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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 4:16pm On Oct 09, 2021
Nemesis4you:

grin
Funny side aside i feel for the guys they don try oo
grin My guy

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 4:16pm On Oct 09, 2021
Double post
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Redemption1: 4:36pm On Oct 09, 2021
Abeg if una get 68rc pop pics make una drop


Modified: congrats to members of nda 68rc on your pop, many were called, few were chosen but only the fittest survived.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Blueelf: 5:25pm On Oct 09, 2021
youghs:
For Folks here who don't really know how ambushes work. This footage from ISIS in Iraq recent propaganda video might help you get the real picture.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/q3w24t/recent_footage_of_isis_operations_in_iraq_2021/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

I hate their propaganda songs with passion
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Blueelf: 5:31pm On Oct 09, 2021
RiceProducers:


Some very sensible talk. I hope the NA takes note. This is why I love the British Army.

Have you served in the British army before?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Redemption1: 6:39pm On Oct 09, 2021
5 years no be beans, if you think say e easy do am

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by youghs: 6:40pm On Oct 09, 2021
Redemption1:
Abeg if una get 68rc pop pics make una drop


Modified: congrats to members of nda 68rc on your pop, many were called, few were chosen but only the fittest survived.

..

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Redemption1: 6:59pm On Oct 09, 2021
Academy mother of Africa warriors

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Ablemax(m): 7:05pm On Oct 09, 2021
Proud member of 68rc

But never made it Sha



Congrats though....

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 7:13pm On Oct 09, 2021
Ablemax:
Proud member of 68rc

But never made it Sha



Congrats though....

Any reason why?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 7:14pm On Oct 09, 2021
Ablemax:
Proud member of 68rc

But never made it Sha



Congrats though....


Wow. Last course,over 700 cadets graduated. This course, we're seeing only 260. Were they dismissed?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 7:25pm On Oct 09, 2021
Personally, on the MRAP and IFV debate, I'd prefer the IFV. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have alot of MRAPs in large numbers too. Why? We need a troop carrier with massive firepower. Something an MRAP can't do simultaneously.

In as much as we see the IFV as a game changer, IMHO, it isn't. The problem has always been our TRADOC. Training and chain of communication/command is a big issue. IFV won't bring anything different. For Heaven sakes, we bought T-72M1s thinking it will win us this war. The T-72M1s are in fact, an overkill. I'm very familiar with tanks, i know what they can do. The T-72 tank is equal to atleast 10 IFVs. The only thing that an IFV offer differently, is troop transportation. An IFV trade, firepower and armour, for troop transportation and mobility.

My Final verdict :The Nigerian Army already have enough weaponry to win this war. We need to improve troop training and welfare. Our engineers are suffering a maintenance nightmare. Standardization of equipment is required. Investment in manpower to ensure a quality Junior officer corps and quality leadership.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by HitlerGaddafi: 7:33pm On Oct 09, 2021
Stormtrooper11:



Wow. Last course,over 700 cadets graduated. This course, we're seeing only 260. Were they dismissed?
They sent so many terma 5 kids back home some months ago. Some were even sent packing for crimes they committed in terma 1.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by RiceProducers: 7:41pm On Oct 09, 2021
Blueelf:


Have you served in the British army before?
Nope. I srudy them. They marry tech to doctrine and to tactics. They get very familiar with their weaponry very fast

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Blueelf: 7:49pm On Oct 09, 2021
HitlerGaddafi:

They sent so many terma 5 kids back home some months ago. Some were even sent packing for crimes they committed in terma 1.

Watch crime rate increase

A better approach should have been taken to pay for their crimes

Maybe demote them to terma 3 or absorb them as NCOs,,but outright dismissal of people trained for battle and leaving them to the mercy of society is the worst approach

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kabe1: 7:54pm On Oct 09, 2021
dragon2:
Some commentator's are going overboard over the IFV thing. Someone asked which do you prefer between the military acquiring an IFV or MRAP. Nobody said an IFV is a game changer. I said an IFV is more suitable because it gives us fire superiority over the enemy in a battle. Do we have to lose soldiers because we know how to use HMG's? Why don't the US GI take on the Taliban head on at all times since they, (Taliban) use ak47s. Why call in warthogs with 30mm gathling guns? It's because the lives of their troops is precious to them. I give no apologies, we don't have to engage bokoharam on equal terms. Drop the MRAPs and pile on the IFV's. We can use a few MRAPs forward of IFVs in a patrol.
Again the comparison is between MRAPs and IFVs.

Addressing this MRAP vs IFV question.

The mistake made is comparing one against the other, or asking commentators to choose 1 from the two.

It's similar to asking us to choose between the MI-17 & MI-35.

First, what is an MRAP?

An MRAP is an armoured military vehicle designed to provide protection against mines, IEDs and any road side bomb.

The MRAP was created in Southern Africa, either South-Africa or Zimbabwe. During the vehicles early days, it was simply known as an APC.

Popularity of the word MRAP, the Americans coined the word MRAP, hence the now widespread usage. The earlier American MRAPs were imported South African APCs.

The main difference between the MRAP and the regular APC is a higher ground clearance and a V-shaped hull.


An IFV or Infantry Fighting Vehicle

An IFV is any military vehicle that transports troops to the front line and supports, provides fire support for those troops.

So an IFV could be a Toyota pick-up truck with a GPMG gunner or an armoured 8x8 armed with calibers from 30mm and above ATGMs and reconnaissance equipment.

As long as that military vehicle transports troops to the frontlines, and provides fire support, it is an IFV.


However for the purpose of this discussion, we know which particular IFV our good friend is referring to.


The first thing I think military planners in Nigeria consider is cost.

So while an IFV is armed with a 30mm, including ATGMs and all the sweet stuffs, a single unit without ammo, training etc could cost up to 2 million USD.


While the MRAP or APC is essentially made in Nigeria, costing around 500k USD or lesser per vehicle.

So because of funding issues, IED problem, military planners are left with a tough decision to invest in 4 or 5 MRAPs, 1 IFV , Air Support for the air force.

This is what I believe is the situation we have seen in the past 4 years.

So from the scenario above which would you choose from?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 8:07pm On Oct 09, 2021
Stormtrooper11:



Wow. Last course,over 700 cadets graduated. This course, we're seeing only 260. Were they dismissed?

And I thought Sarham was wicked embarassed

The army could do with extra discipline though, especially with depot products.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 8:10pm On Oct 09, 2021
Whyem15:


And I thought Sarham was wicked embarassed

The army could do with extra discipline though, especially with depot products.
Exactly.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 8:12pm On Oct 09, 2021
Not too long ago, I posted a video in relation to land radars used by the army, in the video, the army showed something that looked like a prototype of a modular vehicle, thought someone else would have noticed it and brought it up for discussion, would love to know the status of the program.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 8:41pm On Oct 09, 2021
Whyem15:
Not too long ago, I posted a video in relation to land radars used by the army, in the video, the army showed something that looked like a prototype of a modular vehicle, thought someone else would have noticed it and brought it up for discussion, would love to know the status of the program.

Start from 8:39


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-D0YZ00EHE

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ugo4u: 9:03pm On Oct 09, 2021
Stormtrooper11:



Wow. Last course,over 700 cadets graduated. This course, we're seeing only 260. Were they dismissed?
It's because this year it was only RC guys that passed out their SSC counterparts are still in training unlike last year where combined pop was done for both RC & SSC...

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ugo4u: 9:08pm On Oct 09, 2021
Blueelf:


Watch crime rate increase

A better approach should have been taken to pay for their crimes

Maybe demote them to terma 3 or absorb them as NCOs,,but outright dismissal of people trained for battle and leaving them to the mercy of society is the worst approach
If you hear the crimes/atrocities some of the dismissed cadets commited you would justify their dismissal. It's better they're flushed out of the system now before they get commissioned and bring disgrace to the army, we can all testify to the uselessness of the NPF today it was acts of indiscipline that was left to fester in the system that brought them to this state.
FYI some cadets even go as far as raping their junior female cadets, some came in with forged credentials forget matter plenty, cadets no dey hear word.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 9:35pm On Oct 09, 2021
ugo4u:

It's because this year it was only RC guys that passed out their SSC counterparts are still in training unlike last year where combined pop was done for both RC & SSC...

Okay. Thanks for the info.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kikuyu1(m): 9:41pm On Oct 09, 2021
PROVERBZ:
I am sorry, I am not very religious. An my arguement is not stupid any body that thinks that the issue of Muslim boys appearing everywhere with guns and doing all sorts of wrong things which islam claims to forbid while claiming to do it for islam is not a problem Is also part of the problem why we can never see peace. In almost all countries there are militias that align with this Islamic sect or the other.

Abeg!!

There is a reason why- taqqiya!

In Islam, Taqiya or Taqiyya (Arabic: تقیة‎ taqiyyah, literally "prudence, fear"wink[1][2] is a precautionary dissimulation or denial of religious belief and practice in the face of persecution.[1][3][4][5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya

You'll NEVER get a straight answer from them. Only circular arguments, ad hominems and sideshows.
Just know it was NEVER and will never be a religion of peace. Even many non extremist Muslims secretly long for a Dar ul Islam in liberal W Europe.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 9:58pm On Oct 09, 2021
kikuyu1:


There is a reason why- taqqiya!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya

You'll NEVER get a straight answer from them. Only circular arguments, ad hominems and sideshows.
Just know it was NEVER and will never be a religion of peace. Even many non extremist Muslims secretly long for a Dar ul Islam in liberal W Europe.
You just de pick signal? We have moved on oga, don't bring this thread to the pit again

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Blueelf: 11:09pm On Oct 09, 2021
ugo4u:

If you hear the crimes/atrocities some of the dismissed cadets commited you would justify their dismissal. It's better they're flushed out of the system now before they get commissioned and bring disgrace to the army, we can all testify to the uselessness of the NPF today it was acts of indiscipline that was left to fester in the system that brought them to this state.
FYI some cadets even go as far as raping their junior female cadets, some came in with forged credentials forget matter plenty, cadets no dey hear word.

You have a good point

So sad

However, they need to be monitored, especially those dismissed in terma 5
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Tobiloba24072: 12:03am On Oct 10, 2021
youghs:


And that stability, accuracy and safety also exist in the 12.7mm RCWS fitted on ST1 light tank. I also do not see a need for an MBT when fighting BH as well and I'm not making a case for it,
What I'm saying is buying an IFV for BH is waste of resources.

Light tanks like the ST1 fitted with 105mm would be used for destroying BH sentry, smoke them out of their trenches and other defensive positions while the 12.7mm RCWS will be used to shell their guntrucks.
An IFV won't be able to destroy a well fortified sentry, so it will have to be complemented with a bigger gun like ST1

And If we need heavy guns for patrols, we can just easily buy a 40mm AGL RCWS and fit it on our Isotrex APC or legion MRAP or any APC.

Request sir: pic st1, rcws....God's speed as you perform this miracle.
The reason I like the st1, is that it has a lock on feature, so it almost impossible to escape...but another thing is, is that is the army using the best ammunition ? Are we using heat, instead he-frag?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 5:46am On Oct 10, 2021
NAF AW109 armed with JC6 pod

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 8:41am On Oct 10, 2021
Whyem15:


And I thought Sarham was wicked embarassed

The army could do with extra discipline though, especially with depot products.
Only RC graduated yesterday.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 8:41am On Oct 10, 2021
ugo4u:

If you hear the crimes/atrocities some of the dismissed cadets commited you would justify their dismissal. It's better they're flushed out of the system now before they get commissioned and bring disgrace to the army, we can all testify to the uselessness of the NPF today it was acts of indiscipline that was left to fester in the system that brought them to this state.
FYI some cadets even go as far as raping their junior female cadets, some came in with forged credentials forget matter plenty, cadets no dey hear word.
Agree without reservation.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Drefaithful(m): 8:50am On Oct 10, 2021
ugo4u:

If you hear the crimes/atrocities some of the dismissed cadets commited you would justify their dismissal. It's better they're flushed out of the system now before they get commissioned and bring disgrace to the army, we can all testify to the uselessness of the NPF today it was acts of indiscipline that was left to fester in the system that brought them to this state.
FYI some cadets even go as far as raping their junior female cadets, some came in with forged credentials forget matter plenty, cadets no dey hear word.


As much as I agree with your submission but some Cadets were withdrawn as a result of miscarriage of Justice.

Above all, if you are not meant to hang the peep forget it, you wouldn't.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kikuyu1(m): 9:59am On Oct 10, 2021
iblawi:
You guys should stop all this religious and political comments else I will call the mods in to ban you guys for a month.

Dude, this is important and RELEVANT! I read the excellent Hundeyin expose and it's OBVIOUS that political Islam birthed this F'ERY over generations. They've planned, strategised and funded for years! As a result we are now WHERE we're at. Fyi, in Kenya Somali imams openly challenge young xalimo to have at LEAST 3 kids by 21. People have told me they will soon outnumber Kikuyus!
Guys in their 40s have 4 wives and 20 kids. This ISN'T BS- I personally know 3 such Somalis. I never made much of this til a couple of yrs ago reading here and observations in Kenya and regionally.
You want us to continue posting Hiluxes, Tavors and those "CION OPS" (sic) pix? Srsly!?

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