janosky:
Bishop, your question is based on a DUBIOUS claim & therefore NOT valid.
Coman be going, your Trinity mentors done fall your hand & throw away your FALSE claims

Hebrew lexicon 6399 "SERVE" is NOT worship , na your Trinity mentors,biblehub' talk am.
Dem say Bishop LIENUS Is LYING.

D

johnw47:
[s]ecc 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:
oh duh most dum false jw janosky[/s]

num 11:17 is talking of the gifts of God/the gifts of the Holy Spirit
moses was given more than enough grace for some to be taken from him and be given
to 70 men to help

[s]talk about being deceived, u deceive yourself all the time, oh heap big fraud[/s]

Bishopkingsley:
Janosky why are you shaking
I did not even mention worship
I want to use your Bible to actually see if you people follow your own bible

That why I will follow your own Bible and use serve I only want to see who you obey if it is your Bible or the JW organization

Bishop, you know you can't find any evidence for your DUBIOUS claim

Janosky:
Did I, Janosky ,actually make references to Daniel 7:14?
Yes!

Bishop, you know you can't find any evidence for your DUBIOUS claim

DappaD:
Nawa! OP quoted Daniel 7:13,14 hoping to make it stick to the belief that one should worship Jesus.
Somehow somehow, “serve” suddenly changed to “worship” in his dictionary.

Since Daniel chapter 7 is being considered, why is the OP omitting the verse 27 of that chapter which says:

“The kingdom, along with the power and greatness of all the kingdoms under heaven, will be given to the holy people of the Most High. Their kingdom is eternal. All other powers will serve and obey them.”—God’s Word Translation(1995)

Does OP agree that we should worship these people mentioned in the verse 27 or shall we stick to the original meaning of the word “serve” ?
Will these people automatically become equal to God since they also receive a kingdom just like the son of man did in verse 14?

Janosky:
Numbers 11:17
17And I will come down and speak with you there, and I will take some of the Spirit that is on you and put that Spirit on them. They will help you bear the burden of the people, so that you do not have to bear it by yourself.…"

JohnW fraud DECEIVING himself.
@ Genesis 1:2 their FALSEHOOD says holy spirit is a person ,
Their Bibles say "hovering", them change am "to & fro" that is not the Hebrew lexicon meaning of "hovering"

@ holy spirit they claim is a person @ Genesis 1:2, JohnW fraud DECEIVING himself refused to accept Numbers 11:17 holy spirit as person.
John W fraud, why do you shift this goalpost?

johnw47:
[s]ecc 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:


oh duh duh duh fraud jw janosky[/s]

[s]talk about no understanding and confusion,[/s] you don't understand God's word at all.
truly verse 17 is not about chopping up the Holy Spirit and giving bits of Him to 70 others
it's about taking some of the gifts of the Spirit from moses and giving them to the 70

[s]of course u confused fraud jw could never understand:

1 cor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.[/s]

John W fraud who understands God's word by adding his own "gifts" ,

A question for you:
what is the Hebrew lexicon for "gifts of the spirit" @ Numbers 11:17?

johnw47:
[s]false jw dappa d dope

you have searched for a faulty translation to suit your false belief.
the one to be served/worshipped in verse 27 is the most High:[/s]

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

Strongs: 06399
6399 plach pel-akh' (Aramaic) corresponding to 6398; to serve or worship:--minister, serve. see HEBREW for 06398

Daniel 7:27 complete Jewish bible, NWT
"Obey them"

SERVE, Minister is NOT worship.
Matthew 20:28.
John W fraud

Janosky:
JohnW fraud DECEIVING himself

John W fraud who understands God's word by adding his own "gifts" ,

A question for you:
what is the Hebrew lexicon for "gifts of the spirit" @ Numbers 11:17?

Janosky:
Daniel 7:27 complete Jewish bible, NWT
"Obey them"

SERVE, Minister is NOT worship.
Matthew 20:28.
John W fraud

johnw47:
ecc 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:
oh duh most dum false jw janosky

truly know nothing fraud jw janosky, verse 17 is not about chopping up the Holy Spirit and giving bits of Him to 70 others
it's about taking some of the gifts of the Spirit from moses and giving them to the 70

1 cor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

A question for you:
what is the Hebrew lexicon for "gifts of the spirit" @ Numbers 11:17?

John W fraud no get conscience LYING like kilode

Janosky:
Numbers 11:17

17And I will come down and speak with you there, and I will take some of the Spirit that is on you and put that Spirit on them. They will help you bear the burden of the people, so that you do not have to bear it by yourself.…"

A question for you:
what is the Hebrew lexicon for "gifts of the spirit" @ Numbers 11:17?

John W fraud no get conscience LYING like kilode

Janosky:
Daniel 7:27 complete Jewish bible, NWT
"Obey them"

SERVE, Minister is NOT worship.
Matthew 20:28.
John W fraud

Janosky:
Bishop, your question is based on a DUBIOUS claim & therefore NOT valid.
Coman be going, your Trinity mentors done fall your hand & throw away your FALSE claims

Hebrew lexicon 6399 "SERVE" is NOT worship , na your Trinity mentors,biblehub' talk am.
Dem say Bishop LIENUS Is LYING.

D

DappaD:
Nawa! OP quoted Daniel 7:13,14 hoping to make it stick to the belief that one should worship Jesus.
Somehow somehow, “serve” suddenly changed to “worship” in his dictionary.

Since Daniel chapter 7 is being considered, why is the OP omitting the verse 27 of that chapter which says:

“The kingdom, along with the power and greatness of all the kingdoms under heaven, will be given to the holy people of the Most High. Their kingdom is eternal. All other powers will serve and obey them.”—God’s Word Translation(1995)

Does OP agree that we should worship these people mentioned in the verse 27 or shall we stick to the original meaning of the word “serve” ?
Will these people automatically become equal to God since they also receive a kingdom just like the son of man did in verse 14?

Bishopkingsley:
A real child of God will cite the Bible and will write down what the Bible say in the place he cite so that everyone can see he is not citing wrong things

For example I can say check
John 878:444
If you tell me that you don't know where that place is I will tell you that I don't know where your own place is too
Now another reason why we write it down is because Jesus said the word of God from the Bible when Satan was talking with him he did not say to Satan look check Jeremiah so and so place to see so and so

Now back to the question
Jehovah said every people in the world is going to serve this king and Daniel did not know his name so he called this king son of man

Question
Do you agree that Jehovah said every one will serve that person who you call king

johnw47:

false jw dappa d dope
you have searched for a faulty translation to suit your false belief.
the one to be served/worshipped in verse 27 is the most High:
27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.
Strongs: 06399
6399 plach pel-akh' (Aramaic) corresponding to 6398; to serve or worship:--minister, serve. see HEBREW for 06398

MaxInDHouse:
This is where you failed woefully!
You don't need to write down what is in the Bible for someone who claims he is a Bishop (a teacher of the word) we (JWs) only quote (copy what's in the book) when necessary and that's when we're chatting with those who have less regards for the book so that they can see where our smartness is coming from. But for disguised atheists like you who claims he is a teacher of God's word we only need to cite the scriptures and allow you to Interpret it for everyone to see how devilish you are!
So Interpret what i cited and stop playing around!


Jesus quote the words for Satan who wants to lead Jesus astray and back then the books has not been divided into chapters and verses. But now that the book has been divided into 1189 chapters and 31,200 verses all i need to do is cite scriptures and leave you to read and Interpret it to the best of your ability!


If i don't agree then why did i abandon my former religion {John 4:22} joined Jesus followers {Luke 9:59} associate with God's people {Matthew 18:20} and go around with them preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom in my neighborhood! Matthew 28:19-20
Guy you're confused!
Jehovah's Witnesses globally are serving Jesus that's why everyone knows us globally as zealous preachers and industrious teachers of the word! Act 1:8
Jesus is the prophet who gave us the order {Matthew 28:19-20} none of Jehovah's prophets ever said that, we are obeying him because we know he is the ANOINTED one Messiah Christ! Matthew 3:17; 17:5

So we are truly serving our Master Lord and King Jesus but as for WORSHIP that you're worried about NO! Jesus asked us to worship his Father JEHOVAH! John 20:17

Bishopkingsley:
Now listen I want you to treat me like someone who doesn't know Bible now throw away my Bishop name and treat me like someone who does not know God and who doesn't know Bible
I want you to be writing the places you cite
Now I write down my own because truly I treat you like you don't know God and you don't even know the Bible that is why I write it down for everyone to see the meaning of those places that I cite
From now I want you to treat me the same way I treat you now how do I treat you I already know this you don't know Jehovah and Bible but you know Watchtower very well and you know GB very well
But you don't know your Bible and you don't know Jehovah
Now are you ready to treat me the same way I treat you so that you can write the place you cite

Bishopkingsley:
Now listen I want you to treat me like someone who doesn't know Bible now throw away my Bishop name and treat me like someone who does not know God and who doesn't know Bible

I want you to be writing the places you cite

Now I write down my own because truly I treat you like you don't know God and you don't even know the Bible that is why I write it down for everyone to see the meaning of those places that I cite

From now I want you to treat me the same way I treat you now how do I treat you I already know this you don't know Jehovah and Bible but you know Watchtower very well and you know GB very well

But you don't know your Bible and you don't know Jehovah

Now are you ready to treat me the same way I treat you so that you can write the place you cite

achorladey:
Nawa! OP quoted Daniel 7:13,14 hoping to make it stick to the belief that one should worship Jesus....... Dappad

Jehovah’s viewpoint was that Jesus too should be worshipped una no dey follow Jehovah’s viewpoint. Go figure.


Somehow somehow, “serve” suddenly changed to “worship” in his dictionary.... Dappad

It is not somehow somehow, trying to colour the matter further. What you know is what one of your brother posted already is that SERVE = REVERENCE = REVER = WORSHIP.

This is not somehow somehow

all dominions shall serve and obey them.”

Achorladey is a LIAR tayy tayy

Janosky:
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3rd person present: reveres
feel deep respect or admiration for (something).
"Cézanne's still lifes were revered by his contemporaries.

Achorladey is LYING to this forum that the contemporaries of Cézanne worshipped the artist called Cézanne



Bros, Apply your DUBIOUS claim to Daniel 7:27

JPS Tanakh

“And the kingdom and the dominion, and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the Most High; their kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey them.”

Achorladey is a LIAR tayy tayy

DappaD:
Daniel 7:27

Good News Translation

“The power and greatness of all the kingdoms on earth will be given to the people of the Supreme God. Their royal power will never end, and all rulers on earth will serve and obey them.”


God’s Word Translation

“The kingdom, along with the power and greatness of all the kingdoms under heaven, will be given to the holy people of the Most High. Their kingdom is eternal. All other powers will serve and obey them.”


JPS Tanakh

“And the kingdom and the dominion, and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the Most High; their kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey them.”


What makes you think the above translations are faulty and the King James is trustworthy? For your information, in that verse there is no third person pronoun “him” in Hebrew.
The above translations used “them” because the context is not referring to a person, but a group of people.

Heck it’s even in harmony with the rest of the Bible. Jesus promised his disciples that God would give them a Kingdom and they would rule as kings and judges alongside him. Matthew 19:28, Luke 12:32, 22:28-30, Revelation 3:21, 20:4,6 see also 2Timothy 2:12


The question remains, are we to worship these people who also receive a Kingdom like the son of man did in verse 14?

KNOWMORE56:
"...the Greek word is translated obeisance because it refers to the Lord Jesus, but when the same exact Greek word is used at Rev. 5:14; 7:11; 11:16; 19:4; 20:4 and Jn. 4:20 it is rendered worshiped because it doesn't refer to Jesus."

Watch Tower worshipers way...

if they see Lexus 350 in Lagos it is Lexus, the same Lexus 350 is seen in Lafia, they are doing everything possible to convince somebody that it's Lorry

KNOWMORE56:
"...the Greek word is translated obeisance because it refers to the Lord Jesus, but when the same exact Greek word is used at Rev. 5:14; 7:11; 11:16; 19:4; 20:4 and Jn. 4:20 it is rendered worshiped because it doesn't refer to Jesus."

Watch Tower worshipers way...

if they see Lexus 350 in Lagos it is Lexus, the same Lexus 350 is seen in Lafia, they are doing everything possible to convince somebody that it's Lorry