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Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:36pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
Acrobatics01: All these people are just reading the Bible to apply it to what other people do, they never think of applying it on how they themselves are doing! For instance if most of them should travel to Israel and listen to Jews who are born, bread and brought up in Galilee today, they will all throw away their Bibles and forget Jesus. Because the Israelites till today believe that Jesus was an impostor. Therefore they never say anything good about him. So let them continue deceiving themselves with false stories, while JWs are busy doing what Jesus commaded us! Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things! Matthew 28:19-20
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Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Acrobatics01: 11:44pm On Aug 16, 2021 |
Nancy2020: ... again, I would reiterate the fact that you cannot believe the narrative from the mouth of the enemy. If you want to know the truth about JW, kindly visit jw.org. As outstanding as it is, the website contains publications as far back as 1950 so you can check out the facts for yourself. We teach the truth that set men free |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Bishopkingsley(m): 12:06am On Aug 17, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Your point means little because Bible told us Isreal never accepted Jesus read it to see Even when Jesus rose from the dead the church temple leaders paid the army men to lie against Jesus It in the Bible so it not new Paul said they were cut off from the branch so that we gentiles can be grafted in they enjoyed old testament while our own fore fathers were suffering So now they are suffering without God and we are enjoying eternal life Bible equally say when the Antichrist will be revealed they will think he is the chosen one then later they will realize Jesus was the one not the Antichrist That when they will then cry and believe Jesus so God plan everything for all people JW can never win souls like Christians win JW can't match us in anything we baptize people with spiritual baptism holy spirit baptism when you experience that you will then know God 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Nancy2020(f): 12:14am On Aug 17, 2021 |
Acrobatics01:I just asked JW in my area the OP point the new point and he said it true that they believe Jesus was killed on stake, Unless you want to tell me JW have renounced some of the teaching which are occultic in nature. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Acrobatics01: 7:54am On Aug 17, 2021 |
Nancy2020: Maybe I need to read the again the meaning of "occultic" or there is an updated meaning. But, without being verbose, maybe in one sentence or two, at max, could you point to me which of our beliefs is occultic in nature. |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Nancy2020(f): 8:07am On Aug 17, 2021 |
Acrobatics01:my o my is it that you don't read my words OK let me point it out........ I just asked JW in my area the OP point the new point and he said it true that they believe Jesus was killed on stake, Unless you want to tell me JW have renounced some of the teaching which are occultic in nature............. From the above post so you actually don't see the occultic doctrine in the post which JW say they believe in. |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Acrobatics01: 9:47am On Aug 17, 2021 |
Nancy2020: Oh, I just saw this. The teaching that Jesus was nailed on a stake as against the cross is what you refer to as occultic? Really? I never heard of that though. I thought the world has become so enlightened that the teaching is so clear. I thought there was another contentious issues. Well, thanks for making it clear to me. May I point you to researches that prove our point without any bias? But again, you would promise to read without a bias |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Nancy2020(f): 9:54am On Aug 17, 2021 |
Acrobatics01:researches that prove our point This is another Satan view Why leave the scriptures and pick researchers you see why people say your part of a cult You can't research the word of God outside the Bible. 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Acrobatics01: 9:58am On Aug 17, 2021 |
Nancy2020: Okay, now I see what you are referring to. Please may I know the translation you use so I tell you why research is required at some points |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Nancy2020(f): 10:01am On Aug 17, 2021 |
Acrobatics01:no matter the translation you use even if you use your perverted new world translation it won't say stake rather on a cross. The Bible is clear don't let evil men use idea to twist it for you. 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by DappaD: 11:12am On Aug 17, 2021 |
Nancy2020: Why is the instrument used in Jesus’ death of such importance to you? Did the Bible place any importance on it? If not, why do people rever it as if it has any significance? |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by DappaD: 11:12am On Aug 17, 2021 |
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Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Bishopkingsley(m): 11:21am On Aug 17, 2021 |
DappaD: If you can lie about the instrument used then you can equally lie about who Jesus is 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Acrobatics01: 11:22am On Aug 17, 2021 |
Nancy2020: Thanks, I would assume "perverted" is a compliment. Even is if it's not, then every translation is "perverted" because none of the translations you are using now is the original one written by the bible writers but you have been made to believe some translations over others by your leaders. However, if you want to consider the KJV, you can read 1 Peter 2:24, and let me know is uses the word cross. |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Bishopkingsley(m): 11:22am On Aug 17, 2021 |
Nancy2020: They the JW worship the GB organization doctrine rather than the Bible Now you can see why people refer to them as cult you now see if they can have the mind to lie about his death method nothing they can't lie about |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Nancy2020(f): 11:34am On Aug 17, 2021 |
Acrobatics01:none of the translations you are using now is the original one written by the bible writers This above statement is another lie from your mouth always trying to reject the Bible English version that what God said we should actually watch out for, why should I actually believe you and not believe the Bible, no I will rather believe the Bible English version rather then your twisting lying lips. Now imagine you want me to believe that your own version is the truth, look at your own idea is it what they teach you before you believe their lies ,lol. Now back to the 1st Peter verse state it here write it down let see if it says stake. Since they say JW don't like to write down scriptures because when ever they quote scriptures it won't match what they say with their mouth. |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Nancy2020(f): 2:40pm On Aug 17, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley:what I don't understand is how they can leave English Bible when ever the doctrine don't fit into their own desires as if they know more than the professor who translated the Bible. Any body that wants to take you away from the Bible to Hebrew or Greek is doing it so they can use language to twist God's word. |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by DappaD: 8:36am On Aug 18, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: Wrong context. Christ dying on a stake/pole is of importance as the scripture says no doubt(Galatians 3:13) I mean why venerate the instrument used, whether stake or cross? Is there such importance attached to it that it needs to be worshiped? If Christ was killed with an AK-47 would you hang the image around your neck or set up a huge structure of AK-47 in your church or home or car? Now don’t even get me started when people think holding up the cross offers protection, so it was an AK-47 you’d hold that up too for protection? All I see is just advanced idolatry committed by so many idol worshippers posing as Christians, nothing else. Exodus 20:4,5; 1Corinthians 10:14 |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Bishopkingsley(m): 8:51am On Aug 18, 2021 |
DappaD: You don't understand the cross Moses which God told him to put a snake on the tree that who ever looks at that snake will not die when it bite them Then God told Moses that how they will look at Jesus on the tree and those who do that will live. So you don't understand the importance of the cross Jesus said when am lifted up that when I will draw all men to me so the cross is what draws people to Jesus you better get one and focus on the price Jesus paid It not must to actually have physical cross you can have the picture of the event on the cross in your heart it the same thing Or you can have it visibly as Moses did with the serpent Lying with the methods Jesus died with is evil and he who does that can change any other part of the Bible |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by DappaD: 8:56am On Aug 18, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: So how does a straight tree/pole which stood vertically as in the times of Moses translate to two pieces of wood membered at 90° to each other? You do not see the discrepancy? Jesus said those who will gain everlasting life will look at him nah, not the instrument of execution. John 3:15 Or are you saying that all those in the first century who didn’t physically see Jesus die will not gain everlasting life because they never saw him on the stake? Do we even need to physically see Jesus to have the prospect of everlasting life? John 20:29-31 If no, then why do we need to see the instrument of execution? Of what use is it? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Bishopkingsley(m): 9:38am On Aug 18, 2021 |
DappaD: Wrong again to say never saw him on the stake? Devil doctrine to say stake means your filled with wrong information from the Bible as long as you believe it stake other explanation will mean nothing to you |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by SmithRussell(m): 10:46am On Aug 18, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: But what if they’re correct and your NWT is not?? Just saying |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Bishopkingsley(m): 5:29pm On Aug 18, 2021 |
SmithRussell: Am not JW so how can you say your NWT is now I don't use NWT |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Betscoreodds: 7:42am On Aug 21, 2021 |
Acrobatics01:where do you research from which book is your research material Bible or which one. |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Acrobatics01: 9:19am On Aug 21, 2021 |
Betscoreodds: Greetings! Primarily from the bible. Secondary sources of course would be valuable because of some reasons. 1. Bible was not written in English originally, hence you may need to look for the etymology of some words to gain better understanding of the context 2. You may require other texts written in the same time and region to understand some of the things written. |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Betscoreodds: 10:43am On Aug 21, 2021 |
Acrobatics01:hence you may need to look for the etymology of some words to gain better understanding of the context................................. All languages are evolving hope you know that so sit in Hebrew back then may mean sit down but today in Hebrew it may mean humble yourself, so which evolution part are you using this then brings division and confusion to fit into your doctrine one word in Hebrew can mean five different things so that is another thing to consider which to choose among the five you see why you stick with the rules Bible say use Bible to interpret another part of Bible rather than using.......... You may require other texts written in the same time and region........ This method if it not Bible it Wil bring your soul to death that what God says. |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Acrobatics01: 11:17am On Aug 21, 2021 |
Betscoreodds: Dear Betscoreodds, I have addressed your comments. Thanks |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Betscoreodds: 11:30am On Aug 21, 2021 |
Acrobatics01:confused combined answers lol. |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Bishopkingsley(m): 11:31am On Aug 21, 2021 |
Betscoreodds: Hahaahahahaha |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:30am On Aug 24, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:Jesus said water baptism is to full fill all Righteousness. |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Janosky: 12:30pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: God Has Spoken by His Son Hebrews 1:1-2 1 Long ago God spoke many times and in many ways to our ancestors through the prophets. 2 [b]And now in these final days, he has spoken to us through his Son. God promised everything to the Son as an inheritance, and through the Son he created the universe"[/b] According to your Bible, Hebrews 1:2,is the son his Father's spokesman? Does the fact that God spoke through the Prophets made them God? No , nau ! Likewise, Jesus is NOT God simply because the universe was created through him. Polytheists ,worshippers of 3 deities refused the Scriptural evidences that Jesus is Archangel Michael. Your Trinitarian devotees & mentors believe Jesus is Archangel Michael. God the son is a man made contraption foreign to the holy Scriptures. |
Re: Jehovah’s Witnesses occultic Views Of Christ ⚫⚫⚫ by Janosky: 12:34pm On Aug 24, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: Acts 5:30 , John 19:6 NWT is correct. Complete Jewish Bible proven it. John 19:6 CJB "When the head cohanim and the Temple guards saw him they shouted, “Put him to death on the stake! Put him to death on the stake!” Pilate said to them, “You take him out yourselves and put him to death on the stake, because I don’t find any case against him Wetin concern Jews with pagan cross?
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