budaatum:

And you then added "sheepishly"?

I bet you Jesus was not your shepherd and you aren't Thomas. If you'd actually read the book and Jesus were your shepherd, you'd love even your enemies instead of discriminating, and you definitely would understand that Jesus being your shepherd may actually make you a bold lion.

Wasnt the lesson of doubting Thomas about believing without seeing? Is that not promoting ignorance in the name of faith? Sheepishly believing what te holy man tells you without evidence.

Born2Freak:


Magic

If you have problems with evolution, I suggest you read a biology book

Sorry, lad, I'm done with such magicK.

aadoiza:

Sorry, lad, I'm done with such magicK.

Lol....you are too old to be quoting shazam

Born2Freak:



Wasnt the lesson of doubting Thomas about believing without seeing? Is that not promoting ignorance in the name of faith? Sheepishly believing what te holy man tells you without evidence.

No, the lesson of "Doubting Thomas" was not about believing without seeing. It is your own understanding that you must believe without seeing, and it seems like you transferred your believing without seeing to some "holy man" who made you eat grass and do those other things you said you did when you were a Christian.

If you think of it, Jesus would not have become flesh so that you may see what you believe in to begin with; you could have just gone on believing in the Unseen God. And Jesus would not have gone about healing the blind if he did not want them to use their eyes to see.

Below are alternative lessons learned from Doubting Thomas:

https://religionnews.com/2018/04/11/doubting-thomas-story-is-about-gratitude-not-doubt/

https://www.trusting-in-jesus.com/jesusandthomas.html

I'm beginning to think that when you were a Christian, your "holy man" was your God.

budaatum:

No, the lesson of "Doubting Thomas" was not about believing without seeing. It is your own understanding that you must believe without seeing, and it seems like you transferred your believing without seeing to some "holy man" who made you eat grass and do those other things you said you did when you were a Christian.

If you think of it, Jesus would not have become flesh so that you may see what you believe in to begin with; you could have just gone on believing in the Unseen God. And Jesus would not have gone about healing the blind if he did not want them to use their eyes to see.

Below are alternative lessons learned from Doubting Thomas:

https://religionnews.com/2018/04/11/doubting-thomas-story-is-about-gratitude-not-doubt/

https://www.trusting-in-jesus.com/jesusandthomas.html

I'm beginning to think that when you were a Christian, your "holy man" was your God.

Jesus clearly said;

Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed


This was during the doubting Thomas episode.

You sir, are a Christian that reads his bible upside down. How can you contradict what Jesus clearly said?

Shame.

Born2Freak:



Jesus clearly said;

Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed


This was during the doubting Thomas episode.

You sir, are a Christian that reads his bible upside down. How can you contradict what Jesus clearly said?

Shame.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahaha..... this got me cracking budaatum. Lolzz

Born2Freak:



Jesus clearly said;

Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed


This was during the doubting Thomas episode.

You sir, are a Christian that reads his bible upside down. How can you contradict what Jesus clearly said?

Shame.

First, I'm reading what is 'written' that Jesus said, and not "what Jesus clearly said", as you claim, since I'm certain you'd agree Jesus did not speak English and what I now read was written long after he might have said whatever he said. Second, what's wrong with using my mind to turn "bible upside down"? Is that not me using my God given senses?

Jesus never said - or shall I say, no where is it written that Jesus said you must just blindly eat grass and if you did eat grass then I suggest you turn your Bible upside down because you must have been reading it the wrong way up.

budaatum:

First, I'm reading what is 'written' that Jesus said, and not "what Jesus clearly said", as you claim, since I'm certain you'd agree Jesus did not speak English and what I now read was written long after he might have said whatever he said. Second, what's wrong with using my mind to turn "bible upside down"? Is that not me using my God given senses?

Jesus never said - or shall I say, no where is it written that Jesus said you must just blindly eat grass and if you did eat grass then I suggest you turn your Bible upside down because you must have been reading it the wrong way up.

Stop making a fool of yourself. This is not about eating grass now. First, we are addressing the issue of following the shepherd blindly.

The issue here is that Jesus supported blind faith. Believing without seeing.

Now, it is from there we get to the eating grass. Many christians then put their blind faith to pastors whom like Jesus, are messengers of God. Now, if the pastors tell them to eat grass, they will blindly follow like sheep.

And guess what? I never ate grass. Because I always questioned my faith.

Born2Freak:



Lol....you are too old to be quoting shazam

Wallahi, I have never seen that movie. But seriously, evolution is magicK, if you understand my spelling of the word 'magic' with K. I guess only the initiates would grasp it .

aadoiza:

Wallahi, I have never seen that movie. But seriously, evolution is magicK, if you understand my spelling of the word 'magic' with K. I guess only the initiates would grasp it .

Initiates? Lol....na cult?

Born2Freak:


Initiates? Lol....na cult?

Yes, something like that.

Born2Freak:



Stop making a fool of yourself. This is not about eating grass now. First, we are addressing the issue of following the shepherd blindly.

The issue here is that Jesus supported blind faith. Believing without seeing.

Now, it is from there we get to the eating grass. Many christians then put their blind faith to pastors whom like Jesus, are messengers of God. Now, if the pastors tell them to eat grass, they will blindly follow like sheep.

And guess what? I never ate grass. Because I always questioned my faith.

You said you ate grass when you were a Christian! Are you now changing your mind?

If you believe Jesus asked you to follow without seeing, then so be it. Though, from our conversation so far, it was your pastor who told you to follow him blindly like sheep and eat grass, which if you had bothered to read your Bible you'd know Jesus in fact said "woe to them", and an intelligent person would take that as definitely open your eyes and see what you follow so you don't through your blindness and ignorance be made to eat grass like sheep.

Born2Freak:
1. In this era of Buhari and suffering, you are free from any duty to tithe. You will save 10% of your salary for yourself

2. Since there is no need to go to church as an atheist, no pastor will force you to;
*remove panties
*eat grass
*inhale insecticides

3. No need to travel to Mecca for pilgrimage (or Jerusalem) since government no longer pays for it.

4. All those hours wasted praying for Nigeria to be better will now be used for something better

5. No more money spent on transport fare to church. Imagine going from lagos to otta or lagos to ibadan expressway and spending 3 hrs on the road

6. You won't miss your favourite sunday shows because of church eg premier league matches, telemundo full series etc

7. You will now be able to laugh whenever Lalasticlala pushes a thread about crazy pastors and ridiculous things in religion to the frontpage

8. You can now feel free blocking all those boring religious channels on DSTV

9. No more running on from office to mosque on Fridays for prayers

10. No more hunger games aka Fasting


I hope you guys will see the light and become atheists. Ramen!

Pls give me 10 benefits of becoming an atheist and I will become one.


What do I stand to gain from becoming an atheist?

Shepherd00:

Pls give me 10 benefits of becoming an atheist and I will become one.


What do I stand to gain from becoming an atheist?

Being an atheist is not a job or a rewarding exercise.

One chooses to be an atheist because it is the truth in their opinion. One becomes an atheist because he/she truly accepts that there is no evidence for god.

Born2Freak:


Being an atheist is not a job or a rewarding exercise.

One chooses to be an atheist because it is the truth in their opinion. One becomes an atheist because he/she truly accepts that there is no evidence for god.

shpepard000 is asking for benefits of atheism, how can he ask such ridiculous question when we have seen the havoc that religion can and has caused since it was formed. very stupid question

kkins25:
shpepard000 is asking for benefits of atheism, how can he ask such ridiculous question when we have seen the havoc that religion can and has caused since it was formed. very stupid question

You have to bear with him/her. We were all ignorant at a point in time....

Born2Freak:


Being an atheist is not a job or a rewarding exercise.

One chooses to be an atheist because it is the truth in their opinion. One becomes an atheist because he/she truly accepts that there is no evidence for god.

And how does this benefit me?

Shepherd00:

And how does this benefit me?

Atheism doesn't promise any benefit. It simply puts you in the position to take responsibility for how you live your life.

Shepherd00:

And how does this benefit me?

You think this is prosperity preaching?

aadoiza:

Another nonsense from someone who believes they magicKally evolved.

Are you serious? For someone that believes God made the universe with Hebrew words, that humans are made from clay figurines, that a snake talked eve into eating an apple, that a man lived inside a whale for 3 days, that the sun stood still to allow Joshua win a war, etc, to call evolution nonsense and magic. That's what is called cognitive dissonance.

Lol

Born2Freak:
Lol

You obviously did not know that both church goers/church obeyers and Anti-God people are still the same people, with church goers only being slightly hesitant to doing evil more than the other.

But in the end they are both happy to do it.

And none of you were ever Christians.

Born2Freak:
1. In this era of Buhari and suffering, you are free from any duty to tithe. You will save 10% of your salary for yourself

2. Since there is no need to go to church as an atheist, no pastor will force you to;
*remove panties
*eat grass
*inhale insecticides

3. No need to travel to Mecca for pilgrimage (or Jerusalem) since government no longer pays for it.

4. All those hours wasted praying for Nigeria to be better will now be used for something better

5. No more money spent on transport fare to church. Imagine going from lagos to otta or lagos to ibadan expressway and spending 3 hrs on the road

6. You won't miss your favourite sunday shows because of church eg premier league matches, telemundo full series etc

7. You will now be able to laugh whenever Lalasticlala pushes a thread about crazy pastors and ridiculous things in religion to the frontpage

8. You can now feel free blocking all those boring religious channels on DSTV

9. No more running on from office to mosque on Fridays for prayers

10. No more hunger games aka Fasting


I hope you guys will see the light and become atheists. Ramen!

Can ATHEISM make PEACE permeates the gathering of ATHEISTS?

Dtruthspeaker:


You obviously did not know that both church goers/church obeyers and Anti-God people are still the same people, with church goers only being slightly hesitant to doing evil more than the other.

But in the end they are both happy to do it.

And none of you were ever Christians.

What do you see as good things

MaxInDHouse:


Can ATHEISM make PEACE permeates the gathering of ATHEISTS?

This is like asking can non-stamp collecting ensure peace in a gathering of non-stamp collectors. One thing had nothing to do with the other. What will happen in a gathering of atheists who are looking for peace is a rational approach to why peace should reign, not the fact of lack of belief in mythological beings.

LordReed:

This is like asking can non-stamp collecting ensure peace in a gathering of non-stamp collectors. One thing had nothing to do with the other. What will happen in a gathering of atheists who are looking for peace is a rational approach to why peace should reign, not the fact of lack of belief in mythological beings.

Well the only reason why faith in God differs from atheism is PEACE amongst adherents of faith, apart from that your belief or disbelief in God is worthless!

MaxInDHouse:


Well the only reason why faith in God differs from atheism is PEACE amongst adherents of faith, apart from that your belief or disbelief in God is worthless!

Good for you, enjoy.

HellVictorinho:

What do you see as good things

Do you not know what things are good?

Don't worry you are not alone. Most people think that they knew what good things were Until They Are Asked Or Told That What They thought was a good thing is not.

Then they get angry!

LordReed:

Good for you, enjoy.

So when next you see my post know that this is coming from a well trained disciple of Jesus Christ, there's nothing in your head to disprove the teachings of the world's most wonderful counselor of all times! Isaiah 9:6 compare to Isaiah 54:17
ATHEISM only make noise based on the achievements of dead people who professed faith in God. Before the arrival of faith you and your cohorts can say something reasonable against misinformed Churchgoers but when true faith arrived there's nothing the faculty of ATHEISM can say against true faith:


" On the other hand, the fruitage of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith, mildness, self-control. Against such things there is no law" Galatians 5:22-23

Go and tell all your colleagues that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Organization is here today and there's nothing you people can say to disprove the presence of God in the midst of imperfect humans who have come from different races all across the globe to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

May you have PEACE!

MaxInDHouse:

So when next you see my post know that this is coming from a well trained disciple of Jesus Christ, there's nothing in your head to disprove the teachings of the world's most wonderful counselor of all times! Isaiah 9:6 compare to Isaiah 54:17
ATHEISM only make noise based on the achievements of dead people who professed faith in God. Before the arrival of faith you and your cohorts can say something reasonable against misinformed Churchgoers but when true faith arrived there's nothing the faculty of ATHEISM can say against true faith:


" On the other hand, the fruitage of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith, mildness, self-control. Against such things there is no law" Galatians 5:22-23

Go and tell all your colleagues that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Organization is here today and there's nothing you people can say to disprove the presence of God in the midst of imperfect humans who have come from different races all across the globe to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

May you have PEACE!

LMFAO!

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LordReed:

LMFAO!

When the atheist has been beaten intelligently hands down!

What about the social aspects?
I know how many opportunities I have missed because I do not belong to any religious orgnanisation.