Igboid:


So if SE Governors arise from that meeting in Enugu tomorrow and give support to SW/SS , what would you make of that?

You are talking as if you don't know Umahi. Unless he won't be in that meeting then the opposite will happen. Supporting Wike means backstabbing Uzodinma’s efforts. The SE needs to choose her political battles wisely.
How important is VAT to you than boundary adjustment. If Imo wins that case, it will kick-start a ripple effect never seen in this country.

It will end identity crisis politics in Rivers state. It will push more money into the coffers of the SE, attract more oil and multinational companies into the region and unite brothers once again.

Eastlink:
You are talking as if you don't know Umahi. Unless he won't be in that meeting then the opposite will happen.

I'm finally beginning to see through the eyes of Umahi.
Interesting!
He is the chairman of the SE governors forum, so he will certainly be present.
Ugwuanyi is more like an air head, I don't expect him to have an opinion.
Obiano is a serpent, he will agree with Umahi.
Uzodimma is a supreme Court governor in fight with Wike for oil Wells, he will be against supporting Rivers and SS. Okezie Ikpeazu is in same category as Ugwuanyi.

Every thing being equal, SE governors will maintain neutrality or support FG .
Fingers crossed.

Igboid:


I'm finally beginning to see through the eyes of Umahi.
Interesting!
He is the chairman of the SE governors forum, so he will certainly be present.
Ugwuanyi is more like an air head, I don't expect him to have an opinion.
Obiano is a serpent, he will agree with Umahi.
Uzodimma is a supreme Court governor in fight with Wike for oil Wells, he will be against supporting Rivers and SS. Okezie Ikpeazu is in same category as Ugwuanyi.

Every thing being equal, SE governors will maintain neutrality or support FG .
Fingers crossed.

I just checked, Ugwuanyi is now the chairman of the SEGF if I’m correct. But it changes nothing.

Eastlink:
You are talking as if you don't know Umahi. Unless he won't be in that meeting then the opposite will happen. Supporting Wike means backstabbing Uzodinma’s efforts. The SE needs to choose her political battles wisely.
How important is VAT to you than boundary adjustment. If Imo wins that case, it will kick-start a ripple effect never seen in this country.

It will end identity crisis politics in Rivers state. It will push more money into the coffers of the SE, attract more oil and multinational companies into the region and unite brothers once again.

Getting back Oyigbo and ONELGA will be a game changer.
It will send chills down many Igbo haters spines.
It will cause a domino effect.
Talkative Wike will scatter party and reveal lots of hidden secrets.

I can't wait for us to pull this off.

This VAT war better not stop.

Eastlink:
I just checked, Ugwuanyi is now the chairman of the SEGF if I’m correct. But it changes nothing.

Are you sure?
I think Ugwuanyi is the chairman of PDP governors forum.

Why do you think Ayade is pulling out from SS too?
Maybe he is positioning Calabar port? Or to recover Cross River oil that Akwa ibom won some time ago?
I mean many believe that Oron should have been part of Cross River.
What do you think?

Igboid:


Getting back Oyigbo and ONELGA will be a game changer.
It will send chills down many Igbo haters spines.
It will cause a domino effect.
Talkative Wike will scatter party and reveal lots of hidden secrets.

I can't wait for us to pull this off.

This VAT war better not stop.

Rivers state government have always known that Oyigbo and Egbema will be returned to Imo state some day. Any wonder why the state government aside from Amaechi never thought it wise to spread development to these axis. Mbakwe would have won that battle had Rivers not being governed by NPN which was the ruling party of Shagari. Mbakwe was in NPP and there is no way you’ll expect a rulling party not to support a fellow party stalwart by shutting down it's main cash cow for elections.

Imo began getting it right when PDP ruled the centre. Obasanjo didn't do much but promises as both Rivers and Imo belonged to the same party. It was Yaradua who made the difference. He just saw the injustice and gave the oil wells in Imo territory sapped by Rivers to Ohakim.

But Uzodinma is moving forward. He knows Imo has the ace and is pushing Mbakwe’s agenda of retrieving Oyigbo and Egbema to Imo. Once Egbema moves to Imo, the rest ONELGA towns will be in disarray. The same will happen in Etche once a few communities in the dispute is added to Imo.

Eastlink:
Rivers state government have always known that Oygbo and Egbema will be returned to Imo state some day. Any wonder why the state government aside from Amaechi never thought it wise to spread development to these axis. Mbakwe would have won that battle had Rivers not being governed by NPN which was the ruling party of Shagari. Mbakwe was in NPP and there is no way you’ll expect a rulling party not to support a fellow party stalwart by shutting down it's main cash cow for elections.

Imo began getting it right when PDP ruled the centre. Obasanjo didn't do much but promises as both Rivers and Imo belonged to the same party. It was Yaradua who made the difference. He just saw the injustice and gave the oil wells in Imo territory sapped by Rivers to Ohakim.

But Uzodinma is moving forward. He know Imo has the ace and is pushing Mbakwe’s agenda of retrieving Oyigbo and Egbema to Imo. Once Egbema moves to Imo, the rest ONELGA towns will be in disarray. The same will happen in Etche as well once a few communities is needed to Imo.

Ndiigbo have suffered lots of injustice from all corner in this country.
All man, SS , SW and North cashed out big from our misery in 1970.

It's time we stopped crying and start playing the kind of devilish and dangerous politics Uzodimma and Umahi are doing to get even. Time we capitalized from their own misfortunes as well, and it starts with this VAT stuff.
We need a change in how we approach non Igbo Nigerians, and we might just be getting it right this time around.

Ikpeazu is too docile and passive for me, he needs to sit up more.
Has Abia won any crude oil from Rivers under him? Nope.
He should decamp to APC if that's what is needed to get things done.
Desperate time require desperate measures.

This thread turned out good.

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But you want us to support your venture nah, and we said No!
Yorubas are liked all over the world, we know, that's why we want to play neutral this time around, inugo!
Fight your VAT war, we watch from sidelines![/quotewhnen we take beg you oga ade?

Igboid:


Are you sure?
I think Ugwuanyi is the chairman of PDP governors forum.

Why do you think Ayade is pulling out from SS too?
Maybe he is positioning Calabar port? Or to recover Cross River oil that Akwa ibom won some time ago?
I mean many believe that Oron should have been part of Cross River.
What do you think?

Ayade has never hidden his anger against the ceeding of Cross River oil wells to Akwa-Ibom. But he's wasting his time if he thinks the Supreme Court will retract it's judgement. Akwa-Ibom owns that oil well by virtue of Bakassi going to Cameroon. This was where Donald Duke failed the state.

The only thing that will give Cross River the edge is if she fights a battle that returns Oron to them. I don't know if they have this agenda in mind. But if they do and follow all legal processes it might be a mini referendum as Oron will find lapses in the constitution that pushes them to Cross Rivers. And that also might see Ogoja agitate for a separate state from Cross Rivers as well as, Oron joining Cross-River will push the Efik block into majority.

But that's their business as it doesn't concerns me. My interest lies in Imo boundary adjustment case with Rivers.

Eastlink:
Ayade has never hidden his anger against the ceeding of Cross River oil wells to Akwa-Ibom. But he's wasting his time if he thinks the Supreme Court will retract it's judgement. Akwa-Ibom owns that oil well by virtue of Bakassi going to Cameroon. This was where Donald Duke failed the state.

The only thing that will give Cross River the edge is if she fights a battle that returns Oron to them. I don't know if they have this agenda in mind. But if they do and follow all legal processes it might be a mini referendum as Oron will find lapses in the constitution that pushes them to Cross Rivers. And that also might see Ogoja agitate for a separate state from Cross Rivers as well as, Oron joining Cross-River will push the Efik block into majority.

But that's their business as it doesn't concerns me. My interest lies in Imo boundary adjustment case with Rivers.

Interesting scenario.
Well, if they open Calabar port, which if you remember lost out to Lagos port at the colonial days as the port of choice for dredging by the British, Cross River will also benefit.
Calabar port is also closer to the North than Lagos port.
I remember they were planning a super highway from Calabar to Maiduguri some time ago.
Maybe Ayade is after all looking out for Cross River interests by sitting on the fence too.

Igboid:


Interesting scenario.
Well, if they open Calabar port, which if you remember lost out to Lagos port at the colonial days as the port of choice for dredging by the British, Cross River will also benefit.
Calabar port is also closer to the North than Lagos port.
I remember they were planning a super highway from Calabar to Maiduguri some time ago.
Maybe Ayade is after all looking out for Cross River interests by sitting on the fence too.

Cross Rivers politics is deeper than face value. Just leave them and focus on your own battles. They’ll sort themselves out.

Eastlink:
Cross Rivers politics is deeper than face value. Just leave them and focus on your own battles. They’ll sort themselves out.

True.
I better mind my Igbo.
But you know we have Isobo in Obubra LGA of Cross River.
So for some reason, I have interest in the state.

Igboid:

True.
I better mind my Igbo.
But you know we have Isobo in Obubra LGA of Cross River.
So for some reason, I have interest in the state.

Fighting in every front will gift you enemies. There are safe there as they ain't denying their Igbo origin. They are even recognized by the Cross-Rivers state government. Just forget them for now and focus on the bigger battles at hand. The battle in Rivers State is where your concern is needed.

Igboid:


The three regions (SW,SS and North) connived and stripped us of all oil producing Igbo speaking communities after the war.
Now they are fighting over the spoils of the war.
Our card should be to play neutral. And use our neutral position to extract benefits from both parties before choosing side with the eventual winner.

This won't be necessary because your State will only get the VAT collected within it's territory if the States win in court.

Eastlink:
Fighting in every front will gift you enemies. There are safe there as they ain't denying their Igbo origin. They are even recognized by the Cross-Rivers state government. Just forget them for now and focus on the bigger battles at hand. The battle in Rivers State is where your concern is needed.

A voice of reasoning from The East.
You are appreciated, my Brother.

Igboid:


They should be diplomatic and assume an inconclusive stand tomorrow.

Reschedule meeting and strategically drag feet until we see who is winning between SS/SW and the North, then we move in and help the faction.

About time we started playing "sophisticated" and interest based politics.

Lol. You IPOBians are so slow on the uptake and always arriving the Party too late.

This is not about politics. It is about the fight for state-led restructuring since the demand for formal and legistlatively supported restructuring all Nigerians want is being arrogantly ignored by the FG.

If you have any working brain cell left in your head you would realize the position you ask Igbos to take is self-harming.

Igbos gain nothing politically sitting on the fence over VAT. You will only re-inforce the opinion you are reactionary, hateful and confused pro-Fulani fifth columnists who are never well-meaning and are only interested in doing/supporting what sabotage Nigeria and never what is progressive and desirable for her.

Read below to see if that does not describe Igbos accurately.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_column

A fifth column is any group of people who undermine a larger group from within, usually in favor of an enemy group or nation. The activities of a fifth column can be overt or clandestine.

noleflendum:
Ass licker governors from the land of killing policemen are cowards like Ojukwu

You're Obviously sending this message from your bedbugs infested mat in a Benin Republic refugee camp.

Yoruba generals that were kneeling and crying before a Fulani major, comes to mind

Blue3k:


There's nothing wicked about not jumping into the fry. If it doesn't matter to you sit back. Who called them anyway?

You should be called RED3k.

You ask for PRESIDENT in 2023 and you want to sit on the fence to finance your ambition?

We call that nonchalant wickedness, selfishness and corruption.

orisa37:



You should be called RED3k.

You ask for PRESIDENT in 2023 and you want to sit on the fence to finance your ambition?

We call that nonchalant wickedness, selfishness and corruption.

Don't mind them. They demand the Presidency aggressively yet no one ever sees IPOBian leading or championing the cause for Nigeria's socio-economic progress.

It is times like this, courtesy of how Igbos react, that shows any Igbo President would be far worse than the Northerners most Nigerians do not want to continue in power.

It appears Igbos only want the Presidency for the sake of it and not for its nationally transformational power. Igbo leaders don't believe in fighting for anything or helping to prepare the meal. They only want to show up after food is ready to demand the Lion share.

Aside blackmailing others to hand them the keys to Aso Rock, has anyone seen Igbo leaders playing a leading role recently in any progressive Nigerian policy drive?

From the South it is always SW and SS delivering and chasing progressive/developmental initiatives and policies while Igbo leaders generally behave like empty barrels and callously unprincipled opportunists.

orisa37:



You should be called RED3k.

You ask for PRESIDENT in 2023 and you want to sit on the fence to finance your ambition?

We call that nonchalant wickedness, selfishness and corruption.

Grayoso:


Don't mind them. They demand the Presidency aggressively yet no one ever sees IPOBian leading championing the cause for Nigeria's socio-economic progress.

It is times like this, courtesy of how Igbos react, that shows any Igbo President would be far worse than the Northerners most Nigerians do not want to continue in power.

It appears Igbos only want the Presidency for the sake of it and not for its nationally transformational power. Igbo leaders don't believe in fighting for anything or helping to prepare the meal. They only want to show up after food is ready to demand the Lion share.

Aside blackmailing others to hand them the keys to Aso Rock, has anyone seen Igbo leaders playing a leading role recently in any progressive Nigerian policy drive?

From the South it is always SW and SS delivery and chasing progressive and developmental initiatives and policies while Igbo leaders generally behave like empty barrels and callously unprincipled opportunists.

The Red3k joke was lame. You could do much better dude. I didn't ask for anyone to be president so that's lie. This a court case not a vote so their pressence doesn't matter dont be act foolish. The merits of the case is what going to determine who wins not the number states on each side. There's 19 northern states and 17 southern even if you want to go by that idiotic logic.

Lol you're both mentally challenged if you guys can't figure this out by yourselves. If they sit or join what difference does it make the case will be heard shortly. You guys just want allegiance just for the sake of it. Tell me what tangible benefit is there if they decide to join if you disagree.

OfoIgbo:


You're Obviously sending this message from your bedbugs infested mat in a Benin Republic refugee camp.

Yoruba generals that were kneeling and crying before a Fulani major, comes to mind

Stale

And see wants 2023 PRESIDENCY? CLEVER ALEX. YOU WANT TO USE A LONG SPOON TO DINE WITH THE DEVIL EH?

And see wants 2023 PRESIDENCY? CLEVER ALEX. YOU WANT TO USE A LONG SPOON TO DINE WITH THE DEVIL EH? GO AND TALK YOUR OWN. THE PEOPLE YOU'RE DEALING WITH KNOW YOU MORE THAN YOU KNOW YOURSELVES.

Ttalk:


Where did you get all these your congesures from? Which part or region support RUGA apart from Miyetti-Alla

Go and read the first threads on RUGA and stop deceiving yourself. You people always act before you think just like you elected buhoori despite the fact the Igbo warned about his glaring fulanii irredentistism and bigotry.

Igboid:


Good work on the part of Uzodimma finally.
Even a prodigal son is still a son and must have a value.

It's time we played the spoiler to so called Southerners and regained all they cunningly took from us when we went to fight the North.
If we get back Egbema and Ndoni to Imo . And Oyigbo back to Abia! Nnaa! Uzodimma would be forgiven of all his sins and should be immortalized in the annals of Igbo history.

Interesting times ahead.

Fingers crossed for SE governors meeting press release tomorrow.

I don't think we are getting anything of the sorts. As per Ndoni and Oyigbo. No no no. What I read was in dispute was the jurisdiction of certain oil wells in the area. Not communities.

cc Eastlink

BKayy:

Exactly.
Whoever wins benefit us.
If the Government reopens any Eastern port in a bid to reduce Lagos VAT and Influence = our gain.

Infact whatever the FG do in the course of fighting Lagos and SW is our gain. Leave Wike, he knows what he is doing.

The question now is will they cleverly remain silent and neutral? They may shock you with a nonsensical press release later today.

Igboid:


Rivers lose out, we take back Obiigbo they stole from us, and take back Egbema and they better say goodbye to all the oil wells currently up for grabs between Imo and Rivers.
I swear, our lack of cunning and slimy Politicians have seen these Southerners do us shege!

Lagos lose, the North will get angry and open up the seaports all over the country, the monopoly they cornered since 1970 and are now crying VAT will be gone.
We will see which VAT they will be crying about going forward.

Ndi ara!

You are right.
When the war ended, Igboland was stripped of anything that would help it economically and politically. All the oil producing communities in the old Imo State, particularly Egbema and Etche areas as well as Obigbo were all taken from us and handed over to Rivers State. The loss of those areas must have cost us billions of dollars in terms of revenue and economic development.

Back then, the Northern rulers thought that only Igbos posed a significant threat to them while the minorities would always be pawns. However, recent developments has shown that Rivers State that robbed us of all those assets have now grown into a behemoth largely based on those spoils. So they have no option now than to cut them to size by revisiting those crimes and handing over to Imo and Abia States what rightfully belongs to them. They can start with the oil wells that have been ceded to Imo State, extend it to Abia by ceding back Obigbo to them. Then sit back and watch Wike or any future governor cut to size.

If Hope is street wise, he would have rallied SE governors to reach agreement with the FG that would back the status quo on VAT if only our lands and oil wells are given back to us.

Igboid:


Interesting scenario.
Well, if they open Calabar port, which if you remember lost out to Lagos port at the colonial days as the port of choice for dredging by the British, Cross River will also benefit.
Calabar port is also closer to the North than Lagos port.
I remember they were planning a super highway from Calabar to Maiduguri some time ago.
Maybe Ayade is after all looking out for Cross River interests by sitting on the fence too.

I hate it whenever we tag ourselves with ports in other people's lands when we can have ours in our own territories!

Building a viable port in Calabar or any other place outside Igboland won't have any significant benefit to us except reduced haulage time! We will still pay tax and boost the economy of others and not ours! On the contrary, we should be sitting with those in control of Nigeria's affairs and negotiating with them to build a port in Imo or Abia State and have the federal government dredge it fully in partnership with investors. Edo state is building a port that is more inland than a port in Obehie, Abia State would be! They passed through Delta river channels without any issue so why can't we pass through a channel in Rivers State?

Give us all our stolen oils and a port in Igboland and we will forget about Biafra. That should be our elite stand while negotiating with those controlling Nigeria.

Let the government

Igboid:


I'm finally beginning to see through the eyes of Umahi.
Interesting!
He is the chairman of the SE governors forum, so he will certainly be present.
Ugwuanyi is more like an air head, I don't expect him to have an opinion.
Obiano is a serpent, he will agree with Umahi.
Uzodimma is a supreme Court governor in fight with Wike for oil Wells, he will be against supporting Rivers and SS. Okezie Ikpeazu is in same category as Ugwuanyi.

Every thing being equal, SE governors will maintain neutrality or support FG .
Fingers crossed.

This is what is known as pragmatic politics. Something Zik had a total lack of. SE is where it is, because our previous leaders lacked pragmatism. They were always after the good of all, and totally ignoring the good of Igbos.

It is also one of the areas Nnamdi Kanu falls short on. Always thinking about the good of the east, when eastern minorities are busy thinking about their own parochial good, to the detriment of the Igbo good.

If the federal government and the courts will adjust these artificial Rivers state boundaries in ways that will favour Imo and Abia, I believe it makes excellence sense for Igbos to pay back the federal government, by backing her stance on the VAT controversy. It is a price worth paying.

You and Eastlink have sound points