Fynline:


Looks like a NATO patch

Rich4god:
Bandits held victims in our soil and be making noise up and down...

Yet security can't fish them out.

Come to think of it, some students of Baptist high school where just released. This is like 4 months after their kidnap.

We still have students of birnin yauri Kebbi state still in captivity for more than months. Not to mention the other individual victims. Yet our security forces can't track these massive movement of people.

But on daily basis inside villages in SE & SS, our soldiers are there forming commando.

Yes I knw that north is vast and a large area are not covered, but if the same energy used in tackling the issue on south is applied in the north, this banditry won't go this far.

All those bandits are careless and move in swarm, wch makes them an easy target and the bulk majority of them are children who can easily be broken to get information.


Tomorrow someone will open his mouth and say that govt aren't behind these bandits.

JOSCOFELIX:
oga ma your mate dey military no con dey make mouth go join

lionel4power:
My two cents on the IFV matter.

From the little I understand, acquiring any type of IFV in large or small numbers may or may not alter the direction of the conflict if this dynamics is not addressed.

It is not just about buying weapon A, Asset B, or platform C if they are not integrated with the overall stated defence architecture.

What do I mean by this? What place does an IFV have in the NA's Order of Battle? What would it's role be? How does it interact with other systems in is inventory?

This is year 2021, armies buy systems and not just weapons.

Even if the NA buys 1000 IFVs, if there's no clear mission for it, or proper support framework it will fail.

For instance, Boko Haram and ISWAP doesn't operate MBTs, yet the NA have hundreds of MBTs, what is the impact of those MBTs on the battlefield? It will be difficult to access it's impact because they may not be part of an overall defense architecture.

What I'm saying in essence is that modern armies don't view individual weapons as a standalone asset but as a system of systems. A component in the overall system of war.

For instance, the United States military views each platform as a "sensor and shooter" under it's novel distributed lethality concept.

What this means is that every single item in it's inventory can detect enemy disposition, and it or another item can project sufficient firepower to destroy the said enemy during a time of war. For example, a transport aircraft detects ISWAP movement, and relay the information to an artillery or even an MBT to expedite the terror threat.

I wrote about this comprehensively in 2019 for Divergent Options you can Google it. I even wrote how Nigeria can emulate such.

Basically, every individual platform is part of a network and information is relayed to each platform instantaneously using robust and encrypted datalinks.

In today's warfare, just buying disparate platforms may not guarantee that you'll win. The Nigerian Army has 1000x more weapons than ISWAP yet the war hasn't end.

Until the concept of modern warfare is understood, victory may be hard.

ecomog1990:


Country people I hail una. Imaginary view of war differs from combat reality view. Those who tasted Liberia and Borno conflicts tell us IFV is the magic weapon that Nigerian Army has never used to try defeat insecurity nationwide.
So, am sorry mate, your logic written up there about NA & IFV is technically very wrong.

You said NA needs systems not just one weapon like IFV, thats wrong because modern IFV is an integrated system of several components:

(1) ISR equipt tru RCWS EOS - Electro-Optical sensors with 5 to 15km range of day/night battlefield thermal TV cameras intel surveillance recce makes IFV perform Non-Kinetic tasks of UAV Drone, binoculars, aircraft FLIR, ground radars

(2) Guns & Missiles tru RCWS stabilized Autocannon with long range heavy rapid fire, GPMG, AGL, ATGM makes IFV perform Kinetic tasks strike role of AFV, UCAV Drone, light Tanks, light artillery.

(3) Cabin seats, Hull & Belly Armour - IFV performs roles of cargo and troop transport tasks of APC, ICV, LATV, MRAP

(4) Various types of weapons as system integration fires - makes IFV performs role of surface strike anti-personnel, anti-material, anti-tank, anti-aircraft, anti-munition, anti-structure all multiroles in one

(5) C3 Equipt for Command, Control, Communication - VHF/UHF radios, digital comms, data-link, SatCom, battle management console visual display, makes IFV perform long range C3 roles

All these and more, make modern IFV like Boxer, BMP-3, VN-1C, the magic platform of any effective army.
Attack, defence, mobility, surveillance, communication network, patrol, command/control, tactical deterrent, force/power projection, peace enforcement, CT-COIN, conventional conflict, are all done with IFV fleet in Army ORBAT & TOE.

Army without full IFV fleet is suffering what is called land power operational capability gap, and Nigeria is dying because of it.
No other single platform can replace IFV.

IFV is not just a single weapon unit, it is a platform of many weapons integrated, so IFV is a system.
Nigerian Army needs a system and IFV is that missing system.

IFV is best solution to kill all enemy gun trucks damaging Nigeria killing our army, police, and civilians
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IFV proven roles effect in terrorism - insurgency history:

Many times when USA-NATO soldiers are being overrun by Taliban, Al Qaeda, ISIS, and no air support available, they call in IFV - Stryker or Warrior to save those troops, and Taliban dies or runs away.
Records say once Rosomak IFV appears, Taliban fighters disappear.
Bradley IFV practically killed Iraq in ground battles of the first Gulf war.
BMP IFV and MTLB 23mm IFV did very well against ISIS in Iraq.
LAV-III IFV tormented Taliban hiding on high mountains in Afghanistan, with insurgents killed where they are safe from other NATO weapons.


You also said shebi we have 1,000s equipment in NA now and all those have not made our Army succeed. Ah mate, such ignorant statements is what is killing us today, does our 1,000 weapons include Norinco Type-08 IFV, ISR assets with FLIR & SATCOM, Command Post C4, BMP-3 IFV ? Answer is big No !

99% of those your NA 1,000 weapons are old obsolete, worn out, rusted, breaking down, night blind without night vision thermals, no stabilized guns, no guided munitions, no long range ISTAR, no rapid fire medium calibre Autocannon, and almost no IFV among them, the very right type of weapons we need for our type of war is the very one we don't have among those your 1,000 weapons in NA.

If we follow what you wrote up there Nigerian people will continue to die like chickens inside this insecurity
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Not most of our engagements are during patrols, just some. Many times BH & ISW hav overrun our based at FOBs, checkpoints, Super Camps, NAF base, Navy base Lake Chad, NN garrison on Chad Islands, NA town garrisons, etc. Our contacts with enemy happens everywhere.

To say IFV is not for patrol is wrong, tactical operational deployment & employment role of IFV especially wheeled type includes ops where one IFV leads patrol convoy as vanguard/escort to five weaker Humvees or Toyota gun trucks on patrol missions.

It's called mechanized element of motorized infantry formations.
Only IFV has all-round capabilities needed to end insecurity nationwide, we just let equipment manufacturer train our crew properly to master their IFV and the new Zaria NA Infantry training center train them on effective field use of IFV, our men will now gain overwhelming force to defeat insecurity.

FGN has tested all other asset is except IFV, lets give this magic asset a try with VN-1C variants in large numbers, let wheeled IFV answer distress call in every LGA and lets see which Boko Bandit ISIS-WA Kidnappers Robbers Herdsmen can remain alive after fighting vs modern IFV like Bumerang or cheaper VN-1C of $1.2 million price per one.

Lets stop all these novice talk of this war is not all about weapons, we already have 1000 weapons, weapons alone is nothing without training, morale is down no weapons can boost it, no new weapon can change situation, unless we address all the other non-kinetic problems affecting insecurity;

Who does not know all these? Are these new thinking? Look my people we all know all these, so lets stop stories and do the right thing by filling the dangerous capability gaps that has weakened Nigerian Army for decades!

There are global standards for structuring a modern, balanced, combat-effective, war winning Army that will overcome guerilla insurgents or state-actor conventional adversaries.

DefSec technologists and tacticians invented and created IFV for a specific reason, if its not needed, it will not remain a most vital asset in all modern armies since 1960s.

Some European, American Armies, USA Marines, are eliminating tanks, replacing MBT with multirole IFV to show us importance of IFV is today's defence security architecture.

Do all needful non-kinetic, religious, economic, orientation, social solutions to Nigeria's insecurity and also do needful tech equipt capability gap solution.

Across city street asphalt roads, Sahel semi-desert, Sahara sands, Savannah grassland, amphibious River Niger-Benue, River Yobe, Lake Chad waters, far remote borders, in all weather rain storm, sand storm, its IFV that can cover the whole of Nigeria and hold ground like garrison, defend small or big bases, secure cities, villages, etc. IFV is the magic system NA needs, with proper training & tactics we will secure the whole Nigeria with a cheap platform always available 24/7 with firepower that Boko ISW Bandit Herdsmen cannot survive.


Anyone who does not understand role and place of IFV in Nigeria's old outdated 1945 WW-II doctrine Army, he does not understand modern 2020 AD warfare in the land domain.

Lets not mislead with wrong thinking that has no technical foundations of how 21st century Armies that are balanced and effective, are structured according to universal military standards.

My few words on IFV & NA, country people I thank una for your contributions, everybody.

Sizzorkay:
Or that fight for scarce resources will spill over to the rest of the country and you have chaos on your hands and then they have the numbers.
Allowing a tumor to grow won't do anyone any good. Issues there need to be fixed or it engulfs the whole country. These aren't foreign citizens. we still occupy same country. things get too hard and they will move to other areas.

GeneralFarouq pomost=106494355:

How's is 12 million per year much of a salary.
When u consider the risk, the time spent and mental and physical stress all coupled with the deteriorating economy of Nigeria, , u will discover soldiers are being paid peanut....
Good thing that are not in the job for money...

youghs:


This is you just overhyping the worth of an IFV. IFV is not any magic weapon or a game changer, it's just an addition or rather an alternative. You can destroy a gun truck with 12.7mm RCWS(fire at the engine, take out the gunner, the driver and other occupants in the vehicle), the only difference is that the 30mm will burn them alive at the first or second burst.

In as much as I'm also a fan of an IFV and I will like the army to get some, It isn't going to change anything or win any war. We need to stop overhyping equipments just because we don't possess them.

jpphilips:


They are paid nearly double of that amount.

Tobiloba24072:


I support him, and I feel you're wrong..... the stabilised platform and accuracy and safety almost akin to that of a MBT makes ifv really needed, it offers a lot of advantage almost cheating, when used against bht, if they are used in sufficient numbers, imagine placing accurate 30mm shots, from 3km , where by bht can't even see from that distance....left to me, I would prefer more ifv, that mbt, in the present fighting we have in the country.

youghs:


This is you just overhyping the worth of an IFV. IFV is not any magic weapon or a game changer, it's just an addition or rather an alternative. You can destroy a gun truck with 12.7mm RCWS(fire at the engine, take out the gunner, the driver and other occupants in the vehicle), the only difference is that the 30mm will burn them alive at the first or second burst.

In as much as I'm also a fan of an IFV and I will like the army to get some, It isn't going to change anything or win any war. We need to stop overhyping equipments just because we don't possess them.

Tobiloba24072:


I support him, and I feel you're wrong..... the stabilised platform and accuracy and safety almost akin to that of a MBT makes ifv really needed, it offers a lot of advantage almost cheating, when used against bht, if they are used in sufficient numbers, imagine placing accurate 30mm shots, from 3km , where by bht can't even see from that distance....left to me, I would prefer more ifv, that mbt, in the present fighting we have in the country.

Odunayaw:
Whyem15: Mrap or IFV

Forumers: historically speaking, mathematically speaking, systematically speaking


My people

Odunayaw:
Whyem15: Mrap or IFV

Forumers: historically speaking, mathematically speaking, systematically speaking


My people

mekussa:
IFV...... MRAP...... MBT..... RCWS
All are good o.... But.... The MEN are most important. The training and tactics are what are really important in my book.

With the right mix of training, strategy and tactics, even the hiluxes will do wonders.

We can buy all the IFVs in the world and not make enough provision for spares or... Park them INSIDE poorly secured FOBs without fuel and enough ammo(like we do with the equipment book haram destroy or steal)...... Or hand them over to individuals who cant think straight under fire(in am ambudh or base attack).
In this scenario, who no get IFV no better pass us?

kabe1:




Let's discuss the real issue.

Odunayaw:
Whyem15: Mrap or IFV

Forumers: historically speaking, mathematically speaking, systematically speaking, really speaking


My people