Cowbell521:
There u go... Now I am a fraudster bcuz U see U no fit compare ursef with me in terms of money and power. FYI, I own a business here. What do you do in the UK? Work for who and who? You are just a product of modern slavery.

Drop ur passport number and I promise 2 make U regret making dis statement. Especially if U dey illegal. Even 4 UK, I fit give U ur size

Note: Na D right governmental authority go handle ur case Ooh. Cuz pipu like U fit be member of one of those dirty UK street gangs.

Henri8:
They will feeling frustrated and confused. Especially, the elderly ones now.

Kingstanding:
. I laughed in Chinese. You want me to drop my passport number, isn't? You must be crazy. For your information. Without knowing me and you have concluded that you're richer than I do, oh my goodness. You're a typical Nigerian. You don't know me and you just made the conclusion of getting richer than I do,infact stupidity is your surname.

akanke79:

A vote for Atiku 2023 is a continuation of fulani herdsmen of killings and displacement(IDP camps).

UPMIKE:


Has the word of God changed?
Has God's standards changed?
I pity you sheepies .
And FYI,
I was a worker in deeper life

Kelvin30286063:
Many of the people spreading propagandas about Deeper life are outsiders who don't know Jack about the doctrines of the church. I was born into deeper life and aside from those old days, deeper life have moved on from many of those. But many outsiders keep spreading the old doctrines.

He is having a program in Abuja, for all you know, his members may have arranged for the vehicle that will pick him at the airport.
In all, I don't think anyone should have a problem with how another person chose to spend his own money as long as he made it legitimately. And he never said his members shouldn't have a life. If you attend deeper camp programs, you will see the kind of cars the pastors drive.
There are just too many lies about the church and most of them are circulated by outsiders like you who have zero knowledge of happenings within the church.
They said deeper life members don't use TV, yet if you go to deeper church, you will see that every single deeper life church has a TV in it. Infact, it's compulsory. My dad is a pastor at deeper life yet he has a 55 inch plasma TV at home. Why is he not suspended yet?
They said the church has a ridiculous marriage doctrines yet Redeemed have tougher marriage doctrines and no one is talking about it. I married my wife in a Redeemed church and I know what we went through. Even as a deeper life member, I found it annoying at a point! I mean that church rejected her wedding dress 5 times. If it was deeper life, people will start talking.

thesicilian:
It started with the television which he called "the devil's box" suddenly becoming a "ministry tool".
Now it's limo rides and jets. If you ask they'll say their God is not a poor God. My question is, the poor members who donate their sweat and blood for the ministry to move forward daily, is their God a poor God?

josite:


Are you God.even the Bible says it is only God who knows those that he is how do u know that kumuyi is closer to God.did God told you that ?

thesicilian:
It started with the television which he called "the devil's box" suddenly becoming a "ministry tool".
Now it's limo rides and jets. If you ask they'll say their God is not a poor God. My question is, the poor members who donate their sweat and blood for the ministry to move forward daily, is their God a poor God?

hakym619:
Ride on papa.

I'm a Muslim and I really support religious leader living a fulfilled life

gurunlocker:


This is a funny thread.... The thing is, no matter what you do, people will still talk.

If he had used that old car, people would have still call him names.... I understand the reason they are attacking him, which is because of his past laid doctrines.

BiggyB242:


Deeper lifers don't own TVs before, when I was growing up my neighbour was a deeper lifer he didn't have a TV not that he couldn't afford one. I have other classmates then who didn't have TVs in their home as well.

I want to ask a question, why was tv prohibited then but not anymore, what actually change because last time I checked the programs in TV is even more corrupt now as compare to back in the days.

Now, they have seen that TV is a way to advertise thereby leading to an increase in the church congregation, therefore TV is now allowed.

Same as mountain of fire, at first it was no jewelry, if you had one you might be sent back home or best still sit at the back of the church but today 60 percent of the members are all putting on jewelry.

I'm a Christian, I have come to understand everything in life fall on personal interest.

zombieHUNTER:


Nigerian pastors need the country to remain poverty capital of the world... All thanks to the evil politicians

The poor tends to be more religious.. more gullible to their pastors..

There's a reason why Nigerian politicians and pastors are the richest in the world.

It's the people... So gullible and easy to deceive

After what the country is passing through in the hands of Buhari.. some people are chanting Tinubu 2023.. no be Juju be that.

donwily:

With this your write-up, you are actually justifying what people are saying that they preach one thing and practice another.

masterflowx:
Take my words, before I leave, I mean, before I go. I'm going to remove everything that I have set up that I thought will help deeper life and make us holy, and make us sanctified, make us deep and make us deeper and I see is not making us deeper but shallow, before I leave,I will uproot all of them and present to you a pure church before I leave.

Pastor Kumuyi (2015).

gurunlocker:


This is a funny thread.... The thing is, no matter what you do, people will still talk.

If he had used that old car, people would have still call him names.... I understand the reason they are attacking him, which is because of his past laid doctrines.

Awoo88:

When did Kumuyi call TV the devil box??

Benjaniblinks:

Can you link us to a video of where he called the television a "Devil's box" or you are making an allegation based on hear say?

Kingstanding:
. I laughed in Chinese. You want me to drop my passport number, isn't? You must be crazy. For your information. Without knowing me and you have concluded that you're richer than I do, oh my goodness. You're a typical Nigerian. You don't know me and you just made the conclusion of getting richer than I do,infact stupidity is your surname. I'm damn sure you're into illegal business in Nigeria. For your information I have a care home in UK which I'm the director of my business. My username is kingstanding is the area I reside in Birmingham city, West Midland. When you get to Birmingham city take bus number 33 or 32 tell the bus driver you will stop at the last bus stop. Just ask of me from anyone that you see. Idiot man.

Kelvin30286063:

Your question is reasonable so I'll answer you. Back in the days, there is a general campaign against visual media by churches all over the world. Which depper life spearheaded like many other churches. Same way there was a general campaign against social media by churches when it first hit Nigeria.
I should point out tho that deeper life did not back the idea of members not owning a TV with any biblical references, they only defend the decision with the possibility that what people watch on TV may corrupt them. Infact, those days, we use to watch Christian movies in church even though the church had a doctrine against TV. And look at the world now. Social media and TV has actually corrupted the world for real so one can argue that they were right after all.
As for why they later embraced it, I will say that the media won the battle, same way social media won the fight against the church and churches now have programs on Facebook and all other social media platforms.
Eveb till now, deeper life does not promote their programs on TV, but they have backtracked on the doctrine of members not owning a TV for a long time now. The same way they have backtracked on many of their other doctrines. Not that they are wrong but because they know they can't win a war against something that is generally accepted.

thesicilian:
It started with the television which he called "the devil's box" suddenly becoming a "ministry tool".
Now it's limo rides and jets. If you ask they'll say their God is not a poor God. My question is, the poor members who donate their sweat and blood for the ministry to move forward daily, is their God a poor God?

thesicilian:
It started with the television which he called "the devil's box" suddenly becoming a "ministry tool".
Now it's limo rides and jets. If you ask they'll say their God is not a poor God. My question is, the poor members who donate their sweat and blood for the ministry to move forward daily, is their God a poor God?

BiggyB242:


They would have stick to it. Everything in life has its advantages and disadvantages. If the advantages outweigh the disadvantages by all means stick with it. Imagine depriving people of watching TV leading to some kids missing out on things they were to enjoy/know while young because you felt it will corrupt the congregation and later on you allowed it.

If you know many women who have missed out on a wonderful man because of some Christian doctrines their church practices you will be alarmed.

Kelvin30286063:

I agree with you and I have criticised this many times. Even to the point that they assume I'm an anti-christ lol